基督真理，改变人心，改造人类

[姑媽從來不回鄉下老家]

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还好， 有常识的人还是大多数。大温地区常去教堂的人数占全体人口的比率不超过5%。 有的数据是3%。 如果每20个人中有1个需要我们大家帮助的话，我们一定要尽力啊。

這個數據還是令人欣慰的

 

[科学养猪]

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這個數據還是令人欣慰的

教会是调剂。不错的俱乐部，社交场合。 实际上这些论坛上的基督徒心里也明白，可非要显摆一下已示身份，高调得莫名其妙。

 

[科学养猪]

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Just in terms of allocation of time resources, religion is not very efficient. There's a lot more I could be doing on a Sunday morning.

- Bill Gates

 

[科学养猪]

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"You can fool all of the people some of the time, and some of the people all of the time, but you cannot fool all of the people all of the time."

--Abraham Lincoln

 

[richard cz]

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孙悟空也是无限的。托塔李天王也是。。。。。。 算了，再说下去我也要像你一样进入入白痴状态了，你先回去冲个凉再来说话。

箴言9:10 敬畏耶和華是智慧的開端，認識至聖者便是聰明。

 

[姑媽從來不回鄉下老家]

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神让处女生子有什么不好理解。

神都能从无到有创造宇宙万物，玛利亚处女生子多少还有个玛利亚，容易太多了，这才体现神作的事。否则男女结婚生子那是人做的事，你养猪也会啊，那值得人去信吗？

得，原來是因為難以致信才信的

 

[科学养猪]

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箴言9:10 敬畏耶和華是智慧的開端，認識至聖者便是聰明。

"You can fool all of the people some of the time, and some of the people all of the time, but you cannot fool all of the people all of the time."

 

[richard cz]

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唉，文明發展到今天還會有人相信別人說的：我是唯一的真理，信我上天堂，不信下地獄。

不知傳教室會不會對自己孩子也這麼說

基督当然是唯一的真理。

如果还有其它什么真理，请告诉我有论据论证的真理，不是口头上说说的真理。

 

[richard cz]

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得，原來是因為難以致信才信的

我写了一段，你只看这一句吗？

 

[richard cz]

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"You can fool all of the people some of the time, and some of the people all of the time, but you cannot fool all of the people all of the time."

我倒是觉得这句对你合适，我知道倒打一耙也是养猪的绝活。

 

[richard cz]

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這個數據還是令人欣慰的

也可以理解为基督信仰的潜力巨大。

 

[richard cz]

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若這個感謝是自願的，當然沒問題。

用恐嚇的，這個不合適吧？

缺了開放和包容，顯示了狹隘和歧視

先謝謝你認真的討論，這點就比你們某些同行強

用恐吓？为什么这么说？
约翰福音（3-16） 　神爱世人，甚至将他的独生子赐给他们，叫一切信他的，不至灭亡，反得永生。

本贴中我和其他基督徒相比算是不谦卑的，你这么表扬我，那也说明
至少本帖中的其他基督徒那更是没得说。

 

[Chris88]

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还好， 有常识的人还是大多数。大温地区常去教堂的人数占全体人口的比率不超过5%。 有的数据是3%。 如果每20个人中有1个需要我们大家帮助的话，我们一定要尽力啊。

The majority of Canadian Christians attend church infrequently. Cross-national surveys of religiosity rates such as the Pew Global Attitudes Project indicate that, on average, Canadian Christians are less observant than those of the United States but are still more overtly religious than their counterparts in Western Europe. In 2002, 30% of Canadians reported to Pew researchers that religion was "very important" to them. A 2005 Gallup poll showed that 28% of Canadians consider religion to be "very important" (55% of Americans and 19% of Britons say the same).[30] Regional differences within Canada exist, however, with British Columbia and Quebec reporting especially low metrics of traditional religious observance, as well as a significant urban-rural divide, while Alberta and rural Ontario saw high rates of religious attendance. The rates for weekly church attendance are contested, with estimates running as low as 11% as per the latest Ipsos-Reid poll and as high as 25% as per Christianity Today magazine. This American magazine reported that three polls conducted by Focus on the Family, Time Canada and the Vanier Institute of the Family showed church attendance increasing for the first time in a generation, with weekly attendance at 25 per cent. This number is similar to the statistics reported by premier Canadian sociologist of religion, Prof. Reginald Bibby of the University of Lethbridge, who has been studying Canadian religious patterns since 1975. Although lower than in the US, which has reported weekly church attendance at about 40% since the Second World War, weekly church attendance rates are higher than those in Northern Europe.

 

[科学养猪]

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基督当然是唯一的真理。

如果还有其它什么真理，请告诉我有论据论证的真理，不是口头上说说的真理。

请解释下上下2句话中表达出的明显矛盾。 基督真理，除了口头上说说的，有任何“论据论证”吗？

 

[科学养猪]

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The majority of Canadian Christians attend church infrequently. Cross-national surveys of religiosity rates such as the Pew Global Attitudes Project indicate that, on average, Canadian Christians are less observant than those of the United States but are still more overtly religious than their counterparts in Western Europe. In 2002, 30% of Canadians reported to Pew researchers that religion was "very important" to them. A 2005 Gallup poll showed that 28% of Canadians consider religion to be "very important" (55% of Americans and 19% of Britons say the same).[30] Regional differences within Canada exist, however, with British Columbia and Quebec reporting especially low metrics of traditional religious observance, as well as a significant urban-rural divide, while Alberta and rural Ontario saw high rates of religious attendance. The rates for weekly church attendance are contested, with estimates running as low as 11% as per the latest Ipsos-Reid poll and as high as 25% as per Christianity Today magazine. This American magazine reported that three polls conducted by Focus on the Family, Time Canada and the Vanier Institute of the Family showed church attendance increasing for the first time in a generation, with weekly attendance at 25 per cent. This number is similar to the statistics reported by premier Canadian sociologist of religion, Prof. Reginald Bibby of the University of Lethbridge, who has been studying Canadian religious patterns since 1975. Although lower than in the US, which has reported weekly church attendance at about 40% since the Second World War, weekly church attendance rates are higher than those in Northern Europe.

第N次肯求CHRIS 先生不要转移话题，把前面那个问题给说明白了，我们可以继续讨论下个话题。谢谢。

 

[科学养猪]

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If religion were based on facts, it would be called science, and no one would believe it. -- Stephen Colbert

 

[科学养猪]

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"Without religion, we'd have good people doing good things, and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion."

-Stephen Weinburg

 

[Chris88]

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养猪啊，你要人云亦云，当个copycat,也找几个有分量点儿的啊？找不到？呵呵，那就只好看我的了。

我们先来看看真正为人类社会发展作出了贡献的政治人物说些什么。在看杰出的科学家、工业家、哲学家、思想家们都有什么话说。

 

[Chris88]

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先看美国国父华盛顿

 

[Chris88]

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George Washington
1st U.S. President "While we are zealously performing the duties of good citizens and soldiers, we certainly ought not to be inattentive to the higher duties of religion. To the distinguished character of Patriot, it should be our highest glory to add the more distinguished character of Christian."
--The Writings of Washington, pp. 342-343.