谈到募捐，来加拿大后发现一个很有意思的现象，就是什么人、以什么理由都可以发动募捐。就在今天下午，有两位15、6岁的女孩，什么证明也没有，就能要你募捐。以前也有外国人也是家家敲门，然后说一通，还有一个提桶的，我们也听不懂。跟他们说一句我听不懂英文，他们也就走了，但看有的邻居给了他们钱。这是募捐的还是要饭的？咋谁都可以募捐呢？就像这帖子说要大家募捐，捐到哪里去？捐款如何监管？加拿大对募捐有相关的法律条文吗？怎么觉得这方面好乱呢？
- 主题发起人 chunzhu
- 发布时间 2017-02-02
再看看评论区，欧洲人民快疯了吗？
希望支持的集体和个人甚至当权者都自己收容些个人资助些，哪怕家里收容一个也好过在这里慷慨激昂。
想想受苦受难的难民，想想他们的安全，有何不方便？感情只会喊口号号召他人帮助了？！
ZT：各国穆斯林人口比例及状态
当穆斯林人口在一个国家少于2%时，他们是爱好和平的少数民族，不对其它民族构成威胁。这样的国家为：美国 0.6%、澳大利亚 1.5%、加拿大 1.9%、意大利1.5%。
当穆斯林人口在2-5%时，他们开始争取政府授权他们在穆斯林聚居区行使伊斯兰法，从监狱和街头吸收新成员，穆斯林聚居区会发生小骚乱。这样的国家为：丹麦 2%、德国 3.7%、英国 2.7%、西班牙 4%、泰国 4.6%、神州 3%。
当穆斯林人口到5-10%时，穆斯林聚居区会发生大骚乱，他们会推动对清真食品引进，确保清真食品从业人员由穆斯林担任；对连锁超市施加压力，在货架上标注清真特性，威胁不愿遵守的人群。这样的国家为：法国 8%、菲律宾 5%、瑞典 5%、瑞士sp; 4.3%、荷兰 5.5%。
当穆斯林人口接近10-20%时，会发生全国性骚乱，穆斯林提出一系列要求，如在聚居点大造清真寺、给予超国民超法律的待遇、强制非穆斯林遵守穆斯林习俗，把“表达对伊斯兰不满”定为非法。这样的国家为：印度13.4%、以色列 16%、俄罗斯 15%。
当穆斯林人口在20-60%时，圣战武装零星屠杀异教徒，焚烧基督教堂和犹太教堂；其它民族要么因怕被杀而改信伊斯兰，要么被穆斯林杀掉；国家会经历大屠杀和持续不断的恐怖袭击。这样的国家为：埃塞俄比亚 32.8%、波斯尼亚 40%、乍得 53.1%、黎巴嫩 59.7%。
当穆斯林人口到60--80%时，就要以伊斯兰教法取代世俗法律，建立政教合一的政权，以国家名义迫害所有其它异教徒，迫害血洗基督教徒，以伊斯兰教法为武器对异教徒加税。这样的国家为：阿尔巴尼亚 70%、马来西亚 60.4%、卡塔尔77.5%、苏丹70%。
当穆斯林人口到80%--99%时，国家每天都在恐吓、暴力和圣战之中，进行种族清洗和屠杀，由国家驱逐异教徒。这样的国家为：孟加拉国83%、埃及90%、印尼 86.1%、伊朗98%、伊拉克 97%、巴基斯坦 97%、巴勒斯坦 99%、叙利亚90%、土耳其99.8%、阿联酋 96%。
当穆斯林人口为100%时，伊斯兰人民迎来了“伊斯兰和平之家”。按理说这时应该是和平的，因为大家都是穆斯林，和谐共处不再內鬥，而事实上完全不是如此，和平并没有实现，因为100%纯伊斯兰国家不同派别的穆斯林团体会相互攻击、争当国内伊斯兰教法领导者，以各种各样的理由消灭另一穆斯林派别。这样的国家为：阿富汗 100%、索马里 100%、也门100%。
当穆斯林人口在一个国家少于2%时，他们是爱好和平的少数民族，不对其它民族构成威胁。这样的国家为：美国 0.6%、澳大利亚 1.5%、加拿大 1.9%、意大利1.5%。
当穆斯林人口在2-5%时，他们开始争取政府授权他们在穆斯林聚居区行使伊斯兰法，从监狱和街头吸收新成员，穆斯林聚居区会发生小骚乱。这样的国家为：丹麦 2%、德国 3.7%、英国 2.7%、西班牙 4%、泰国 4.6%、神州 3%。
当穆斯林人口到5-10%时，穆斯林聚居区会发生大骚乱，他们会推动对清真食品引进，确保清真食品从业人员由穆斯林担任；对连锁超市施加压力，在货架上标注清真特性，威胁不愿遵守的人群。这样的国家为：法国 8%、菲律宾 5%、瑞典 5%、瑞士sp; 4.3%、荷兰 5.5%。
当穆斯林人口接近10-20%时，会发生全国性骚乱，穆斯林提出一系列要求，如在聚居点大造清真寺、给予超国民超法律的待遇、强制非穆斯林遵守穆斯林习俗，把“表达对伊斯兰不满”定为非法。这样的国家为：印度13.4%、以色列 16%、俄罗斯 15%。
当穆斯林人口在20-60%时，圣战武装零星屠杀异教徒，焚烧基督教堂和犹太教堂；其它民族要么因怕被杀而改信伊斯兰，要么被穆斯林杀掉；国家会经历大屠杀和持续不断的恐怖袭击。这样的国家为：埃塞俄比亚 32.8%、波斯尼亚 40%、乍得 53.1%、黎巴嫩 59.7%。
当穆斯林人口到60--80%时，就要以伊斯兰教法取代世俗法律，建立政教合一的政权，以国家名义迫害所有其它异教徒，迫害血洗基督教徒，以伊斯兰教法为武器对异教徒加税。这样的国家为：阿尔巴尼亚 70%、马来西亚 60.4%、卡塔尔77.5%、苏丹70%。
当穆斯林人口到80%--99%时，国家每天都在恐吓、暴力和圣战之中，进行种族清洗和屠杀，由国家驱逐异教徒。这样的国家为：孟加拉国83%、埃及90%、印尼 86.1%、伊朗98%、伊拉克 97%、巴基斯坦 97%、巴勒斯坦 99%、叙利亚90%、土耳其99.8%、阿联酋 96%。
当穆斯林人口为100%时，伊斯兰人民迎来了“伊斯兰和平之家”。按理说这时应该是和平的，因为大家都是穆斯林，和谐共处不再內鬥，而事实上完全不是如此，和平并没有实现，因为100%纯伊斯兰国家不同派别的穆斯林团体会相互攻击、争当国内伊斯兰教法领导者，以各种各样的理由消灭另一穆斯林派别。这样的国家为：阿富汗 100%、索马里 100%、也门100%。
我擦，什么逻辑，一张嘴就跟训孙子一样，我看华人没最看不起穆斯林，你倒是最看不起华人。
一个穆斯林恐怖分子杀人，你说不能搞扩大化，不要扯上整个穆斯林。
一个白人恐怖分子杀人，你倒能扯出这个社会就是白人至上，至上的白人不定哪天要来杀我们。。
非议穆斯林的，是宣扬种族仇恨，你口口声声哪天白人砍光我们，就不是宣扬白色恐怖。。。
我反对大量接受中东难民，对难民，加拿大参与在中东搞禁飞区也好，设难民营也好，迪拜填岛也好，沙特建城堡也好，帮人，不一定非要拉家里来。
但对于已经在加拿大的人，不论穆斯林，基督徒，还是中国人，我觉得都应该是平等的，大家都是爹生娘养的，没谁 deserve去死。不管什么人，都有好人，有坏人，这和种族没关。我觉得加拿大该淡化种族概念，那些爱拿种族来说事，硬是把人分成不同的block, 整天盘算着什么近交远攻，合纵连横，挑拨种族之间的关系，才是真正的种族分子。
我觉得我们现在就是在担心多元文化迟早不保，以他们高生育率，要求实行SHARIA法并非天方夜潭啊，YOUTUBE上看看被他们TAKE OVER了的伦敦某郊区。英国人都不敢在那里喝酒了。
以为魁北克枪杀6个穆斯林跟华人无关的看过来：
Whites risk marginalization, mosque shooting suspect told friend a day before attack
魁北克枪击案嫌疑人案发前一天告诉朋友，白人遭遇被边缘化的风险
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montr...p-travel-ban-quebec-mosque-shooting-1.3966687
Alexandre Bissonnette expressed fears during a Facebook exchange that the white race would be marginalized by immigration, the day before he was arrested in connection with the massacre at a Quebec City mosque, says a friend of the shooting suspect.
Crown prosecutors charged Bissonnette with six counts of first-degree murder and five counts of attempted murder on Monday, but neither the Crown nor police have released any information about the suspect's motives.
Former classmates and friends have described Bissonnette as gradually developing far-right views, though many say they lost contact with him in the months before the shooting.
However, Martin Robin, who met Bissonnette in 2014 at Laval University, said they interacted frequently on Facebook, including on the night before the shooting.
During their online conversation that Saturday, Robin recalled asking his friend what he thought about U.S. President Donald Trump's decision to temporarily ban entry to travellers from seven predominantly Muslim countries.
"He told me he just wanted white immigration to Canada and Quebec, exclusively," Robin told CBC News on Friday.
"He told me that in the long run, this non-white, non-European immigration may perhaps lead to the marginalization of whites. That's pretty much what struck me and what keeps popping up in my mind."
Martin Robin says he had a Facebook conversation with Bissonnette the night before the shooting. (Jonathan Montpetit/CBC)
Robin showed CBC News his Facebook account and an exchange with someone called Alexandre Bissonnette. Only Robin's side of the conversation is visible.
Bissonnette's side reads: "This message has been temporarily suppressed because the account of the sender requires verification."
A Facebook account that is believed to have belonged to Bissonnette was removed from the social networking site just hours before he was formally charged on Monday.
In response to Bissonnette's alleged comments, Robin said he told his friend that he was "crazy."
Met police investigators
Since Sunday's shooting, Robin has met with investigators from the Quebec provincial police and RCMP. He said they were seeking to find out if the suspect had received any support carrying out the attack.
"He had no help of any organization. Of that, I'm 100 per cent certain," Robin said of Bissonnette's alleged involvement.
Legal observers have speculated that ties to an organization are a necessary condition for laying terrorism-related charges, which Bissonnette is not facing, so far.
Robin also said he is good friends with Bissonnette's twin brother, Mathieu. The twins lived together in a Sainte-Foy apartment not far from the mosque Alexandre is accused of attacking.
Robin said he also had a Facebook exchange with Mathieu Bissonnette on the weekend of the shooting.
This image from Robin's Facebook account is part of his exchange with Bissonnette. The text highlighted in yellow reads, in French: 'This message has been temporarily suppressed because the account of the sender requires verification.' (Jonathan Montpetit)
They, too, discussed Trump's travel ban. Their exchange took place on Sunday night.
As the news began to circulate, Robin asked Mathieu if he had heard about the shooting, given the proximity of the mosque to his apartment.
"Yes, I saw it on the news," Mathieu Bissonnette replied. "But it's not in front of my place. It's all quiet here."
Later that night, Mathieu asked Robin if police knew "who committed the crime." When it emerged the following day that Mathieu's brother had been arrested, Robin wrote to offer his support.
Mathieu did not reply. Robin said he has not heard from him since Sunday night.
Whites risk marginalization, mosque shooting suspect told friend a day before attack
魁北克枪击案嫌疑人案发前一天告诉朋友，白人遭遇被边缘化的风险
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montr...p-travel-ban-quebec-mosque-shooting-1.3966687
Alexandre Bissonnette expressed fears during a Facebook exchange that the white race would be marginalized by immigration, the day before he was arrested in connection with the massacre at a Quebec City mosque, says a friend of the shooting suspect.
Crown prosecutors charged Bissonnette with six counts of first-degree murder and five counts of attempted murder on Monday, but neither the Crown nor police have released any information about the suspect's motives.
Former classmates and friends have described Bissonnette as gradually developing far-right views, though many say they lost contact with him in the months before the shooting.
However, Martin Robin, who met Bissonnette in 2014 at Laval University, said they interacted frequently on Facebook, including on the night before the shooting.
During their online conversation that Saturday, Robin recalled asking his friend what he thought about U.S. President Donald Trump's decision to temporarily ban entry to travellers from seven predominantly Muslim countries.
"He told me he just wanted white immigration to Canada and Quebec, exclusively," Robin told CBC News on Friday.
"He told me that in the long run, this non-white, non-European immigration may perhaps lead to the marginalization of whites. That's pretty much what struck me and what keeps popping up in my mind."
Martin Robin says he had a Facebook conversation with Bissonnette the night before the shooting. (Jonathan Montpetit/CBC)
Robin showed CBC News his Facebook account and an exchange with someone called Alexandre Bissonnette. Only Robin's side of the conversation is visible.
Bissonnette's side reads: "This message has been temporarily suppressed because the account of the sender requires verification."
A Facebook account that is believed to have belonged to Bissonnette was removed from the social networking site just hours before he was formally charged on Monday.
In response to Bissonnette's alleged comments, Robin said he told his friend that he was "crazy."
Met police investigators
Since Sunday's shooting, Robin has met with investigators from the Quebec provincial police and RCMP. He said they were seeking to find out if the suspect had received any support carrying out the attack.
"He had no help of any organization. Of that, I'm 100 per cent certain," Robin said of Bissonnette's alleged involvement.
Legal observers have speculated that ties to an organization are a necessary condition for laying terrorism-related charges, which Bissonnette is not facing, so far.
Robin also said he is good friends with Bissonnette's twin brother, Mathieu. The twins lived together in a Sainte-Foy apartment not far from the mosque Alexandre is accused of attacking.
Robin said he also had a Facebook exchange with Mathieu Bissonnette on the weekend of the shooting.
This image from Robin's Facebook account is part of his exchange with Bissonnette. The text highlighted in yellow reads, in French: 'This message has been temporarily suppressed because the account of the sender requires verification.' (Jonathan Montpetit)
They, too, discussed Trump's travel ban. Their exchange took place on Sunday night.
As the news began to circulate, Robin asked Mathieu if he had heard about the shooting, given the proximity of the mosque to his apartment.
"Yes, I saw it on the news," Mathieu Bissonnette replied. "But it's not in front of my place. It's all quiet here."
Later that night, Mathieu asked Robin if police knew "who committed the crime." When it emerged the following day that Mathieu's brother had been arrested, Robin wrote to offer his support.
Mathieu did not reply. Robin said he has not heard from him since Sunday night.
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