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FSW Litigation: Tim Leahy – What you can do

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Milky Monkey : 2013-02-21#1
FSW Litigation: Tim Leahy – What you can do

Now, we have the Fei Zhu victory, yes, this is Lawrence’s victory …

Yes, you can have your view (Fei Zhu’s victory only applies to Fei Zhu’s case, because most of us were not rejected before June 29, 2012) … Yes, you can expect what arguments that CIC will have if we try to leverage Fei Zhu’s case … Yes, you can continue to ask the litigants to do “what they can do” …

But “what you can do”??? What we need is for “our counsel” to fight for us, to argue for us, to challenge for us, to interpret the ambiguity in favor of your clients …

None of us was expecting a guarantee from you and your (and our) arguments will always win, but we are expecting that we will not negotiate against ourselves …

Yes, your view is not always right … and yes “Of course,” we all hope that your “view is wrong.”

Yes, you have “your protocol”, but now, it’s time to move on …

If you think your suspended license is an issue, then let all of us know …

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From: Tim Leahy [mailto:tel@myforefront.com]
Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2013 9:13 PM
Subject: FSW litigation: What you can do

Good day,

Some of you have been asking what you can do to assist in the fight against the Kenney's closing your skilled worker applications. There is something that you can do -- and I am willing to assist you in that endeavour.

Sometime after March 1st, Justice Rennie will issue his decision on the legality of the closing of the files. His ruling can be expected to be appealed to the Federal Court of Appeal. So, the decision will not settle the matter. It will, however, give us an opportunity to bring the issue into the political arena. Justice Rennie's ruling will, of course, impact on the message we send but, whichever way he rules, the time will have come to try to persuade Kenney's colleagues to end the matter.

Here is the approach I would suggest: ethnic organizations approach Members of Parliament (MP's) from his political party (the Conservative Party -- called the Tories) -- and object to what is happening. If the Tory MP's believe that they will lose the ethnic vote in the next election, they might try to get involved because they only have a majority owing to the ethnic vote. (Obama's winning virtually all of the Hispanic vote was the difference between victory and defeat, as virtually all of the political commentators mentioned. So, they know that they need the ethnic vote.).

So, what can you do? First, if you have family or friends in Canada, you can ask them for names and email address of people who are involved in such groups and who involve themselves in the political process either by attending MP's fund raisers or by helping out in campaigns. If you find such people, I will be pleased to give them the information I want them to convey to the Tory MP's. (There is no point in approaching the Liberal or NDP MP's because neither Kenney nor the Prime Minister care what they think -- and they will always oppose anything the Tories are doing anyway. So, we need to concentrate on the Tory MP's.0

If you have family or friends who are will to raise you specific case with their MP but do not know who is their MP, they can go to parl.gc.ca to find their MP. All they need to do is to insert their postal code, and the MP's name and points-of-contact will be provided.

We need to wait until after the decision because it will flavour what we write. In the meantime, however, please try to find people in leadership roles in ethnic organization so that I can give them the facts I would like them to convey to Tory MP's.

Regards,

Tim

我是流氓我怕谁 : 2013-02-21#2
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写得好, 说出了我的心里话. 当我看到Tim给我们发"What you could do"的时候, 我那个窝火啊...

coolwangd : 2013-02-21#3
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都别上火,保存体力,还要和他们恶斗呢,组长可不能倒下。。。

Milky Monkey : 2013-02-21#4
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Welcome to forward to your counsel

jack_yxj : 2013-02-21#5
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请别把TIM发给我们的信都原封不动的贴在这里好吗?不管是出于什么目的

snowolf2008 : 2013-02-21#6
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FSW Litigation: Tim Leahy – What you can do

Now, we have the Fei Zhu victory, yes, this is Lawrence’s victory …

Yes, you can have your view (Fei Zhu’s victory only applies to Fei Zhu’s case, because most of us were not rejected before June 29, 2012) … Yes, you can expect what arguments that CIC will have if we try to leverage Fei Zhu’s case … Yes, you can continue to ask the litigants to do “what they can do” …

But “what you can do”??? What we need is for “our counsel” to fight for us, to argue for us, to challenge for us, to interpret the ambiguity in favor of your clients …

None of us was expecting a guarantee from you and your (and our) arguments will always win, but we are expecting that we will not negotiate against ourselves …

Yes, your view is not always right … and yes “Of course,” we all hope that your “view is wrong.”

Yes, you have “your protocol”, but now, it’s time to move on …

If you think your suspended license is an issue, then let all of us know …

________________________________________
From: Tim Leahy [mailto:tel@myforefront.com]
Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2013 9:13 PM
Subject: FSW litigation: What you can do

Good day,

Some of you have been asking what you can do to assist in the fight against the Kenney's closing your skilled worker applications. There is something that you can do -- and I am willing to assist you in that endeavour.

Sometime after March 1st, Justice Rennie will issue his decision on the legality of the closing of the files. His ruling can be expected to be appealed to the Federal Court of Appeal. So, the decision will not settle the matter. It will, however, give us an opportunity to bring the issue into the political arena. Justice Rennie's ruling will, of course, impact on the message we send but, whichever way he rules, the time will have come to try to persuade Kenney's colleagues to end the matter.

Here is the approach I would suggest: ethnic organizations approach Members of Parliament (MP's) from his political party (the Conservative Party -- called the Tories) -- and object to what is happening. If the Tory MP's believe that they will lose the ethnic vote in the next election, they might try to get involved because they only have a majority owing to the ethnic vote. (Obama's winning virtually all of the Hispanic vote was the difference between victory and defeat, as virtually all of the political commentators mentioned. So, they know that they need the ethnic vote.).

So, what can you do? First, if you have family or friends in Canada, you can ask them for names and email address of people who are involved in such groups and who involve themselves in the political process either by attending MP's fund raisers or by helping out in campaigns. If you find such people, I will be pleased to give them the information I want them to convey to the Tory MP's. (There is no point in approaching the Liberal or NDP MP's because neither Kenney nor the Prime Minister care what they think -- and they will always oppose anything the Tories are doing anyway. So, we need to concentrate on the Tory MP's.0

If you have family or friends who are will to raise you specific case with their MP but do not know who is their MP, they can go to parl.gc.ca to find their MP. All they need to do is to insert their postal code, and the MP's name and points-of-contact will be provided.

We need to wait until after the decision because it will flavour what we write. In the meantime, however, please try to find people in leadership roles in ethnic organization so that I can give them the facts I would like them to convey to Tory MP's.

Regards,

Tim


Tim's mail titled as "what you can do" sounds like to release a strong signal that he might lose confidence on this litigation and seeked for the counsels' action to move on. It is a big suprsing when reading this mail;s title at first sight.:wdb2:

Milky Monkey : 2013-02-21#7
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请别把TIM发给我们的信都原封不动的贴在这里好吗?不管是出于什么目的

What is the concern?

我是流氓我怕谁 : 2013-02-21#8
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Did he reply anything back?

雾霾和计划生育都害人 : 2013-02-21#9
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我也觉得通过选票的压力才是最有威慑力的,否则保守党手握立法、行政权力,总是可以对付或者拖延的,只是我没亲友在加拿大,希望有亲友在加拿大的同学采取行动,让亲友找保守党议员,以选票施加压力!

雾霾和计划生育都害人 : 2013-02-21#10
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我虽然转到Kurland,但明确反对大家去投诉Tim,这只会让CIC得意。到底Kurland是偏向赔偿还是Visa,不到判决我们也不知道,所以大家还是要支持和CIC抗争的律师。

Milky Monkey : 2013-02-21#11
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It's not to complain to the Law Society or anything, is to press Tim to work on his work.

我虽然转到Kurland,但明确反对大家去投诉Tim,这只会让CIC得意。到底Kurland是偏向赔偿还是Visa,不到判决我们也不知道,所以大家还是要支持和CIC抗争的律师。

我是流氓我怕谁 : 2013-02-21#12
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It's not to complain to the Law Society or anything, is to press Tim to work on his work.

Agree... that is his duty to do something for litigants as a lawyer.

chris0915 : 2013-02-21#13
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It's not to complain to the Law Society or anything, is to press Tim to work on his work.


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Oldman : 2013-02-22#14
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Tim给我的感觉一直都是"不温不火", 咱们付钱给他的, 表达想法是正确的

Les Paradis : 2013-02-23#15
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顶顶

AlexMa : 2013-02-25#16
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好久没有关注了,一是在忙别的,再就是没放在最重要的位置(去年有了宝宝),也不知如何做点什么,看到你们在坚持斗争,向你们致敬!同时,也想出份力,希望告诉我我可以做些什么吧。我的邮箱zhao.ma@hotmail.com
2007年12月递交香港,2008年6月收到FN。