从升国旗到BBC质疑叶诗文,英国你还能更SB不?

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那个别说主持人, 我现在都相信她服用兴奋剂, 太假了。


挂错旗是不可原谅的,显然组委会有韩国内奸。
质疑则是主持人的权利。如果一个16岁小姑娘跑跨栏超过刘翔,谁都会觉得难以置信,所以主持人的怀疑并非不合理。即使最后的结果证明了她没有服药,也不能追究主持人的责任。这就好比警察抓的人最后被无罪释放,不能反过来指控警察抓错人,只要警察使用的程序是合法的。
中国游泳队服用兴奋剂在90年代是颇有名气的。你进海关夹带违禁品被查出,从此就上了黑名单,以后人家次次严查你。一个道理。很遗憾这个无辜的小姑娘在为她前辈的错误付出代价。
 
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从古至今,中国人一向就认为外国人SB。挂错旗SB,问错话SB,写错字SB。外国人,船坚炮利而已,其他全SB。中国的考试,不就专考“不写错字,不说错话,不犯路线错误”吗?所以久经考验的中国人是永远不会SB的。


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冠军搓澡工邹春兰吃药内幕曝光(图)
2006年05月06日09:23 南方新闻网

http://news.sina.com.cn/c/2006-05-06/09238854274s.shtml
  邹春兰对着镜子,清理冒出来的胡茬儿。受早年训练的影响,身体出现了很多男性体征,图片来源:新京报

  体制内她是光芒四射的全国冠军,体制外她是穷困潦倒的搓澡工。她的生活不仅印证了中国运动员制度的缺陷,更体现了转型期体制内外社会资源分配的不公。这就是继续关注邹春兰这个名字的意义所在。邹春兰已经成为一个符号,提醒我们反思今天,更启发我们创造未来。

  触摸下巴,已经成为邹春兰的一个习惯,虽然那里的胡子已经被她拔得很干净,但上
嘴唇的汗毛又密又长,明显不同于其他普通的女性。这是运动员生涯留给她的阴影之一。

  2001年,是邹退役后的第8年,她到上海看病,经检查,她体内的男性激素比普通男性还高。2002年,邹结婚,虽然夫妻生活正常,但至今没有怀孕。

  “我怀疑是在当运动员期间吃药的后果。我跟所有媒体都是这么说的,我只是怀疑。”邹春兰强调说。

  但是即便能够生育,这个早到了做母亲的年龄渴望生育的36岁女人,也不敢生孩子,因为她“没有养育的能力”。她在长春没有家,夫妻俩住在浴场里;丈夫老周曾经出家10年,在老家也没有房子;在老家,邹春兰76岁的老母一人住在三四十平方米的小房子里。

  退役13年来邹春兰做过种种努力,但她的生活却越来越差。现在,夫妇俩都在长春市一家浴场打工,邹给人搓澡,老周搞卫生。曾经的全国举重冠军,沦为今天的搓澡工,使得邹春兰迫切地渴望稳定的生活。这个曾经从体制内被迫走出的人,直到今天仍然渴望回到体制内去。

  生活在浴室中

  每为一个客人搓澡,她可得1.5元的提成

  早晨6点钟,邹春兰起床,洗漱时,她要对着镜子查看下巴上是否长出了胡子。然后,她赶往浴室,等待为客人搓澡,每服务一个客人,她可得1.5元的提成。这样一直干两天两夜,只有在后半夜没客人时,睡一会儿,吃饭都在浴室里。第三天,她才能休息,躲在宿舍里睡觉。第四天,她又开始工作。她没有底薪,收入全部来自搓澡的提成,每月收入从500元到1000元不等。

  搓澡的时候,有客人主动与她聊天,问她以前是做什么的。邹说,是运动员。别人不相信。邹就说,不仅是运动员,还是全国冠军呢。有客人同情她的遭遇,建议她去找“体工队”。

  邹原是吉林省第一体工队的举重运动员,1993年退役。1997年,吉林省第一体工队解体,分为重竞技运动管理中心和田掷球管理中心。在客人的提醒下,邹春兰来到吉林省重竞技运动管理中心,她想办一个下岗证,申请最低生活保障。但是管理中心答复,她早在1994年就办理了退役手续,已与单位脱离了关系,而且吉林省重竞技运动管理中心属于事业单位,没有下岗工人的提法。

  今年3月初的一天,邹春兰就自己的事情到长春市一家律师事务所咨询,恰好遇到《新文化报》记者程泽。程听说了邹春兰的事后不敢相信,“并不是我瞧不起搓澡工,而是觉得从全国举重冠军到搓澡工的落差太大了”。之后,程泽进行了长达近20天的调查,结果发现邹所说的都是事实,于是在3月21日,发表了关于邹春兰的第一篇报道。

  此后,全国各地的记者纷纷打电话采访邹春兰,邹不得不停止了搓澡的工作。4月3日下午,在浴场为她提供的5平方米的宿舍里,记者拍完了照片,邹春兰随手关上了门,她曾经获得14枚奖牌(其中4枚金牌),很随便地挂在墙上。在她二嫂的提醒下,她才锁上门。“以前有很多(奖牌),有些漂亮的都让亲属要去了。”邹春兰说。

  曾经的辉煌

  邹母含泪回忆说,女儿每次回家时总带奖牌

  1987年,邹春兰进入吉林省第一体工队,当年9月,就在全国举重冠军赛上,取得抓举第二名、挺举第一名的成绩。在1988年的全国举重冠军赛上,她一人夺得44公斤级的抓举、挺举、总成绩3枚金牌,其中挺举、总成绩均打破了世界纪录。1990年的全国举重冠军赛上,她又打破48公斤级全国纪录。从1987年到1993年退役,邹春兰共获得9块金牌。

  吉林省重竞技运动管理中心现任的副主任韩东升对媒体说,邹春兰“曾经是一个优秀的举重运动员,为吉林省赢得过不少荣誉”。

  邹的老母亲,至今还住在吉林省梅河口市山城镇上。她犹记得,当年,小镇上的广播把邹春兰夺得金牌的消息播报出来的情景,她开心无比,并把这些消息迅速告诉她的邻居们。

  “她每次回家的时候,总是带着金牌、银牌,我们没见过金子、银子,都把它当宝贝一样藏起来。”老人含泪回忆说。那时候,每次回家,邹春兰都要看望她在中学时的体育老师于学武,正是于学武带她走上举重运动员之路。但是4月5日,邹春兰回到故乡,带着记者去寻找于学武时,却敲错了门。

  “很多年都没来过了,因为没钱买东西。”邹春兰说。母亲珍藏了很多邹春兰当运动员时的照片,照片夹在相框里,相框又藏在柜子里。

  那都是邹春兰在全国各地比赛后,旅游时拍下的照片,有在河南郑州的、安徽铜陵的等等,最多的是在北京的留影。照片里的邹春兰,一点也没有夺得冠军的霸气,而是一个恬静的大姑娘,脸上挂着浅浅的笑容。

  在小学和中学的照片里,邹春兰又是一个笑容绽放的小姑娘,穿着红白相间的运动服,剪着短发,黑亮的眼睛正视着前方,显得朝气蓬勃。

  而眼前的邹春兰,很难让人将她与照片上的邹春兰联系在一起。她一身黑色打扮,黑色的棉袄、黑色灯心绒的裤子,黑色的运动鞋已经很脏了,她每天都阴郁着脸,眼睛黯然无光,头发毫无光泽。

  变化是从退役的那一刻开始的。

  退役,浑身是伤

  不能在食堂吃饭了,年轻队友们每天偷饭给她吃

  1993年,第七届全运会,是邹春兰惟一没有取得奖牌的比赛。当年,邹春兰退役。“浑身都是伤,肌肉都没有一点弹性了,怀疑是吃药的结果。身体不允许练举重了,教练也不让练了。”邹春兰说。

  退役后,体工队并没有安排她的工作。韩东升坦承,那时,运动员退役后都分配工作。成绩好的运动员,如世界冠军,一般是留校执教;有的留在下属的体校当老师;还有的组织关系调回原籍,由当地政府,劳动、人事部门安置就业。“像邹春兰这样的情况比较少数”。

  她不愿回到原籍,无偿给她的教练王成林接送孩子。那时,邹虽然还住在体工队,但是她已经不能享受运动员待遇了,不能在食堂吃饭了,年轻队友们每天偷饭给她吃。很多退役运动员都有这样的经历。

  邹春兰的唯一收入是364元的退役津贴。1995年,她终于被安排进体工队食堂做临时工。当年的吉林省第一体工队大队长邱建生,于1996年9月24日,作了一个批示,“邹春兰七运之后转业,大队考虑到她多年业绩,表现和自身极为特殊情况,经研究决定到食堂学习、工作,等以后有条件再调入”。

  为了这个可能被调入的机会,邹春兰一直在食堂工作到1997年。在这3年里,邹拿的只是364元的退役津贴,“而别的转业队员,既在体工队领着工资(指退役津贴),又在外面挣另一份工资,而我在食堂白白地工作三年,一分钱也没有得到”。

  她甚至自己花了800元钱参加厨师培训,学习面点,获得三级面点师的证书。但是1997年,吉林省第一体工队解体,分为重竞技运动管理中心和田掷球管理中心,食堂也变为两个,但两个食堂都不再聘请邹春兰了,原因是她已经是退役运动员,关系一直没有调进体工队。

  原来的领导已经调走了,教练王成林也说,没有办法了。坚守了3年的希望,在瞬间破灭了。然而,邹春兰还保留着运动员的坚韧性格。当年,她借了7000元钱,在长春开了一家小吃铺,但经营不善,几个月后,因亏本而关门。

  一次性补偿

  邹春兰拿到8万元后便去上海看病,她想结婚生育

  1998年,吉林省重竞技运动管理中心不让她继续住在宿舍。但邹提出,“安排了工作才走”。直到2000年,吉林省重竞技运动管理中心提出一次性补偿办法,双方于2000年3月27日,签订了一份《退役运动员协议书》,给予邹春兰药费5000元、一次性伤病补偿7.5万元。“中心在承兑义务后,(运动员)即与中心脱离关系”。

  吉林省重竞技运动管理中心副主任韩东升称,也有不少运动员像邹春兰这样,退役后生活并不理想。但是,目前在政策上没有解决的办法。

  “重竞技运动管理中心属于事业单位,按照编制拨款,拨款仅仅满足现有人员的需要。”韩东升说,“运动员新老交替,是必然趋势,退役的运动员走不出去,对新来的运动员和整个体育系统都是一种负担。”

  所以,吉林省体育局向省里争取到这笔退役安置经费。韩东升透露,正常的退役安置费早在1994年就发给邹春兰了,但是标准很低,只有几千块钱,“一直以来都是这样”。直到2002年,吉林省才出台新的政策,凡2002年以后入队的运动员,退役后,可获得一笔自主择业费,根据运动员期间的成绩,自主择业费从几千元到几万元不等。

  但是,这个新政策至今还没实施,“因为受到经费的限制,这笔经费比较大。不过,近期可能会到位”。

  “8万元,不仅在当时,就算是今天,在新出台的自主择业费里也是算高的。”韩东升说。

  拿到8万元后,邹春兰立即前往上海看病,询问医生自己是否还有生育能力,因为31岁的邹春兰打算结婚了。之后,邹春兰常年吃药,调节自己的雌性激素。但所吃的药价格越来越便宜,从原来的40元/瓶到现在的2元/瓶。

  结婚后,邹春兰和丈夫老周回到丈夫的老家通化市朝阳镇,借住老周堂弟的房子。这时候,老周给人送啤酒,每月挣300元钱。

  2003年初,邹春兰开始到澡堂搓澡,一年过去,手脚都起泡。在给客人搓澡的时候,邹春兰偶尔也会想起过去做运动员时的生活,“那时候,吃的是大鱼大肉,所以,现在隔几天不吃肉,就馋得不行,但是没钱,不舍得吃”。

  之后,邹春兰又给人黏胶合板,但被刺激得流鼻血。2005年,邹春兰又说服丈夫老周,贷款2000元,又借了1000元,准备养猪。这时候,一个朋友在长春开烧烤店,叫她过去帮忙,但因不和,一个月后,邹又去浴场搓澡,直到现在。

  让女人长胡子的药

  有人提醒她,如说出吃药内幕,就表明她的金牌都是假的

  邹春兰生于1971年,1987年进入吉林省第一体工队时,刚满16岁。从她进入体工队起,就开始服用“大力补”,每天1粒,直到1993年退役,达6年之久。

  “只有到比赛前的半个月,才停止服用,并打‘掩盖剂’。”邹春兰说。“大力补”那时就已经是禁药,其对女性有男性化反应。

  教练王成林将几种药同时给她服用,有鱼肝油、多种维生素等等,其中还有“大力补”。她的队友们也服用这些药物。邹春兰回忆说,当时,教练说这都是营养药,补身体的。当年,邹春兰就开始长汗毛,嗓音变粗。队友们也都有类似的反应。后来,有人问教练,为什么会长胡子。教练才说吃的是“大力补”,属于男性激素。但是教练说,没关系。

  1993年,12岁的李琳(化名)进入吉林省第一体工队举重队,她的教练也是王成林,等她长到15岁的时候,教练也让她吃药了。

  “吃药前后,举重成绩变化非常明显。”李琳说。所以,1996年,她到外地比赛时,有人问她,是不是吃了“大力补”。后来,她从老队员那里了解到一些关于“大力补”的信息,比如吃了后,嗓子变粗,胡子很重,月经不正常等等,“像邹姐那样,没有胸部,不像女孩子”。

  “我们私下偷偷讨论过,有人说将来不能生孩子,所以心里挺恐惧的。”李琳说,“但是教练说没事,不会像邹春兰那样。而且我们都想获得好成绩,退役后,能被安排到一份好工作,况且,我们既然已经吃了,所以也就无所谓了,还是继续吃,都是这样的心理,只有少数人偷偷将药扔掉。”

  第8届全运会上,李琳及其六七个队友,均被查出服用兴奋剂,遭到终身禁赛的处罚,教练王成林也被撤除一切职务。

  在吃了大量雌性激素后,李琳终于在结婚后的第3年怀孕,她的队友也都在结婚好几年之后才生孩子。“我们吃的时间比较短,不像邹姐吃的时间那么长”。

  当邹春兰揭露当年服用“大力补”的内幕时,吉林省重竞技运动管理中心的工作人员提醒她,如果她说出了吃“大力补”的内幕,就表明她的金牌都是假的。

  “所有的金牌都是假的,我也无所谓,但我至少还有一块是‘纯金的’。”邹春兰说。早在1985年,还是中学生的邹春兰,在全国第一届“浪潮杯”女子举重锦标赛上,获得挺举第一名,这是她运动员生涯中第一块金牌,它的重量比她以后获得每一块金牌都要重。

  邹春兰说,举重运动员们都有腰伤、腿伤,但她不会为此去找“体工队”。然而,因为吃药不能生育,“体工队要负责任”。

  “她的要求不高,只要能够回到体育系统,做什么事情都行。但是在目前的政策下,没有可操作性。”吉林省重竞技运动管理中心副主任韩东升说。

  穷人家的孩子

  进省队是她的向往,这意味着将来有一份好工作

  “原来以为进入省体工队了,就有出息了。没想到会成为今天这个样子。”邹春兰的母亲说。

  小时候,邹春兰不爱学习,但体育成绩十分优秀,尤其擅长短跑。每次参加县、地区的学生运动会,都能获得第一。因此,被保送到梅河口市第七中学,参加了学校田径队,体育老师就是于学武。

  1984年,于学武在报纸上看到,中国成立了女子举重队。于学武认为,女子举重队刚刚成立,全国开展面不大,是个冷门,竞争力小,所以将学校的田径队改成举重队。于学武毕业于师范学校,学的就是体育专业,对举重尤其爱好。

  在于学武的指导下,邹春兰开始在学校进行了4个月的训练,每天下午3点到5点训练,其余时间照常上课。

  于学武还做了家访,说服邹的父母支持她。67岁的于学武至今记得,那时,邹春兰的家境很困难,父亲工资不高,但子女很多。邹春兰共有4个姐姐,2个哥哥,其中一个姐姐患有脑膜炎后遗症。

  “7个孩子,连苞米面都吃过。”邹的母亲说。但她还是买鸡蛋给邹春兰补充营养。于学武从地区体委、县体委、县教委争取一点经费,买牛奶给学生们补充营养。“分牛奶的时候,给别人一包,但多给她(指邹春兰)一包,因为她家困难,在家没什么营养。”于学武说。

  4个月后,在全国第一届“浪潮杯”女子举重锦标赛上,邹春兰获得挺举第一名。“高兴得不得了,老师问喝不喝水,都不知道了。”邹春兰说。

  1985年到1987年7月,邹春兰一直在于学武的指导下训练举重,并且坚持文化课学习。“但是文化课成绩很差,我本来就不爱学习”。

  王成林早就注意到邹春兰,1987年,邹被选拔进入吉林省第一体工队。“进省队是我们的向往,这就意味着将来有一份好工作,到老了不愁。好工作就是在体工队上班。”邹春兰说。

  整个家庭都为这个消息而兴奋。那时候,农家子弟除了读书,没有别的出路,而进入吉林省第一体工队,无疑是一条“有出息”的道路。所以,这不仅是山城镇的大事,也是梅河口市的大事。

  邹春兰至今还记得,家里借钱为她买了一床新被套。哥哥姐姐都各自成家,每人凑5元到10元不等的钱给她做路费。

  1988年,体工队给她每月发50元生活补助。“领到钱的时候,特别高兴,自己可以挣钱了,以为这就是有工作了。”根据每年的比赛成绩,补助不断上升,到退役前,每月有一两百元。回家的时候,她可以买点东西,看望父母了。

  “那时候最幸福了,什么都发,只要你会哭,什么都发。队友间也是无忧无虑的,感情很好。”邹春兰无限怀念地说。

  但即使是在最辉煌的时候,邹春兰也没有给她的家庭带来直接的好处,获得那么多金牌、银牌,但奖金最多的一次是800元。而现在,回娘家时,她的老母亲还会从她300元的退休金里,拿出一两百元塞给她。

  社会救助

  “你们放心,我以后一定会回报社会”

  4月4日早晨6点,邹春兰和她的二嫂就起床了,赶到长春火车站,迎接全国妇联的两位工作人员,之前,全国妇联半边天洗衣工程办公室打电话给她,将帮助她开一家干洗店。

  带着全国妇联的2名工作人员,查看了她的5平方米的宿舍之后,邹春兰借用浴场的一个房间,接待了他们。妇联的工作人员称,他们将无偿提供一整套干洗设备,负责技术培训,传授经营管理的理念。

  此时的邹春兰两手交叉放着,显得有点紧张,脸上露出羞涩的笑容。“很久没看见邹春兰这么笑了。”邹春兰的二嫂说。

  当天中午1点,全国妇联的2名工作人员赶到吉林省重竞技运动管理中心。妇联的人员表示,除了他们无偿提供的设备和培训之外,一家干洗店的启动资金大约十几万元,包括店铺租金、装修经费,以及药水等等。

  吉林省体育局重竞技运动管理中心韩东升表示,“启动资金不是太大问题”。他们将在吉林省体育系统内为邹春兰捐款,同时组织社会力量帮助邹春兰。邹春兰的遭遇被媒体报道之后,引起了社会的关注,有人愿意为她提供就业岗位,有的愿意出钱。

  “我们要好好利用社会力量,帮助她自立,使她能有个生活的手段。”韩东升说,“通过帮助邹春兰,也可以为以后的退役运动员的就业建立一个模式。”

  关于邹春兰的报道也引起了国家体育总局的关注,4月5日,韩东升飞赴北京,向国家体育总局汇报情况,包括吉林省退役运动员总体情况和政策的限制。“如果邹春兰事件引发退役运动员安置体制的改变,那将是一件大好事”。

  韩东升说,运动员的伤痛特别多,拿到成绩的,还有奖金、补偿,但是拿不到成绩的,都只能默默承受生活的压力和训练带来的伤痛,而这样的运动员占大多数。

  “退役运动由过去的组织分配,专业安置,转为现在的面向市场,面向社会,但是运动员在训练期间,接触社会少,文化水平偏低,直接参与社会竞争比较困难,需要付出很大的努力。”韩东升说。

  在简短接触之后,全国妇联的工作人员对干洗店将来的经营管理表示一定的担忧。“邹春兰没有经商的经历,而且作为运动员,社会接触面比较窄,所以她在经营方面可能会弱一些。”妇联的一位工作人员说。

  邹春兰也自认自己的文化水平不够。4月5日,在前往梅河口市的车上,邹春兰在听说外甥女的儿子在学跆拳道的时候,情绪激动地说,“要好好学习文化课,要不然,将来像我一样,找工作都困难”。

  1987年,初中尚未毕业的邹春兰,进入吉林省第一体工队,从此脱离了文化课学习。星期一、星期三和星期五,上午、下午都要训练,上午从9点到10点半,下午从3到5点半。而星期二、星期四和星期六,早晨出操,只有下午训练。星期天休息。尽管有不少自由支配的时间,但由于训练太累,除了吃饭,就是睡觉,偶尔和队友上街买点生活用品。

  “没有人学习,感觉学习很枯燥,队友们也都是这样。”邹春兰说。直到1995年,也就是邹春兰退役后的第二年,吉林省才开始试行运动员学籍化管理制度,1997年开始全面实施。

  按照规定,专业队的运动员,都从中专体校选材,并且考入吉林省体育学院后,才可以进入专业队。专业队运动员一面接受训练,一面参加文化课的学习。吉林省体育学院已经申硕成功,运动员退役后,还可以继续深造。

  “(运动员)只要不参加比赛,或者在调整阶段,都要集中学习,上半年和下半年,各一个月的时间。”吉林省重竞技运动管理中心工作人员张晶说,“而且运动员还可以根据自己的意愿,或者是将来的发展方向,选修一些特殊的科目,如保镖等等。”

  19岁的金美花,是吉林省重竞技运动管理中心女子柔道专业运动员,2004年,从延吉的一所业余体校毕业后,考入吉林省体育学院。

  “现在能够想到的,就是好好练,争取出成绩,然后利用业余时间学习文化课,要不然以后没法竞争。”金美花说。

  自从4月4日,全国妇联的工作人员到达长春之后,邹春兰发生了明显的变化。当晚,一宿未睡,第二天仍然精神抖擞地带着记者回她的故乡采访,在车上,邹春兰说,“你们放心,我以后一定会回报社会”。

  为了迎接女儿的归来,邹春兰的老母亲将小房子收拾得干干净净,炕头的窗台上摆放着几盆花,一盆杜鹃正长出一朵鲜红的花蕾。窗外阳光灿烂,一条冰封的小路,正在悄然融化。

  采写:本报记者鲍小东(

南方都市报)
中国运动员确实是吃兴奋剂出名的
 
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从根上说争名夺利总是双刃剑,一方面促进竞争,一方面也促进歪门邪道。所以老子说:绝圣弃智,民利百倍; 绝仁弃义,民复孝慈;绝巧弃利,盗贼无有。老百姓不把奥运金牌当回事了,沟通,和平,友谊,公平竞争的奥运精神才能真正回归。

中国人,或者说有自信的中国人,历来不会在意别人的质疑。君子坦荡荡,小人常戚戚。而中国自古也有古训:不敬他人,是自不敬也。只可惜汉唐古风俱丧,如今尽皆“SB”,脑残不绝于耳,此中国已非华夏。
 
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引用了一个英文帖子,原文是针对一篇文章的评论,有兴趣的人可以自己去看,因为太长,我就不翻译了,特别奉献给“加拿大爱国者”,希望你有能力读得懂这么长篇的英语文章,也说明加拿大人民不都那么arrogant。

http://sports.nationalpost.com/2012/07/30/chinas-ye-shiwen-pushing-realm-of-possibility-at-olympics/


Buckus Toothnail </SPAN> 11 hours ago

Wow, this is the dumbest, most ignorant article I've read in a long time. All Olympic medalists get tested immediately after the competition so if Ye's doping, then she'll be found out. But until that happens, and so far the IOC has gone on record as to saying they have zero suspicions of her, then all this chatter is just character assassination and defamation. These accusations simply have no grounding but rather is based on pure conjecture.
But one of the more laughable things about this "article" is how it is so blatantly biased against Ye and the Chinese (and quite transparently racist overall).

While Ye's amazing accomplishments are termed "unbelievable" in the literal sense and "suspicious", Ruta Meilutyte is given a completely free pass despite being only 15 years old, swimming over 2 seconds faster in the Final than she ever has before the Olympics, and only being ranked 14th in the world in this event. Not only that, but this is her first major international competition.

Ye, on the otherhand, is the world champion of the 200m individual medley having won the event at the 2011 World Aquatics Championships, and placed 2nd in the 400m individual medley TWO YEARS AGO at the 2010 World Championships (25 m). She is definitely not an "unknown" from out of "nowhere". What's more, she improved her personal best by only 2 seconds in the heats of these Olympics from her 2010 time, and then improved it again by 3 seconds in the finals of the event. So in two years, from when she was 14 to now when she is 16, she improved her time by 5 seconds. Stephanie Rice, on the other hand, swimming in the same event, improved her time by SIX seconds RIGHT BEFORE the Beijing Olympics. Of course no one has accused Rice of doping despite this.

And now Missy Franklin, who was able to WIN a finals events only 13 minutes after swimming an exhausting 200 meter freestyle semi-final, when the shortest rest period Michael Phelps got in Beijing was THIRTY minutes, is celebrated rather than have suspicions aroused, even though this feat is way more unusual and unheard of then Ye simply winning a race and breaking a world record.

Now do I really think we ought to be suspicious of Meilutyte and Franklin? Of course not!
Unless they have their tests come back as positive, there is absolutely NO reason why anyone should suspect their great accomplishments instead of hailing them. And that goes for Ye as well.

It's utterly ridiculous to celebrate the former two while defaming the latter simply because Franklin is from the US and Meilutyte is from Lithuania.

This is another ridiculous hypocrisy of this "writer" as Lithuania has hardly been known as a swimming powerhouse and yet also has a reputation for doping, the most recent case being that of Aurimas Didzbalis who failed a doping test just two weeks ago and stripped of his European silver medal and suspended for these Olympics.

The US team, let's not forget, has had it's share of doping cases as well like that of Jessica Hardy. She is part of the bronze winning USA women's 4x100m freestyle team in these London Olympics, but was kicked off the US team for the Beijing Olympics for testing positive for a banned performance enhancer during the US Olympic trails and subsequently was banned from competition for a year.

But of course, this "journalist" would like to ignore all that when stating "Now, if Ye was Canadian, or American, or British, or German, we might be a little less suspicious."
Why would that be? Canadians don't dope? Right, of course, the BIGGEST Olympic doping scandal EVER concerned a Canadian by the name of Ben Johnson. But let's just brush that under the rug because it doesn't fit our narrative of "if Ye was Canadian, or American, or British, or German, we might be a little less suspicious."

The irony of Johnson's gold medal for the 100 meter dash in 1988 Olympics being awarded to second place finisher Carl Lewis is that it was reveal years later that Lewis had failed THREE doping tests during the US Olympic trials of that year, which should have gotten him kicked off the US team. And yet the United States Olympic Committee covered us these failed drug tests so that Lewis could compete. It was also revealed that the USOC covered up 114 positive tests between 1988 and 2000. All this has comes out and Lewis now even openly admits he used PEDs during his career.

And let's not forget Marion Jones, who because of biased attitudes like of this "writer", escaped unnoticed for years despite her husband, a shot putter also on the US team, being banned for doping during the 2000 Olympics for testing positive FOUR times for steroids, and the fact that she actually tested positive during a random drug test in high school and was banned for 4 years until OJ Simpson's attorney, Johnnie Cochran, got the ban revoked.
And of course, aside from the Olympics, American sports are NOTORIOUS for doping. Take the case of American baseball. From Mark McGwire, Jose Canseco, Alex Rodriguez and dozens more players that have admitted to doping to Barry Bonds, Sammy Sosa and Roger Clemens, who are largely suspected and some being charged by the government of doping, these are the greatest players in the past two decades and they have ALL doped.

The British don't dope??? Just on THIS Olympics' Great Britain team are THREE dopers who were previously given bans, namely David Millar the cyclist who tested positive for EPO and missed out the 2004 and 2008 Olympics, sprinter Dwain Chambers, and shot putter Carl Myerscough.

And let's not forget British wrestler and Commonwealth Games champion Myroslav Dykun just being banned for doping earlier this year.

The Germans don't dope? Are you serious? The East Germans for decades ran one of the most wide-spread and sophisticated state-sponsored doping programs EVER, far exceeding China in the 90s and rivaling the USSR's program if not surpassing it.

If we are taking about recent times, Germany's own anti-doping agency and the World Anti-Doping Agency are currently investigating the German doctor "Dr. Andreas Franke, who extracted blood from athletes, treated it with ultraviolet light and injected it back into the same athlete."

28 athletes are named in the case including "Olympic speedskating champion Claudia Pechstein, former 800-meter Olympic champion Nils Schumann, [and] rising German cycling star Marcel Kittel".

So tell me again, why is it that "if Ye was Canadian, or American, or British, or German, we might be a little less suspicious"? Is this based on factual reality or rather, just another obvious example of your transparent and blatant bias, discrimination and racism?

Not only are the arguments presented in this "article" full of holes and mostly laughable, the "journalism" is also extremely suspect and blatanly dishonest.

For example, he mentions, "China won a record 51 golds in their home Games, and continue to win medals here, in all sorts of disciplines. The last similar factory was East Germany, and their hulking man-women".

East Germany, of course, was famous for state-sponsored doping and thus this "journalist" is basically insinuating through his weasel phrases that China was doing the same during 2008 and as a result, won their "record 51 golds". There accusations, of course, come without any examples, proof or references.

The reality is that of all the athletes that tested positive during the 2008 Beijing Olympics games (not including the previously mentioned athletes that tested positive BEFORE the Olympics and therefore didn't attend), NONE of them were from China.

There were, however, athletes from the US and Germany, two of the countries this "writer" claims we shouldn't be suspicious of, as well as athletes from Ireland, Norway, Spain, Greece, Italy, North Korea, Vietnam, Croatia, Ukraine, Poland, Bahrain and Brazil.

Another dishonest tactic of this "writer" is that he bases much of the "impossibility" of Ye's achievement in that her "final 50-metre freestyle split that was faster than the gold medal-winning equivalent by Ryan Lochte in the men’s race". Naturally, many readers, as demonstrated in the comments below, have interpreted that to mean the Ye actually BEAT Lochte's time, which is hilariously off-base and untrue.

The fact is and what this "journalist" fails to mention is that Lochte swam the 400m individual medley over TWENTY seconds faster than Ye in their respective finals, and that he also BEAT her in the 100m freestyle split when considering BOTH laps.

It is well-known that Lochte often goes all out in the beginning of races, and fades near the end. That was well demonstrated in the 4x100 relay finals in which Lochte himself said he was "too excited" and over-swam the first 50m and therefore not leaving enough gas for the final lap, and as we all know, ended up losing the race to Yannick Agnel and the French team.
It is also well-known the Ye employs almost the opposite strategy. Like many other swimmers, she conserves her energy for much of the race and then explodes at the end. Like even John Leonard admitted, her splits from the other 300 meters were "quite ordinary". She did not expend all her energy at the beginning and was letting her competitors beat her until the final 100 meters which is when she made her move.

Given the different strategies employed by Lochte and Ye, it's much less surprising that Ye was able to swim tenths of a second faster on the final 50 meters, while keeping in mind Lochte still had a faster 100 meter split on the freestyle and was over 20 seconds faster overall in the entire 400 meters.

The real sad thing about this "article" is that this "journalist" basically praises Franklin for employing the same strategy when she had to swim her 200m freestyle semi-final right before her 100m backstroke final, saying "she swam her freestyle with as much arm work as possible, to save herself for the leg-deadening backstroke. It was quite a feat."

Rather than praising Ye for "quite a feat", instead he accuses Ye of being like a superhero character from "The Incredibles", of having "superhuman speed" and "told by his parents to ease up at the track meet, and go just slow enough to finish a close second", "holding back to whatever part of the race that suits her, and then casually making every other world-class swimmer in the field look like she’s drowning".

So rather than praise Ye's successful strategy of conserving her energy initially so she could have more in the tank at the end, similar to the strategy employed by Franklin, this "writer" is insinuating that Ye could go full blast like she did on the final 100m freestyle during the ENTIRE race, and is only "holding back" to not make her "superhuman speed" (i.e. her "doping") appear so obvious.

Not only is this assumption completely ludicrous and mind-blowingly insipid, it's also astonishing that this type of tripe could be published in so-called "respectable" publication.
If the Olympics had an event for "Worst Olympics Coverage and Analysis", this "writer" would win by such a margin that he would not be able to escape accusations of doping with some sort of newly invented super "stupid pill". And like Ye, he would be falsely accused.
He really is this stupid.
 
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【奥委会:按选手姓氏首字母决定】国际奥委会称,如遇并列情况,国旗本应并列悬挂;但若空间不够,可上下悬挂,排列顺序依照运动员姓氏的首字母来决定。孙杨拼音首字母为“S”,朴泰桓拼音首字母为“P”。据新华网
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地沟油特有的神秘功效:wdb6:


BBC主持质疑叶诗文服药
回应:“中国人是清白的”
28日,当BBC主持人克莱尔在现场目睹叶诗文以4分28秒43的新世界纪录加冕奥运冠军后,她先是稍稍一愣,随后立即转向BBC评论嘉宾、前英国游泳名将马克-福斯特发问:“马克,一名游泳选手的速度突然比往常快出许多,这得涌现出多少疑问啊?”马克显然听出了克莱尔的弦外之音,但他坚定地维护了叶诗文的声誉:“要知道她现在才16岁,当你年轻气盛的时候,这一切都是有可能发生的。”
克莱尔的此次发问随后在Twitter上引发讨论狂潮,由于网上的不满愈演愈烈,BBC在重压之下不得不作出官方声明,称:“克莱尔作为主持人,向嘉宾发问选手是如何做到的,是她的职责。这里面毫无服药的暗示。”
由于质疑声此起彼伏,美国《游泳杂志》网站发表了一篇言辞激烈的评论员文章,对西方国家的偏见进行猛烈抨击:“就知道这一切质疑会发生,这真是耻辱至极!”
对此,叶诗文30日表示“我的成绩源于勤奋,我不会使用任何禁药,中国人是清白的。”
 
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一个十六岁的女孩,居然游得超过男选手,只要脑子正常的都不会相信这。这能扬国威吗?这只能给国家声誉带来负面影响。

你能看懂以下这段英文吗?

It is well-known that Lochte often goes all out in the beginning of races, and fades near the end. That was well demonstrated in the 4x100 relay finals in which Lochte himself said he was "too excited" and over-swam the first 50m and therefore not leaving enough gas for the final lap, and as we all know, ended up losing the race to Yannick Agnel and the French team.

It is also well-known the Ye employs almost the opposite strategy. Like many other swimmers, she conserves her energy for much of the race and then explodes at the end. Like even John Leonard admitted, her splits from the other 300 meters were "quite ordinary". She did not expend all her energy at the beginning and was letting her competitors beat her until the final 100 meters which is when she made her move.

Given the different strategies employed by Lochte and Ye, it's much less surprising that Ye was able to swim tenths of a second faster on the final 50 meters, while keeping in mind Lochte still had a faster 100 meter split on the freestyle and was over 20 seconds faster overall in the entire 400 meters.
 
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I still don't believe she could be faster than previous record 5 second.
I doubt she used drug that we couldn't detect so far


你能看懂以下这段英文吗?

It is well-known that Lochte often goes all out in the beginning of races, and fades near the end. That was well demonstrated in the 4x100 relay finals in which Lochte himself said he was "too excited" and over-swam the first 50m and therefore not leaving enough gas for the final lap, and as we all know, ended up losing the race to Yannick Agnel and the French team.

It is also well-known the Ye employs almost the opposite strategy. Like many other swimmers, she conserves her energy for much of the race and then explodes at the end. Like even John Leonard admitted, her splits from the other 300 meters were "quite ordinary". She did not expend all her energy at the beginning and was letting her competitors beat her until the final 100 meters which is when she made her move.

Given the different strategies employed by Lochte and Ye, it's much less surprising that Ye was able to swim tenths of a second faster on the final 50 meters, while keeping in mind Lochte still had a faster 100 meter split on the freestyle and was over 20 seconds faster overall in the entire 400 meters.
 
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I still don't believe she could be faster than previous record 5 second.
I doubt she used drug that we couldn't detect so far

当然,我也不相信菲尔普斯在那么多项目上都能游那么快,他一定是吃了什么药你们现在还检测不出来。

Who care:wdb1:
 
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楼主不用气愤,德国媒体还有说叶诗文的手特别大,是生化产物呢。德国英国,这回根本就是秀NC来的。

这个有点意思啊,还记得澳洲的大脚索普吗?中国运动员也有去澳洲训练的,可能澳洲的生化科技特别强,能催生出来大脚,也一定能生产大手。 不服不行。
 
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agree, so let's wait and see .

Ye's speed has to be close to her record next time,


当然,我也不相信菲尔普斯在那么多项目上都能游那么快,他一定是吃了什么药你们现在还检测不出来。

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受到"排挤"是正常的, 按人类心理而言, 强者往往不受欢迎甚至受到仇视, 现在中国正在体验崛起过程中那些老牌世界强国的自然排斥心理, 等强国地位真正确立, 这些没落帝国也无可奈何, 只得认可国际新秩序.
 

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