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乐土乐土缘得我所

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2006-08-01
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#81
什么叫极端怀疑?

1. 政府有公布过筛选细节? 战乱国家如何审查真实身份? 如何审查背景? 特别中东的护照交易猖獗,许多其他地区的也冒充叙利亚人。短时间内如何界定有没有恐怖分子。混进来? 政府有专业能力有足够的人手在几个月内审几万人吗?土豆何时公布过这些细节?

2. 政府有公布过这几万人的融入状况? 一年之后,两年之后,有继续跟踪这些人有多少可以脱离社会福利支持? 有考虑过对各级政府财政的影响?

同样,现在土豆这个大傻逼大开国界,几万人几万人放进来来历不明的非法越界的,有公布过审核细节?有公布过对社会对纳税人的影响? 别的不说,安置这些非法越境的去酒店住着,花了多少钱,有公布?

不是说哈珀有多好,任何政党都要质疑要监督,但是出了土豆这么个百年一见的大傻逼,真的是动摇国本。
土豆经济治国无能,只能把自己糊抹成一个道德圣人。
 

Joe.ca

知名园友
2010-08-03
10,123
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7 天前
#83
什么叫极端怀疑?

1. 政府有公布过筛选细节? 战乱国家如何审查真实身份? 如何审查背景? 特别中东的护照交易猖獗,许多其他地区的也冒充叙利亚人。短时间内如何界定有没有恐怖分子。混进来? 政府有专业能力有足够的人手在几个月内审几万人吗?土豆何时公布过这些细节?

2. 政府有公布过这几万人的融入状况? 一年之后,两年之后,有继续跟踪这些人有多少可以脱离社会福利支持? 有考虑过对各级政府财政的影响?

同样,现在土豆这个大傻逼大开国界,几万人几万人放进来来历不明的非法越界的,有公布过审核细节?有公布过对社会对纳税人的影响? 别的不说,安置这些非法越境的去酒店住着,花了多少钱,有公布?

不是说哈珀有多好,任何政党都要质疑要监督,但是出了土豆这么个百年一见的大傻逼,真的是动摇国本。
问你一个问题,你或者这坛子里的质疑者,有几个人是认真了解过提过的这些疑问的? 自己不了解的事情,仅凭媒体的报道,然后就组织游行反对政府,是不是太草率? 另外麻烦问一下,你这几万人几万人非法越界者的数据是怎样来的?
 
2005-07-10
1,111
685
7 天前
#85
问你一个问题,你或者这坛子里的质疑者,有几个人是认真了解过提过的这些疑问的? 自己不了解的事情,仅凭媒体的报道,然后就组织游行反对政府,是不是太草率?
媒体报道? 媒体天天给土豆洗地好不好? 哈法有个难民开了家巧克力店,cbc天天拿这事出来当遮羞布,报了一遍又一遍。

我倒是想不再质疑,想看看这批难民怎么融入的,就业数据,拿福利数据,犯罪率数据,语言水平进展数据,各级政府供养这批人支出详情,有公开的政府报告吗? 有媒体报道吗?

没有的话,我只能靠主观观感来判断:从头到脚蒙黑布的女人越来越多,某些街区游手好闲的某些群体年轻人越来越多,白帽子一拖一大串五六七八个小孩的越来越多。。。
 

Joe.ca

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2010-08-03
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7 天前
#86
媒体报道? 媒体天天给土豆洗地好不好? 哈法有个难民开了家巧克力店,cbc天天拿这事出来当遮羞布,报了一遍又一遍。

我倒是想不再质疑,想看看这批难民怎么融入的,就业数据,拿福利数据,犯罪率数据,语言水平进展数据,各级政府供养这批人支出详情,有公开的政府报告吗? 有媒体报道吗?

没有的话,我只能靠主观观感来判断:从头到脚蒙黑布的女人越来越多,某些街区游手好闲的某些群体年轻人越来越多,白帽子一拖一大串五六七八个小孩的越来越多。。。
这些资料你有查过吗? 你有向政府有关机构要过吗? 如果你有要求政府提供,请问你是怎样做的? 我想,大多数人只是像你一样的主观判断,这也是我要讨论的重点。
 
2005-07-10
1,111
685
7 天前
#87
这些资料你有查过吗? 你有向政府有关机构要过吗? 如果你有要求政府提供,请问你是怎样做的? 我想,大多数人只是像你一样的主观判断,这也是我要讨论的重点。
1. 给议员写过邮件,没有下文。

2. 有媒体要求联邦政府公开信息,答案是无可奉告。

https://vancouversun.com/opinion/co...eau-government-goes-silent-on-syrian-refugees

Given the grand gestures, you would be forgiven for believing the federal Liberals and the department responsible for refugees would be tracking the fate of the tens of the thousands of struggling Syrians that Canada has recently taken in.

But, after more than two weeks of inquiries by Postmedia, a media relations officer acknowledged the department has not produced any report in almost two years on the about 50,000 Syrian refugees now in Canada.

Canada’s auditor general is among the unamused. The Liberals had a plan to monitor whether the mostly Arabic-speaking refugees were learning English or French, working, receiving social assistance and going to school, but the government has failed to follow through, said auditor general Michael Ferguson. It is Ottawa’s responsibility, he said, to make sure Syrians refugees “integrate into Canadian society.”
 

小雷音

知名园友
2015-08-04
13,930
13,161
7 天前
#88
这些资料你有查过吗? 你有向政府有关机构要过吗? 如果你有要求政府提供,请问你是怎样做的? 我想,大多数人只是像你一样的主观判断,这也是我要讨论的重点。
人要怎么想,你说什么都没用的,我就不会浪费时间。人家有时间游行就游吧
 

Joe.ca

知名园友
2010-08-03
10,123
15,810
7 天前
#89
1. 给议员写过邮件,没有下文。

2. 有媒体要求联邦政府公开信息,答案是无可奉告。

https://vancouversun.com/opinion/co...eau-government-goes-silent-on-syrian-refugees

Given the grand gestures, you would be forgiven for believing the federal Liberals and the department responsible for refugees would be tracking the fate of the tens of the thousands of struggling Syrians that Canada has recently taken in.

But, after more than two weeks of inquiries by Postmedia, a media relations officer acknowledged the department has not produced any report in almost two years on the about 50,000 Syrian refugees now in Canada.

Canada’s auditor general is among the unamused. The Liberals had a plan to monitor whether the mostly Arabic-speaking refugees were learning English or French, working, receiving social assistance and going to school, but the government has failed to follow through, said auditor general Michael Ferguson. It is Ottawa’s responsibility, he said, to make sure Syrians refugees “integrate into Canadian society.”
感谢提供的论据,不过没有看到政府难民筛选程序有问题的论据,这是这个帖子里大家比较关心的焦点。
 
2005-07-10
1,111
685
7 天前
#90
人要怎么想,你说什么都没用的,我就不会浪费时间。人家有时间游行就游吧
神经病,你不查,不等于其他人没查。

你既然怕浪费时间,又啥都不懂,就别进来这帖子瞎bb,滚出即可。

土豆这个傻逼打肿脸充胖子弄进来几万人,实际安置并不到位,该给难民提供的服务并不上心,包括语言服务,医疗,就业培训,漏洞百出,联邦难民部门也拿不出数据证明这些人有效融入。所以难民这个事,不是土豆白左有多高尚,就是他们谋私利的道具。难民的福祉人家根本不关心。

看看审计长的报告:http://www.oag-bvg.gc.ca/internet/English/parl_oag_201711_03_e_42668.html

看这些部分:
3.18,
3.47,
3.50,
3.57,
3.59,
3.52,
3.70,
3.72,
3.60,
3.63,
3.83,
3.84...

审计报告列了一堆问题,随便贴一条,土豆根本没持续跟踪难民的福利,就业,医疗,语言问题。啥数字都拿不出来。

the Department measured only 7 of its 16 indicators regarding whether the refugees were living safely and independently in Canada. Of the 9 indicators the Department did not measure, 5 were about health care and education services, for which it planned to get information from the provinces. However, the Department did not arrange to obtain this information.

The Department did not collect any information for the following 5 health care and education indicators:

the percentage of Syrian refugees with chronic health issues who had health care providers,
the percentage of Syrian refugees with chronic health issues who had health care providers and were satisfied with the health care they received,
the percentage of school-aged children who were attending school,
the percentage of Syrian refugee families who had school-aged children with special needs, and
the percentage of Syrian refugee families who had school-aged children with special needs that were being addressed.
 
2005-07-10
1,111
685
7 天前
#91
感谢提供的论据,不过没有看到政府难民筛选程序有问题的论据,这是这个帖子里大家比较关心的焦点。
难民怎么筛选的,非法入境的怎么安置处理,只有土豆知道,他应该公布出来,举证责任怎么会落到啥信息都没有的公民头上?

公民的代理人,包括审计部门,反对党,部门媒体,都有推动信息公开,土豆有做到吗?
 

小雷音

知名园友
2015-08-04
13,930
13,161
7 天前
#92
神经病,你不查,不等于其他人没查。

你既然怕浪费时间,又啥都不懂,就别进来这帖子瞎bb,滚出即可。

土豆这个傻逼打肿脸充胖子弄进来几万人,实际安置并不到位,该给难民提供的服务并不上心,包括语言服务,医疗,就业培训,漏洞百出,联邦难民部门也拿不出数据证明这些人有效融入。所以难民这个事,不是土豆白左有多高尚,就是他们谋私利的道具。难民的福祉人家根本不关心。

看看审计长的报告:http://www.oag-bvg.gc.ca/internet/English/parl_oag_201711_03_e_42668.html

看这些部分:
3.18,
3.47,
3.50,
3.57,
3.59,
3.52,
3.70,
3.72,
3.60,
3.63,
3.83,
3.84...

审计报告列了一堆问题,随便贴一条,土豆根本没持续跟踪难民的福利,就业,医疗,语言问题。啥数字都拿不出来。

the Department measured only 7 of its 16 indicators regarding whether the refugees were living safely and independently in Canada. Of the 9 indicators the Department did not measure, 5 were about health care and education services, for which it planned to get information from the provinces. However, the Department did not arrange to obtain this information.

The Department did not collect any information for the following 5 health care and education indicators:

the percentage of Syrian refugees with chronic health issues who had health care providers,
the percentage of Syrian refugees with chronic health issues who had health care providers and were satisfied with the health care they received,
the percentage of school-aged children who were attending school,
the percentage of Syrian refugee families who had school-aged children with special needs, and
the percentage of Syrian refugee families who had school-aged children with special needs that were being addressed.
懒得看。反正我选自由党。
 

Joe.ca

知名园友
2010-08-03
10,123
15,810
7 天前
懂了,原来白人喜欢难民,所以傻逼就要跟在后面一起舔。你这么喜欢难民sponsor几个到家里一起住着啊,别光说不练。
兄弟,最后再多句嘴,辩论归辩论,说到底大家都在加拿大,没人希望自己及本族裔的人过得不好,除了一些别有用心的人之外,骂人就没意思了,不仅无助于解决问题,只会加深大家的矛盾。