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加拿大CONDO公寓市场明年更火
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- 发布时间 2012-08-30
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抓住低利率的机会买房吧，否则连公寓都买不起了，真的就要在加拿大租一辈子房子了。
很多人，来了加拿大不买房，观望了两三年，回中国也买不起，在加拿大也买不起。
盼着房主低价出售自己的房子的想法太天真了。
如果公寓楼卖不出去，建筑商不会拼命盖房的。
抓住低利率的机会买房吧，否则连公寓都买不起了，真的就要在加拿大租一辈子房子了。
很多人，来了加拿大不买房，观望了两三年，回中国也买不起，在加拿大也买不起。
盼着房主低价出售自己的房子的想法太天真了。
如果公寓楼卖不出去，建筑商不会拼命盖房的。
回复: 加拿大CONDO公寓市场明年更火
从自身考虑出发吧
从自身考虑出发吧
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多伦多CONDO 去年升幅7.4%，涨幅过大，今年预计涨幅1.3%，明年预计涨幅2.5%，后年2.6%。多伦多CONDO中位价，以达到30万。CONDO 价格涨幅缩小的另一个原因是CONDO的单位面积在缩小， 2009年多伦多新建公寓的平均面积920平方尺，2012年，单位面积795平方尺。如果有人盼着CONDO市场崩溃，太难了。
《多伦多星报》
By Susan Pigg | Thu Aug 30 2012
Immigration, low rates to save Toronto condo market
Low interest rates, high immigration and downsizing baby boomers will keep the bottom from falling out of Toronto’s softening condo market, says a new report by the Conference Board of Canada.
New mortgage rules and modest economic growth are likely to result in a 1.2 per cent drop in condo sales this year and a 2.2 per cent drop in starts, which hit record levels earlier this year thanks to a record 28,000 sales last year.
But condo prices are forecast to rise just 1.3 per cent this year, their lowest increase since 1996 and a far cry from the 7.4 per cent jump recorded last year, which pushed the median price of a condo above $300,000 for the first time, notes the semi-annual Metropolitan Condo Outlook report.
Condo prices should rise about 2.5 per cent in 2013 and average 3.6 per cent per year from 2014 on, says the Conference Board study on behalf of Genworth Canada, the private sector mortgage insurance equivalent of the Canada Mortgage and Housing Corp.
“The market is poised for a slowdown, there’s no question about that,” says Conference Board senior economist Robin Wiebe, co-author of the report. “But it’s going to be gradual, not disorderly.”
That’s largely because single family homes have become so prohibitively expensive across the GTA ― they averaged more than $508,000 in July ― that condos have become the most affordable alternative for many of the 100,000 people a year who continue to migrate to the GTA from other cities, other provinces and other countries, says Wiebe.
At the same time, the first wave of baby boomers are just heading into their late 60s and many will be looking to cash out to low-maintenance condos, he notes.
While interest rates are likely to rise, off-setting some of the gains of softening prices, they should remain relatively low for the foreseeaable future, which will also help fuel condo sales, says Wiebe.
The inventory of unsold condos, which now stands at about 800 units across the GTA, is likely to grow by about 25 per cent as new buildings come on the market over the next two years, which could also keep prices relatively flat. But that unsold inventory is nothing compared to the peak, back in 1992, when there were 2,340 unsold condo units across the GTA, says Wiebe.
“Developers and bankers are looking at the same numbers we are and they can see all these condos under construction. I think they’re probably saying, ‘Maybe it’s time to just slow the pace (of new projects) a little bit for a while,’” says Wiebe.
The report looks at the condo markets of eight Canadian cities, five of which are expected to see a drop in starts this year (Toronto, Vancouver, Edmonton, Montreal and Quebec City.)
While most Canadian condo markets “appear destined to correct,” the most vulnerable is Vancouver, the report notes. Prices are likely to drop more than six per cent over the next two years as demand wanes and Asian investors take a break from what had been a frantic spree of real estate purchases.
多伦多CONDO 去年升幅7.4%，涨幅过大，今年预计涨幅1.3%，明年预计涨幅2.5%，后年2.6%。多伦多CONDO中位价，以达到30万。CONDO 价格涨幅缩小的另一个原因是CONDO的单位面积在缩小， 2009年多伦多新建公寓的平均面积920平方尺，2012年，单位面积795平方尺。如果有人盼着CONDO市场崩溃，太难了。
《多伦多星报》
By Susan Pigg | Thu Aug 30 2012
Immigration, low rates to save Toronto condo market
Low interest rates, high immigration and downsizing baby boomers will keep the bottom from falling out of Toronto’s softening condo market, says a new report by the Conference Board of Canada.
New mortgage rules and modest economic growth are likely to result in a 1.2 per cent drop in condo sales this year and a 2.2 per cent drop in starts, which hit record levels earlier this year thanks to a record 28,000 sales last year.
But condo prices are forecast to rise just 1.3 per cent this year, their lowest increase since 1996 and a far cry from the 7.4 per cent jump recorded last year, which pushed the median price of a condo above $300,000 for the first time, notes the semi-annual Metropolitan Condo Outlook report.
Condo prices should rise about 2.5 per cent in 2013 and average 3.6 per cent per year from 2014 on, says the Conference Board study on behalf of Genworth Canada, the private sector mortgage insurance equivalent of the Canada Mortgage and Housing Corp.
“The market is poised for a slowdown, there’s no question about that,” says Conference Board senior economist Robin Wiebe, co-author of the report. “But it’s going to be gradual, not disorderly.”
That’s largely because single family homes have become so prohibitively expensive across the GTA ― they averaged more than $508,000 in July ― that condos have become the most affordable alternative for many of the 100,000 people a year who continue to migrate to the GTA from other cities, other provinces and other countries, says Wiebe.
At the same time, the first wave of baby boomers are just heading into their late 60s and many will be looking to cash out to low-maintenance condos, he notes.
While interest rates are likely to rise, off-setting some of the gains of softening prices, they should remain relatively low for the foreseeaable future, which will also help fuel condo sales, says Wiebe.
The inventory of unsold condos, which now stands at about 800 units across the GTA, is likely to grow by about 25 per cent as new buildings come on the market over the next two years, which could also keep prices relatively flat. But that unsold inventory is nothing compared to the peak, back in 1992, when there were 2,340 unsold condo units across the GTA, says Wiebe.
“Developers and bankers are looking at the same numbers we are and they can see all these condos under construction. I think they’re probably saying, ‘Maybe it’s time to just slow the pace (of new projects) a little bit for a while,’” says Wiebe.
The report looks at the condo markets of eight Canadian cities, five of which are expected to see a drop in starts this year (Toronto, Vancouver, Edmonton, Montreal and Quebec City.)
While most Canadian condo markets “appear destined to correct,” the most vulnerable is Vancouver, the report notes. Prices are likely to drop more than six per cent over the next two years as demand wanes and Asian investors take a break from what had been a frantic spree of real estate purchases.
回复: 加拿大CONDO公寓市场明年更火
别人不懂行这么说也就算了，你是行家这么说明显误导别人，太不厚道。
1.3% / 2.5% / 2.6% 这也叫涨幅么，正常租房市场的房租上涨幅度是多少你不会不知道吧，工薪阶层每年正常工资涨幅是多少你不会不知道吧，整体经济通货膨胀率是多少你不会不知道吧。
玩数字游戏，大家都会的。
别人不懂行这么说也就算了，你是行家这么说明显误导别人，太不厚道。
1.3% / 2.5% / 2.6% 这也叫涨幅么，正常租房市场的房租上涨幅度是多少你不会不知道吧，工薪阶层每年正常工资涨幅是多少你不会不知道吧，整体经济通货膨胀率是多少你不会不知道吧。
玩数字游戏，大家都会的。
回复: 加拿大CONDO公寓市场明年更火
你说的我都同意
只有这句，我觉得恰好相反，Condo哪里有什么舒适度可言，上下左右都是别人家，你在家里跳一下还要考虑会不会被投诉，当然是House更自由舒服。
你说的我都同意
只有这句，我觉得恰好相反，Condo哪里有什么舒适度可言，上下左右都是别人家，你在家里跳一下还要考虑会不会被投诉，当然是House更自由舒服。
回复: 加拿大CONDO公寓市场明年更火
WAIT AND SEE!
WAIT AND SEE!
回复: 加拿大CONDO公寓市场明年更火
呵呵，我说的舒适度比较适合单身和中老年人，主要是生活比较简单，我有个西人朋友说她年轻时候喜欢house,可是发现自己只是房子的奴隶，维护，卫生，供款还是比较辛苦，所以她现在年龄大了就只选择CONDO了，而且比较享受这种轻松的生活方式。
当然了，如果家里有小孩子的话，现在加拿大的小CONDO让他们活动起来是局限了。
呵呵，我说的舒适度比较适合单身和中老年人，主要是生活比较简单，我有个西人朋友说她年轻时候喜欢house,可是发现自己只是房子的奴隶，维护，卫生，供款还是比较辛苦，所以她现在年龄大了就只选择CONDO了，而且比较享受这种轻松的生活方式。
当然了，如果家里有小孩子的话，现在加拿大的小CONDO让他们活动起来是局限了。
你说的我都同意
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这里的数据都是公开的，谁都看得清楚，如果是被误导了，也是自己的事。不是谁说房价要涨，就是要误导别人。反而几年来一直说房价要跌的人误导了别人。
多伦多的CONDO目前对投资者来说没有太大吸引力，这篇报道我们转发在这个论坛里了。http://forum.iask.ca/showthread.php?t=589878
如果CONDO每年只升值2%，那么与银行的GIC收益率差不多了，但流动性差很多。这个数字谈不上是什么数字游戏，大家都看得清楚。 但是，投资CONDO的人是不会用100%现金去买投资房的，从税务和收益率两方面来说都没有吸引力。如果贷款80%，首付20%，则投资收益会有4倍的杠杆作用。其实，这也算不上数字游戏，太简单了。
这个帖子我只是引用了主流媒体的两篇报道，并没有我太多的个人意见。
如果问我的个人意见，我觉得，如果是买CONDO做自住房，早买为好，因为房价整体趋势还会上涨，起码中位价还在不断抬高。 如果是投资，对于我来说没有吸引力。如果有闲着资金，我宁愿去换更大的独立屋做自住房。
每个人的情况不同，看问题的角度不一样，如果有人认为把房价下跌的消息带给大家的都是好人，把房价上涨信息带给大家的都没良心，那么这个市场就是最没良心的，可谁也左右不了市场的作用。
一个帖子，仁者见仁，智者见智。别把自己看太好，也把别人想太坏。市场会给一个公平的结果的。
这里的数据都是公开的，谁都看得清楚，如果是被误导了，也是自己的事。不是谁说房价要涨，就是要误导别人。反而几年来一直说房价要跌的人误导了别人。
多伦多的CONDO目前对投资者来说没有太大吸引力，这篇报道我们转发在这个论坛里了。http://forum.iask.ca/showthread.php?t=589878
如果CONDO每年只升值2%，那么与银行的GIC收益率差不多了，但流动性差很多。这个数字谈不上是什么数字游戏，大家都看得清楚。 但是，投资CONDO的人是不会用100%现金去买投资房的，从税务和收益率两方面来说都没有吸引力。如果贷款80%，首付20%，则投资收益会有4倍的杠杆作用。其实，这也算不上数字游戏，太简单了。
这个帖子我只是引用了主流媒体的两篇报道，并没有我太多的个人意见。
如果问我的个人意见，我觉得，如果是买CONDO做自住房，早买为好，因为房价整体趋势还会上涨，起码中位价还在不断抬高。 如果是投资，对于我来说没有吸引力。如果有闲着资金，我宁愿去换更大的独立屋做自住房。
每个人的情况不同，看问题的角度不一样，如果有人认为把房价下跌的消息带给大家的都是好人，把房价上涨信息带给大家的都没良心，那么这个市场就是最没良心的，可谁也左右不了市场的作用。
一个帖子，仁者见仁，智者见智。别把自己看太好，也把别人想太坏。市场会给一个公平的结果的。
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银行杠杆是一把双刃剑
银行杠杆是一把双刃剑
回复: 加拿大CONDO公寓市场明年更火
condo也有超级舒适的。看看一些岛上价格不菲的270度河景公寓，明亮、宽敞、窗外风光无限，公寓楼还有室内游泳池、健身房，比一些年代久远的独立屋不知道要舒适多少！而且如果是水泥结构的公寓，隔音都很好的。有些公寓的价格比独立屋还高，还有市场，就说明了问题。
你说的我都同意
condo也有超级舒适的。看看一些岛上价格不菲的270度河景公寓，明亮、宽敞、窗外风光无限，公寓楼还有室内游泳池、健身房，比一些年代久远的独立屋不知道要舒适多少！而且如果是水泥结构的公寓，隔音都很好的。有些公寓的价格比独立屋还高，还有市场，就说明了问题。
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你说对了，发帖自然带有目的，哪怕是吸引眼球也是目的，不然谁吃饱了撑的发帖子。
楼主开贴的文字表达和他上面解释的帖子，说数字游戏不准确，应该说是文字游戏，话不说明，意思在哪儿放着，等你提出反对意见，马上来一个解释，你还说不出啥毛病。
你说对了，发帖自然带有目的，哪怕是吸引眼球也是目的，不然谁吃饱了撑的发帖子。
楼主开贴的文字表达和他上面解释的帖子，说数字游戏不准确，应该说是文字游戏，话不说明，意思在哪儿放着，等你提出反对意见，马上来一个解释，你还说不出啥毛病。
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哈哈，抬扛了吧
按照你的话说，那house里面还有“超级舒适”的呢，我经常在google地图上看那种上千万的大豪宅，很想知道里面到底住了几号人。
哈哈，抬扛了吧
按照你的话说，那house里面还有“超级舒适”的呢，我经常在google地图上看那种上千万的大豪宅，很想知道里面到底住了几号人。
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我有投资，我希望明年少涨，后年开始大涨，因为明年底我才能收房呢！
我有投资，我希望明年少涨，后年开始大涨，因为明年底我才能收房呢！
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