[评论]信口开河：杜鲁多政府因难民问题再受狂轰

[DKnight]

读一下这篇分析文章吧，“How Ottawa is reading New Brunswick's wild election result”，感觉你的帖子充满谎言。
https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/new-brunswick-election-ottawa-1.4838504

I had a quick read and didn't see how the link you posted could prove his post was "full of lies". Can you point it out??

 

[qxxq]

刚看了下历届政府，好像是自由和保守平分秋色，两党最近二十年都轮流坐庄。历史上保守获胜被选也不差自由几次。所以说什么非常左不正确。
两党的21和22票，都不够决定政府，所以谁联合其它政党，才可能组阁。
民调离实际总得选票偏差不大，自由党占优多近6%的总选票，看来吃了选区的亏。
不过联合绿党的话，自由党可能性更大，而且两党总得选票差不多占一半，政策容易被支持。这点和BC类似。

它永远是你心中的总理，永远活在你的心中，爽吧

 

[未尝不可]

没有时间写东西。
川普赢了威斯康星和密西根，破了民主党的"Blue Wall"；海洋三省是自由党的“Red Wall"，如今也给破了，应该是意义非凡啊。

安省保守党大胜
BC省自由党就是偏右的保守党
曼省是保守党阵营
萨省一直是保守党的阵营
阿省保守党和野玫瑰重新组合，准备明年赶下NDP重新执政
魁省偏右的CAQ支持率现在第一
海洋3省的NB省保守党胜利，就剩两个小省

 

[shi-ma-he]

各省执政党情况。全国13个省级政府，保守算上安省目前就占两个，NB还不见得会拿下。
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Current_provincial_governments_in_Canada

 

[澳门首家线上赌场开业啦]

各省执政党情况。全国13个省级政府，保守算上安省目前就占两个，NB还不见得会拿下。
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Current_provincial_governments_in_Canada

傻逼撒谎眼睛都不眨。萨省的执政党党名没有保守二字，就不是保守党派?

撒谎如此顺溜，不去当政客真是浪费

 

[未尝不可]

各省执政党情况。全国13个省级政府，保守算上安省目前就占两个，NB还不见得会拿下。
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Current_provincial_governments_in_Canada

除了安省，曼省是保守党的天下
萨省自2007年以来一直由保守党阵营的萨斯喀彻温党执政
BC省自由党就是偏右的保守党，和NDP支持率一样
NB省现在反转，保守党领先
自由党也就靠魁省（不过CAQ 势头很猛），和剩下两个小的海洋省了

 

[xueshan]

各省执政党情况。全国13个省级政府，保守算上安省目前就占两个，NB还不见得会拿下。https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Current_provincial_governments_in_Canada

非常敬佩与欣赏你有理有据的参与讨论！ 请忽视掉 那几个只要见到不同意见的 就飙脏耍泼的ID，shame on those ID.

 

[澳门首家线上赌场开业啦]

非常敬佩与欣赏你有理有据的参与讨论！ 请忽视掉 那几个只要见到不同意见的 就飙脏耍泼的ID，shame on those ID.

傻逼天天造谣，人设却是理中客，想骂又怕人设崩塌

 

[一公一母]

颜值不能拉选票了.

 

[处处闻啼鸟]

萨省是最忠实的保守党大本营

 

[密林深处]

I had a quick read and didn't see how the link you posted could prove his post was "full of lies". Can you point it out??

刚看了下历届政府，好像是自由和保守平分秋色，两党最近二十年都轮流坐庄。历史上保守获胜被选也不差自由几次。所以说什么非常左不正确。
两党的21和22票，都不够决定政府，所以谁联合其它政党，才可能组阁。
民调离实际总得选票偏差不大，自由党占优多近6%的总选票，看来吃了选区的亏。
不过联合绿党的话，自由党可能性更大，而且两党总得选票差不多占一半，政策容易被支持。这点和BC类似。

谎言1：英文文章中称NB省是"Red Wall"，是自由党最后的堡垒，说NB以前非常左是正确的，当然现在向右了；
谎言2：保守党22席领先，优先联合他党组成政府；自由党只能在保守组阁失败时组阁；
谎言3：民调是遵循一种科学模型的，这个模型已经考虑了选区的分布及人口结构和政治倾向，理论上民调说赢就是赢，但3%的误差是允许的，6%民调领先还没有赢，这民调就成了笑话了；
四行字，三行不实，最后一行只是一个假设，说他充满谎言不过分吧？

 

[ccyyyycc]

非常敬佩与欣赏你有理有据的参与讨论！ 请忽视掉 那几个只要见到不同意见的 就飙脏耍泼的ID，shame on those ID.

十分欣赏你没脸没皮硬赞的魄力。不过正常人都会忽略给谎话精拉大旗捧臭脚的id。Shame on you.

 

[DKnight]

谎言1：英文文章中称NB省是"Red Wall"，是自由党最后的堡垒，说NB以前非常左是正确的，当然现在向右了；
谎言2：保守党22席领先，优先联合他党组成政府；自由党只能在保守组阁失败时组阁；
谎言3：民调是遵循一种科学模型的，这个模型已经考虑了选区的分布及人口结构和政治倾向，理论上民调说赢就是赢，但3%的误差是允许的，6%民调领先还没有赢，这民调就成了笑话了；
四行字，三行不实，最后一行只是一个假设，说他充满谎言不过分吧？

1, The red wall - CBC news is referring to the last federal election, because the federal Liberals hold all 32 seats in Atlantic Canada.
But shi-ma-he was clearly saying they were about same "in history", which is right. Since May 1931, 6 were PC and 8 were liberal. The previous one, David, was from PC. So it's correct that NB is not "very left"

2, Quote: In a parliamentary system, the convention is that the existing premier has the first opportunity to form government.
Based on this, your claim is a lie. More seats but fewer than the majority will not give you the priority.

3, no matter the polls were right or wrong, that does not make his words a lie. you may say the numbers from polls were lies only if you can prove.

it just seems that you have problem understanding of lies/lying.

 

[密林深处]

1, The red wall - CBC news is referring to the last federal election, because the federal Liberals hold all 32 seats in Atlantic Canada.
But shi-ma-he was clearly saying they were about same "in history", which is right. Since May 1931, 6 were PC and 8 were liberal. The previous one, David, was from PC. So it's correct that NB is not "very left"

2, Quote: In a parliamentary system, the convention is that the existing premier has the first opportunity to form government.
Based on this, your claim is a lie. More seats but fewer than the majority will not give you the priority.

3, no matter the polls were right or wrong, that does not make his words a lie. you may say the numbers from polls were lies only if you can prove.

it just seems that you have problem understanding of lies/lying.

1.Red Wall=Very left. The debate is about "Very left" not "in history".
2. If both PC and Lib form government , which comes first? of course PC first.
3. To Mix up poll difference with popular votes difference is a lie.
Libs call "illegal immigrant" as "immigrant", "illegal cross border" as "irregular cross border" to mislead people is a lie.
Libs are living in lies, but they just don't call this is a lie.

 

[DKnight]

1.Red Wall=Very left. The debate is about "Very left" not "in history".
2. If both PC and Lib form government , which comes first? of course PC first.
3. To Mix up poll difference with popular votes difference is a lie.
Libs call "illegal immigrant" as "immigrant", "illegal cross border" as "irregular cross border" to mislead people is a lie.
Libs are living in lies, but they just don't call this is a lie.

You were alleging his post was full of lies and now you are saying libs are lying, those are TWO DIFFERENT things.
And you keep lying or messing up all 3 items. that's really really cheap, no good. that just makes you a quality product of CCP education.