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（ZT)这里还要补充一点。
圣经有多个版本，中文圣经翻译自拉丁文本，而英文圣经多译自希腊文本。即便拉丁文本和希腊文本的圣经也不是原著，原著多书写在紫砂纸(papyrus)或羊皮纸上，多数是用亚述语，少数希伯来语，还有一些埃及古文字。
这众多版本的圣经都不一致，没有那两个是相同的。所以，相信那个，纯粹是个人爱好。
中国的文革运动与旧约的相似之处就在于，两者都是非常排他的。掌握对革命的解释权就掌握所有人的命运，并且你不信我的就是死。也就是说，那个理想中的“神”是非常嫉妒的，对神话语的解释权决定一切。
这让我想起，在中古西方，只有少数人是可以拥有并阅读圣经的。而在中国60年代，毛主席语录的出版绝对是绝对的权威。
（ZT)这里还要补充一点。
圣经有多个版本，中文圣经翻译自拉丁文本，而英文圣经多译自希腊文本。即便拉丁文本和希腊文本的圣经也不是原著，原著多书写在紫砂纸(papyrus)或羊皮纸上，多数是用亚述语，少数希伯来语，还有一些埃及古文字。
这众多版本的圣经都不一致，没有那两个是相同的。所以，相信那个，纯粹是个人爱好。
中国的文革运动与旧约的相似之处就在于，两者都是非常排他的。掌握对革命的解释权就掌握所有人的命运，并且你不信我的就是死。也就是说，那个理想中的“神”是非常嫉妒的，对神话语的解释权决定一切。
这让我想起，在中古西方，只有少数人是可以拥有并阅读圣经的。而在中国60年代，毛主席语录的出版绝对是绝对的权威。
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作者: 藕花深处
可惜头生子是丫鬟小老婆生的，种不行
这又是一个歧视问题。
夏甲生子是按照神的吩咐行的。因为神说萨拉不能生子。
萨拉在古稀之年才生子，神为什么要应允呢？如果神足够聪明，完全可以避免当时及现在的这许多麻烦 --- 没有夏甲生子这一出不就都结了吗？
萨拉是在与夏甲的争斗失败以后才被迫生的以撒（后来的以色列），当时她已经70多岁了。中国古代，不能生子的后妃们也会想千方百计生他一个半个的，不管是谁的种或是干脆抢来的。
所以，萨拉是被迫生子，不能说是按照神的意愿行的。这就是伊斯兰始终挑战犹太教和基督教的初始动因。(转贴）
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引用:
作者: 藕花深处
可惜头生子是丫鬟小老婆生的，种不行
这又是一个歧视问题。
夏甲生子是按照神的吩咐行的。因为神说萨拉不能生子。
萨拉在古稀之年才生子，神为什么要应允呢？如果神足够聪明，完全可以避免当时及现在的这许多麻烦 --- 没有夏甲生子这一出不就都结了吗？
萨拉是在与夏甲的争斗失败以后才被迫生的以撒（后来的以色列），当时她已经70多岁了。中国古代，不能生子的后妃们也会想千方百计生他一个半个的，不管是谁的种或是干脆抢来的。
所以，萨拉是被迫生子，不能说是按照神的意愿行的。这就是伊斯兰始终挑战犹太教和基督教的初始动因。(转贴）
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“对人类来说，圣经的存在，是全人类所经验到的最大好处”——康德
培根：“ 只有初习哲学的人，才趋向无神论，造诣稍深者，便能体会真理。浅学之士只能看到万事的次因，以致不能深入。必深思博学的人，始能探本穷源，澈悟主宰万有的真神。从世界历史来看，任何宗教，任何法治，都不能和基督圣道相提并论等量齐观。因为只有圣经，才能使国家社会蒙受最大的福祉。”。
康德：“对人类来说，圣经的存在，是全人类所经验到的最大好处，凡想减少它价值的，不啻是对人类一种犯罪行为。”
司各脱：“在这本令人敬畏的圣经里，蕴藏着奥秘中的奥秘。”
陆克：“圣经是一部永生之道的书，是一部使人得救，只有真理，绝无错误，又是上帝亲自著作的书。”
卢梭：“我必须承认，圣经的辉煌使我惊讶。”
鲁索：“圣经的庄严，令人崇敬，福音之纯洁，使余心折，读了圣经，则一切哲学的著作，便成为卑无高论，不堪比拟。”
苏格拉底：“有一位至高神的存在；至高的神统治万有；神要差遣一位导师，拨开云雾，开通心窍，。。。”
“对人类来说，圣经的存在，是全人类所经验到的最大好处”——康德
培根：“ 只有初习哲学的人，才趋向无神论，造诣稍深者，便能体会真理。浅学之士只能看到万事的次因，以致不能深入。必深思博学的人，始能探本穷源，澈悟主宰万有的真神。从世界历史来看，任何宗教，任何法治，都不能和基督圣道相提并论等量齐观。因为只有圣经，才能使国家社会蒙受最大的福祉。”。
康德：“对人类来说，圣经的存在，是全人类所经验到的最大好处，凡想减少它价值的，不啻是对人类一种犯罪行为。”
司各脱：“在这本令人敬畏的圣经里，蕴藏着奥秘中的奥秘。”
陆克：“圣经是一部永生之道的书，是一部使人得救，只有真理，绝无错误，又是上帝亲自著作的书。”
卢梭：“我必须承认，圣经的辉煌使我惊讶。”
鲁索：“圣经的庄严，令人崇敬，福音之纯洁，使余心折，读了圣经，则一切哲学的著作，便成为卑无高论，不堪比拟。”
苏格拉底：“有一位至高神的存在；至高的神统治万有；神要差遣一位导师，拨开云雾，开通心窍，。。。”
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康德：“对人类来说，圣经的存在，是全人类所经验到的最大好处，凡想减少它价值的，不啻是对人类一种犯罪行为。”
请养猪看看下面:
康德：“对人类来说，圣经的存在，是全人类所经验到的最大好处，凡想减少它价值的，不啻是对人类一种犯罪行为。”
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Christianity around the World
With 2.18 billion adherents, Christianity has become a truly global religion over the past century as rapid growth in developing nations offset declines in Christianity's traditional strongholds, according to a report released Monday.
Billed as the most comprehensive and reliable study to date, the Pew Research Center's "Global Christianity" reports on self-identified Christian populations based on more than 2,400 sources of information, especially census and survey data.
Findings illustrate major shifts since 1910, when two-thirds of the world's Christians lived in Europe. Now only one in four Christians live in Europe. Most of the rest are distributed across the Americas (37 %), sub-Saharan Africa (24 %) and the Asia-Pacific region (13 %).
"In two out of three countries in the world, the majority of the population identifies as Christian," said Conrad Hackett, lead researcher on the "Global Christianity" report. "I had no idea about that. … I was surprised."
The report confirms Christianity's standing as the world's largest religion, with 32% of the global population. Islam is second with about 23%, according to a 2009 Pew report.
A close look at the details reveals a few ironies:
• Although Christianity traces its beginnings to the Middle East and North Africa, only 4% of residents in these regions claim the Christian faith today.
• Meanwhile, the faith has grown exponentially in sub-Saharan Africa, from just 9% of the population in 1910 to 63% today. Nigeria, home to more than 80 million Christians, has more Protestants than Germany, where the Protestant Reformation began.
"As a result of historic missionary activity and indigenous Christian movements by Africans, there has been this change from about one in 10 (sub-Saharan Africans) identifying with Christianity in 1910 to about six in 10 doing so today," Hackett said.
For its part, Europe is more religiously diverse than it was in 1910, when 94% was Christian. Still, Europe hasn't abandoned its Christian heritage, according to the report. Today, 76% of Europeans self-identify as Christian.
"Many people may have the impression that a smaller percentage of Europe claims to be Christian" than is actually the case, Hackett said.
The report also sheds light on the difficult question of how many Chinese are Christians. Researchers have struggled to get reliable numbers since China's policies on religion are thought to discourage Christians from self-identifying as such in official surveys.
Adjusting for such variables, Pew researchers believe Christianity has flourished despite a policy forbidding Christianity among Communist Party members. Researchers estimate the Christian community in China includes 5% of the population, or 67 million.
http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/news.../christianity-growth-africa-europe/52125920/1
Christianity around the World
With 2.18 billion adherents, Christianity has become a truly global religion over the past century as rapid growth in developing nations offset declines in Christianity's traditional strongholds, according to a report released Monday.
Billed as the most comprehensive and reliable study to date, the Pew Research Center's "Global Christianity" reports on self-identified Christian populations based on more than 2,400 sources of information, especially census and survey data.
Findings illustrate major shifts since 1910, when two-thirds of the world's Christians lived in Europe. Now only one in four Christians live in Europe. Most of the rest are distributed across the Americas (37 %), sub-Saharan Africa (24 %) and the Asia-Pacific region (13 %).
"In two out of three countries in the world, the majority of the population identifies as Christian," said Conrad Hackett, lead researcher on the "Global Christianity" report. "I had no idea about that. … I was surprised."
The report confirms Christianity's standing as the world's largest religion, with 32% of the global population. Islam is second with about 23%, according to a 2009 Pew report.
A close look at the details reveals a few ironies:
• Although Christianity traces its beginnings to the Middle East and North Africa, only 4% of residents in these regions claim the Christian faith today.
• Meanwhile, the faith has grown exponentially in sub-Saharan Africa, from just 9% of the population in 1910 to 63% today. Nigeria, home to more than 80 million Christians, has more Protestants than Germany, where the Protestant Reformation began.
"As a result of historic missionary activity and indigenous Christian movements by Africans, there has been this change from about one in 10 (sub-Saharan Africans) identifying with Christianity in 1910 to about six in 10 doing so today," Hackett said.
For its part, Europe is more religiously diverse than it was in 1910, when 94% was Christian. Still, Europe hasn't abandoned its Christian heritage, according to the report. Today, 76% of Europeans self-identify as Christian.
"Many people may have the impression that a smaller percentage of Europe claims to be Christian" than is actually the case, Hackett said.
The report also sheds light on the difficult question of how many Chinese are Christians. Researchers have struggled to get reliable numbers since China's policies on religion are thought to discourage Christians from self-identifying as such in official surveys.
Adjusting for such variables, Pew researchers believe Christianity has flourished despite a policy forbidding Christianity among Communist Party members. Researchers estimate the Christian community in China includes 5% of the population, or 67 million.
http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/news.../christianity-growth-africa-europe/52125920/1
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Open Doors: Growth of Christianity in Iran 'Explosive'
Read more at http://www.christianpost.com/news/o...-in-iran-explosive-71946/#vj4mfSf3wxHwgClo.99
An estimated 200 Muslim Background Believers (MBBs) were living in Iran 40 years ago, according to Open Doors. Now, the number of MBBs is estimated to be 370,000.
Iran also has the presence of the traditional Armenian and Assyrian church with about 80,000 members, Open Doors reports. These churches are presently free to have meetings in the language of its members, but they are not allowed to reach out to the Farsi-speaking Muslims.
According to the Iranian government, there are about 200,000 Christians living in Iran, Open Doors stated.
Christianity: The fastest growing religion in Iran! - YouTube
Open Doors: Growth of Christianity in Iran 'Explosive'
Read more at http://www.christianpost.com/news/o...-in-iran-explosive-71946/#vj4mfSf3wxHwgClo.99
An estimated 200 Muslim Background Believers (MBBs) were living in Iran 40 years ago, according to Open Doors. Now, the number of MBBs is estimated to be 370,000.
Iran also has the presence of the traditional Armenian and Assyrian church with about 80,000 members, Open Doors reports. These churches are presently free to have meetings in the language of its members, but they are not allowed to reach out to the Farsi-speaking Muslims.
According to the Iranian government, there are about 200,000 Christians living in Iran, Open Doors stated.
Christianity: The fastest growing religion in Iran! - YouTube
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BBC: Will South Korea become Christian?
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/8322072.stm
This article deals with a unique problem with Christianity in South Korea:
In South Korea, Christians’ sense of being the “chosen people” breeds intolerance
http://www.freefaith.com/2012/10/01...f-being-the-chosen-people-breeds-intolerance/
I was part of a group of young teachers sent out to South Korea to work at a Church-run English camp for young children in Dangjin. Teaching English formed part of a broader project aimed at immersing the children of the Christian community in the ways of the West, fundamentally associated with Christian virtue. From the perspective of the Christians in Dangjin a western education comes with a religious responsibility. Those who run the project claim that the vast increase in the Christian population from 2% of the total in 1945 to around 50% today has meant that South Korea has a unique and intimate relationship with God and thrives as a result. This short meta-narrative that dismisses the significance of South Korea’s previous pagan history is the basis for much optimism about the future.
BBC: Will South Korea become Christian?
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/8322072.stm
This article deals with a unique problem with Christianity in South Korea:
In South Korea, Christians’ sense of being the “chosen people” breeds intolerance
http://www.freefaith.com/2012/10/01...f-being-the-chosen-people-breeds-intolerance/
I was part of a group of young teachers sent out to South Korea to work at a Church-run English camp for young children in Dangjin. Teaching English formed part of a broader project aimed at immersing the children of the Christian community in the ways of the West, fundamentally associated with Christian virtue. From the perspective of the Christians in Dangjin a western education comes with a religious responsibility. Those who run the project claim that the vast increase in the Christian population from 2% of the total in 1945 to around 50% today has meant that South Korea has a unique and intimate relationship with God and thrives as a result. This short meta-narrative that dismisses the significance of South Korea’s previous pagan history is the basis for much optimism about the future.
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“你们要称谢耶和华，因他本为善，他的慈爱永远长存。” ——诗１３６：１
这篇诗篇的作者可够幽默的，他一句一个上帝的“慈爱永远长存”，却列数 耶和华的杀人业绩：“击杀埃及人之长子”、“把法老和他的军兵推翻在红海里 ”、“击杀大君王”、“杀戮有名的君王”、“杀戮亚摩利亚王西宏”、“杀巴 珊王噩”等等。其实这一切，不过是杀人如麻的耶和华的战绩中的极少的一部分 罢了。我读《圣经》，每每读得毛骨悚然，这位被基督徒视为爱的化身的耶和华。
“你们要称谢耶和华，因他本为善，他的慈爱永远长存。” ——诗１３６：１
这篇诗篇的作者可够幽默的，他一句一个上帝的“慈爱永远长存”，却列数 耶和华的杀人业绩：“击杀埃及人之长子”、“把法老和他的军兵推翻在红海里 ”、“击杀大君王”、“杀戮有名的君王”、“杀戮亚摩利亚王西宏”、“杀巴 珊王噩”等等。其实这一切，不过是杀人如麻的耶和华的战绩中的极少的一部分 罢了。我读《圣经》，每每读得毛骨悚然，这位被基督徒视为爱的化身的耶和华。
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