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回复: 有关EI的申请和案例
见上。回谢！
你这种情况，不必要现在报税而停止普通EI，可等待明年3月，领完普通EI，再报税也不迟。假若产期在明年9月，在明年3月后报税，7月份便可以申请产假EI了，可获50周。这样或许好点。请慎虑！
见上。回谢！
你这种情况，不必要现在报税而停止普通EI，可等待明年3月，领完普通EI，再报税也不迟。假若产期在明年9月，在明年3月后报税，7月份便可以申请产假EI了，可获50周。这样或许好点。请慎虑！
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搬家EI要点是，被动搬家，而非主动搬家。如果是因搬家而搬家，是很难获批的。而想稳胜，需要配偶在那里有工作方面的事情才可以。
请参看：
6.5.3 Obligation to Accompany a Spouse, Common-law Partner or Dependent Child to another Residence
中有一段是特别说明这种情况。
A couple may also decide to change places of residence for personal reasons which are unrelated to the place of employment of the spouse or the common-law partner. The couple may wish, for example, to move to the country, into the city or to be close to family members. Whether this decision was made unilaterally by one person or was a joint decision made by the couple is of little importance. What has to be decided, once the decision to move was made, is whether the decision of one person to accompany the other was justified. In determining this, one must take into consideration all the circumstances surrounding this move and ask whether, in this specific case, leaving employment was the only reasonable alternative.
如果想更加保稳，那只能找那些EI中介专家了，它们有的是办法，当然风险是同存的，个人自负！
搬家EI要点是，被动搬家，而非主动搬家。如果是因搬家而搬家，是很难获批的。而想稳胜，需要配偶在那里有工作方面的事情才可以。
请参看：
6.5.3 Obligation to Accompany a Spouse, Common-law Partner or Dependent Child to another Residence
中有一段是特别说明这种情况。
A couple may also decide to change places of residence for personal reasons which are unrelated to the place of employment of the spouse or the common-law partner. The couple may wish, for example, to move to the country, into the city or to be close to family members. Whether this decision was made unilaterally by one person or was a joint decision made by the couple is of little importance. What has to be decided, once the decision to move was made, is whether the decision of one person to accompany the other was justified. In determining this, one must take into consideration all the circumstances surrounding this move and ask whether, in this specific case, leaving employment was the only reasonable alternative.
如果想更加保稳，那只能找那些EI中介专家了，它们有的是办法，当然风险是同存的，个人自负！
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楼主，才看见这么好的帖子了，估计我已经错失了申请EI的时机，但还是想再问问：
我是去年10到今年5月有个part time job,累计到了450多个小时，当时因家属有病提出离职。因接到单子后上面写的离职原因是：辞职，当时因无知没有在意。后来5月中旬到6月底，有个full time,做了一周时间，因伤害眼睛，自己带上了墨镜上班，被无故lay off.然后8月底至9月初，又有个全职工作，因培训我的那个印尼人在我的休息时间里捣鬼，使我的机器出问题，又被lay off.这样算下来估计有603个小时。唉.....从没有在工业厂房里做事，遇见了这些。
请问：我这样的情况可以申请EI吗？谢谢先。
楼主，才看见这么好的帖子了，估计我已经错失了申请EI的时机，但还是想再问问：
我是去年10到今年5月有个part time job,累计到了450多个小时，当时因家属有病提出离职。因接到单子后上面写的离职原因是：辞职，当时因无知没有在意。后来5月中旬到6月底，有个full time,做了一周时间，因伤害眼睛，自己带上了墨镜上班，被无故lay off.然后8月底至9月初，又有个全职工作，因培训我的那个印尼人在我的休息时间里捣鬼，使我的机器出问题，又被lay off.这样算下来估计有603个小时。唉.....从没有在工业厂房里做事，遇见了这些。
请问：我这样的情况可以申请EI吗？谢谢先。
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没ROE，申请父母EI
Mao，是个老移民了，在一汽车零件厂工作了近10年，无耐被次贷危机重挫，拿着普通EI在家，空闲得再添一子，显得充实多了。正在冲满喜庆之时，LG的公司破产了，平时总说常加班，见面机会少，话没多两句，这会抬头也见，低头也见，话题更多吵架了。Mao的EI也完了，工作真不容易找呀，听说原厂在招工，回去试看。没问题，但要放到Agent处，不但原来的福利没了，工资也是最低的。做吗？体谅一下经济时期公司的困境吧，过去也曾辉煌。它是无法，你是无耐！
今昔相比，天壤之别！公司的制度黑薄多了，到手的人工少多了，这块鸡肋味淡多了。。。工作越多，想法越多。家里的LG不善家务，心操更多。时常要请假，生活不容易呀！
Mao想着多请假，让公司把她给再Lay了。俺帮她掂了一下，这样不好，万一公司不是Lay off，而是解雇，申请EI就不好办了，而且请假太多，总收入会下降，对最终的EI金额影响很大。相反，要加大马力，要最后时期，能加班则加班，达到18周700小时较好。
为什么达到18周700小时较好呢？
俺在这一例中已分解过，多伦多的最小除数为18。那多做几周好不好？当然情况不同，答案不同。就那Mao的例子来说吧。
申请怀孕和父母EI的有效期在产后Baby一周年52周内都有效，一般情况下考虑产后1个月4周再工作，工作了18周，扣去申请EI的2周等候期便剩下最多52-4-18-2=28，越往后工作，所得的周数越少。如假若，Mao休完父母假后，不能回去，有可能再接着申请普通EI，在多伦多，现失业率为9.3%，700小时可获26周，但两种EI接连合并申请最多50周，28+26大于50，多做EI周数不会多，反而令原该有的父母EI周数减少。
Mao听后，觉有理，很计而行。谁料，与Agent说申请父母假，索要ROE，Agent说“你这样做，是不合适的，除非你辞职“。那辞职，能不能申请到父母EI呢？答案的十分肯定的。但这Agent也实在没水平了，这一项加拿大的优妇政策都没懂，有点杯具！
。第一次不行，好第二次，带上个要好的同事一起去，还是坚持说辞职才可以给ROE。
，这种Agent不是摆明着说，以后想回来工作也难？看来此后再申请普通EI也不难了。
不给就不给，能抢吗？
到网上申请EI后，下载了Request for Record of Employment表格,按要求填写，与工资支票存根（所以保留下这存根就有作用了）寄去Service Canada。一个月后，没音讯。不用急嘛！网上信息给了待候期，还要一个月
。能申请下来吗？这种EI，不批？黑了它的网址。
等呀等！牛！终于在最后的一刻，出现了曙光。
，一下子，帐户进入了近2个月的$$$$
。看来坚持就是胜利，是有一定的革命道理的。
Mao,能否再接着申请普通EI，让我们等她来分解？
谢谢！
Mao，是个老移民了，在一汽车零件厂工作了近10年，无耐被次贷危机重挫，拿着普通EI在家，空闲得再添一子，显得充实多了。正在冲满喜庆之时，LG的公司破产了，平时总说常加班，见面机会少，话没多两句，这会抬头也见，低头也见，话题更多吵架了。Mao的EI也完了，工作真不容易找呀，听说原厂在招工，回去试看。没问题，但要放到Agent处，不但原来的福利没了，工资也是最低的。做吗？体谅一下经济时期公司的困境吧，过去也曾辉煌。它是无法，你是无耐！
今昔相比，天壤之别！公司的制度黑薄多了，到手的人工少多了，这块鸡肋味淡多了。。。工作越多，想法越多。家里的LG不善家务，心操更多。时常要请假，生活不容易呀！
Mao想着多请假，让公司把她给再Lay了。俺帮她掂了一下，这样不好，万一公司不是Lay off，而是解雇，申请EI就不好办了，而且请假太多，总收入会下降，对最终的EI金额影响很大。相反，要加大马力，要最后时期，能加班则加班，达到18周700小时较好。
为什么达到18周700小时较好呢？
俺在这一例中已分解过，多伦多的最小除数为18。那多做几周好不好？当然情况不同，答案不同。就那Mao的例子来说吧。
申请怀孕和父母EI的有效期在产后Baby一周年52周内都有效，一般情况下考虑产后1个月4周再工作，工作了18周，扣去申请EI的2周等候期便剩下最多52-4-18-2=28，越往后工作，所得的周数越少。如假若，Mao休完父母假后，不能回去，有可能再接着申请普通EI，在多伦多，现失业率为9.3%，700小时可获26周，但两种EI接连合并申请最多50周，28+26大于50，多做EI周数不会多，反而令原该有的父母EI周数减少。
Mao听后，觉有理，很计而行。谁料，与Agent说申请父母假，索要ROE，Agent说“你这样做，是不合适的，除非你辞职“。那辞职，能不能申请到父母EI呢？答案的十分肯定的。但这Agent也实在没水平了，这一项加拿大的优妇政策都没懂，有点杯具！
。第一次不行，好第二次，带上个要好的同事一起去，还是坚持说辞职才可以给ROE。，这种Agent不是摆明着说，以后想回来工作也难？看来此后再申请普通EI也不难了。不给就不给，能抢吗？
到网上申请EI后，下载了Request for Record of Employment表格,按要求填写，与工资支票存根（所以保留下这存根就有作用了）寄去Service Canada。一个月后，没音讯。不用急嘛！网上信息给了待候期，还要一个月。能申请下来吗？这种EI，不批？黑了它的网址。等呀等！牛！终于在最后的一刻，出现了曙光。
，一下子，帐户进入了近2个月的$$$$。看来坚持就是胜利，是有一定的革命道理的。Mao,能否再接着申请普通EI，让我们等她来分解？
谢谢！
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ROE一般要求在累后5天内开出。所以被累后，及时向公司索要。
一般建议在累后28天内申请。迟后申请，会被问及好些问题。
政府网站给出两种情况：
1、被累时，已经给付。所得的补偿等于平均周薪的多少周数，便推延多少周。你好象类似这种情况。
2、被累后，在两周等候期内收到补偿。一般情况下，扣除EI最初三周金额，第四周不用扣了。
政府的政策会变，以前提供的一些链接已找不到，因而附上全文如下：
If your employer made a payment to you when you stopped working
When you stopped working, you may have received severance pay, vacation pay, or an amount that was put into an RRSP. If this is the case, the date on which you begin to receive benefits may be delayed.
For example, if you received severance pay equal to 12 weeks of earnings, the payment of your regular benefits will be delayed by 12 weeks, whether you received this amount as a lump-sum payment or it was paid to you over 12 weeks. In this situation, you will still have to file a benefit claim as soon as you become unemployed so that your claim can be processed as quickly as possible.
You may also receive severance pay, vacation pay, or termination pay after filing your benefit claim. These amounts must also be reported; they will be processed in the same way as if you received them when your employment ended. The addition of these amounts to your insurable earnings may, among other things, extend the duration of your benefit claim or increase the amount of the benefits to which you are entitled.
However, you could be in a situation where you do not know whether you will receive the severance pay that you are owed (for example, if your employer declares bankruptcy). You may be required to pay back part or all of the EI benefits that you received if severance pay was paid to you afterwards. If you believe that you are in this situation, contact us. If you receive vacation pay or pay in lieu of notice following a layoff, these amounts are insurable and will be included in the calculation of your weekly average earnings.
If you receive money during the waiting period
Any amounts you earn or are allocated during the two-week waiting period, including vacation pay or severance pay, will be deducted during the first three weeks in which you should receive benefits, because the allowable earnings do not apply during the waiting period. These amounts are deducted dollar for dollar.
Note
These three weeks do not have to be consecutive or immediately follow the two-week waiting period.
For each example, the dates indicated always represents Sunday.
Example 1 Total amount of earnings deducted during the first week of benefits
Anne is unemployed and filed a claim for benefits, which was approved. Her benefit period began on January 1. She had to serve a two-week waiting period, from January 1 to January 14. Her first week of benefits began on January 15. Her weekly benefit amount is $300.
She received vacation pay of $195 during the two-week waiting period. Normally, this amount must be deducted in the first three weeks during which benefits are to be paid. However, since this amount is less than the amount of her weekly benefits ($300), it will be deducted only in the first week of benefits, which began on January 15. The calculation is the following: $300 (amount of benefits) $195 (amount of vacation pay) = $105. Therefore, Anne will receive $105 in her first week of benefits. There will be no other amount to deduct afterward.
Example 2 A portion of earnings deducted in the first three weeks of benefits and remaining amount set aside after this period
Frédéric is unemployed and filed a claim for benefits, which was approved. His benefit period began on January 1. He had to serve a two-week waiting period, from January 1 to January 14. His first week of benefits began on January 15. His weekly benefit amount is $400. However, since filing his claim, Frédéric has gone back to work.
Any person who receives EI benefits can usually earn up to $50 per week or 25% of their weekly benefit, whichever is higher. Any money earned above that amount will be deducted dollar for dollar from their benefit.
However, effective December 7, 2008, until December 4, 2010, they can earn the higher of the following two amounts:
Frédéric is entitled to earn up to $160 per week, which is equal to 40% of his weekly benefit amount. Any amount greater than $160 will be deducted in full from his benefits.
As of January 1, he earned the following amounts:
The first week in which he received benefits began on January 15. He earned $380 in that week. The calculation is the following:
$400 (amount of benefits) + $160 (earnings allowed) $380 (amount earned) = $180
An amount of $180 should be paid to him, but he will not receive any money during this week because he received earnings during the waiting period and the amount of $180 must be deducted from the total amount that he has to pay back ($745) as follows: $745 $180 = $565. Therefore, a deduction of $565 remains.
The second week in which he received benefits began on January 22. He earned $360 in that week. The calculation is the following:
$400 (amount of benefits) + $160 (earnings allowed) $360 (amount earned) = $200
An amount of $200 should be paid to him, but he will not receive any money during this week because this amount must be deducted from the remaining amount of the earnings received during the waiting period ($565) as follows: $565 $200 = $365. Therefore, a deduction of $365 remains.
The third week in which he received benefits began on January 29. He earned $380 in that week. The calculation is the following:
$400 (amount of benefits) + $160 (earnings allowed) $380 (amount earned) = $180
An amount of $180 should be paid to him, but he will not receive any money during this week because this amount must be deducted from the remaining amount of the earnings received in the waiting period ($365) as follows: $365 $180 = $185.
Since the three weeks have passed, although there is a remaining amount of $185 to be paid back, it is set aside as of the fourth week.
ROE一般要求在累后5天内开出。所以被累后，及时向公司索要。
一般建议在累后28天内申请。迟后申请，会被问及好些问题。
政府网站给出两种情况：
1、被累时，已经给付。所得的补偿等于平均周薪的多少周数，便推延多少周。你好象类似这种情况。
2、被累后，在两周等候期内收到补偿。一般情况下，扣除EI最初三周金额，第四周不用扣了。
政府的政策会变，以前提供的一些链接已找不到，因而附上全文如下：
If your employer made a payment to you when you stopped working
When you stopped working, you may have received severance pay, vacation pay, or an amount that was put into an RRSP. If this is the case, the date on which you begin to receive benefits may be delayed.
For example, if you received severance pay equal to 12 weeks of earnings, the payment of your regular benefits will be delayed by 12 weeks, whether you received this amount as a lump-sum payment or it was paid to you over 12 weeks. In this situation, you will still have to file a benefit claim as soon as you become unemployed so that your claim can be processed as quickly as possible.
You may also receive severance pay, vacation pay, or termination pay after filing your benefit claim. These amounts must also be reported; they will be processed in the same way as if you received them when your employment ended. The addition of these amounts to your insurable earnings may, among other things, extend the duration of your benefit claim or increase the amount of the benefits to which you are entitled.
However, you could be in a situation where you do not know whether you will receive the severance pay that you are owed (for example, if your employer declares bankruptcy). You may be required to pay back part or all of the EI benefits that you received if severance pay was paid to you afterwards. If you believe that you are in this situation, contact us. If you receive vacation pay or pay in lieu of notice following a layoff, these amounts are insurable and will be included in the calculation of your weekly average earnings.
If you receive money during the waiting period
Any amounts you earn or are allocated during the two-week waiting period, including vacation pay or severance pay, will be deducted during the first three weeks in which you should receive benefits, because the allowable earnings do not apply during the waiting period. These amounts are deducted dollar for dollar.
Note
These three weeks do not have to be consecutive or immediately follow the two-week waiting period.
For each example, the dates indicated always represents Sunday.
Example 1 Total amount of earnings deducted during the first week of benefits
Anne is unemployed and filed a claim for benefits, which was approved. Her benefit period began on January 1. She had to serve a two-week waiting period, from January 1 to January 14. Her first week of benefits began on January 15. Her weekly benefit amount is $300.
She received vacation pay of $195 during the two-week waiting period. Normally, this amount must be deducted in the first three weeks during which benefits are to be paid. However, since this amount is less than the amount of her weekly benefits ($300), it will be deducted only in the first week of benefits, which began on January 15. The calculation is the following: $300 (amount of benefits) $195 (amount of vacation pay) = $105. Therefore, Anne will receive $105 in her first week of benefits. There will be no other amount to deduct afterward.
Example 2 A portion of earnings deducted in the first three weeks of benefits and remaining amount set aside after this period
Frédéric is unemployed and filed a claim for benefits, which was approved. His benefit period began on January 1. He had to serve a two-week waiting period, from January 1 to January 14. His first week of benefits began on January 15. His weekly benefit amount is $400. However, since filing his claim, Frédéric has gone back to work.
Any person who receives EI benefits can usually earn up to $50 per week or 25% of their weekly benefit, whichever is higher. Any money earned above that amount will be deducted dollar for dollar from their benefit.
However, effective December 7, 2008, until December 4, 2010, they can earn the higher of the following two amounts:
- $75 a week; or
- 40% of the weekly benefit amount.
Frédéric is entitled to earn up to $160 per week, which is equal to 40% of his weekly benefit amount. Any amount greater than $160 will be deducted in full from his benefits.
As of January 1, he earned the following amounts:
- vacation pay of $395 that was paid to him in the week of January 1 (the first week of the waiting period)
- earnings of $350 in the week of January 8 (the second week of the waiting period)
- earnings of $380 in the week of January 15 (the first week of benefits)
- earnings of $360 in the week of January 22 (the second week of benefits)
- earnings of $380 in the week of January 29 (the third week of benefits)
The first week in which he received benefits began on January 15. He earned $380 in that week. The calculation is the following:
$400 (amount of benefits) + $160 (earnings allowed) $380 (amount earned) = $180
An amount of $180 should be paid to him, but he will not receive any money during this week because he received earnings during the waiting period and the amount of $180 must be deducted from the total amount that he has to pay back ($745) as follows: $745 $180 = $565. Therefore, a deduction of $565 remains.
The second week in which he received benefits began on January 22. He earned $360 in that week. The calculation is the following:
$400 (amount of benefits) + $160 (earnings allowed) $360 (amount earned) = $200
An amount of $200 should be paid to him, but he will not receive any money during this week because this amount must be deducted from the remaining amount of the earnings received during the waiting period ($565) as follows: $565 $200 = $365. Therefore, a deduction of $365 remains.
The third week in which he received benefits began on January 29. He earned $380 in that week. The calculation is the following:
$400 (amount of benefits) + $160 (earnings allowed) $380 (amount earned) = $180
An amount of $180 should be paid to him, but he will not receive any money during this week because this amount must be deducted from the remaining amount of the earnings received in the waiting period ($365) as follows: $365 $180 = $185.
Since the three weeks have passed, although there is a remaining amount of $185 to be paid back, it is set aside as of the fourth week.
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病假EI转普通EI
近来，协助一位朋友的老妈妈申请了病假EI及其后的普通EI。
老妈妈，移民10多年了，也在同一公司工作10多年，人老了，长年的繁劳辛累，身体的毛病也出来了，实在是需要休息一下，医生开了证明，先休一个月，申请了病假EI，期后，病情没好转，接连开具了不同时期的3张假单证明，15周病EI领完。
病假EI后，病情还没有完全康复，老妈妈想接着休息。那么如何转成普通EI呢？
普通EI的一个申请原则为，能工作而不能工作。首先，要医生证明老妈妈的病情好转，但要求安排些轻便的工作，如果公司不给安排工作，便让公司出具证明。9月底填表，上交。网上显示收到新资料，将在10月底作出决定，那就等呗！，10月过去了，网上信息变更为，处而未决。再过一周，打电话，说要去柜台问下。接待员说，怎么那么迟才来呀？不关心钱吗？NND，还不是你让候着吗？不用多论，关键是下步怎办？填表，递交。网上财时显示两条信息，一为之前的“处而未决”的信息，二为收到新申请，会尽快处理。等！无耐的等！时间又过去一个月，网上信息依旧未变。再次问，再次去柜台，接待员再次说“怎么那么迟才来呀？“
，被雷晕了。看来以后，得建议TXM，没事多登三宝殿才对。这次不用再等了吧？办事员，简单问了下近情，补报了上2个多月没作的报告（因为，病假EI后，在网上汇报时，告知病假EI已结束，不能在网上再填报）。花啦啦！！！！，一下了不少的数字入帐了。
近来，协助一位朋友的老妈妈申请了病假EI及其后的普通EI。
老妈妈，移民10多年了，也在同一公司工作10多年，人老了，长年的繁劳辛累，身体的毛病也出来了，
实在是需要休息一下，医生开了证明，先休一个月，申请了病假EI，期后，病情没好转，接连开具了不同时期的3张假单证明，15周病EI领完。病假EI后，病情还没有完全康复，老妈妈想接着休息。那么如何转成普通EI呢？
普通EI的一个申请原则为，能工作而不能工作。首先，要医生证明老妈妈的病情好转，但要求安排些轻便的工作，如果公司不给安排工作，便让公司出具证明。9月底填表，上交。网上显示收到新资料，将在10月底作出决定，那就等呗！
，10月过去了，网上信息变更为，处而未决。再过一周，打电话，说要去柜台问下。接待员说，怎么那么迟才来呀？不关心钱吗？NND，还不是你让候着吗？不用多论，关键是下步怎办？填表，递交。网上财时显示两条信息，一为之前的“处而未决”的信息，二为收到新申请，会尽快处理。等！无耐的等！时间又过去一个月，网上信息依旧未变。再次问，再次去柜台，接待员再次说“怎么那么迟才来呀？“，被雷晕了。看来以后，得建议TXM，没事多登三宝殿才对。这次不用再等了吧？办事员，简单问了下近情，补报了上2个多月没作的报告（因为，病假EI后，在网上汇报时，告知病假EI已结束，不能在网上再填报）。花啦啦！！！！，一下了不少的数字入帐了。
