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(英语新闻)18名加拿大人和8名中国人在非洲飞机事故中丧生

原文链接:https://forum.iask.ca/threads/868830/

lanling : 2019-03-10#1
Ethiopian Airlines says it has contacted the families of the victims of a plane crash Sunday that killed 157 people, including 18 Canadians.

The airline says it will soon conduct forensic investigations to identify the 149 passengers and eight crew who died when a Boeing 737-8 MAX went down shortly after departing from Bole Airport in Ethiopia's capital Addis Ababa en route to Nairobi, Kenya.

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In this image taken from video, rescuers search through wreckage at the scene of an Ethiopian Airlines flight that crashed shortly after takeoff at Hejere near Bishoftu, or Debre Zeit, some 50 kilometers (31 miles) south of Addis Ababa, in Ethiopia Sunday, March 10, 2019. (AP Photo/Yidnek Kirubel)

Family members of the victims involved in a plane crash react at Addis Ababa international airport Sunday, March 10, 2019. (AP Photo/Mulugeta Ayene)

Family members arrive at Bole International airport in Addis Ababa, Ethiopia, Sunday, March 10, 2019, to check on information on the Ethiopian flight that crashed. (AP Photo/Elias Masseret)
Prime Minister Justin Trudeau called the news devastating and said his thoughts are with all the victims and everyone who lost friends, family or loved ones.

Ethiopian Airlines issued a list showing 35 nationalities among the dead, including 32 Kenyans and 18 Canadians.

It was not clear what caused the plane to go down in clear weather, but the accident was strikingly similar to last year's crash of a Lion Air jet that plunged into the Java Sea, killing 189 people.

Worried families gathered at the flight's destination, the airport in Nairobi, the capital of neighbouring Kenya, and some relatives were frustrated by the lack of information about loved ones.

"Why are they taking us round and round. It is all over the news that the plane crashed," said Edwin Ong'undi, who was waiting for his sister. "All we are asking for is information to know about their fate."

The accident is likely to renew questions about the 737 Max, the newest version of Boeing's popular single-aisle airliner.

Indonesian investigators have not determined a cause for the October crash in Indonesia, but days after the accident Boeing sent a notice to airlines that faulty information from a sensor could cause the plane to automatically point the nose down. The notice reminded pilots of the procedure for handling such a situation.

The Lion Air cockpit data recorder showed that the jet's airspeed indicator had malfunctioned on its last four flights, though the airline initially said problems with the aircraft had been fixed before it left the Indonesian capital of Jakarta.

In Canada, 737 Max is used by two airlines -- WestJet and Air Canada.

WestJet said it was monitoring the situation closely and will not speculate on the cause of the incident at this time, and Air Canada said it is following closely the investigation.

"We have 13 MAX aircraft in our fleet of 121 Boeing 737s," Air Canada said in an email. "We have operated this aircraft type since 2017 and currently have 24 in our fleet. These aircraft have performed excellently from a safety, reliability and customer satisfaction perspective."

Safety experts cautioned against drawing too many comparisons between the two crashes until more is known about Sunday's disaster.

The Ethiopian Airlines CEO "stated there were no defects prior to the flight, so it is hard to see any parallels with the Lion Air crash yet," said Harro Ranter, founder of the Aviation Safety Network, which compiles information about accidents worldwide.

As sunset approached at the crash site, searchers and a bulldozer picked through the wreckage of the plane, which shattered into small pieces.

Photos from the scene showed multicoloured pieces of the jet strewn across freshly churned earth. Red Cross teams and others were searching a large area for human remains. In one photo, teams could be seen loading black plastic bags into trucks.

The airline published a photo showing its CEO standing in the wreckage.

The Ethiopian plane was new, having been delivered to the airline in November.

State-owned Ethiopian Airlines is widely considered the best-managed airline in Africa and calls itself Africa's largest carrier. It has ambitions of becoming the gateway to the continent and is known as an early buyer of new aircraft.

"Ethiopian Airlines is one of the safest airlines in the world. At this stage we cannot rule out anything," CEO Tewolde Gebremariam said.

Some of those aboard were thought to be travelling to a major United Nations environmental meeting scheduled to start Monday in Nairobi.

The plane crashed six minutes after departing, plowing into the ground at Hejere near Bishoftu, or Debre Zeit, some 50 kilometres (31 miles) south of Addis Ababa, at 8:44 a.m.

The jetliner showed unstable vertical speed after takeoff, air traffic monitor Flightradar 24 said in a Twitter post.

The Addis Ababa-Nairobi route links East Africa's two largest economic powers and is popular with tourists making their way to safaris and other destinations. Sunburned travellers and tour groups crowd the Addis Ababa airport's waiting areas, along with businessmen from China and elsewhere.

The jet's last maintenance was on Feb. 4, and it had flown just 1,200 hours. The pilot was a senior aviator, joining the airline in 2010, the CEO said.

The Boeing 737 Max 8 was one of 30 being delivered to the airline, Boeing said in a statement in July when the first was delivered.

Boeing said a technical team was ready to provide assistance at the request of the U.S. National Transportation Safety Board.

The last deadly crash of an Ethiopian Airlines passenger flight was in 2010, when a plane went down minutes after takeoff from Beirut, killing all 90 people on board.

African air travel, long troubled and chaotic, has improved in recent years, with the International Air Transport Association in November noting "two years free of any fatalities on any aircraft type."

Sunday's crash comes as Ethiopia's reformist prime minister, Abiy Ahmed, has vowed to open up the airline and other sectors to foreign investment in a major transformation of the state-centred economy.

Ethiopian Airlines' expansion has included the recent opening of a route to Moscow and the inauguration in January of a new passenger terminal in Addis Ababa to triple capacity.

Speaking at the inauguration, the prime minister challenged the airline to build a new "Airport City" terminal in Bishoftu -- where Sunday's crash occurred.

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Kenya: 32

Canada: 18


Ethiopia: 9

China: 8

Italy: 8

United States: 8

France: 7

UK: 7

Egypt: 6

Germany: 5

India: 4

Slovakia: 4

Austria: 3

Russia: 3

Sweden: 3

Spain: 2

Israel: 2

Morocco: 2

Poland: 2

Belgium: 1

Djibouti: 1

Indonesia: 1

Ireland: 1

Mozambique: 1

Norway: 1

Rwanda: 1

Saudi Arabia: 1

Sudan: 1

Somalia: 1

Serbia: 1

Togo: 1

Uganda: 1

Yemen: 1

Nepal: 1

Nigeria: 1

U.N. passport: 1

tototo : 2019-03-10#2
这个比例太不正常了,中国13亿人,加拿大才3000多万。

家园小千 : 2019-03-10#3
出事的波音737 Max8是投入不久的新机型,印尼狮航上次坠毁的也是同机型,联想到梦幻787-8刚出道时故障频繁,出门尽量避开波音737 Max8。

flashlight : 2019-03-10#4
出事的波音737 Max8是投入不久的新机型,印尼狮航上次坠毁的也是同机型,联想到梦幻787-8刚出道时故障频繁,出门尽量避开波音737 Max8。
不知道中国和加拿大有没有用这种机型。

家园小千 : 2019-03-10#5
不知道中国和加拿大有没有用这种机型。
加航已经投入到北美航线
https://www.aircanada.com/ca/en/aco/home/fly/onboard/fleet/737max.html
中国国内的航空公司也有
https://zh.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/波音737MAX

维基更新的很快,两次坠机都有介绍

proman : 2019-03-10#6
是不是碰到木乃伊觉醒了?

家园小千 : 2019-03-10#7
我一个车行销售的朋友悄悄跟我说,新车尽量不要买第一款,要买改良过的第二第三款。

大大哥 : 2019-03-10#8
叹!
人生无常。
可惜了

j0n6dj2y2w : 2019-03-10#9
这个比例太不正常了,中国13亿人,加拿大才3000多万。

这个比例能接受,加拿大人坐飞机频繁,中国人坐高铁频繁。

j0n6dj2y2w : 2019-03-10#10
我一个车行销售的朋友悄悄跟我说,新车尽量不要买第一款,要买改良过的第二第三款。

我的几部车都是used,三年新的,物美价廉。

九溪 : 2019-03-10#11
不知道中国和加拿大有没有用这种机型。

中国的已经要求全部停飞了。

周雅 : 2019-03-10#12
听到新闻说了,真的是不幸,活着已经不易,要我就不去松鸡山,就为了争一口气?

流动红旗 : 2019-03-10#13
听到新闻说了,真的是不幸,活着已经不易,要我就不去松鸡山,就为了争一口气?

卡西北 : 2019-03-10#14
听到新闻说了,真的是不幸,活着已经不易,要我就不去松鸡山,就为了争一口气?
哪里飞松鸡山的航班出事了?

windcm : 2019-03-10#15
中国的已经要求全部停飞了。
真的吗?波音公司应该立刻叫停这个机型了

feitianwukong : 2019-03-10#16
美帝的这个飞机不行。比不上加拿大制造的飞机。
可是加拿大的飞机却被美帝干掉了。

安逸 : 2019-03-10#17
不知道中国和加拿大有没有用这种机型。
网上查询说中国进口了这种机型60架,国航,南航(还有什么航空公司不记得了)都有这种机型

安逸 : 2019-03-10#18
目前,包括国航、东航、海航在内的多家中国航空公司在运营波音737-800MAX型飞机,主要执飞国内及短途国际航班。航空专家表示,目前还没有确切证据证实两起空难与特定机型有关联,公众不避刻意避开某型号飞机,一旦有确切可信资料,各国民航当局一定会采取必要的措施保证飞航安全。——刚摘录的,但之前的好像有南航。大家出行自己选择查看一下

waren : 2019-03-10#19
公信号有阴谋论的说法

南望王师 : 2019-03-11#20
出事的波音737 Max8是投入不久的新机型,印尼狮航上次坠毁的也是同机型,联想到梦幻787-8刚出道时故障频繁,出门尽量避开波音737 Max8。

都是小国的航空公司,更可能是飞行员素质不行导致的事故,大家不要听信谣言,要相信美国的飞机,相信FAA,相信人类的希望就是美利坚

南望王师 : 2019-03-11#21
美帝的这个飞机不行。比不上加拿大制造的飞机。
可是加拿大的飞机却被美帝干掉了。

明明是小国的飞行员的问题嘛,美利坚的飞机虽然是现在最安全最先进的飞机,可也架不住这些小国的飞行员烂技术和低智商乱搞啊,自己摔了飞机现在想赖上美国逃避责任!

南望王师 : 2019-03-11#22
坐等反转,说不定又是一个像马航机长那样的精神病人开飞机自杀拉人陪葬了

忠告各位出行慎选航空公司,首选美国公司的航班,美国人开美国的飞机,那个安全性妥妥的,一个安心啊

Yeyelingfeng : 2019-03-11#23
想想可怕

家园小千 : 2019-03-11#24
公信号有阴谋论的说法
阴谋论说法本身就是阴谋

家园小千 : 2019-03-11#25
报道说中国和印尼已经全部停止同机型的飞行

肖臻 : 2019-03-11#26
出门记得买个航空意外险,20万的保额 ,15块左右,

常年出境加拿大的,可以买一个年用的,无限次数的飞行意外险,还有境外医疗保障,129/年

从1950年开始,年年都掉飞机,少至几架多至几十架 商业飞机事故大全

而且感觉平均增加比较多,科技在前进?飞行员技术在倒退?

墨雪 : 2019-03-11#27
感觉加人好像对世界上发生什么都不太关心,死了这么多同胞,我周围的同事今天没有一个人提到这件事

卡西北 : 2019-03-11#28
本来没什么好说的,不管死谁都不好,并不因为死了同胞就改变一点。不过想起读过的关于前一次737–8 max事故报告,事故原因是驾驶舱资源管理问题。那一次是事故也是在起飞阶段,可能攻角传感器检测到飞机抬头太高,为了防止失速,飞机自动驾驶仪开始trim水平尾翼使飞机低头。按照设计,自动驾驶仪只是让机头稍低一点,等空速起来了就会把平尾调回正常起飞位置。飞行员不知道这个逻辑,开始拉杆。自动驾驶一看机头又抬起来了,赶紧再trim,这么一折腾,飞机坠毁了。其实当时飞行员如果随飞机自己调整,或者索性断开自动驾驶仪的垂直控制,就不会坠机。不知道这次是不是同样的问题。

卡西北 : 2019-03-11#29
本来没什么好说的,不管死谁都不好,并不因为死了同胞就改变一点。不过想起读过的关于前一次737–8 max事故报告,事故原因是驾驶舱资源管理问题。那一次是事故也是在起飞阶段,可能攻角传感器检测到飞机抬头太高,为了防止失速,飞机自动驾驶仪开始trim水平尾翼使飞机低头。按照设计,自动驾驶仪只是让机头稍低一点,等空速起来了就会把平尾调回正常起飞位置。飞行员不知道这个逻辑,开始拉杆。自动驾驶一看机头又抬起来了,赶紧再trim,这么一折腾,飞机坠毁了。其实当时飞行员如果随飞机自己调整,或者索性断开自动驾驶仪的垂直控制,就不会坠机。不知道这次是不是同样的问题。
在飞机和飞行员的较量中,飞机调整的是整个水平尾翼,影响大。飞行员调整的只是水平尾翼上的升降舵,力气小。相当于每次飞行员出2,飞机就出王炸。飞行员肯定输。