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就这样被scam了?

原文链接:https://forum.iask.ca/threads/444423/

poker007 : 2011-03-18#1
还是在核辐射的阴影下。。。:wdb14:

poker007 : 2011-03-18#2
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今天打开fido三月份的invoice, 赫然一项thirty party charge:$5.

Feb 13 - SendMe °23687 Solow 1-877-402-2387 5.00

admin : 2011-03-18#3
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a lot of here:
http://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-877-402-2387

poker007 : 2011-03-18#4
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电话fido, fido说毫无办法,必须自己打那个877的电话问原因和取消service. 俺吼:没有俺的授权/定购服务,这家公司如何会来charge俺,something wrong with your fido...

fido坚决不承认,说是只有两种情况下,会被charge, 一是手机订购了这家的 service,或者在电脑上注册定购。俺坚决否认定购一说,fido说没有办法,这类complain不少,也反映给CRTC, 但CRTC认可这些公司为合法经营。

按照单子上的877电话打过去,被告知打另一个电话:1-877-402-3687,再打,无人接听,留言,无人回复。。。

上网搜,发现有其他人也被这家公司SCAM,按网上的提示,发了短信STOP到23687,也不知取消了没有。。

poker007 : 2011-03-18#5
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转回头,上了CRTC的网站, 提交了COMPLAIN FORM。倒是要看看CRTC如何处理。。。

poker007 : 2011-03-18#6
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也找到了这个网站:
http://www.everycall.us/phone-number/1-877-402-2387/

SHAME...

poker007 : 2011-03-18#7
回复: 就这样被scam了?

楼主认栽吧
去年年底2个手机总共给拔了300刀
电话,是留言,还要收电话费哦

如何处理的呢?就这样被流氓公司挟持。。。

poker007 : 2011-03-18#8
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发现在美国有专门的律师团,集体诉讼这类公司。http://www.classactionconnect.com/?q=node/747

加拿大没有么?

qtww : 2011-03-18#9
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以前在国内的时候,移动也有过这种方式的“抢钱”,明明从来没有订购过,却每个月扣3块钱。原来骗子的抢钱方法都是一样啊。

poker007 : 2011-03-24#10
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如何处理的呢?就这样被流氓公司挟持。。。
前天(3月21日),无奈,又打1-877-402-3687,按照语音提示,取消了俺从未订购过的服务。。。

poker007 : 2011-03-24#11
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转回头,上了CRTC的网站, 提交了COMPLAIN FORM。倒是要看看CRTC如何处理。。。
收到回信:

March 22, 2011

Dear Ms. ***:

Thank you for taking the time to contact the CRTC.

The CRTC doesn't regulate text messaging. The CRTC also does not regulate the rates, quality of service or business practices of wireless service providers. Cellular telephone subscribers who have complaints about their service should contact their provider directly. It has also been suggested that you text STOP to the sender and in many cases that may take care of it. More information is available in Frequently Asked Questions: http://www.txt.ca/english/consumer/faq.html

If you are not satisfied with the response of your service provider, you may wish to contact the Commissioner for Complaints for Telecommunications Services (CCTS). The CCTS is an independent agency with a mandate to receive, to facilitate the resolution of, and, if necessary, resolve eligible consumer and small business complaints relating to certain retail telecommunications services.

You can contact the CCTS:
- online at: http://www.ccts-cprst.ca
- by mail: PO Box 81088, Ottawa, Ontario K1P 1B1
- by fax: 1-877-782-2924
- by email: response@ccts-cprst.ca
- by telephone: 1-888-221-1687 (toll free)

I am also providing you with a link to the fact sheet which explains the CRTC complaint process: http://www.crtc.gc.ca/eng/INFO_SHT/T12.htm

Consumers who believe they have been a victim of a scam or who are aware of deceptive marketing practices can contact the Competition Bureau Toll-Free at 1-800-348-5358 or through its website at: http://www.competitionbureau.gc.ca/epic/site/cb-bc.nsf/en/h_00019e.html

On December 15, 2010, the Government of Canada passed the Fighting Internet and Wireless Spam bill. The legislation is a critical element of the development of a digital economy strategy. The intent of the legislation is to deter the most damaging and deceptive forms of spam, such as identity theft, phishing and spyware, from occurring in Canada and to help to drive out spammers. With the proposed legislation's technology-neutral approach, all forms of commercial electronic messages can be treated the same way. That means that unsolicited text messages, or cellphone spam, will be addressed.

More information on Bill C-28: Canada's Online Protection Legislation is available at: http://www.ic.gc.ca/eic/site/ecic-ceac.nsf/eng/h_gv00482.html

The CRTC is now working with Industry Canada and other stakeholders toward implementation of the Government's decision.


IMPORTANT NOTE: Please do not reply to this message using the email address indicated above as we cannot receive e-mail at this address. To reply or to add to your submission, please click here and follow the prompts: http://www.crtc.gc.ca/rapidsccm/landing.asp?lang=E&caseid=527656&key=41024.4614486111


Regards,

Michelle Edge
CRTC Client Services

1-877-249-2782 toll free / sans frais
819-994-0218 facsimile / télécopieur
Canadian Radio-television and Telecommunications Commission / Ottawa, Ontario K1A 0N2
Conseil de la radiodiffusion et des télécommunications canadiennes / Ottawa, Ontario K1A 0N2
Government of Canada / Gouvernement du Canada

poker007 : 2011-03-24#12
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CRTC推个干净。。。

看过CCTS的网站,只管理成员。而sendme不是成员。

俺也没力气继续找competitionburea了。。。

技术支持 : 2011-03-24#13
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fido坚决不承认,说是只有两种情况下,会被charge, 一是手机订购了这家的 service,或者在电脑上注册定购。

那到底是怎么注册的?能不能让fido提供注册的证明?如何查到1-877-402-2387是哪家公司注册的?411.ca/.com上找不到。

poker007 : 2011-03-24#14
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那到底是怎么注册的?能不能让fido提供注册的证明?
FIDO提供不了。

这就是个scam, 生气地是,居然不受监督控制。。。

技术支持 : 2011-03-24#15
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我找到一个:http://www.complaintsboard.com/complaints/solow-and-send-me-mobile-c257835.html

SendMe and SoLow Mobile Services obtains a person's cell phone number in this manner:

They advertise a free IQ test. After taking the test they ask for your cell phone number to text the results of the IQ test. BAMMMM! They've got your phone number and immediately subscribe you to content. They ask you to text a message "STOP" to discontinue service. I ignored the messages as SPAM. A charge of $9.99 appears on my bill.

It seems that one is deceived into submitting a cell phone number to a content provide who immediately begins billing you $9.99 a month with these online "tests".

By the way, I never got my IQ test result. I can see now that I must be a total idiot.

如此说来他们确实是合法经营。我猜他们要求用户提供手机号的时候也会用很小的字标明是收费服务,只是用户一般都不看那些agreement。

poker007 : 2011-03-24#16
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那到底是怎么注册的?能不能让fido提供注册的证明?如何查到1-877-402-2387是哪家公司注册的?411.ca/.com上找不到。
fido帐单上有thirty party公司名和电话。并且文字说明,对thirty party service有异议,打thirty party电话。

看来,fido是见多这些scam了。。。

sabre : 2011-03-24#17
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By the way, I never got my IQ test result. I can see now that I must be a total idiot.
lol

天天想你 : 2011-03-24#18
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你们在说什么?????

poker007 : 2011-03-24#19
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我找到一个:http://www.complaintsboard.com/complaints/solow-and-send-me-mobile-c257835.html

SendMe and SoLow Mobile Services obtains a person's cell phone number in this manner:

They advertise a free IQ test. After taking the test they ask for your cell phone number to text the results of the IQ test. BAMMMM! They've got your phone number and immediately subscribe you to content. They ask you to text a message "STOP" to discontinue service. I ignored the messages as SPAM. A charge of $9.99 appears on my bill.

It seems that one is deceived into submitting a cell phone number to a content provide who immediately begins billing you $9.99 a month with these online "tests".

By the way, I never got my IQ test result. I can see now that I must be a total idiot.

如此说来他们确实是合法经营。我猜他们要求用户提供手机号的时候也会用很小的字标明是收费服务,只是用户一般都不看那些agreement。
这个可能只是一种手段。

俺的case, 可以说,没可能被text进去。

fido帐单上显示thrid party service发生在2月13日,周日,那天俺刚回到温哥华(在国内用移动的),这个fido手机那天就没用过。

火山 : 2011-03-24#20
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你们在说什么?????
一头雾水,好像手机乱收费。

技术支持 : 2011-03-24#21
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也就是说存在这么一种可能:sendme雇几个人,或用程序自动操作,把整个号段的电话号码输入到他们的系统中去,自动注册。回复stop的就取消服务,其余的就统统收费。不幸的是你也是其中的一个。他们确实给你发过通知短信但你忽略了,或者短信压根就没有发到你的手机上。

poker007 : 2011-03-24#22
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也就是说存在这么一种可能:sendme雇几个人,或用程序自动操作,把整个号段的电话号码输入到他们的系统中去,自动注册。回复stop的就取消服务,其余的就统统收费。不幸的是你也是其中的一个。他们确实给你发过通知短信但你忽略了,或者短信压根就没有发到你的手机上。
无许可下,还要为你服务,收费。。。如何实现的手段,搞不清楚。

被这家scam的还不少。

霜岳 : 2011-03-24#23
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也就是说存在这么一种可能:sendme雇几个人,或用程序自动操作,把整个号段的电话号码输入到他们的系统中去,自动注册。回复stop的就取消服务,其余的就统统收费。不幸的是你也是其中的一个。他们确实给你发过通知短信但你忽略了,或者短信压根就没有发到你的手机上。

这种方式不违法吗?如果是上面说的在网上填表自己没注意,还不好说。这个直接把整个号码段自动注册的,不能提起诉讼吗?

不过我看加拿大好像远远没有美国爱好打官司。也可能是这个原因骗子才如此明目张胆。

xjbell : 2011-03-24#24
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不会是骗子公司的主动行为,一定是你的某位朋友或者随便一个陌生人在网上把你的手机号输进去了,朋友的话就是有意报复,陌生人的话你就只能哀怨了。话说你连个提示短信都没收到么,愤怒鸟悲剧鸟

GarfieldCai : 2011-03-24#25
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lol

技术支持 : 2011-03-24#26
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这种方式不违法吗?如果是上面说的在网上填表自己没注意,还不好说。这个直接把整个号码段自动注册的,不能提起诉讼吗?

不过我看加拿大好像远远没有美国爱好打官司。也可能是这个原因骗子才如此明目张胆。

问题是就算他们这么做了,你也拿不到证据,除非有内部的人揭发。

fish0036 : 2011-03-24#27
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我也中招了,去打电话过,唉!

想看看POKER有啥招没有?好借鉴一下。

hao_xd : 2011-07-26#28
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这种方式不违法吗?如果是上面说的在网上填表自己没注意,还不好说。这个直接把整个号码段自动注册的,不能提起诉讼吗?

不过我看加拿大好像远远没有美国爱好打官司。也可能是这个原因骗子才如此明目张胆。
:wdb2: 可能你说对了,加拿大少有人去打官司,因为太麻烦

InVan : 2011-07-26#29
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我现在只相信是电信公司那头故意的,没什么SCAM。否则怎么会总有人被中招?又比例不大让中招的人感觉是意外。

mogaoku : 2011-07-26#30
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我找到一个:http://www.complaintsboard.com/complaints/solow-and-send-me-mobile-c257835.html

SendMe and SoLow Mobile Services obtains a person's cell phone number in this manner:

They advertise a free IQ test. After taking the test they ask for your cell phone number to text the results of the IQ test. BAMMMM! They've got your phone number and immediately subscribe you to content. They ask you to text a message "STOP" to discontinue service. I ignored the messages as SPAM. A charge of $9.99 appears on my bill.

It seems that one is deceived into submitting a cell phone number to a content provide who immediately begins billing you $9.99 a month with these online "tests".

By the way, I never got my IQ test result. I can see now that I must be a total idiot.

I can see now that I must be a total idiot!

海外老枪 : 2011-07-26#31
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我最近收到877的几个电话录音,靠,我的fido现在是国际漫游,
查了相关网站,很多老外中招,说是欠债还钱的scam,筒子们小心
加拿大洋人骗子(我确信不是中国人干的)

漫步云中@桥 : 2011-07-27#32
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实在不行换个号码呢?

帮主 : 2011-07-27#33
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我也中招了,我认为Fido是该公司的股东,他们进行分成。打电话到那家公司取消以后,收到了取消服务的短信,但是Fido继续扣费,每月5元。我的办法就是拒付Fido账单。我已经好几个月没付了,他们每天打个电话给我,我就要求讲中文。但是催费的部门没有讲中文的,耗在这了。我准备一直耗下去。坚决拒付。

fishire : 2011-07-27#34
回复: 就这样被scam了?

我也中招了,我认为Fido是该公司的股东,他们进行分成。打电话到那家公司取消以后,收到了取消服务的短信,但是Fido继续扣费,每月5元。我的办法就是拒付Fido账单。我已经好几个月没付了,他们每天打个电话给我,我就要求讲中文。但是催费的部门没有讲中文的,耗在这了。我准备一直耗下去。坚决拒付。

不一定是股东,但分成是肯定有的,一般来说,运营商要占收入的20%

钢琴超市 : 2011-07-27#35
回复: 就这样被scam了?

楼主被subscribe的那天正好不在温哥华,没有收到stop的确认短信。因此中招。

webwizard : 2011-12-24#36
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我也中招了,我认为Fido是该公司的股东,他们进行分成。打电话到那家公司取消以后,收到了取消服务的短信,但是Fido继续扣费,每月5元。我的办法就是拒付Fido账单。我已经好几个月没付了,他们每天打个电话给我,我就要求讲中文。但是催费的部门没有讲中文的,耗在这了。我准备一直耗下去。坚决拒付。
现在结果如何了?还耗着呢?

towerx : 2011-12-24#37
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这么容易抢钱!!我也想抢