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留学生求助:沃尔玛买了一把玩具枪 被警察拦住收走了

原文链接:https://forum.iask.ca/threads/729992/

carlosforbbiden : 2014-09-24#1
由于本人不懂在加拿大的规矩 今天在沃尔玛买了一把玩具枪 回家路上坐朋友车里就打开看了看 然后被警察拦下来了 警察把玩具枪收走了 然后说明天给我们电话告诉我们能否拿回这个玩具枪 请问下这个会不会给我们留下不良记录之类的 还有就是会不会对我同学有什么不良影响(注:他是开车的人)

八根儿 : 2014-09-24#2
既然是商品玩具,怎么可能会有影响?:wdb2:
如果俺遇到此事,警察不归还的话,绝对找他们打官司,100%会赢的吧?:wdb43:

wsqlya : 2014-09-24#3
玩具枪怎么可能被没收哦 是不是警察问话你回答的支支吾吾的有点可疑啊

z x y : 2014-09-24#4
由于本人不懂在加拿大的规矩 今天在沃尔玛买了一把玩具枪 回家路上坐朋友车里就打开看了看 然后被警察拦下来了 警察把玩具枪收走了 然后说明天给我们电话告诉我们能否拿回这个玩具枪 请问下这个会不会给我们留下不良记录之类的 还有就是会不会对我同学有什么不良影响(注:他是开车的人)
真是吃饱撑的,警察怀疑你想用玩具枪打劫

carlosforbbiden : 2014-09-24#5
玩具枪怎么可能被没收哦 是不是警察问话你回答的支支吾吾的有点可疑啊
之前是我没说清楚 就是我们买完回家的路上 我同学开车 我把东西拆出来放在腿上 然后走过一个路口的时候有个警察出来 把我们拦下来 说这个很危险 然后就要了我们身份资料电话号码之后把那个玩具枪收走了 说明天晚上给我们打电话告诉我们会不会还给我 刚刚语言学校这边给我同学说我们这个是违法了 还说可能会刑事起诉我 说我这个危害公共安全 但我问了我房东 他说应该没什么问题 因为那只是个玩具 所以请问下大家 我这个事情会有什么问题吗
不胜感激(问话的时候我一直跟他说sorry 我说我不清楚这边的法规之类的 他也没说什么 就说叫我们回去等电话)

carlosforbbiden : 2014-09-24#6
真是吃饱撑的,警察怀疑你想用玩具枪打劫
因为不知道啊 毕竟东西是在沃尔玛买的 超市里随意能买到的东西理论上不应该出什么事情 而且我们在车里 也没做出任何不正常的举动啊

aywl : 2014-09-24#7
听姐的话,好好给警察说,这只是玩具枪,千万别同警察争辩,还不还枪根本无所谓,千万别留下底案,影响移民及入籍;

carlosforbbiden : 2014-09-24#8
听姐的话,好好给警察说,这只是玩具枪,千万别同警察争辩,还不还枪根本无所谓,千万别留下底案,影响移民及入籍;
没有跟他们争辩 警察也知道这是玩具 还不还问题倒是不大 只是我们之前都没有碰到过类似的事情 就是不担心会不会影响学业之类的

aywl : 2014-09-24#9
你这情况,本身没犯罪动机,给他们说清楚就行了;千万别同警察争辩;

中国好声音 : 2014-09-24#10
沃尔玛买的玩具枪怎么会有问题
警察需要下个台阶吧。

carlosforbbiden : 2014-09-24#11
沃尔玛买的玩具枪怎么会有问题
警察需要下个台阶吧。
如果是这样就最好 但为何语言学校这边告诉我同学说会起诉什么的呢

thecupoflife : 2014-09-24#12
这边警察就是混福利,入室盗窃看这些垃圾回去破案不。尽搞扯淡的

coco_s : 2014-09-24#13
应该没事的。既然是沃尔玛买的,肯定不是管制器械嘛。警察在车外看见的时候可能以为是真的,不过你们交出来了一看是玩具的,总得找个台阶下吧?所以就随口说晚上给你们回复。我估计警察早就把这事忘得一干二净了,你还在这里胆战心惊呢。
不过上面只是我猜测的哈。anyway,买玩具不犯法的。

new_mic : 2014-09-24#14
由于本人不懂在加拿大的规矩 今天在沃尔玛买了一把玩具枪 回家路上坐朋友车里就打开看了看 然后被警察拦下来了 警察把玩具枪收走了 然后说明天给我们电话告诉我们能否拿回这个玩具枪 请问下这个会不会给我们留下不良记录之类的 还有就是会不会对我同学有什么不良影响(注:他是开车的人)

估计警察在根据枪的威力找合适的法律. 按照下文的说法多半违反了某些法律

Air Guns http://www.rcmp-grc.gc.ca/cfp-pcaf/fs-fd/air_gun-arme_air-eng.htm

1. Air guns that are firearms for purposes of both the Firearms Act and the Criminal Code
These are air guns with both a high muzzle velocity (greater than 152.4 metres or 500 feet per second) and a high muzzle energy (greater than 5.7 joules or 4.2 foot-pounds). The "muzzle velocity" is the speed of a projectile at the instant it leaves the muzzle of a gun, normally expressed in metres per second or feet per second. The "muzzle energy" is the energy of a projectile at the instant it leaves the muzzle of a gun, expressed in joules or foot-pounds. Air guns need to meet both standards to be classified as firearms for purposes of the Firearms Act.
These high-powered air guns are subject to the same licence and registration requirements as a conventional firearm. Owners and users are also required to store, transport, display and handle them safely in accordance with the regulations supporting the Firearms Act.
Usually, the manufacturer's specifications are used to determine what muzzle velocity and muzzle energy an air gun was designed to have. This information may be available in the user's manual or on the manufacturer's website. If the information is not available, individuals can call the Royal Canadian Mounted Police Canadian Firearms Program (CFP) at 1-800-731-4000 and ask to speak to a firearm technician to find out if the air gun is considered to be a firearm for purposes of the Firearms Act.
High-powered air rifles are generally classified as non-restricted firearms. However, the classification depends on the exact design of the air gun. Air rifles manufactured to resemble an assault rifle could be non-restricted, restricted or prohibited depending on the exact model imitated. High-powered air rifles would also be prohibited firearms if fully automatic or if they have a sawed-off barrel. They could also be restricted firearms if they have a folding stock that reduces the overall length to less than 660mm.
2. Air guns that meet the Criminal Code definition of a firearm, but are deemed not to be firearms for certain purposes of the Firearms Act and Criminal Code
These are air guns with a maximum muzzle velocity of 152.4 metres or 500 feet per second and/or a maximum muzzle energy of 5.7 joules or 4.2 foot-pounds. Such air guns are exempt from licensing, registration, and other requirements under the Firearms Act, and from penalties set out in the Criminal Code for possessing a firearm without a valid licence or registration certificate.
However, they are considered to be firearms under the Criminal Code if they are used to commit a crime. Anyone who uses such an air gun to commit a crime faces the same penalties as someone who uses a regular firearm.
The simple possession, acquisition and use of these air guns for lawful purposes are regulated more by provincial and municipal laws and by-laws than by federal law. For example, some provinces may have set a minimum age for acquiring such an air gun. For more information, please contact your local or provincial authorities.
These air guns are exempt from the specific safe storage, transportation and handling requirements set out in the regulations supporting the Firearms Act. However, the Criminal Code requires that reasonable precautions be taken to use, carry, handle, store, transport and ship them in a safe and secure manner.

mogaoku : 2014-09-24#15
你买的是气枪吧?你满18岁没?

everliu : 2014-09-24#16
听姐的话,好好给警察说,这只是玩具枪,千万别同警察争辩,还不还枪根本无所谓,千万别留下底案,影响移民及入籍;
胡说八道.屁事都没有的. 自己吓自己,神经病.
如没有拿着枪嘚瑟,只是如你说的打开看下,就打电话叫他们立即还玩具枪,少费话,就这样简单.
拿着枪嘚瑟了,就认倒霉吧.

wuxiaoxiao : 2014-09-24#17
坐车里能被警察看见?肯定拿着枪嘚瑟被警察看见了,要不就是别人报警了。

盈婆婆 : 2014-09-24#18
1.不要跟警察争辩,要让警察觉得你很无辜.要让警察同情你.理解你,才会站在你这边说话.
2.拿出沃尔玛的收据,证明你不是有意带在身上的,是刚买的,拿出来玩的.能在超市卖,你就觉得应该就是玩具,玩玩而已.其中可以拍拍警察马屁.比如,觉得警察工作很英雄阿.......所以喜欢这类玩具..
切忌,一定要冷静,态度好.不要疆起来,虽然不是你的责任,但多一事不如少一事.是吧.

大炜 : 2014-09-24#19
如果是玩具,没事,如果警察找你麻烦,你也可以上法庭上诉,保留好购买收据

tonis : 2014-09-24#20
我个人猜想,可能违法了,就像你可以买酒,但不能裸露酒瓶在街上显摆一样。未必人人知道你的是玩具枪,甚至会有警员错当真枪,把你先击毙。所以不应该在公众地方把玩玩具枪。当然,这是我的理解,我没有查code.

阿金哥 : 2014-09-25#21
  美国男子持BB枪逛沃尔玛遭误会被警察击毙


男子手持弹丸枪站在超市后部。

每日邮报报道,周三,美国俄亥俄州总检察长迈克-德瓦恩公布了一段监控视频,揭示了22岁男子约翰-克劳福德三世持玩具枪逛沃尔玛被警察击毙的过程。视频公布前,大陪审团曾判定警方击毙男子的行为合乎情理。

从视频中可以看到,在被击毙的前几分钟,克劳福德站在商店的后部,一手拿着一把弹丸枪,另一只手拿着手机在通话中。这一场景与罗纳德-里奇拨打911报警时所描述的情况相悖,他报警时说克劳福德在装枪并把枪口对准了别人。罗纳德称“他用枪指了两个孩子”,然而视频显示,一个女子和两个孩子走进了画面,但克劳福德并没有注意到他们。过了一会儿,两名警官的腿出现在另外一台监控器画面中,克劳福德被击中倒地,之后警官慢慢靠近。

公布的视频没有声音,警方称克劳福德没能遵守命令放下枪支,所以他们开了枪。但克劳福德的父亲表示,这是谋杀,“说两三次‘把武器放下’根本没有意义,因为克劳福德并没有反应,这不应该成为被击毙的理由。”

经过克劳福德家庭以及州议员阿莱西亚-里斯——他也是俄亥俄州立法机构黑人民权小组领袖——多方的努力要求,该视频才被公布。美国司法部已表示将调查此次击毙事件。

楼主应该感到庆辛。

睡猫 : 2014-09-25#22
什么样的玩具枪?最好有个图片,你以为是玩具,别人认为是仿真枪。

o2o2o2o2 : 2014-09-25#23
既然是商品玩具,怎么可能会有影响?:wdb2:
如果俺遇到此事,警察不归还的话,绝对找他们打官司,100%会赢的吧?:wdb43:

你要是找警察理论打官司,不关你1年有期徒刑,我把脑袋给你

o2o2o2o2 : 2014-09-25#24
简单的说,如果你买的是气枪,并且暴露在公共场合(警察能看到,那一定是暴露了),就违法。
refer:
Criminal Code - R.S.C., 1985, c. C-46 (Section 244.1)

icebluebear : 2014-09-25#25
你在walmart买的应该是CO2的玩具枪吧?这个和BBgun不同,枪口没有标志玩具用的红色,况且就算是BBgun,也不能随便在街上,在车里拿出来摆弄,这个有法律规定,不管在美国还是加拿大都一样,在美国的BBGun论坛曾经见过有人在车后座放了一把Mac11冲锋枪没有做任何遮盖,结果被人电话报警,最后还被起诉

四环胡同 : 2014-09-25#26
等结果

钢琴超市 : 2014-09-25#27
是不是你朋友把枪口对外,指过其他人了。
带真枪出门都是可以的,但是不能暴露出来,而且枪、弹要分离。当然你要有枪牌。
应该不会留案底的,即使警察起诉你了,你都还是不是crime,要法官说了才算。
但是如果你拿枪口对人了,就可能有一些麻烦。

外汇专家 : 2014-09-25#28
有后续吗?

wxd111 : 2014-09-25#29
庆幸吧,美国刚被毙了一个。

stang : 2014-09-25#30
沃尔玛买的那些个CO2气枪(长短都有)有的是要18岁的,楼主是不是不够年龄?
还有可能是在汽车里摆弄那玩意儿,好像这个动作违法。

stang : 2014-09-25#31
就是这个了,假枪也不能随便在公共场合展示。
若你打开车窗那那家伙指着人,吓也让你吓死:D:D

http://www.rcmp-grc.gc.ca/cfp-pcaf/fs-fd/replica-replique-eng.htm

TRANSPORTATION OF REPLICA FIREARMS
13. An individual may transport a replica firearm only if
(a) when the vehicle in which it is being transported is equipped with a trunk or similar compartment that can be securely locked, the replica firearm is in that trunk or compartment and the trunk or compartment is securely locked; and
(b) when the vehicle in which it is being transported is not equipped with a trunk or similar compartment that can be securely locked, the replica firearm is not visible from outside the vehicle and the vehicle, or the part of the vehicle that contains the replica firearm, is securely locked

fufu : 2014-09-25#32
啥理由都不用讲,拿着武器或类似武器的东西在街上被人看到,这种行为本身就不对,别说就警察,普通人看到你拿个枪也会害怕,别说什么玩具别人可不知道。

无尽的幽冥 : 2014-09-25#33
真是吃饱撑的,警察怀疑你想用玩具枪打劫
现在不是用香蕉就可以打劫了吗?以后香蕉会不会管制?

unicat : 2014-09-25#34
楼主烧高香吧,要在米国,可能还没走出沃尔玛就被警察毙了.

new_mic : 2014-09-25#35
楼主烧高香吧,要在米国,可能还没走出沃尔玛就被警察毙了.
误解美国了,美国联邦法律对气枪没有管制。在华州只是说不能在公共场所开枪,只有学校等特殊场所才有对气枪的规定。

There are no Federal laws about air guns. The Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, and Explosives states that:
“The term ‘firearm’ is defined in the Gun Control Act of 1968, 18 U.S.C. Section 921 (a) (3), to include ‘(A) any weapon (including a starter gun), which will, or is designed to or may readily be converted to expel a projectile by the action of an explosive; (B) the frame or receiver of any such weapon…’ Based on Section 921 (a) (3), air guns, because they use compressed air and not an explosive to expel a projectile, do not constitute firearms under Federal law – unless they are manufactured with the frames or receivers of an actual firearm. Accordingly, the domestic sale and possession of air guns is normally unregulated under the Federal firearms laws enforced by ATF.”
In Washington it is prohibited to willfully discharge an air gun in a public place, or at any place where a person could be endangered. They also prohibit someone from carrying or possessing an air pistol or air rifle that uses compressed air, carbon dioxide, or other gas at or in a public or private school, school bus, or any area used by a public or private school.
http://pelletgunzone.com/air-gun-laws/

H1N1 : 2014-09-27#36
很简单,根本就是不是玩具枪

Atlantic : 2014-09-27#37
你确定他说的玩具枪是汽枪?

估计警察在根据枪的威力找合适的法律. 按照下文的说法多半违反了某些法律

Air Guns http://www.rcmp-grc.gc.ca/cfp-pcaf/fs-fd/air_gun-arme_air-eng.htm

These air guns are exempt from the specific safe storage, transportation and handling requirements set out in the regulations supporting the Firearms Act. However, the Criminal Code requires that reasonable precautions be taken to use, carry, handle, store, transport and ship them in a safe and secure manner.

new_mic : 2014-09-29#38
你确定他说的玩具枪是汽枪?
都留学生了。难道买了水枪在车里还没到家就玩?

mary liu : 2014-09-30#39
Take it easy

benPeng : 2014-10-03#40
再去买一把,押押惊

new_mic : 2014-10-04#41
carlosforbbiden 最后露面: 8 天前

HD2012 : 2014-10-05#42
LZ恐怕表述上有隐瞒,所以我们只能猜测了。
但如果警察能看到枪的话,说明枪是可以看见的。前面网友贴的链接里,"place"也包括“or any motor vehicle”。
虽然这事可大可小,但我们需要严肃的当大事对待,这样可以避免出更大的麻烦。
不要随便听说一些人不负责任的随意瞎说。

外汇专家 : 2014-10-17#43
已经被抓起来了?