[评论]加拿大拟建穆斯林小区(华人曾想干 但失败了)！续，加拿大省长直接打脸：穆斯林小区，违反本省价值观

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加拿大蒙特利尔市南岸的一个穆斯林小区拟建项目引关注
最近，加拿大蒙特利尔市郊的一个穆斯林小区拟建项目引起了媒体的关注。
11月14日，加拿大广播公司发表了记者 Thomas Gerbet 的独家报道，报道说，在蒙特利尔南岸布罗萨尔 ( Brossard)市的一个清真寺，最近推出了一个建设穆斯林居民小区的计划，正在征求清真寺教徒们的意见。
报道说，根据这个清真寺11月6日发给所有成员的一封电子邮件，这个开发项目将在离布罗萨尔市大约 30公里远的地方，计划是购买一块面积100公顷的地皮，为穆斯林家庭建设住宅，但目前地皮尚未敲定。
据了解，短短几天的时间，已经有几十户人家表示对项目感兴趣，该清真寺将在本周五，11月18日，举行一个信息会议。

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帮助无力买房的穆斯林
这个项目的开发商是68岁的纳比尔·瓦尔达(Nabil Warda)，他担任该清真寺的会计和税务专家，他告诉加拿大广播公司，“我们的想法是创建一个社区”。
他解释说，这个项目的目的是帮助穆斯林家庭置业，特别是那些经济状况最不好的人，“给那些买不起房子的人一个机会”。
开发项目主要针对那些现在每个月支付$ 700到 900 加元房租的家庭，项目将提供小型的预制房屋，售价在 10万 到 12 万加元之间。
完工时间计划最早在2017年夏天，最晚在2019年的夏天。
对非穆斯林开放？
纳比尔·瓦尔达接着表示，这个项目对非穆斯林也不拒绝，只要他们拥有“共同价值观”，他举了个例子，比如小区里可能有80个穆斯林家庭和20个非穆斯林家庭。
他说，我们的目标是生活在和平、和谐之中，能够运用伊斯兰教的“最佳价值，我们来加拿大，就是因为 (加拿大)尊重人权，大家都能有机会”。
批评与怀疑
加拿大广播公司报道说，清真寺的成员在收到这个项目草案后，也有怀疑和批评意见。
但瓦尔达回答说， “如果我们总是听从批评，那就什么也做不了。虽然我听到了不少批评，但我知道这是一条正确的道路”。
这位开发商承认，这个项目会面临“巨大的挑战”，而且有可能被定性为 “聚居区”。
不过，他仍然抱有信心，认为他所接触的城市不会拒绝卖给他地皮。
他说， “很明显，可能会有各种各样的担心和害怕，但有谁不愿意收我们的税呢?”
华人的一个项目
加拿大广播公司报道说，在了解到这个穆斯林小区项目的同时，也顺便查看了一下蒙特利尔郊区是否还有其他社区的住宅建设项目。
报道说，魁北克省和安大略省的一些华人家庭曾经计划买块地皮，生活在一起，这个开发项目的中心是购买约30公顷的地，建设小型住宅，而且家家都有一块农田。
报道说，这些华人家庭目前分别居住在蒙特利尔、多伦多、舍布鲁克和渥太华几个城市，通过网络联系在一起，最近几个月，他们的房地产经纪人曾经与位于蒙特利尔西部的一个小镇接触，想购买一块农业用地，但最终谈判失败，因为农业区内不允许建立数套房子。
(RCI with Radio Canada)

哈哈哈哈

 

[trwetwetwet]

瓦尔达回答说， “如果我们总是听从批评，那就什么也做不了。虽然我听到了不少批评，但我知道这是一条正确的道路”。
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不奇怪啊，绿教从不会在乎别人的想法，自己一意孤行，然后还得摆出一副傲慢的嘴脸拿宗教说事。

 

[秦砖汉瓦]

育空给他们一片地圈起来自生自灭去吧

 

[shuhaiyanzhong]

华人聚居在一起都是苦逼没办法，华人聚居区孩子连女童军的饼干都卖不出去，都得跑到其他族裔区卖，都是好处拼命往自己怀里划拉而没有公共意识的人精

 

[trwetwetwet]

华人聚居在一起都是苦逼没办法，华人聚居区孩子连女童军的饼干都卖不出去，都得跑到其他族裔区卖，都是好处拼命往自己怀里划拉而没有公共意识的人精

我可是每次都买的，这不我儿子又从学校拿回来义卖饼干巧克力，我每样order了一盒，虽然家里没人爱吃，但算个心意吧。

 

[trwetwetwet]

瓦尔达回答说， “如果我们总是听从批评，那就什么也做不了。虽然我听到了不少批评，但我知道这是一条正确的道路”。
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不奇怪啊，绿教从不会在乎别人的想法，自己一意孤行，然后还得摆出一副傲慢的嘴脸拿宗教说事。

以后等着这片房价大跌吧，看过一个新闻说江苏某地，回回聚集在那买房导致汉人陆续搬出，那片房价大跌。

 

[CDN]

"
对非穆斯林开放？

纳比尔·瓦尔达接着表示，这个项目对非穆斯林也不拒绝，只要他们拥有“共同价值观”
"
"共同价值观"，哈哈，太有内涵了。

 

[sishixny]

千里之堤，溃于蚁穴。看看欧洲国家的那些穆斯林区，后果一目了然。扩张，扩张，利用愚蠢的善良。

 

[秦砖汉瓦]

我可是每次都买的，这不我儿子又从学校拿回来义卖饼干巧克力，我每样order了一盒，虽然家里没人爱吃，但算个心意吧。

我家也是，买了就当赞助了。

 

[温东仔]

华人聚居在一起都是苦逼没办法，华人聚居区孩子连女童军的饼干都卖不出去，都得跑到其他族裔区卖，都是好处拼命往自己怀里划拉而没有公共意识的人精

解放区的人民还是要学好马列，跟共产党走。

 

[杰里肥狮]

虽然穆斯林有很多教义咱不认同,但是还是要避免歧视。那种高高在上的感觉只能虚幻地爽一下。小心你扔出去的镖哪天飞回自己身上。回回这样的字眼要尽量避免。

 

[3322]

虽然穆斯林有很多教义咱不认同,但是还是要避免歧视。那种高高在上的感觉只能虚幻地爽一下。小心你扔出去的镖哪天飞回自己身上。回回这样的字眼要尽量避免。

别以为能和白皮平起平坐,黄祸的帽子还没摘掉呢.

 

[waren]

建木木区吧，最好遍地开花都是木木区，加拿大川普出现不会远了。到时候，又有闹剧看了。
不过，华人已经成功攻占了温，多一些地区。
是祸是福，不知道，但，绝对是有利有弊。

 

[CCOYYOTEE]

只要不影响他人，爱怎么玩就怎么玩，3P 都不犯法，在一起念个古兰经有罪？
蒙特利尔北边有一个犹太人社区，30几年前一帮固守传统价值的犹太人建立起来的，那里的地方法规（by-law）女人不准开车，家里不准开电视收音机。也没有人为难他们。你接受 by-law 你就住进来，没人干涉你的自由。(现在他们在孩子教育问题上面临法律挑战，因为孩子没有能力做出自己的选择)

In order to protect the community from what he perceived as the moral decay of the outside community, Rebbe Lowy put together a set of by-laws "to govern the behavior of all the residents" of Kiryas Tosh.[7] To live in this community, residents need to abide by these by-laws.[7]

1. No book, newspaper, or magazine is permitted in the buildings of the community, unless their content is in conformity to strictly Orthodox Judaism.
2. All male members of the community must attend religious services, three times per day, at the synagogue.
3. No radio, television, record, or cassette is allowed in the buildings of the community.
4. No members of the community may attend the cinema or be present at any theatrical performance under the penalty of immediate expulsion.
5. All women residing in the community must dress in accordance with the Orthodox laws of modesty, as follows:
6. All dresses must be at least four inches below the knees, no trousers or panty-hose may be worn by women and girls 3 years of age or older.
7. Married women's hair must be completely covered in public, by a scarf or by a wig.
8. It is forbidden for unrelated men and women to walk together in the street.
9. Men and women must be separated by a wall (at least 7 feet high), when attending any gathering of a social or religious nature.
10. All food consumed in the buildings of the community must conform to the dietary laws of the Code of Laws and be approved by the chief Rabbi or his second in command.
11. No car may be driven by an unmarried man.
12. The members must submit any interpersonal conflict to the arbitration of a rabbinical court.
13. The Sabbath must be observed in strict conformity to Jewish law.
14. Male members of the community must study the Torah and other religious texts for at least two hours a day.

Teachers of secular subjects who come into the community must follow guidelines of their own:

1. All textbooks and literature to be used by the students in class or at home... must first be approved by the principal.
2. No stencil or photo-copy of any other book may be used without approval.
3. Students are not permitted to go to the public library nor is the teacher permitted to bring into the school, for the students, any such books.
4. No newspaper or magazine may be read in school or hung up. Students are not permitted to read the above at home either.
5. No records or tape may be used in the classroom without approval.
6. No extra subjects, books, magazine supplement or other information which is not on the required curriculum of the school may be taught.
7. For extra credit work or for class projects, students should not be told to write away for such material. The teacher should supply them with the material with approval.
8. No discussion on boyfriends.
9. No discussions of reproduction.
10. No discussion about radio, television or movies.
11. No discussion on religion.
12. No discussion about Women's Liberation
13. No homework on Thursdays.

 

[blue2003]

这些人也是找灭，魁省是加拿大反穆斯林最凶狠的地方，这不是找枪口撞吗。

 

[stang]

应该不会有地方政府会允许这么做吧？
一种族裔/宗教聚居在一起可不是好事情，尤其是低收入人士聚集，若再加上宗教因素，很可怕。
迄今为止加拿大还没有那种大规模的贫民区，就像美国一些城市那样。

贫富不均基尼系数过大才是根本原因，若大家都能安居乐业的，有点儿宗教习惯差异也能凑合。
老话说“穷山恶水出刁民”，就这个意思。

 

[sishixny]

这些人也是找灭，魁省是加拿大反穆斯林最凶狠的地方，这不是找枪口撞吗。

就是要这样，才能引起更多不明事理的同情。同情他们的人不明白，宗教和人种不是一回事，也不会去了解为什么一个主要靠生育传播的意识形态，为什么会有那么多的非议，为什么是他们，为什么总是他们？

 

[sishixny]

应该不会有地方政府会允许这么做吧？
一种族裔/宗教聚居在一起可不是好事情，尤其是低收入人士聚集，若再加上宗教因素，很可怕。
迄今为止加拿大还没有那种大规模的贫民区，就像美国一些城市那样。

贫富不均基尼系数过大才是根本原因，若大家都能安居乐业的，有点儿宗教习惯差异也能凑合。
老话说“穷山恶水出刁民”，就这个意思。

只要不影响他人，爱怎么玩就怎么玩，3P 都不犯法，在一起念个古兰经有罪？
蒙特利尔北边有一个犹太人社区，30几年前一帮固守传统价值的犹太人建立起来的，那里的地方法规（by-law）女人不准开车，家里不准开电视收音机。也没有人为难他们。你接受 by-law 你就住进来，没人干涉你的自由。(现在他们在孩子教育问题上面临法律挑战，因为孩子没有能力做出自己的选择)

In order to protect the community from what he perceived as the moral decay of the outside community, Rebbe Lowy put together a set of by-laws "to govern the behavior of all the residents" of Kiryas Tosh.[7] To live in this community, residents need to abide by these by-laws.[7]

1. No book, newspaper, or magazine is permitted in the buildings of the community, unless their content is in conformity to strictly Orthodox Judaism.
2. All male members of the community must attend religious services, three times per day, at the synagogue.
3. No radio, television, record, or cassette is allowed in the buildings of the community.
4. No members of the community may attend the cinema or be present at any theatrical performance under the penalty of immediate expulsion.
5. All women residing in the community must dress in accordance with the Orthodox laws of modesty, as follows:
6. All dresses must be at least four inches below the knees, no trousers or panty-hose may be worn by women and girls 3 years of age or older.
7. Married women's hair must be completely covered in public, by a scarf or by a wig.
8. It is forbidden for unrelated men and women to walk together in the street.
9. Men and women must be separated by a wall (at least 7 feet high), when attending any gathering of a social or religious nature.
10. All food consumed in the buildings of the community must conform to the dietary laws of the Code of Laws and be approved by the chief Rabbi or his second in command.
11. No car may be driven by an unmarried man.
12. The members must submit any interpersonal conflict to the arbitration of a rabbinical court.
13. The Sabbath must be observed in strict conformity to Jewish law.
14. Male members of the community must study the Torah and other religious texts for at least two hours a day.

Teachers of secular subjects who come into the community must follow guidelines of their own:

1. All textbooks and literature to be used by the students in class or at home... must first be approved by the principal.
2. No stencil or photo-copy of any other book may be used without approval.
3. Students are not permitted to go to the public library nor is the teacher permitted to bring into the school, for the students, any such books.
4. No newspaper or magazine may be read in school or hung up. Students are not permitted to read the above at home either.
5. No records or tape may be used in the classroom without approval.
6. No extra subjects, books, magazine supplement or other information which is not on the required curriculum of the school may be taught.
7. For extra credit work or for class projects, students should not be told to write away for such material. The teacher should supply them with the material with approval.
8. No discussion on boyfriends.
9. No discussions of reproduction.
10. No discussion about radio, television or movies.
11. No discussion on religion.
12. No discussion about Women's Liberation
13. No homework on Thursdays.

看看法国，英国，比利时等国与穆斯林相关的youtube视频，看他们是不是不影响他人

 

[清风拂面]

只要不影响他人，爱怎么玩就怎么玩，3P 都不犯法，在一起念个古兰经有罪？
蒙特利尔北边有一个犹太人社区，30几年前一帮固守传统价值的犹太人建立起来的，那里的地方法规（by-law）女人不准开车，家里不准开电视收音机。也没有人为难他们。你接受 by-law 你就住进来，没人干涉你的自由。(现在他们在孩子教育问题上面临法律挑战，因为孩子没有能力做出自己的选择)

In order to protect the community from what he perceived as the moral decay of the outside community, Rebbe Lowy put together a set of by-laws "to govern the behavior of all the residents" of Kiryas Tosh.[7] To live in this community, residents need to abide by these by-laws.[7]

1. No book, newspaper, or magazine is permitted in the buildings of the community, unless their content is in conformity to strictly Orthodox Judaism.
2. All male members of the community must attend religious services, three times per day, at the synagogue.
3. No radio, television, record, or cassette is allowed in the buildings of the community.
4. No members of the community may attend the cinema or be present at any theatrical performance under the penalty of immediate expulsion.
5. All women residing in the community must dress in accordance with the Orthodox laws of modesty, as follows:
6. All dresses must be at least four inches below the knees, no trousers or panty-hose may be worn by women and girls 3 years of age or older.
7. Married women's hair must be completely covered in public, by a scarf or by a wig.
8. It is forbidden for unrelated men and women to walk together in the street.
9. Men and women must be separated by a wall (at least 7 feet high), when attending any gathering of a social or religious nature.
10. All food consumed in the buildings of the community must conform to the dietary laws of the Code of Laws and be approved by the chief Rabbi or his second in command.
11. No car may be driven by an unmarried man.
12. The members must submit any interpersonal conflict to the arbitration of a rabbinical court.
13. The Sabbath must be observed in strict conformity to Jewish law.
14. Male members of the community must study the Torah and other religious texts for at least two hours a day.

Teachers of secular subjects who come into the community must follow guidelines of their own:

1. All textbooks and literature to be used by the students in class or at home... must first be approved by the principal.
2. No stencil or photo-copy of any other book may be used without approval.
3. Students are not permitted to go to the public library nor is the teacher permitted to bring into the school, for the students, any such books.
4. No newspaper or magazine may be read in school or hung up. Students are not permitted to read the above at home either.
5. No records or tape may be used in the classroom without approval.
6. No extra subjects, books, magazine supplement or other information which is not on the required curriculum of the school may be taught.
7. For extra credit work or for class projects, students should not be told to write away for such material. The teacher should supply them with the material with approval.
8. No discussion on boyfriends.
9. No discussions of reproduction.
10. No discussion about radio, television or movies.
11. No discussion on religion.
12. No discussion about Women's Liberation
13. No homework on Thursdays.

说好的男女平等呢？

 

[盘古]

只要不影响他人，爱怎么玩就怎么玩，3P 都不犯法，在一起念个古兰经有罪？
蒙特利尔北边有一个犹太人社区，30几年前一帮固守传统价值的犹太人建立起来的，那里的地方法规（by-law）女人不准开车，家里不准开电视收音机。也没有人为难他们。你接受 by-law 你就住进来，没人干涉你的自由。(现在他们在孩子教育问题上面临法律挑战，因为孩子没有能力做出自己的选择)

In order to protect the community from what he perceived as the moral decay of the outside community, Rebbe Lowy put together a set of by-laws "to govern the behavior of all the residents" of Kiryas Tosh.[7] To live in this community, residents need to abide by these by-laws.[7]

1. No book, newspaper, or magazine is permitted in the buildings of the community, unless their content is in conformity to strictly Orthodox Judaism.
2. All male members of the community must attend religious services, three times per day, at the synagogue.
3. No radio, television, record, or cassette is allowed in the buildings of the community.
4. No members of the community may attend the cinema or be present at any theatrical performance under the penalty of immediate expulsion.
5. All women residing in the community must dress in accordance with the Orthodox laws of modesty, as follows:
6. All dresses must be at least four inches below the knees, no trousers or panty-hose may be worn by women and girls 3 years of age or older.
7. Married women's hair must be completely covered in public, by a scarf or by a wig.
8. It is forbidden for unrelated men and women to walk together in the street.
9. Men and women must be separated by a wall (at least 7 feet high), when attending any gathering of a social or religious nature.
10. All food consumed in the buildings of the community must conform to the dietary laws of the Code of Laws and be approved by the chief Rabbi or his second in command.
11. No car may be driven by an unmarried man.
12. The members must submit any interpersonal conflict to the arbitration of a rabbinical court.
13. The Sabbath must be observed in strict conformity to Jewish law.
14. Male members of the community must study the Torah and other religious texts for at least two hours a day.

Teachers of secular subjects who come into the community must follow guidelines of their own:

1. All textbooks and literature to be used by the students in class or at home... must first be approved by the principal.
2. No stencil or photo-copy of any other book may be used without approval.
3. Students are not permitted to go to the public library nor is the teacher permitted to bring into the school, for the students, any such books.
4. No newspaper or magazine may be read in school or hung up. Students are not permitted to read the above at home either.
5. No records or tape may be used in the classroom without approval.
6. No extra subjects, books, magazine supplement or other information which is not on the required curriculum of the school may be taught.
7. For extra credit work or for class projects, students should not be told to write away for such material. The teacher should supply them with the material with approval.
8. No discussion on boyfriends.
9. No discussions of reproduction.
10. No discussion about radio, television or movies.
11. No discussion on religion.
12. No discussion about Women's Liberation
13. No homework on Thursdays.

念经没罪，但是一起搞恐怖，或者支持恐怖就有罪了