论坛会发行川普弹劾币吗?

[阿吾]

我说的就是，弹劾审判有罪判决之后，他这两天的特赦可能失效，

你先把可以弹劾前总统的说法和法律依据找出来吧。。

 

[sabre]

你先把可以弹劾前总统的说法和法律依据找出来吧。。

法律不是很明确，
我说了是我的解读

 

[阿吾]

我说的，下礼拜参议院上班的时候，就知道我对不对了，

疯狂地搞弹劾，其实是怕这个，川普解密
川普开始了。。。

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1349849922112204800

 

[阿吾]

法律不是很明确，
我说了是我的解读

这么说，你刚才的说法没啥依据，离任不影响弹劾，也许就是造谣了。。

离任不影响弹劾，
除了下台之外，还可以有别的惩罚，比如退休待遇，比如不许竞选公职，

 

[sabre]

这么说，你刚才的说法没啥依据，离任不影响弹劾，也许就是造谣了。。

一个解读，Laurence tribe, 也是这么解读的，
Laurence H. Tribe is the Carl M. Loeb University Professor Emeritus at Harvard Law School and most recently the co-author of “To End A Presidency: The Power of Impeachment.”


以下引用:
Article I, Section 3 comes closest to delineating the contours of the Impeachment Power, instructing that “Judgment in Cases of Impeachment shall not extend further than to removal from Office, and disqualification to hold and enjoy any Office of honor, Trust or Profit under the United States.”

These “judgments” — removal and disqualification — are analytically distinct and linguistically divisible. Their divisibility was first established by the Senate during the 1862 trial of federal-turned-confederate Judge West Humphreys and reaffirmed by a parliamentary inquiry during the 1936 trial of impeached Judge Halsted Ritter. The only court to address the issue agreed with the Senate that an impeachment trial could proceed even after the individual was no longer in office.

 

[sabre]

第二，下学期一开学，chuck Schumer 就走马上任Senate majority leader, 大概率，他会接案，

 

[阿吾]

一个解读，Laurence tribe, 也是这么解读的，
Laurence H. Tribe is the Carl M. Loeb University Professor Emeritus at Harvard Law School and most recently the co-author of “To End A Presidency: The Power of Impeachment.”


以下引用:
Article I, Section 3 comes closest to delineating the contours of the Impeachment Power, instructing that “Judgment in Cases of Impeachment shall not extend further than to removal from Office, and disqualification to hold and enjoy any Office of honor, Trust or Profit under the United States.”

These “judgments” — removal and disqualification — are analytically distinct and linguistically divisible. Their divisibility was first established by the Senate during the 1862 trial of federal-turned-confederate Judge West Humphreys and reaffirmed by a parliamentary inquiry during the 1936 trial of impeached Judge Halsted Ritter. The only court to address the issue agreed with the Senate that an impeachment trial could proceed even after the individual was no longer in office.

其实我也是了解过的。。。
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John Michael Luttig (born June 13, 1954) is an American lawyer and a former United States Circuit Judge of the United States Court of Appeals for the Fourth Circuit.

 

[阿吾]

 

[阿吾]

所以，川普除了对这次国会骚乱相关的罪行可能不能特赦，其它应该都没有问题。

haha

 

[sabre]

你那边的律师不行，powell, lin wood, Giuliani, 一个比一个臭，

 

[sabre]

说点正经事，
按版主目测有罪无罪三七开，
他卖四毛有罪，八毛无罪，

有感兴趣的吗

 

[AZURR]

假如他特赦亲朋，弹劾成功率会提高，
我目测，特赦也会失效，

现在，有四五个支持，一旦参议院开庭，证据继续涌现，支持会增多，

我目测，共和党内部，也不希望这个大祸害在视野里，再争取十几位支持，有希望，

37开的判断，比较靠谱

还要考虑稳定，不能得理不饶人。

 

[阿吾]

你那边的律师不行，powell, lin wood, Giuliani, 一个比一个臭，

你那边弹劾打手，通俄门上蹿下跳，无功而返，
前段时间被爆与中国女间谍有染，这次继续被任命为打手，上蹿下跳。。。

 

[sabre]

还要考虑稳定，不能得理不饶人。

只有判了他，信徒才会翻然悔悟，
阴谋论一直有，为什么这几年越演越烈? 答案是川普，
把他骗人的事迹揭示出来，上当群众才会觉悟，

 

[sabre]

你那边弹劾打手，通俄门上蹿下跳，无功而返，
前段时间被爆与中国女间谍有染，这次继续打算上蹿下跳。。。

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挺漂亮的赞，

 

[阿吾]

只有判了他，信徒才会翻然悔悟，
阴谋论一直有，为什么这几年越演越烈? 答案是川普，
把他骗人的事迹揭示出来，上当群众才会觉悟，

了解中国历史的都知道，但凡政变篡位的，
都喜欢株连九族，斩尽杀绝，因为怕啊。。。

 

[lyoo]

说点正经事，
按版主目测有罪无罪三七开，
他卖四毛有罪，八毛无罪，

有感兴趣的吗

我感觉3:9的比例，都可能没有多少人买无罪…

 

[AZURR]

只有判了他，信徒才会翻然悔悟，
阴谋论一直有，为什么这几年越演越烈? 答案是川普，
把他骗人的事迹揭示出来，上当群众才会觉悟，

被骗都是内在的需求驱动的。我相信钱财骗不了你，美色你就顶不住。川普不是因，是果。必须认清美国社会发展太快了，很多利益矛盾没有得到及时调解。

 

[lyoo]

只有判了他，信徒才会翻然悔悟，
阴谋论一直有，为什么这几年越演越烈? 答案是川普，
把他骗人的事迹揭示出来，上当群众才会觉悟，

如果admin真推出，我会参与

 

[阿吾]

被骗都是内在的需求驱动的。我相信钱财骗不了你，美色你就顶不住。川普不是因，是果。必须认清美国社会发展太快了，很多利益矛盾没有得到及时调解。

内在需求就是民意啊，响应民意咋叫骗呢，全球化是精英的需求，不是美国人的需求
蓬佩奥连续10多天，每天早上8点总是以这个推开始，30分钟一个推，