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Google准备退出中国

原文链接:https://forum.iask.ca/threads/309306/

快雪时晴 : 2010-01-12#1
google官方博客贴出来的,新浪转载,不过只敢转载一句话:google准备关闭google.cn,原文在此。

2010-01-12T15:09:39.549-08:00A new approach to ChinaLike many other well-known organizations, we face cyber attacks of varying degrees on a regular basis. In mid-December, we detected a highly sophisticated and targeted attack on our corporate infrastructure originating from China that resulted in the theft of intellectual property from Google. However, it soon became clear that what at first appeared to be solely a security incident--albeit a significant one--was something quite different.



First, this attack was not just on Google. As part of our investigation we have discovered that at least twenty other large companies from a wide range of businesses--including the Internet, finance, technology, media and chemical sectors--have been similarly targeted. We are currently in the process of notifying those companies, and we are also working with the relevant U.S. authorities.



Second, we have evidence to suggest that a primary goal of the attackers was accessing the Gmail accounts of Chinese human rights activists. Based on our investigation to date we believe their attack did not achieve that objective. Only two Gmail accounts appear to have been accessed, and that activity was limited to account information (such as the date the account was created) and subject line, rather than the content of emails themselves.



Third, as part of this investigation but independent of the attack on Google, we have discovered that the accounts of dozens of U.S.-, China- and Europe-based Gmail users who are advocates of human rights in China appear to have been routinely accessed by third parties. These accounts have not been accessed through any security breach at Google, but most likely via phishing scams or malware placed on the users' computers.



We have already used information gained from this attack to make infrastructure and architectural improvements that enhance security for Google and for our users. In terms of individual users, we would advise people to deploy reputable anti-virus and anti-spyware programs on their computers, to install patches for their operating systems and to update their web browsers. Always be cautious when clicking on links appearing in instant messages and emails, or when asked to share personal information like passwords online. You can read more here about our cyber-security recommendations. People wanting to learn more about these kinds of attacks can read this U.S. government report (PDF), Nart Villeneuve's blog and this presentation on the GhostNet spying incident.



We have taken the unusual step of sharing information about these attacks with a broad audience not just because of the security and human rights implications of what we have unearthed, but also because this information goes to the heart of a much bigger global debate about freedom of speech. In the last two decades, China's economic reform programs and its citizens' entrepreneurial flair have lifted hundreds of millions of Chinese people out of poverty. Indeed, this great nation is at the heart of much economic progress and development in the world today.



We launched Google.cn in January 2006 in the belief that the benefits of increased access to information for people in China and a more open Internet outweighed our discomfort in agreeing to censor some results. At the time we made clear that "we will carefully monitor conditions in China, including new laws and other restrictions on our services. If we determine that we are unable to achieve the objectives outlined we will not hesitate to reconsider our approach to China."



These attacks and the surveillance they have uncovered--combined with the attempts over the past year to further limit free speech on the web--have led us to conclude that we should review the feasibility of our business operations in China. We have decided we are no longer willing to continue censoring our results on Google.cn, and so over the next few weeks we will be discussing with the Chinese government the basis on which we could operate an unfiltered search engine within the law, if at all. We recognize that this may well mean having to shut down Google.cn, and potentially our offices in China.



The decision to review our business operations in China has been incredibly hard, and we know that it will have potentially far-reaching consequences. We want to make clear that this move was driven by our executives in the United States, without the knowledge or involvement of our employees in China who have worked incredibly hard to make Google.cn the success it is today. We are committed to working responsibly to resolve the very difficult issues raised.



Posted by David Drummond, SVP, Corporate Development and Chief Legal Officer

A Googlernoreply@blogger.com

朗朗听海 : 2010-01-12#2
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暂时无话可说。唉。

霜岳 : 2010-01-12#3
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杯具

cbitmap : 2010-01-12#4
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中国的贸易保护很厉害,市场远没有美国开放

Google退出也好,我看早就该退出了,忍辱负重了这么多年,能坚持到现在,不容易了

cafard : 2010-01-12#5
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有人要失业了?

smartrobby : 2010-01-12#6
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歌公司(Google Inc.)表示可能退出中国,原因是经过调查发现,它遭受了据信源自中国的重大网络攻击。此举将成为目前为止美国大公司对中国发起的最引人瞩目的责难。

谷歌表示,相信攻击者的目标是进入中国人权活动人士的Gmail账户。它说,至少20家其他公司也成了攻击目标,它正在通知这些公司并与美国有关部门合作。

谷歌一位发言人拒绝指明这20家其他公司。

谷 歌表示,未来数周将就如何在没有审查的情况下运营在华业务与中国政府谈判。长期以来,审查都是拥有在华业务的西方网络公司的一个肉中刺。谷歌首席法律顾问 大卫•多姆德(David Drummond)在博文中表示,公司已经决定不愿意继续审查中文网站Google.cn上的搜索结果。

多姆德写道,我们认识到,这很有可能意味着公司将不得不关闭Google.cn,还有我们在中国的办公室。

谷歌若撤出中国,则意味着一家西方公司极为罕见地放弃了几乎被所有大企业视为世界最重要市场之一的中国市场。它公开表示正在考虑撤出中国这件事本身,也有可能激怒中国当局。

记者未能立即联系到中国官员置评。中国政府过去曾反复为它处理互联网的措施进行辩护,并驳斥了有关中国针对外国实体发起网络攻击的指责。

谷歌在2006年推出中文搜索引擎,同时同意审查部分搜索结果,此举激起了人权团体和反对任何限制互联网行为的网络行业人士的激烈批评。

谷歌与中国政府的紧张关系很快开始,并在2009年升级。这一年,中国官员对谷歌进行谴责,称它的网站有黄色内容;几项谷歌服务在中国一度无法使用。谷歌的视频分享网站YouTube,在过去几个月也一直不能从中国境内登陆,在以前也曾经常被禁。

谷歌采取这个措施之前,它一直在跟中国官方就多项谷歌服务在中国的问题进行谈判。为安抚中国官员,去年谷歌同意删除其中国网站主页上的一些外文链接。

谷歌在美国当地时间周二表示,它采取这一行动,是因为在12月中旬侦测到一次来自中国、针对公司基础架构发起的非常高水平、有针对性的攻击。谷歌表示,这次攻击导致其知识产权被盗。它说,只有两个Gmail账户被进入。

ledjiang : 2010-01-12#7
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这下百度该高兴了

smartrobby : 2010-01-12#8
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SAN FRANCISCO (AP) -- Google Inc. will stop censoring its search results in China and may pull out of the country completely after discovering that computer hackers had tricked human-rights activists into exposing their e-mail accounts to outsiders.
The change of heart announced Tuesday heralds a major shift for the Internet's search leader, which has repeatedly said it will obey Chinese laws requiring some politically and socially sensitive issues to be blocked from search results available in other countries. The acquiescence had outraged free-speech advocates and even some shareholders, who argued Google's cooperation with China violated the company's "don't be evil" motto.


It's "an incredibly significant move," said Danny O'Brien, international outreach coordinator at the Electronic Frontier Foundation, an Internet rights group in San Francisco. "This changes the game because the question won't be 'How can we work in China?' but 'How can we create services that Chinese people can use, from outside of China?'"


"The Chinese government is one of the most efficient in terms of censoring the Web,"

annieshen : 2010-01-12#9
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静观其变...

游客 : 2010-01-12#10
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美国国务卿克林顿上周会见了Google, Microsoft Corp, Twitter and Cisco Systems Inc 的高级主管,她拟于本月21日宣布一项命名为“自由网络”的政府科技动议细节,此动议旨在帮助其他国家人民获得不受侵犯的浏览网络信息的能力。

中国不是伊拉克 : 2010-01-12#11
Google称将撤出中国大陆

转自New York Times


Google, Citing Cyber Attack, Threatens to Exit China

By ANDREW JACOBS and MIGUEL HELFT
Published: January 12, 2010



BEIJING Google, facing an assault by hackers who sought to penetrate the e-mail accounts of Chinese human rights activists, will stop cooperating with Chinese censorship and consider closing its offices and operations in China altogether, the company said on Tuesday.

If it makes good on its threat, the abrupt departure from China would be a startling end to Google’s foray into a country with more than 300 million Internet users. Since arriving here in 2006 under an arrangement with the government that purged its Chinese search results of banned topics, Google has come under fire for abetting a system that increasingly restricts what its citizens can read on the Internet.

Google said it was unclear who orchestrated the attacks on its computer systems but described them as “highly sophisticated” and said they included an assault on at least 20 other large companies in the finance, technology, media and chemical sectors.

The attackers’ primary goal of the hackers, the company said, were the Gmail accounts of human rights activists, although none of the targeted accounts were breached.

Google did not publicly link the Chinese government to the cyberattack, but people with knowledge of Google’s investigation said they had enough evidence to justify its actions.

The company said the attacks originated within China, which has long constrained the search engine’s results and presented a challenge to the company’s guiding zeitgeist, “Don’t be evil.” The company said it would try to work out an arrangement with the Chinese government to provide an uncensored Internet a tall order in a country that heavily filters the Web but that it would close its offices in China if its demands were not met.

“We have decided we are no longer willing to continue censoring our results on Google.cn, and so over the next few weeks we will be discussing with the Chinese government the basis on which we could operate an unfiltered search engine within the law, if at all,” David Drummond, a senior vice president of corporate development and chief legal officer, said in a statement.

Wenqi Gao, a spokesman for the Chinese Consulate in New York, said he did not see any problems with Google.cn. “I want to reaffirm that China is committed to protecting the legitimate rights and interests of foreign companies in our country,” he said in a phone interview.

In China, search requests that include words such as “Tiananmen Square massacre” or “Dalai Lama” come up blank. In recent months, the government has also blocked YouTube, Google’s video-sharing service.

Google’s apparent decision to play hardball with the Chinese government raises enormous risks. While Google’s business in China remains small for now, analysts say that the country could soon become one of the most lucrative Internet markets.

“The consequences of not playing the China market could be very big for any company, but particularly for an Internet company that makes its money from advertising,” said David Yoffie, a professor at Harvard Business School. Mr. Yoffie said that advertising played an even bigger role in the Internet in China than it did in the United States.

At the time of its arrival, the company said that it believed that the benefits of its presence in China outweighed the downside of being forced to censor some search results there, as it would provide more information and openness to Chinese citizens. The company, however, has repeatedly said that it will monitor restrictions in China.

Google’s announcement drew praise from free-speech and human rights advocates, many of whom had criticized the company in the past over its decision to enter the Chinese market despite censorship requirements.

“I think that with the increasing demands that were being placed on Google vis-à-vis censorship combined with these very troubling cyberattacks, Google reached a tipping point,” said Leslie Harris, president of the Center for Democracy and Technology, an advocacy group based in Washington, D.C. “It is a principled decision.”

Rebecca MacKinnon, a former CNN reporter and an expert on the Chinese Internet, said Google had endured repeated harassment in recent months and that by having operations in China it potentially put at risk the security of its users in China. “Unless they turn themselves into a Chinese company, Google could not win,” she said. “The company has clearly put its foot down and said enough is enough.”

A United States expert on cyberwarfare said 34 companies were targets of cyberattacks last week, most of them high-tech companies in Silicon Valley. The attacks came from Taiwanese Internet addresses, according to James Mulvenon, an expert on Chinese cyberwarfare capabilities. Mr. Mulvenon said the stolen documents were transmitted electronically to a server controlled by Rackspace, based in San Antonio.

In the past year, Google has been increasingly constricted by the Chinese government. Last June, after briefly blocking access nationwide to its main search engine and other services like Gmail, the government forced the company to disable a function that lets the search engine suggest terms. At the time, the government said it was simply seeking to remove pornographic material from the company’s search engine results.

At the time, some company executives suggested that the campaign was a concerted effort to stain the Google’s image. Since its entry into China, the company has steadily lost market share to Baidu, the country’s leading search engine.

Google called the attacks highly sophisticated. In the past, such electronic intrusions have either exploited the practice of “phishing” to persuade unsuspecting users to permit their computers to be compromised, or exploited vulnerabilities in software programs permitting the attacks to gain control of systems remotely. Once they have taken over a target computer, it is possible to search for specific documents.

People familiar with the investigation into the attacks said they were aimed at source code repositories at high-tech companies. Source code is the original programmer’s instructions used to develop software programs and can provide both economic advantages as well as insight into potential security vulnerabilities.

In its public statement Google pointed to a United States government report prepared by the United States-China Economic and Security Review Commission last October and an investigation by Canadian researchers that revealed a vast electronic spying operation last March.

The Canadian researchers discovered that digital documents had been stolen via the Internet from hundreds of government and private organizations around the world from computer systems based in China. At the time the researchers said they could not conclusively say that the Chinese government was involved.

The researchers, who are based at the Munk Center for International Studies at the University of Toronto, had been asked by the office of the Dalai Lama, the exiled Tibetan leader whom China regularly denounces, to examine its computers for signs of malicious software, or malware.

The researchers said that the new attacks indicated a link between targeted attacks and the censorship activities of many of the world’s governments.

Several Internet civil liberties specialists hailed Google’s stand. “I think it’s both the right move and a brilliant one,” said Jonathan Zittrain, a legal scholar at the Berkman Center for Internet & Society at Harvard University. “It helps realign Google’s business with its ethos.”

DNW : 2010-01-12#12
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这个是头条新闻啊,个个新闻网站都在报导这个事情

中国不是伊拉克 : 2010-01-12#13
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是,the globe and mail, CNN, FOX都在说这个。

生命的狂想 : 2010-01-13#14
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俺很少用google~

weour : 2010-01-13#15
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这样的话google share price会低一些了。
一直想进点google share,但价太高,这次能不能降一点?
降点的话就进一点喏。

lerouge : 2010-01-13#16
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俺很少用google~

俺一直用google

argentinarick : 2010-01-13#17
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啊哦。不是7页以上吗?怎么成酱紫了?

googlebot : 2010-01-13#18
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Google背后是 O8ma, 其实是帝国主义忘我之心不死

这个是阶级斗争

中国还是伊拉克 : 2010-01-13#19
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很好,终于显出了点骨气,以后再也不叫他“狗哥”了--虽然他以前窝囊得像条狗~

霜岳 : 2010-01-13#20
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我晕,楼上的山寨连头像都山寨了啊。仔细看看,好像广电总局灵魂附体啊。

中国还是伊拉克 : 2010-01-13#21
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我晕,楼上的山寨连头像都山寨了啊。仔细看看,好像广电总局灵魂附体啊。

这个是骑兵,马甲的那个是步兵
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