父母团聚移民后医疗和老人金的问题

[hankgong]

记得几年前看到说13年以后的团聚移民医疗有一些限制，老人金领取的资格也是从10年改称20年。我在网上搜了一下没找到官方说法，能有人给个确定的说法吗？

 

[meimei99]

记得几年前看到说13年以后的团聚移民医疗有一些限制，老人金领取的资格也是从10年改称20年。我在网上搜了一下没找到官方说法，能有人给个确定的说法吗？

担保从十年改成了二十年

 

[hankgong]

担保从十年改成了二十年

官方网站上面能找到说明吗？我找不到

 

[happyny]

退休金跟担保没关系，只跟在加拿大住后十年有关，就算你是技术移民，在加拿大住不够十年也没。

 

[家园小千]

退休金跟担保没关系，只跟在加拿大住后十年有关，就算你是技术移民，在加拿大住不够十年也没。

子女担保的团聚父母，即使住满10年也没有养老金，住满20年后可以。

 

[hankgong]

子女担保的团聚父母，即使住满10年也没有养老金，住满20年后可以。

英文网站上找不到这个说法呀!

2. Eligibility
Your employment history is not a factor in determining eligibility: you can receive the Old Age Security (OAS) pension even if you have never worked or are still working.
If you are living in Canada, you must:

• be 65 years old or older;
• be a Canadian citizen or a legal resident at the time we approve your OAS pension application; and
• have resided in Canada for at least 10 years since the age of 18.

If you are living outside Canada, you must:

• be 65 years old or older;
• have been a Canadian citizen or a legal resident of Canada on the day before you left Canada; and
• have resided in Canada for at least 20 years since the age of 18.

If neither of the above scenarios applies to you, you may still qualify for an OAS pension, a pension from another country or from both countries if you have:

• lived in one of the countries with which Canada has established a social security agreement; or
• contributed to the social security system of one of the countries with which Canada has established a social security agreement.

For more information, see Lived or living outside Canada.

 

[家园小千]

@哈法
老移民知道这个规定吗？

 

[hankgong]

我又查了一下当年康尼部长的原文，当时的词是Sponsorship commitment period, 然后确实可以在网站上找到financially responsible的期限对父母移民是20年。我的理解是如果父母需要吃救济这样的社会福利，加拿大在20年内是不会出的，老人金OAS应该不在救济的范围内。

How long am I financially responsible for the family member or relative I sponsor?
To become a sponsor, you must promise to financially take care of the persons you are sponsoring for a period of time. We call this promise an undertaking.
The “length of undertaking” is the time period you’re financially responsible for the person you sponsor. It starts on the day the person you sponsor becomes a permanent resident.
The length of undertaking depends on:

• the age of the person you sponsor
• their relationship to you, and
• Where you live. The length of undertaking for residents of Quebec is slightly different

You are still financially responsible even if:

• Your relationship with the person you sponsored changes (for example, divorce or separation).
• The person you sponsored becomes a Canadian citizen.
• Your financial situation gets worse (for example, job loss or debt).
• You sent us a request to withdraw your sponsorship application and we received it after the person you sponsored has become a permanent resident.

Person you sponsor Length of undertaking for all provinces except QuebecFootnote1 Spouse, common-law partner or conjugal partner 3 yearsDependent child (biological or adopted) or child to be adopted in Canada under 22 years of ageFootnote2 10 years, or until age 25, whichever comes firstDependent child 22 years of age or olderFootnote2 3 yearsParent or grandparent 20 yearsOther relative 10 years

但是我又查了一下老年低保补助GIS，大概GIS在20年之内不能拿，因为20年属于sponsorship period。
2. Eligibility
You qualify for the GIS if you meet all of the following conditions:

• you are receiving an Old Age Security pension; and
• your annual income (or in the case of a couple, your combined income) is lower than the maximum annual threshold.

Using your income information from your federal Income Tax and Benefit Return, we will review your eligibility for the GIS every year. If you still qualify, your benefit will be automatically renewed. In July, you will receive a letter telling you:

• that your benefit will be renewed;
• that your benefit will be stopped; or
• that your income information is required.

Sponsored immigrants
If you are a sponsored immigrant and you have resided in Canada less than 10 years after age 18, you are not eligible to receive an OAS income-tested benefit (the GIS, the Allowance or the Allowance for the Survivor) during your sponsorship period unless your sponsor:

• suffers personal bankruptcy;
• is imprisoned for more than six months;
• is convicted of abusing you; or
• dies.

 

[哈法]

@哈法
老移民知道这个规定吗？

我不清楚父母团聚的规定。

 

[Horse Dragoon]

跟担保没有关系。

只要是移民，累计住满10年，年满65岁就有养老金拿， 我父母住的康都里很多这样的团聚移民老人都拿了养老金。

楼上有说拿 退休金 是错的。

 

[Horse Dragoon]

过去是要自己申请拿养老金， 后来改了， 政府会主动发给你。

 

[Orlean]

Jason Kenney, May 2013:
https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/don-t-bring-parents-here-for-welfare-kenney-says-1.1351002

Bill C-31, comments in June 2014:
http://incomesecurity.org/policy-advocacy/immigrant-seniors-and-federal-oas-changes/

 

[xxddpp]

好像住在美国等同于住在加拿大

 

[dingc2008]

跟担保没有关系。

只要是移民，累计住满10年，年满65岁就有养老金拿， 我父母住的康都里很多这样的团聚移民老人都拿了养老金。

楼上有说拿 退休金 是错的。

担保期为20年的人不可能这么早就拿到养老金了吧？新的父母团聚移民政策规定担保期为20年，这些人群都是最近几年过来的，不可能已经累计住满了10年，所以说你父母的邻居都拿到了养老金与此情况不同。