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我是如何在移民第三年找到政府工作的

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Hi Mark,

Thanks for the great article for those people want to squeeze into the government.

But I have been doing the contractor for federal government for more than 10 years, but still DO WANT to be a government employees.

Here are the main reasons:
1) government jobs 不是铁饭碗
Federal government on track to cut 35,000 public service jobs
Published on: August 27, 2014 | Last Updated: August 27, 2014 9:31 AM EDT
http://ottawacitizen.com/news/national/federal-government-on-track-to-cut-35000-public-service-jobs

Therefore, I will vote for Conservative to shred off that many government people do nothing.

2) The truth of Most Chinese in the government
a) Since Chinese cannot speak French, Chinese cannot be even a team leader.

b) Highest salary of most Chinese is 80K in their lives since CS-02 is within $60K - $80K. Most Chinese are CS-02 (intermediate) And in order to get into the Government, a lot of Chinese want only ask for 60K.
This actually give me a stroke since I thought a lot of Chinese can make more than $90K until a friend of mine who used to be a contractor was hired by Government for the motivation of his wife.

c) The benefits of government employees are great, but it depends upon the high tax of your income. Therefore, a lot of them are 月光族。

d) A lot of Chinese even want to start at CS-01 ($40K - $60K junior) after an intern at government from Algonquin College

3) government 是大锅饭
Your performance will ONLY be appreciated when more work will be assigned to you next run in the team under the Team Work Policy.
Therefore, nobody really wants to work hard since there is no benefits.

4) Government let people be sluggard
Therefore, many people change to be analyst, QA, technical advisor after short time, but cannot do the real work. Therefore, they have to hire the real people with true skills

5) Many government people cannot think much
There are some very talented and high skilled people in government, but that only counts about 10%. But since a lot of Chinese are forced to learn IT to make a living, they are not in that 10%.
Also, most people are doing like a machine (simple and repeating) work in a very small field, they cannot think much
 
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a) Since Chinese cannot speak French, Chinese cannot be even a team leader.



可是联邦政府从美国请来的高级人才做team leader的太多了。他们法语还不如华人。
 
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我給大家泼点冷水
加拿大政府工作狗屎一堆
大家可以到glassdoor上看看就知道了
评价有多么低多么差劲
大家羡慕政府工作
是因为加拿大工作不好找
另外是因为中国式思维导致的
中国政府工作好其实是因为有权和隐形收入
加拿大政府工作可以说差到令人恶心的地步
尤其欺负新人
我对加拿大政府工作的人表示强烈鄙视!

当然了 在一个国家经济很差的时候
政府工作相对稳定
尽管官僚主义严重
内部歧视严重
办公设施落后
毫无职业发展前景
相对来说还算大家羡慕的了

一个国家政府工作那么多人羡慕
证明这个国家狗屎 毫无希望
垃圾国家

1. 政府工比在大统华打labor工好
2. 英文不好,找不到专业工,如果能找到政府工当然好。
3. 大多数移民年龄大了,到67岁退休很多工作做不动了。政府工可以轻轻松松混到退休。
4,当然,年轻人有好 的机会,可以不考虑政府工。
 
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我在一个帖子里面简略地谈了谈我是如何找到政府工作的。现在把这个内容单独拿出来,开一个新帖,希望给各位有所启发。

我鼓励我们华人移民多申请政府工作。个人认为还是挺好的。加拿大本地人也将进入政府工作作为第一选择

政府工作并不是高不可攀。关键是看你的专业、经验、个性是否适合在政府上班。

我的背景是IT,英语可谓很好。2003刚来的时候,工作极不好找,从没有想到去政府找工作,担心本地文凭啦,经验啦,要不要公民啦,等等。后来打工一年,读本地文聘10个月,拿了个diploma,2004年5月还没有毕业,就找到了工作。

后来,我的一个邻居找到了RCMP的文职工作,我看他都想偶像一样。他干了两年就升到管理层了。现在还是我的偶像。

他给我传授一些经验,由此我知道政府工作都是在网上公开贴出来,符合要求的人都可以申请。 过了半年,另一个邻居找到一个市政府的engineering工作。我彻底崩溃,将政府工作当做下一步的目标。

我找到了我所在省省政府的贴工作的网站、各个市政府贴工作的网页,天天看。 对政府找什么样的人有了了解。直到半年后,一个工作职位出来,与我当时干的几乎一摸一样。但还是没有胆量申请。又过了两个月,我看见同样的职位又贴出来。 我太太鼓励我申请。面试,很好。第二天早上,收到电话,要查reference,通过,中午请同事吃了一顿饭。正在吃,电话又来了,问我是否接受这个 offer。当然了,激动地接受了。后来问supervisor,他们第一次贴出来,没有找到合适的人,以为是工资太低,就将工资提高一档,再贴出来。我 当然就是合适的人选了,因为和我当时干的工作极为匹配。感谢神,我在第三年就进了政府,到现在我也感觉没有比这更适合我的工作了。

现在已经干了四年多,中间申请政府更高级别的工作,也拿到了,级别上还是比较高的了。我的意思是,刚开始进来政府工作时,级别低一点没关系,进来以后工作几年,机会应该不少。

我周围有很多朋友在政府上班,有IT的,help desk,会计,business analyst,开发员,economist,联邦政府的,省政府的,市政府的,还有国营企业(crown corporation)等等。有英语 好的,也有英语一般的。有技术好的,也有技术一般的。但是,技术太好的可能不合适,政府不像公司,在技术方面不会给你太多的成就感。我认为好的地方是将来退休有养老金,工作时间较为灵活,很多人都有flex day,适合家庭主妇或煮男。

现在经济危机,好多省政府几乎不招人。一旦经济形式好了,赶紧抓住机会就进去,站住一个坑。我周围的好多中国移民都是2005 - 2008之间进去的。

我根据我找工作的经验,做了这个网站,里面有加拿大所有各级政府的网站和工作网页链接,包括联邦政府、省政府、各省的市政府,还有联邦和各省的crown corporation,就是联邦和省设立的国营企业,像水电、彩票等公司,福利工资与政府很接近,应该都是工会的。

Canada Job Links http://www.job-link.ca

[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif][SIZE=+1]Canada Government Job Links[/SIZE][/FONT]
Canada Federal Government
Canada Federal Crown Corporations
Canada Provincial Government
Ontario Municipal Government
Alberta Municipal Government
BC Municipal Government
Manitoba Municipal Government
New Brunswick Municipal Government
Nova Scotia Municipal Government
Prince Edward Island Municipal Government
Saskatchewan Municipal Government
NL Municipal Government
Territories Municipal Government

Crown Corporations
Ontario Crown Corporations
BC Crown Corporations
Saskatchewan Crown Corporations
Alberta Crown Corporations
Manitoba Crown Corporations
New Brunswick Crown Corporations
Prince Edward Island Crown Corporations
Nova Scotia Crown Corporations
NL Crown Corporations
Territories Crown Corporations
看来是真的。
 
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Respond: Nebula.Trek
Most management positions are governed by the people from Quebec (they cannot speak very good English) due to the Quebec Independence incident.

Canadian government and people really hate to be compared with USA. Therefore, they only hire very few top level talents from USA, like the previous host of CBC's National program.
Also, American can learn French much faster than Chinese due to the same western linguistic system, just like Chinese can learn Japanese faster than Western people
 
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I personally don't want to deprecate either labor work or government employees.
In the western point of views, anyone doing a job is equal as long as you are passionate of your work. There is no difference.
I have done the labor work (现在的肩肘炎就是病根) 20 years ago also, and my wife works at the federal government.

But in this capitalism world, most labor work cannot gain money very efficiently. However, in Canada, the current $15 per hour minimum wage means $30K annual income, not much difference from $40K annual come before tax.
 

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