新移民头两年报税都没有报海外资产,现在想卖国内自住房汇款过来怎么办?

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马上要报税截止了,想问一下一个很重要的问题。我有个新加坡房产,一直空着自用。所以是不是本来不用申报,可是我报2016 年税的时候填了yes,后来也没有填T135表格。我今年就写N哦。可是报税软件就指出这个错误了,我是新移民。
 
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在加拿大所得税法意义上,你是这个房子的注册所有人,而妈妈是受益所有人,为这个房子所产生的所得承担纳税义务的不是你,而是妈妈。

至于妈妈是否要为出售这个房子所实现的资本增值向加拿大纳税,则还要弄清楚几个问题:

1. 妈妈虽然拥有加拿大永久居民身份,但是在税务意义上,她是否加拿大居民?

如果这个问题的答案是“否”,则结论是她不用为出售这个房子所获资本增值向加拿大纳税,而且出售以后所获现金在向子女分配以前存在中国的银行里所获利息也不用向加拿大纳税,妈妈把钱赠予你也不用缴税,因为加拿大不征赠与税,你得到赠与以后大大方方汇来加拿大就是了。

如果答案是“是”,那么,

2. 妈妈是哪一年成为税务意义上的居民的?

3. 这个房子是哪一年买的?

4. 这个房子是自用还是出租?

(并非专业税务意见,信息仅供参考。)
请问这个说法有具体网站可以查询吗?我的情况是父母以前买的房子但是有我的名字。我很早就移民了,现在我父母把房子卖了,照这个说法,我并不是受益人只是注册人,我就不用交税是吗?
 

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请问这个说法有具体网站可以查询吗?我的情况是父母以前买的房子但是有我的名字。我很早就移民了,现在我父母把房子卖了,照这个说法,我并不是受益人只是注册人,我就不用交税是吗?

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2.79 In the common law jurisdictions, two forms of property ownership are recognized – legal and beneficial. Normally legal ownership exists when title is transferred to, recorded in, registered in or otherwise carried in the name of a person. Legal owners are generally entitled to enforce their ownership rights against all other persons. The distinction between legal and beneficial ownership does not exist in civil law; ownership is a unitary concept.
2.80 In the common law jurisdictions, one person’s legal ownership of a property may be subject to another person’s beneficial ownership of that property. The term beneficial ownership is used to describe the type of ownership of a person who is entitled to the use and benefit of the property whether or not that person has concurrent legal ownership. A person who has beneficial ownership rights but not legal ownership can enforce those rights against the holder of the legal title. For example, beneficial ownership frequently arises when property is held in trust for a person in circumstances where, according to the terms of the trust, that person has authority to instruct the trustee to deal with the property as requested. (Where a personal trust, including a spousal trust, is involved, see also the rules mentioned in ¶2.65 - 2.68.)
2.81 Beneficial ownership must be distinguished, however, from the other types of physical possession of property which a person may enjoy. For example, a tenant of a property, or a person who is allowed to occupy it only because the true owner has no objection, is not the beneficial owner of the property. In determining whether a person has beneficial ownership, one should consider such factors as the right to possession, the right to collect rents, the right to call for the mortgaging of the property, the right to transfer title by sale or by will, the obligation to repair, the obligation to pay property taxes and other relevant rights and obligations. Not all of these incidents of ownership need occur concurrently before it is concluded that the person has beneficial ownership of the property, which is a question of fact in each particular case (subject to any determination under the law regarding beneficial ownership such as, for example, in the manner described in ¶2.83 - 2.87).
2.82 Since in most cases the same person has both legal and beneficial ownership, determining ownership on the basis of beneficial ownership alone is not often required. The comments below deal with some situations where a taxpayer is considered to own, and other situations where a taxpayer is considered not to own, a property for purposes of the principal residence exemption.

摘自加拿大税务局网站:

https://www.canada.ca/en/revenue-ag...folio-s1-f3-c2-principal-residence.html#p2_79

另外,税务局的税务解释网站上的这个例子可能跟你和父母的情况相似,可以参考:

https://taxinterpretations.com/cra/severed-letters/2016-0647461e5
 
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Ownership
2.79 In the common law jurisdictions, two forms of property ownership are recognized – legal and beneficial. Normally legal ownership exists when title is transferred to, recorded in, registered in or otherwise carried in the name of a person. Legal owners are generally entitled to enforce their ownership rights against all other persons. The distinction between legal and beneficial ownership does not exist in civil law; ownership is a unitary concept.
2.80 In the common law jurisdictions, one person’s legal ownership of a property may be subject to another person’s beneficial ownership of that property. The term beneficial ownership is used to describe the type of ownership of a person who is entitled to the use and benefit of the property whether or not that person has concurrent legal ownership. A person who has beneficial ownership rights but not legal ownership can enforce those rights against the holder of the legal title. For example, beneficial ownership frequently arises when property is held in trust for a person in circumstances where, according to the terms of the trust, that person has authority to instruct the trustee to deal with the property as requested. (Where a personal trust, including a spousal trust, is involved, see also the rules mentioned in ¶2.65 - 2.68.)
2.81 Beneficial ownership must be distinguished, however, from the other types of physical possession of property which a person may enjoy. For example, a tenant of a property, or a person who is allowed to occupy it only because the true owner has no objection, is not the beneficial owner of the property. In determining whether a person has beneficial ownership, one should consider such factors as the right to possession, the right to collect rents, the right to call for the mortgaging of the property, the right to transfer title by sale or by will, the obligation to repair, the obligation to pay property taxes and other relevant rights and obligations. Not all of these incidents of ownership need occur concurrently before it is concluded that the person has beneficial ownership of the property, which is a question of fact in each particular case (subject to any determination under the law regarding beneficial ownership such as, for example, in the manner described in ¶2.83 - 2.87).
2.82 Since in most cases the same person has both legal and beneficial ownership, determining ownership on the basis of beneficial ownership alone is not often required. The comments below deal with some situations where a taxpayer is considered to own, and other situations where a taxpayer is considered not to own, a property for purposes of the principal residence exemption.

摘自加拿大税务局网站:

https://www.canada.ca/en/revenue-ag...folio-s1-f3-c2-principal-residence.html#p2_79

另外,税务局的税务解释网站上的这个例子可能跟你和父母的情况相似,可以参考:

https://taxinterpretations.com/cra/severed-letters/2016-0647461e5
谢谢你的回复。那现在房子卖掉了,我需要在CRA报备吗?还是什么都不需要做?
 
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唉......这个话题又来了,年重一年,日复一日。

1. 如果“报海外资产”的意思是向加拿大政府报告你在中国拥有多少财产的话,那么忘掉这件事吧,这是个讹传。

2. 如果“报海外资产”的意思是填报T1134, T1135, T1141, T1142的话,那么这四张外国信息披露报表上没有一张上面反映你的自用资产,自己住的房子是自用资产,你没有义务向加拿大税务局报告你的任何自用资产,加拿大税务局也没有兴趣知道。

3. 如果你是税务意义上的加拿大居民,那么在你处置位于中国的自用房产后,如果你能够把拥有这个房产的所有税务年度都指定其为主居所的话,那么这个处置没有任何税务后果,也就是说买房子赚了多少钱都是免税的;如果某些税务年度这个房子没有被指定为主居所,则这些年度的资本增值的50%要在处置后计入你当年的应税收入。

4. 你从中国汇款来加拿大,这个动作没有任何税务后果,因为加拿大从来没有汇款税这么个税种,个人收入税也跟汇款毫无关系,并且,加拿大是自由世界的一部分,你把属于自己的钱汇进加拿大,这是你个人的权利,没有人有权干涉你。

不知道这么解释以后疙瘩解开没有?

这个必须回复点赞才可以。。。
 
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如果某人成为加拿大永久居民前在国内有多套自己名下的房产(在其登陆时这些房产的总成本就已经超过了25万加元),但租金都是付到其国内父母在国内的银行账户的。其父母也都不是加拿大税务居民。作为加拿大税务居民的他还需要填报T1135表并披露这些海外房产吗?
 
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唉......这个话题又来了,年重一年,日复一日。

1. 如果“报海外资产”的意思是向加拿大政府报告你在中国拥有多少财产的话,那么忘掉这件事吧,这是个讹传。

2. 如果“报海外资产”的意思是填报T1134, T1135, T1141, T1142的话,那么这四张外国信息披露报表上没有一张上面反映你的自用资产,自己住的房子是自用资产,你没有义务向加拿大税务局报告你的任何自用资产,加拿大税务局也没有兴趣知道。

3. 如果你是税务意义上的加拿大居民,那么在你处置位于中国的自用房产后,如果你能够把拥有这个房产的所有税务年度都指定其为主居所的话,那么这个处置没有任何税务后果,也就是说买房子赚了多少钱都是免税的;如果某些税务年度这个房子没有被指定为主居所,则这些年度的资本增值的50%要在处置后计入你当年的应税收入。

4. 你从中国汇款来加拿大,这个动作没有任何税务后果,因为加拿大从来没有汇款税这么个税种,个人收入税也跟汇款毫无关系,并且,加拿大是自由世界的一部分,你把属于自己的钱汇进加拿大,这是你个人的权利,没有人有权干涉你。

不知道这么解释以后疙瘩解开没有?
 
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唉......这个话题又来了,年重一年,日复一日。

1. 如果“报海外资产”的意思是向加拿大政府报告你在中国拥有多少财产的话,那么忘掉这件事吧,这是个讹传。

2. 如果“报海外资产”的意思是填报T1134, T1135, T1141, T1142的话,那么这四张外国信息披露报表上没有一张上面反映你的自用资产,自己住的房子是自用资产,你没有义务向加拿大税务局报告你的任何自用资产,加拿大税务局也没有兴趣知道。

3. 如果你是税务意义上的加拿大居民,那么在你处置位于中国的自用房产后,如果你能够把拥有这个房产的所有税务年度都指定其为主居所的话,那么这个处置没有任何税务后果,也就是说买房子赚了多少钱都是免税的;如果某些税务年度这个房子没有被指定为主居所,则这些年度的资本增值的50%要在处置后计入你当年的应税收入。

4. 你从中国汇款来加拿大,这个动作没有任何税务后果,因为加拿大从来没有汇款税这么个税种,个人收入税也跟汇款毫无关系,并且,加拿大是自由世界的一部分,你把属于自己的钱汇进加拿大,这是你个人的权利,没有人有权干涉你。

不知道这么解释以后疙瘩解开没有?
根本没有理解他的意思,只能做成赠予。他在国内卖房,能够拿到台面上的是很少的一部分,否则会交很多税。所以有3份合同之说
 
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因为自己不懂,帮我报税的会计师也不负责任。所以导致出现目前的尴尬情况。请前辈指导下该如何操作?
谢谢!
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