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萨省省提名第二次被拒了,还有机会上诉成功嘛?

原文链接:https://forum.iask.ca/threads/713845/

hl0781 : 2014-05-25#1
大家好!

我有个朋友2008年(萨省省提名)被拒签过一次,原因是移民官员认为他工作经历作假。2011年重新申请了萨省的省提名技工类,2012年就拿到了省提名,2013年11月到香港大使馆面试。当时的面试官说会拒签但还是要征求萨省移民办公室的意见,后来萨省移民办公室打电话给提供工作岗位的雇主询问一些关于我亲戚申请的资料,再后来大使馆还要求他们去体检,但现在居然被拒签了。据了解,一般来说通知体检就表示签证会通过,为什么又被拒了呢?

不知道哪位有过这样的经验?这样的话,还有机会上诉嘛?

下面是具体的拒签原因,麻烦各位大侠帮忙看看咯。
At the interview, you demonstrated that you are unable to understand basic questions in English despite stating that you have been attending English language classes for two years from February 2010 to February 2012. You were unable to discuss your work duties as a cook in details and specifically, unable to describe the preparation of your stated speciality dishes to demonstrate your experience and knowledge as a cook. As such, you are unable demonstrate that you perform a substantial number of the main duties in the National Occupational Classification listed for the nominated occupation of chef under NOC 6242. Although your employment reference letter for stated current employment indicates that a labour contract was signed, you were unable to provide such at the interview with no credible explanation. Furthermore, you indicate on your application that you worked as a cook from December 2000 to February 2012 at XXXXXX and this work experience was found to be fraudulent on your previous application for permanent residence after two site visits were conducted. Despite granting you another opportunity to address the concerns and discrepancies found during the two sites visits, you were unable to provide any explanation. I subsequently advised you in details my concerns that you will be able to become economically established in Canada given your lack of language abilities and relevant work experience, and employability as a cook in Canada in order to fully support yourself and your family. You were given opportunities to disabuse concerns raised, but failed to provide any plausible and logical rebuts.

说明一下,我那位朋友的英语的确不怎么样,基本的沟通也不能。

walleye : 2014-05-25#2
在国内当厨师挺好的。英语不好,也许就不会,中餐的工作面也窄,过来生活也不会好到那里

枫叶在飞 : 2014-05-25#3
体检后拒签,无非两个原因,
1 体检不合格
2 材料作假被查出

hl0781 : 2014-05-26#4
体检是没有问题的,但英文能力的确是一个问题,只是都通知体检了还拒签,这个有点想不通

miumiu01 : 2014-05-26#5
拒签理由最主要的两条:
1:英语不过关
2:厨师经历做假,是通过上一次申请信息。

做假这一条,他肯定上黑名单了。个人觉得没必要上诉。

hncslx : 2014-05-26#6
一般来说拒签过一次基本以后都没机会了,你朋友能从省里到联邦已经算运气了。联邦的VO既然都说了“you demonstrated that you are unable to understand basic questions in English”这种话,那基本是不会考虑给通过的了

sk123 : 2014-05-26#7
大家好!

我有个朋友2008年(萨省省提名)被拒签过一次,原因是移民官员认为他工作经历作假。2011年重新申请了萨省的省提名技工类,2012年就拿到了省提名,2013年11月到香港大使馆面试。当时的面试官说会拒签但还是要征求萨省移民办公室的意见,后来萨省移民办公室打电话给提供工作岗位的雇主询问一些关于我亲戚申请的资料,再后来大使馆还要求他们去体检,但现在居然被拒签了。据了解,一般来说通知体检就表示签证会通过,为什么又被拒了呢?

不知道哪位有过这样的经验?这样的话,还有机会上诉嘛?

下面是具体的拒签原因,麻烦各位大侠帮忙看看咯。
At the interview, you demonstrated that you are unable to understand basic questions in English despite stating that you have been attending English language classes for two years from February 2010 to February 2012. You were unable to discuss your work duties as a cook in details and specifically, unable to describe the preparation of your stated speciality dishes to demonstrate your experience and knowledge as a cook. As such, you are unable demonstrate that you perform a substantial number of the main duties in the National Occupational Classification listed for the nominated occupation of chef under NOC 6242. Although your employment reference letter for stated current employment indicates that a labour contract was signed, you were unable to provide such at the interview with no credible explanation. Furthermore, you indicate on your application that you worked as a cook from December 2000 to February 2012 at XXXXXX and this work experience was found to be fraudulent on your previous application for permanent residence after two site visits were conducted. Despite granting you another opportunity to address the concerns and discrepancies found during the two sites visits, you were unable to provide any explanation. I subsequently advised you in details my concerns that you will be able to become economically established in Canada given your lack of language abilities and relevant work experience, and employability as a cook in Canada in order to fully support yourself and your family. You were given opportunities to disabuse concerns raised, but failed to provide any plausible and logical rebuts.

说明一下,我那位朋友的英语的确不怎么样,基本的沟通也不能。

每次问这种问题,不是用“我朋友”就是“我亲戚”,楼主竟然都上了,直接亲戚朋友啊。

主要就是说你英语不合格 (觉得你提供的学习经历造假),面试的时候关于工作细节的问题回答的驴唇不对马嘴,之前一次申请移民局sites visits的时候估计你根本不在,就说明你第一次移民提供的工作经历确实是假的,然后移民局做结论的之后你又没有反驳,所以他们就默认为你确实做假了。然后黑名单上了。然后再申请移民就是浪费钱了。
整段基调基本上就是再说You‘re a liar。估计再申请成功也不大了。

萨屯蓝天白云 : 2014-05-26#8
语言加经历造假,不知道有没有这样还能翻盘的案例

夏多温 : 2014-05-26#9
语言是借口,核心是履历造假。第二次就不该申请,浪费表情

golf560 : 2014-05-26#10
语言是借口,核心是履历造假。第二次就不该申请,浪费表情
:wdb10: 失去信用了

jim8888 : 2014-05-26#11
大家好!

我有个朋友2008年(萨省省提名)被拒签过一次,原因是移民官员认为他工作经历作假。2011年重新申请了萨省的省提名技工类,2012年就拿到了省提名,2013年11月到香港大使馆面试。当时的面试官说会拒签但还是要征求萨省移民办公室的意见,后来萨省移民办公室打电话给提供工作岗位的雇主询问一些关于我亲戚申请的资料,再后来大使馆还要求他们去体检,但现在居然被拒签了。据了解,一般来说通知体检就表示签证会通过,为什么又被拒了呢?

不知道哪位有过这样的经验?这样的话,还有机会上诉嘛?

下面是具体的拒签原因,麻烦各位大侠帮忙看看咯。
At the interview, you demonstrated that you are unable to understand basic questions in English despite stating that you have been attending English language classes for two years from February 2010 to February 2012. You were unable to discuss your work duties as a cook in details and specifically, unable to describe the preparation of your stated speciality dishes to demonstrate your experience and knowledge as a cook. As such, you are unable demonstrate that you perform a substantial number of the main duties in the National Occupational Classification listed for the nominated occupation of chef under NOC 6242. Although your employment reference letter for stated current employment indicates that a labour contract was signed, you were unable to provide such at the interview with no credible explanation. Furthermore, you indicate on your application that you worked as a cook from December 2000 to February 2012 at XXXXXX and this work experience was found to be fraudulent on your previous application for permanent residence after two site visits were conducted. Despite granting you another opportunity to address the concerns and discrepancies found during the two sites visits, you were unable to provide any explanation. I subsequently advised you in details my concerns that you will be able to become economically established in Canada given your lack of language abilities and relevant work experience, and employability as a cook in Canada in order to fully support yourself and your family. You were given opportunities to disabuse concerns raised, but failed to provide any plausible and logical rebuts.

说明一下,我那位朋友的英语的确不怎么样,基本的沟通也不能。
一会儿朋友,一会儿又是亲戚,你怎么搞的,拒签活该,这种人还是少来点

太极禅 : 2014-05-26#12
看来确实爱撒谎。假如批准你来,你千万别来,你来了就中了圈套,直接被起诉,入狱,然后驱逐出境。不信你试试

miumiu01 : 2014-05-26#13
以前以为移民局人都很懒,做事马马虎虎,但看过LZ的拒签信后突然发现移民局真不是吃素的。

hl0781 : 2014-05-27#14
这样看来,这个案子是基本上没什么希望了,不过还是谢谢大家的意见

hl0781 : 2014-05-27#15
不过我们还有一点不明白,如果要拒签了,为什么还要通知去体检?