RBH 拒重发支票给我

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RBH(Rothmand,Benson&Hedges Inc.), 一家大公司,半年前开给我一张几百元的支票。我因疏忽,忘了兑现。如今因超过6个月,银行拒绝兑现,RBH也拒绝重新开支票给我。
加拿大公司怎么会如此无赖,那是我的钱,怎么好意思不还给我。
 
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查网上,有的是雇员丢了支票雇主拒绝重发,甚至有CPP把支票寄到老地址导致丢失,CPP拒绝重发的。有建议说去小额法庭或劳动仲裁法庭,虽然雇员有错但毕竟钱没有从雇主或CPP帐号消失,雇员有可能追回,但是雇员很可能因此被找理由开除。
所以我说,这里的“法制社会”一样的“黑”,一样没有诚信,不像之前想象的那么“圣洁”,就像南海仲裁。所以谁也不要指责谁,好像自己站在道德制高点上似的,一切靠拳头说话。
 
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这是人家的错误?
为什么不检讨一下自己的过失呢?好像支票的有限期是半年。
是我的疏忽。
但是即使象我们这么“劣等”的中国人,我也不会take advantage of 别人的疏忽。毕竟是别人的钱,人家忘了来取,后来想起来了回来来取,就不给人家啦? 我不会这样做。
 
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是我的疏忽。
但是即使象我们这么“劣等”的中国人,我也不会take advantage of 别人的疏忽。毕竟是别人的钱,人家忘了来取,后来想起来了回来来取,就不给人家啦? 我不会这样做。
这话不对,要是给你补发的话,人家也会增加成本。从你领到支票的那一刻,你就应该注意到上面的时间点,第一时间存入银行。

如果对方公司给你重开,那是对方公司好,如果对方公司拒绝给你重开,你看看有没有法律规定你可以要求别人重开,否则你就该为自己的失误买单。

举个例子,中国有诉讼有效期,一般民事诉讼为两年,两年一过,你起诉也赢不了了。
 

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查网上,有的是雇员丢了支票雇主拒绝重发,甚至有CPP把支票寄到老地址导致丢失,CPP拒绝重发的。有建议说去小额法庭或劳动仲裁法庭,虽然雇员有错但毕竟钱没有从雇主或CPP帐号消失,雇员有可能追回,但是雇员很可能因此被找理由开除。
所以我说,这里的法制社会一样的“黑”,一样没有诚信,不像之前想象的那么“圣洁”,就像南海仲裁。
对了,法治国家,不是法制国家。法治国家是很好的国家,一切以法律为依据,比如美国,加拿大等。法制国家是统治者拿法律制度来限制其他阶层,法律的制定过程并不民主。

你的情况,正是法治国家允许的,就是利用规则把自身利益最大化。你有本事就找出法律条文,告公司违法,否则你的要求没有法律依据,在法治国家,你自认倒霉吧。事实上,所有法治国家的立法假设就是:所有人、所有机构都是自私的,无论你多自私,法律是最底线。
 
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这话不对,要是给你补发的话,人家也会增加成本。从你领到支票的那一刻,你就应该注意到上面的时间点,第一时间存入银行。

如果对方公司给你重开,那是对方公司好,如果对方公司拒绝给你重开,你看看有没有法律规定你可以要求别人重开,否则你就该为自己的失误买单。

举个例子,中国有诉讼有效期,一般民事诉讼为两年,两年一过,你起诉也赢不了了。
看看这个:
These people don't know what they are talking about. You should have posted this in the Business&Finance section. Lost or destroyed paychecks are a common thing and most employers have no problem reissuing a new one. It happens all the time, and it's simple to remedy the situation.

All they have to do is call the bank, put a stop on the check, and issue you a new one. There you go. If they refuse, you can call the Labor Department and file a wage claim. Make sure you give them a written notice before you do. Refusing to reissue the check is so irrational because if you pay the stop fee they have nothing to lose. You are right. They do not have the right to take advantage of an employee's misfortune.

People on here will tell you that as soon as the check is in your hands it's your responsibility, but that's an OPINION and not based in anything the Labor Department or wage laws says. If something happens to the check, it is your employers responsibility because only they have the ability to do something about it, and it is always an employers responsibility to make sure employees are paid no matter what.

Again, because they give you the check does not mean you were "paid". You didn't receive your money. They still have your money in their bank account for that pay period and it has not been given for your two weeks of work. People can say what they want about what they personally THINK about the situation, but that is not the law.
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Call or go to labor board (at/in unemployment office in most states) and tell them your situation. If you live in a right to work state you might get fired though. Not illegal to fire you for no reason. Good luck dude.
现实就是这么残酷。
西方法制并不教人向善,就像孔庆东骂某些港人的,是被西方法治给驯服的,人们仍然不择手段地往自己口袋里扒拉昧良心的钱。相比之下,中国的儒教教人向善,不靠法律条文。不过,近二三十年,人心也变坏了。
 

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These people don't know what they are talking about. You should have posted this in the Business&Finance section. Lost or destroyed paychecks are a common thing and most employers have no problem reissuing a new one. It happens all the time, and it's simple to remedy the situation.

All they have to do is call the bank, put a stop on the check, and issue you a new one. There you go. If they refuse, you can call the Labor Department and file a wage claim. Make sure you give them a written notice before you do. Refusing to reissue the check is so irrational because if you pay the stop fee they have nothing to lose. You are right. They do not have the right to take advantage of an employee's misfortune.

People on here will tell you that as soon as the check is in your hands it's your responsibility, but that's an OPINION and not based in anything the Labor Department or wage laws says. If something happens to the check, it is your employers responsibility because only they have the ability to do something about it, and it is always an employers responsibility to make sure employees are paid no matter what.

Again, because they give you the check does not mean you were "paid". You didn't receive your money. They still have your money in their bank account for that pay period and it has not been given for your two weeks of work. People can say what they want about what they personally THINK about the situation, but that is not the law.
再看:
Call or go to labor board (at/in unemployment office in most states) and tell them your situation. If you live in a right to work state you might get fired though. Not illegal to fire you for no reason. Good luck dude.
现实就是这么残酷。
西方法制并不教人向善,就像孔庆东骂某些港人的,是被西方法治给驯服的,人们仍然不择手段地往自己口袋里扒拉昧良心的钱。相比之下,中国的儒教教人向善,不靠法律条文。不过,近二三十年,人心也变坏了。
你太理想化了。事实上,中国的儒教让人最多成为岳不群式的伪君子,满口仁义道德,背地里男盗女娼。中国整个社会也不过是为尊者饰、为尊者讳;薄熙来一天在台上,重庆的报纸一天就歌颂他的丰功伟绩;四人帮搬倒前一天的《大公报》和搬到那一天的《大公报》早就是香港人的笑柄。

西方法治呢?就假定人是自私的,所以规定了哪些不能做,没规定的以后慢慢再补立法,或者法官释法来弥补。所以,广东福建等地的农民到了新加坡,20多年后,你看到人民彬彬有礼;中国富二代、官二代,跑来加拿大美国因为飙车等被判刑;相反,美国的所谓心理学硕士到了深圳,公交车上强摸人奶子,被抓进深圳福田景田派出所,被逼着检讨书,放了出来。我看要是这美国哥们到新加坡摸人奶子,鞭刑是少不了,一辈子都不敢在新加坡乱来。所以这些对比,不正说明,法治让坏人变好人吗?而中国的大环境却让好人变成坏人。
 
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你太理想化了。事实上,中国的儒教让人最多成为岳不群式的伪君子,满口仁义道德,背地里男盗女娼。中国整个社会也不过是为尊者饰、为尊者讳;薄熙来一天在台上,重庆的报纸一天就歌颂他的丰功伟绩;四人帮搬倒前一天的《大公报》和搬到那一天的《大公报》早就是香港人的笑柄。

西方法治呢?就假定人是自私的,所以规定了哪些不能做,没规定的以后慢慢再补立法,或者法官释法来弥补。所以,广东福建等地的农民到了新加坡,20多年后,你看到人民彬彬有礼;中国富二代、官二代,跑来加拿大美国因为飙车等被判刑;相反,美国的所谓心理学硕士到了深圳,公交车上强摸人奶子,被抓进深圳福田景田派出所,被逼着检讨书,放了出来。我看要是这美国哥们到新加坡摸人奶子,鞭刑是少不了,一辈子都不敢在新加坡乱来。所以这些对比,不正说明,法治让坏人变好人吗?而中国的大环境却让好人变成坏人。
伪君子是儒教谴责的对象,碰到包公,无处躲藏。法制下昧良心的“合法”无赖,包公也无可奈何。儒教教人越来越善,法制教人越来越精。诚实、善良的中国人,如今只能在偏僻的乡下还存在,引进西方做法使人越来越无法无天,没有良心,没有敬畏。
 

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伪君子是儒教谴责的对象,碰到包公,无处躲藏。法制下昧良心的“合法”无赖,包公也无可奈何。儒教教人越来越善,法制教人越来越精。诚实、善良的中国人,如今只能在偏僻的乡下还存在,引进西方做法使人越来越无法无天,没有良心,没有敬畏。
你先去读一下,什么叫儒教,然后再辩论吧,中国现在的社会不是法治,是人治,或者叫人制。法治社会,敬畏的是法律,铤而走险的人除外。
 

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