安省真是加拿大的天堂。

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没有来加拿大前,听说这里什么都有保障。老有所依这个是肯定的。

来了温哥华后发现啥都没有,除非是流浪汉,他们有免费的住宿,打针啥的,都是听说的,因为自己没有到那地步,都不知道他们说的是真是假,没有办法确认真假。

后来听说安省的那个最低收入计划,我以为真有了,不过好长时间没有听说有人提起,这么好的计划,应该有很多人津津乐道才对了。最近又听说有好消息,年收入低于4万的可以免税。好消息一个一个地出来。如果真这样,安省将是真正的共产主义了。要知道我们从小受到的教育就是共产主义是社会发展的最高境界。

不过用我自己一直以来的经验,天上从来没有掉馅饼的事情。


果然,我自己搜了一下第一个关于基本收入保障的事件。被扼杀了。

第二个馅饼,收入低于4万的免于交个人税收,看看是不是可以实现。
 
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http://fortune.com/2018/08/03/universal-basic-income-ontario-canada/

Backlash Erupts in Canadian Province After Government Kills Basic Income Test


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By RENAE REINTS
August 3, 2018
Ontario, Canada has scrapped its experiment with basic income—a hot but largely untested idea for reducing poverty—before any results could be gleaned, sparking criticism from researchers and outrage from program recipients.
The project, introduced in 2017 and expected to last for three years, provided a basic income to 4,000 low-income people. But with the election of conservative Doug Ford[ as Ontario’s premier in June, the program was cancelled earlier this week.
“I feel I have been stabbed in the back by my own government,” one income recipient told Business Insider. “I honestly have no idea what’s happening next because there has been no communication whatsoever.
Program participants who earned less than $34,000 Canadian annually ($26,000 in U.S. currency) received up to $17,000 Canadian annually. Couples making under $48,000 Canadian received up to $24,000 Canadian, minus 50% of earned income.

The program was ended because ministry officials felt it didn’t help residents become “independent contributors to the economy,” according to the Canadian Broadcasting Corporation. One researcher involved with the program, however, said there wasn’t enough data to make this statement.
“There’s no conceivable way that they were told the project wasn’t working,” the researcher told CBC, asking to remain anonymous. “We just don’t have any data to know whether it was working or not.”
The program’s cancellation also breaks Ford’s campaign promise to keep it going. Social Services Minister Lisa MacLeod told reporters on Wednesday that the administration hopes to create “a better plan” within 100 days.
“[There’s] the decision in the campaign and then you find the realities of when you’re in government,” said MacLeod, according to the CBC. “My commitment to the people of Ontario, particularly the people who are most vulnerable, is that we will get it right.”

However, program participants are mostly angry and disheartened. One program recipient, who has lived in poverty for 15 years, told Business Insiderthat the basic income pilot was “a huge ray of hope,” and that the future is now uncertain.
An advocate for basic income, Scott Santens, shared his anger on Twitter after the announcement about the program’s cancellation. “I am so angry right now, I am shaking,” he wrote. “Can you imagine a politician pulling the plug on a vaccine that was dramatically reducing cancer so much that it’s already arguably unethical to not immediately expand it to everyone? This is wrong.”
Universal basic income is an idea that has been floated for decades. It’s been tested in countries like Finland and Kenya, and may reach U.S. urban centers like Chicago and Silicon Valley.
 
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保守党上台已经决定只能领到明年2月了吧。拿纳税人的钱给一部分人,赔给恐怖分子,这只有土豆可以做出来。土豆最大的政绩是道歉,道歉,道歉。道歉不是错的事情,为过去的事情道歉之余,是不是该为人民和国家的未来多想想,做点好事。
 
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刚看起新闻说安省将对4万一下的收入免征税。那是4万对于个人还是家庭的收入啊?

好久以前听说安省给每个人发最低保障,不管有没有工作,好像有1500。真的还是假的?
要全是真的,安省在我眼里就是共产主义社会了。



你从哪里看到的 4万?

明明是说 14刀/时或以下的低收入个人的省税会免掉, 14刀/小时 X 2080小时/年=29120刀 /年 , 简单说 3万以下。

联邦税仍旧要交。

安省根本没有每人白拿1500刀/月, 那是在 几个小镇试行的约有几千人, 2019年开始就要被取消了。
 
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你从哪里看到的 4万?

明明是说 14刀/时或以下的低收入个人的省税会免掉, 14刀/小时 X 2080小时/年=29120刀 /年 , 简单说 3万以下。

联邦税仍旧要交。

安省根本没有每人白拿1500刀/月, 那是在 几个小镇试行的约有几千人, 2019年开始就要被取消了。

我真看到的,我也看到过14刀的新闻。

反正消息差距很大的。

确实地说我看到的是4万2。等一下我找找看,找到后把新闻复制到这里来
 
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多伦多某医院s了几个孕妇产妇,蒙城,渥城,倒没有听说过这种惨案。

曾去过很多小镇,看到过多起交通事故,等候救护车的时间之长令人难以置信,人没到医院就死了,所以那里的人不会死在医院,孕妇估计也是死在家里。

允许你有不同意见,我觉得安省多伦多是天堂,就不遗余力地想挤进来。你觉得小城市是天堂,可以去小镇住一阵子,就知道是不是天堂了。
 
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我真看到的,我也看到过14刀的新闻。

反正消息差距很大的。

确实地说我看到的是4万2。等一下我找找看,找到后把新闻复制到这里来


https://torontosun.com/news/provincial/tax-credit-coming-for-minimum-wage-workers-ford


Ontario Premier Doug Ford speaks at Algoma in Sault Ste. Marie, Ont., on Tuesday, Oct. 24, 2018 in Sault Ste. Marie, Ont. (BRIAN KELLY/POSTMEDIA NETWORK)

The deficit-plagued Ontario government still plans to go ahead with a tax credit for minimum wage workers, Premier Doug Ford says.

“So anyone earning minimum wages will be paying zero tax,” Ford said Monday.

The Premier confirmed the plan had been to make it effective January 1, but then said he would need to confirm the details with his Finance Minister Vic Fedeli.

The PC government promised during its spring election campaign that it would introduce a minimum-wage tax credit so that no one earning that amount would pay any provincial tax.

According to information released by the PCs at the time, the tax credit would save low income earners up to $800 a year at a cost to the Ontario government of $558 million a year.

Almost one million Ontario residents earn minimum wage.

The PC promise was an alternative to the Liberal government’s plan of increasing the minimum wage to $15 an hour as of January 1 2019 from the current $14 an hour.

The PCs also promised to cut income taxes by 20% for the second income tax bracket which they said would save people up to $786 annually — a $2.26 billion-a-year tax cut starting in year three of the government mandate.

At the same media availability, Ford defended his government’s decision to cut three university campus expansions planned by the previous Liberal government.

“They didn’t have the money. It was reckless government from the Liberals,” Ford said.

“We want to make sure we pay down the $15 billion deficit. The pressure is staggering.”
 
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据Postmedia Network报道,福特本周一在见记者时证实,从明年1月1日起,任何赚最低时薪的工人,将免缴安省收入税(provincial income tax)。
不过福特也表示,有关细节还要与他的财长费德利(Vic Fedeli)确认。
安省保守党政府早在今年4月省选竞选时,就提出如果保守党获胜,福特当上省长,从2019年1月开始,承诺为拿最低时薪的员工免除安省收入税,也就是说,如果你的年收入低于3万加币,你就不用纳这笔税。

根据保守党当时发布的消息,这项政策下,平均每位低收入者每年可节省$859元,安省政府相应的财政支出约为一年$5.58亿元。
目前安省收入税的计算公式是:年收入$42,960以下,税率是5.05%,前$10,354免税。
据悉,安省有近100万名最低时薪工人。保守党的这项政策取代了前自由党政府于2019年1月1日起将最低时薪提高至$15元的计划。即明年1月1日起,安省最低时薪仍维持在$14元。
不过反对党批评指出,如果提高最低时薪至$15元,可以为低收入的工人节省更多钱。
另外,保守党政府也承诺将第二税阶的收入税率削减20%,使得这部分人每年节省$786元,政府一年支出约$22.6亿元。这项政策将于保守党执政的第三年起实行。
在周一的记者会上,福特也为他的政府取消资助扩建三间大学的决定作辩护。他说,前自由党政府根本没有钱还肆意妄为,150亿元的赤字压力很大。

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