[评论]阿省没那么惨：人们还是在花钱 92%的人仍有工作

[wxd111]

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图片来源: Jennifer Lee/CBC 阿尔伯达省的人还是在花钱，只不过比以前少了 在加拿大的能源省份阿尔伯塔，油价暴跌给当地的经济活动带来冲击，不过，根据加拿大广播公司的报道，阿省的居民们

大多在吃以前的积蓄

 

[CCC2009]

外出吃饭的人少了不少，发现餐厅吃饭的人少了。

 

[小和尚]

失业率8%被作者理解为92%的仍有工作，哈哈，
EI根据工作时间和地区，最长领45个星期，后面再找不到工作就不计入失业率。
西方的不说谎，就是选择性巧妙性的偷换概念。
这套路，家园网为数不多的美国高层人物awander同学深谙其道。

 

[gasmetro]

全怨中国人买加拿大螃蟹龙虾和樱桃，哄抬物价，一群没见过市面的土鳖。

失业率8%被作者理解为92%的仍有工作，哈哈，
EI根据工作时间和地区，最长领45个星期，后面再找不到工作就不计入失业率。
西方的不说谎，就是选择性巧妙性的偷换概念。
这套路，家园网为数不多的美国高层人物awander同学深谙其道。

 

[盘古]

失业率8%被作者理解为92%的仍有工作，哈哈，
EI根据工作时间和地区，最长领45个星期，后面再找不到工作就不计入失业率。
西方的不说谎，就是选择性巧妙性的偷换概念。
这套路，家园网为数不多的美国高层人物awander同学深谙其道。

哈哈，你也有今天，被偷换概念气到，那你动不动就按人口总数算，气别人时候怎么不说呢。话说你起的够早啊，在国内呢？

 

[nickelnaire]

失业率8%被作者理解为92%的仍有工作，哈哈，
EI根据工作时间和地区，最长领45个星期，后面再找不到工作就不计入失业率。
西方的不说谎，就是选择性巧妙性的偷换概念。
这套路，家园网为数不多的美国高层人物awander同学深谙其道。

哈哈，上次桃老师说那里的石油行业相关工程师70%失业，估计这个差不多

 

[waren]

哈哈，上次桃老师说那里的石油行业相关工程师70%失业，估计这个差不多

这些人到多伦多，萨省抢工作，压力更大了。

 

[gasmetro]

很多人以前不是做石油的，这回是从新回到老本行，殃及池鱼

这些人到多伦多，萨省抢工作，压力更大了。

 

[CanUC]

失业率8%被作者理解为92%的仍有工作，哈哈，
EI根据工作时间和地区，最长领45个星期，后面再找不到工作就不计入失业率。
西方的不说谎，就是选择性巧妙性的偷换概念。
这套路，家园网为数不多的美国高层人物awander同学深谙其道。

你不是更会这套，拿某天的AQI来说北京的空气很好。

 

[DKnight]

失业率8%被作者理解为92%的仍有工作，哈哈，
EI根据工作时间和地区，最长领45个星期，后面再找不到工作就不计入失业率。
西方的不说谎，就是选择性巧妙性的偷换概念。
这套路，家园网为数不多的美国高层人物awander同学深谙其道。

谁告诉你失业率没有计入领完EI的人？？造谣无耻，信谣无脑。放心，我不是为了反驳你的无耻，只是为了试图拯救一些无脑。

你长期不懈的努力工作可以帮助无脑移民离开加拿大，以避免降低平均智商，也算是你对加拿大的另类解除贡献。点赞的各位如果还有独立思考能力，请阅读相关链接。否则还是最好离开加拿大，你的智商可能让你难以生存下去。

The unemployment rate is the number of unemployed as a percentage of the labour force (employed and unemployed).

http://www.statcan.gc.ca/daily-quotidien/160205/dq160205a-eng.htm

Alberta失业率确实不算高，跟全国平均水平非常接近：

Alberta unemployment rate hits 7.4%
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calgary/unemployment-rate-alberta-statistics-canada-1.3435195

 

[wxd111]

原来年薪6-7万，现在打零工挣2万也算就业了吗，够养家糊口吗?看看政府的税收就知道有多糟了。

 

[小和尚]

谁告诉你失业率没有计入领完EI的人？？造谣无耻，信谣无脑。放心，我不是为了反驳你的无耻，只是为了试图拯救一些无脑。

你长期不懈的努力工作可以帮助无脑移民离开加拿大，以避免降低平均智商，也算是你对加拿大的另类解除贡献。点赞的各位如果还有独立思考能力，请阅读相关链接。否则还是最好离开加拿大，你的智商可能让你难以生存下去。


http://www.statcan.gc.ca/daily-quotidien/160205/dq160205a-eng.htm

Alberta失业率确实不算高，跟全国平均水平非常接近：

Alberta unemployment rate hits 7.4%
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calgary/unemployment-rate-alberta-statistics-canada-1.3435195

你确实做事不认真，哪天你有我一半认真你就成功了，加拿大统计局就是骗你们这类蠢人的，
给你链接看看，关于失业率计算方法，加拿大经济学教授就没你那么好骗。并且敢于说出来。

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/repo...tually-worse-than-numbers-show/article543301/

Statistic Canada measures unemployment in a very specific way, asking a representative sample of Canadians if they did anything during a four week period to look for a job.

If you are not actively looking, then you are not considered unemployed.

Incorporating those who are not looking for work, but certainly want a job, into the calculations- -- those who are waiting for a recall from a previous employer or waiting for a reply to applications already made; those who have given up looking for jobs because they believe none are available; and those who are working part-time but want and can't get more hours of work--- leads to a much higher unemployment rate.

According to official calculations the average monthly unemployment rate during 2011 was 7.4 per cent, but the more comprehensive measure implies 10.6 per cent.

The official rate understates the waste of human resources, but it also doesn't tell us about the hardship being experienced.

A given unemployment rate could be due to rapid turnover in the labour market, with any one person experiencing a short spell of a job search, with a different group next month going through the same experience and also finding a job within a couple of weeks. Or it could reflect the same individuals being jobless each and every month of the year, and suffering very long spells of unemployment.

In the first case, unemployment does not entail much hardship; in the second it does.

In fact, the job losses triggered by the recession have led to much longer spells of unemployment.

Only 12 per cent of all the unemployed in 2008 had spent six or more months looking for a job. But in 2011 more than one-in-five, fully 21 per cent, were in this situation. Between these years the average length of an unemployment spell jumped by a month and half, from 14.8 weeks to 21.1 weeks.

All this said, the official unemployment rate is calculated using accepted international principles, and offers a good sense of how the job market is changing from month-to-month and year-to-year.

It also offers a basis for comparing the situation in our country to that in others.

While all statistical agencies follow the same principles in calculating these numbers, there remain subtle but important differences in how they are put into practice. This is the case in the comparison that is of most relevance to Canadians, that with the United States.

During 2011 the official unemployment rate in Canada was 1 1/2 percentage points lower than the U.S. rate (7.4 per cent versus 8.9 per cent).

But Statistics Canada offers an alternative calculation that follows as best as it can the procedures used by the Bureau of Labor Statistics, and when this alternative is used the gap in the unemployment rates is even larger: almost 2 1/2 percentage points (6.5 per cent versus 8.9 per cent).

This is one case in which the official measure is painting a less rosy picture than it should.

Statistics Canada is certainly aware of the fact that no one statistic can offer a full portrait of the unemployed even though it never presents a more nuanced analysis in any of its monthly reports. In fact the text of today's press release mentions the word "unemployment" only once.

The official measure is no doubt central to any story about unemployment, but if you look hard you will find this well written article on its website, " Inside the labour market downturn", that uses all eight unemployment rates that Statistics Canada in fact calculates every month.

很多人跑到西方只做三件事：
1）跪倒
2）趴下
3）叩头
你们的质疑精神呢？都用在中国政府了？
亦或你们智商低？稍微绕个圈你们就糊涂了？
就像被朝三暮四的榛子骗的猴子

 

[Feat]

一年前，上班时刻的公共汽车站很多人挤不上车，只好等下一辆。现在，一车有一小半的人不在了，而车里还有一小半是学生，有时候还能混到座位。这就是现状。

 

[CanUC]

你确实做事不认真，哪天你有我一半认真你就成功了，加拿大统计局就是骗你们这类蠢人的，
给你链接看看，关于失业率计算方法，加拿大经济学教授就没你那么好骗。并且敢于说出来。

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/repo...tually-worse-than-numbers-show/article543301/

Statistic Canada measures unemployment in a very specific way, asking a representative sample of Canadians if they did anything during a four week period to look for a job.

If you are not actively looking, then you are not considered unemployed.

Incorporating those who are not looking for work, but certainly want a job, into the calculations- -- those who are waiting for a recall from a previous employer or waiting for a reply to applications already made; those who have given up looking for jobs because they believe none are available; and those who are working part-time but want and can't get more hours of work--- leads to a much higher unemployment rate.

According to official calculations the average monthly unemployment rate during 2011 was 7.4 per cent, but the more comprehensive measure implies 10.6 per cent.

The official rate understates the waste of human resources, but it also doesn't tell us about the hardship being experienced.

A given unemployment rate could be due to rapid turnover in the labour market, with any one person experiencing a short spell of a job search, with a different group next month going through the same experience and also finding a job within a couple of weeks. Or it could reflect the same individuals being jobless each and every month of the year, and suffering very long spells of unemployment.

In the first case, unemployment does not entail much hardship; in the second it does.

In fact, the job losses triggered by the recession have led to much longer spells of unemployment.

Only 12 per cent of all the unemployed in 2008 had spent six or more months looking for a job. But in 2011 more than one-in-five, fully 21 per cent, were in this situation. Between these years the average length of an unemployment spell jumped by a month and half, from 14.8 weeks to 21.1 weeks.

All this said, the official unemployment rate is calculated using accepted international principles, and offers a good sense of how the job market is changing from month-to-month and year-to-year.

It also offers a basis for comparing the situation in our country to that in others.

While all statistical agencies follow the same principles in calculating these numbers, there remain subtle but important differences in how they are put into practice. This is the case in the comparison that is of most relevance to Canadians, that with the United States.

During 2011 the official unemployment rate in Canada was 1 1/2 percentage points lower than the U.S. rate (7.4 per cent versus 8.9 per cent).

But Statistics Canada offers an alternative calculation that follows as best as it can the procedures used by the Bureau of Labor Statistics, and when this alternative is used the gap in the unemployment rates is even larger: almost 2 1/2 percentage points (6.5 per cent versus 8.9 per cent).

This is one case in which the official measure is painting a less rosy picture than it should.

Statistics Canada is certainly aware of the fact that no one statistic can offer a full portrait of the unemployed even though it never presents a more nuanced analysis in any of its monthly reports. In fact the text of today's press release mentions the word "unemployment" only once.

The official measure is no doubt central to any story about unemployment, but if you look hard you will find this well written article on its website, " Inside the labour market downturn", that uses all eight unemployment rates that Statistics Canada in fact calculates every month.

很多人跑到西方只做三件事：
1）跪倒
2）趴下
3）叩头
你们的质疑精神呢？都用在中国政府了？
亦或你们智商低？稍微绕个圈你们就糊涂了？
就像被朝三暮四的榛子骗的猴子

同问

很多人在东方只做三件事：
1）跪倒
2）趴下
3）叩头
到了西方也忘不了只做三件事：
1）跪倒
2）趴下
3）叩头

两个的区别是，到了西方依旧朝着东方
1）跪倒
2）趴下
3）叩头

用一天的AQI来推翻北京气象局的11月至12月间36%的重度污染天气，和全年12%的重度污染天气

哪天你有我十分之一真实，你就成功了

 

[gasmetro]

这个比较有说服力。
不过卡成的油老大们前些年都赚足了，现在估计享受生活呢

一年前，上班时刻的公共汽车站很多人挤不上车，只好等下一辆。现在，一车有一小半的人不在了，而车里还有一小半是学生，有时候还能混到座位。这就是现状。

 

[lier]

这个比较有说服力。
不过卡成的油老大们前些年都赚足了，现在估计享受生活呢

再不好的经济影响的也是打工的，至于那些大老板们的生活不会受任何影响。

 

[小和尚]

你确实做事不认真，哪天你有我一半认真你就成功了，加拿大统计局就是骗你们这类蠢人的，
给你链接看看，关于失业率计算方法，加拿大经济学教授就没你那么好骗。并且敢于说出来。

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/repo...tually-worse-than-numbers-show/article543301/

Statistic Canada measures unemployment in a very specific way, asking a representative sample of Canadians if they did anything during a four week period to look for a job.

If you are not actively looking, then you are not considered unemployed.

Incorporating those who are not looking for work, but certainly want a job, into the calculations- -- those who are waiting for a recall from a previous employer or waiting for a reply to applications already made; those who have given up looking for jobs because they believe none are available; and those who are working part-time but want and can't get more hours of work--- leads to a much higher unemployment rate.

According to official calculations the average monthly unemployment rate during 2011 was 7.4 per cent, but the more comprehensive measure implies 10.6 per cent.

The official rate understates the waste of human resources, but it also doesn't tell us about the hardship being experienced.

A given unemployment rate could be due to rapid turnover in the labour market, with any one person experiencing a short spell of a job search, with a different group next month going through the same experience and also finding a job within a couple of weeks. Or it could reflect the same individuals being jobless each and every month of the year, and suffering very long spells of unemployment.

In the first case, unemployment does not entail much hardship; in the second it does.

In fact, the job losses triggered by the recession have led to much longer spells of unemployment.

Only 12 per cent of all the unemployed in 2008 had spent six or more months looking for a job. But in 2011 more than one-in-five, fully 21 per cent, were in this situation. Between these years the average length of an unemployment spell jumped by a month and half, from 14.8 weeks to 21.1 weeks.

All this said, the official unemployment rate is calculated using accepted international principles, and offers a good sense of how the job market is changing from month-to-month and year-to-year.

It also offers a basis for comparing the situation in our country to that in others.

While all statistical agencies follow the same principles in calculating these numbers, there remain subtle but important differences in how they are put into practice. This is the case in the comparison that is of most relevance to Canadians, that with the United States.

During 2011 the official unemployment rate in Canada was 1 1/2 percentage points lower than the U.S. rate (7.4 per cent versus 8.9 per cent).

But Statistics Canada offers an alternative calculation that follows as best as it can the procedures used by the Bureau of Labor Statistics, and when this alternative is used the gap in the unemployment rates is even larger: almost 2 1/2 percentage points (6.5 per cent versus 8.9 per cent).

This is one case in which the official measure is painting a less rosy picture than it should.

Statistics Canada is certainly aware of the fact that no one statistic can offer a full portrait of the unemployed even though it never presents a more nuanced analysis in any of its monthly reports. In fact the text of today's press release mentions the word "unemployment" only once.

The official measure is no doubt central to any story about unemployment, but if you look hard you will find this well written article on its website, " Inside the labour market downturn", that uses all eight unemployment rates that Statistics Canada in fact calculates every month.

很多人跑到西方只做三件事：
1）跪倒
2）趴下
3）叩头
你们的质疑精神呢？都用在中国政府了？
亦或你们智商低？稍微绕个圈你们就糊涂了？
就像被朝三暮四的榛子骗的猴子

大家看看附录里的PDF文档，来自加拿大统计局。
《Inside the labour market downturn》
Working or not?
In October 2008, the working-age population was
27 million (Table 1). Of these, 17.2 million were
employed—an employment rate of 64%. With 1.1 million
unemployed, the labour force numbered 18.3
million and the unemployment rate was 6.1%. Another
8.7 million were not participating
in the labour force, just under onethird
of the working-age population.
上面那段简单翻译就是：在失业率6.1%的外表下，实际有接近1/3的适龄工作人口是没有工作的。


说某些人是SB真是高看了他们，其实他们SB不如，
SB没文化，看不懂报表，索性跑去大马路上看看，也比他们了解得更加实际。

大家看看附录里的PDF文档（点击附件可以下载），来自加拿大统计局。
《Inside the labour market downturn》

 

[john56]

上下班高峰期看看，堵的不像都失业。

 

[CanUC]

这个比较有说服力。
不过卡成的油老大们前些年都赚足了，现在估计享受生活呢

反正多伦多 401 403 高速公路上每到上下班时间想过60km是没有太大可能的。我只走这两条线，其他不知道。