基督真理，改变人心，改造人类

[科学养猪]

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都是罪人，基督徒是蒙恩的罪人。

要么你是罪人，我在佛祖眼里，是大善人。

 

[richard cz]

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那是不是更没戏了就

在神凡事都能。

 

[北京范德彪]

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德哥啊上下文能不能都尽量帖全了

 

[科学养猪]

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都是罪人，基督徒是蒙恩的罪人。

你说人为什么要在意你家一根柱子对你的评价呢？ 你家狗对你说你是罪人，你就是了？ 要不要动动脑子呢？

 

[Chris88]

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1. The very intelligent Dawkins could be very entertaining;
2. He was intelligent enough to admit Christianity is responsible for lots of good things, including SCIENCE (Starts at the 5th minute);
3. Darwin: "... I have to be ranked as a theist (starts at the 29th minute)."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tD1QHO_AVZA

 

[richard cz]

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你说人为什么要在意你家一根柱子对你的评价呢？ 你家狗对你说你是罪人，你就是了？ 要不要动动脑子呢？

这就是典型的对牛弹琴，得到的回复。

 

[科学养猪]

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这就是典型的对牛弹琴，得到的回复。

详细说说。 你说有个东西说你是罪人，你就认了。 我说人要动脑筋，不应该什么罪都认。 哪里说错了？ 请教下。

 

[科学养猪]

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1. The very intelligent Dawkins could be very entertaining;
2. He was intelligent enough to admit Christianity is responsible for lots of good things, including SCIENCE;
3. Darwin: "... I have to be ranked as a theist (the 29th to 30th minutes)."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tD1QHO_AVZA

你的这3点，且不说内容是否有争议，就算100% 正确，充其量只是羞辱了一个名字叫 dawkins 的人。 so what?

entertaining, intelligent 你是不是很得意你在这2点上作的比这个dawkins 好啊？ 就算你比他聪明， so what?

 

[richard cz]

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详细说说。 你说有个东西说你是罪人，你就认了。 我说人要动脑筋，不应该什么罪都认。 哪里说错了？ 请教下。

原罪就是人背弃了主，身上具有不讨神喜悦的东西。如小孩子天生没人教都懂得自私，这也是原罪。所以说人都有不讨神喜悦的东西，都是有原罪的。

 

[Henry1976]

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1. The very intelligent Dawkins could be very entertaining;
2. He was intelligent enough to admit Christianity is responsible for lots of good things, including SCIENCE (Starts at the 5th minute);
3. Darwin: "... I have to be ranked as a theist (starts at the 29th minute)."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tD1QHO_AVZA

神棍又来卖弄英语,你要真懂英语,好好读读达尔文的原话. 在自传里，达尔文谈及他是怎么通过研究物种起源从一个有神论者变成了疑神论者

以下是达尔文自传
http://darwin-online.org.uk/content/frameset?itemID=F1497&viewtype=text&pageseq=1

以下是被主教引用的达尔文自传第92到94页

Another source of conviction in the existence of God, connected with the reason and not with the feelings, impresses me as having much more weight. This follows from the extreme difficulty or rather impossibility of conceiving this immense and wonderful universe, including man with his capacity of looking far backwards and far into futurity, as the result of blind chance or necessity. When thus reflecting I feel compelled to look to a First Cause having an intelligent mind in some
[page] 93 THE AUTOBIOGRAPHY
degree analogous to that of man; and I deserve to be called a Theist.
This conclusion1 was strong in my mind about the time, as far as I can remember, when I wrote the Origin of Species; and it is since that time that it has very gradually with many fluctuations become weaker. But then arises the doubt—can the mind of man, which has, as I fully believe, been developed from a mind as low as that possessed by the lowest animal, be trusted when it draws such grand conclusions? May not these be the result of the connection between cause and effect which strikes us as a necessary one, but probably depends merely on inherited experience? Nor must we overlook the probability of the constant inculcation in a belief in God on the minds of children producing so strong and perhaps an inherited effect on their brains not yet fully developed, that it would be as difficult for them to throw off their belief in God, as for a monkey to throw off its instinctive fear and hatred of a snake.

[page] 94 THE AUTOBIOGRAPHY OF CHARLES DARWIN
I cannot pretend to throw the least light on such abstruse problems. The mystery of the beginning of all things is insoluble by us; and I for one must be content to remain an Agnostic.

辩论双方，Dawkins 谨遵科学事实，知之为知之，不知为不知，而主教知道没人能带着达尔文自传来戳破他的谎言就信口雌黄，误导听众。这种人假话说多了已经到了毫不脸红的地步，他要是还能上天堂那这上帝还不如撒旦。

 

[richard cz]

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希望养猪以后不要再提劝人为善，我已懒得再说靠人无法为善。

 

[Chris88]

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神棍又来卖弄英语,你要真懂英语,好好读读达尔文的原话. 在自传里，达尔文谈及他是怎么通过研究物种起源从一个有神论者变成了疑神论者

以下是达尔文自传
http://darwin-online.org.uk/content/frameset?itemID=F1497&viewtype=text&pageseq=1

以下是被主教引用的达尔文自传第92到94页

Thanks for presenting the information. Very telling of Darwin's honest confusion and his awareness of "our" limitation. Furthermore, it also shows that the cardinal's information was absolutely accurate!

 

[北京范德彪]

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顶正反双反进入外语辩论时段贴

 

[Chris88]

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辩论双方，Dawkins 谨遵科学事实，知之为知之，不知为不知，而主教知道没人能带着达尔文自传来戳破他的谎言就信口雌黄，误导听众。这种人假话说多了已经到了毫不脸红的地步，他要是还能上天堂那这上帝还不如撒旦。

As for "scientist" Dawkins' character, the following video is even more revealing:

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RTV-py1W8Rk[/ame]

 

[Chris88]

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神棍又来卖弄英语,你要真懂英语,好好读读达尔文的原话. 在自传里，达尔文谈及他是怎么通过研究物种起源从一个有神论者变成了疑神论者

以下是达尔文自传
http://darwin-online.org.uk/content/frameset?itemID=F1497&viewtype=text&pageseq=1

以下是被主教引用的达尔文自传第92到94页

你这是欺负网友不懂英文还是假设別人不懂中文？

 

[Chris88]

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My favorite videos of Dawkins the intellligent:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J0UIbd0eLxw

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x-OBokk5TbU

 

[Chris88]

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Then, it comes Scientist Dawkins the enlightened-finally:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E7SnTzNHUJ8

 

[Chris88]

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Then, it comes Scientist Dawkins the enlightened-finally:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E7SnTzNHUJ8

He apparently had learned lots of precious lessons before reaching his enlightenment: his intelligence probably won't serve him much good. Good for him!

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J1ldYmg0lpE[/ame]

 

[Chris88]

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And here come the unforgiving comrades (from 3:37):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RC1xgS1XGSg

 

[Chris88]

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Richard Dawkins and Alister McGrath Pt. 1 of 15

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wxc0NpTZE18