对土豆的重大打击,自由党大选要够呛了

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也有一个可能性,这位JWR女士是因什么要求未被满足,说谎了。目前没有硬证据,而且小杜否认该女士的攻击。
咱支持RCMP介入,让事实来说明是否该女士诽谤,政坛还是常见类似风波的。

看了她昨天的作证吗?她的作证一出来,就我今天听到的电台,和网上看的,没有一个人质疑,说她说谎的。可以说对话双方可能有误解,但说她说谎,抹黑她,是危机公关大忌。

她自己就是律师,估计被施压得有所准备,作证内容有详尽的邮件,短信,日程记录,现在没说,但我高度怀疑甚至有录音,如果逼出来,就不好看了。

前attorney general作证时候多次被问到,她自己都说,她不认为是犯罪,但是是inappropriate...所以RCMP 调查有点然并卵,估计也出不来谁有罪,现在就看,选民对inappropriate 的接受度多大了。

她已经是attorney general,做律师能做到的最高位置了,又在内阁,你说她还想问土豆要啥?她想让土豆下来。自己当总理?
 
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我听说在加拿大未经允许,是不准录音的。。。。

如果录音可被定罪,当然这个是我在网上看到的,不确定。。。


如果真是这样的话,我想作为律师的王,是不会去录音的。。。。。
在加拿大, 当事人录音, 是合法的,
无关人士, 偷录别人说话, 是非法的
 
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我听说在加拿大未经允许,是不准录音的。。。。

如果录音可被定罪,当然这个是我在网上看到的,不确定。。。


如果真是这样的话,我想作为律师的王,是不会去录音的。。。。。

你说的录音是私密录音吧。。。

我觉得是指未经当事人许可,录音不足以让成为呈堂证供。。。不能证人有罪,但可以自证没有撒谎。。。而且一旦出来,选民自有判断。。

和床铺闹翻那个白宫女黑人顾问,奥马罗莎在白宫全程录音,和床铺开会都录音,也电台放,没见她掉一根毛。。。

我昨天半路听的,在国会作证说谎是罪,这次司法部长是under oath 吗?要不,土豆和她,双双testify under oath,说谎的跟床铺律师那样,坐牢。。。潮退了,就知道谁在裸泳,我看好土豆。
 
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你的这个说法有法律依据吗?


我在网上看到一个案例是当事人未经允许,

也不能录音,否则是违法的。。。。。
这里有篇文章, 他说的都有后边有依据注解,文章比较长, 我只贴一段, 关心的话, 可以打开连接, 看全文
https://langlois.ca/words-fade-away-recordings-remain-admissibility-evidence-audio-video-recordings/

Words Fade Away, but Recordings Remain: the Admissibility into Evidence of Audio and Video Recordings

September 28, 2017


1. Introduction
The extraordinary advances in technology over the last decade have made it increasingly difficult to determine where the right to privacy begins and ends. Through the lens of a cellular phone, the watchful eye of a surveillance camera or the inquisitive ear of a hidden microphone, this fundamental right appears to be increasingly eroded. Today a conversation can be routinely recorded without any particularly sophisticated or cumbersome equipment. In civil law however, many questions remain about the extent to which one’s privacy can be thus invaded.
2. The general principle: admissibility

The search for the truth is the essence of any judicial proceeding: “Evidence of any fact relevant to a dispute is admissible and may be produced by any means”1. This principle is the basis for the general rule that all relevant evidence should be disclosed2. However, applying that principle fully can adversely impact fundamental human rights, particularly the constitutionally protected right to privacy3. And that is why the rule is subject to several exceptions, including that limiting the admissibility into evidence of recordings in certain circumstances.
 
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白宫黑人顾问和床铺的事,是美国的事,不是加拿大。。。。



我在网上看到过一个加拿大的案例。。。。。

是当事人在学校被欺负,学生妈妈让孩子在学校录音,

结果妈妈违反了私自录音一事,最后被判入狱。。。。

美英体系的确有不一样的地方,但我觉得录音这款,应该是类似的,撒哥也给了链接,不过我没看,欢迎法律人士指正。

你这个例子是不是有因为涉及未成年人的缘故?具体例子可能情况有不同。。
 
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你那个链接长的我没看。。。。

你贴的这个短的,大概说的是录音可以做为证据吧?

而什么情况下可以去录音,而且不违法却没有提吧?
i. Recording with the knowledge of one of the participants


Quebec courts unanimously recognize that a person may record his or her conversation with someone else without having to inform the latter that the conversation is being recorded. For example, the filing into evidence of a recording will be allowed in the following situations:


  • a person who feels fleeced by a co-contractor records their verbal exchanges in order to obtain an admission11;
  • a tenant films her landlord while the latter is in her apartment, without informing him that he is on camera12;
  • a resident of a long-term care facility installs cameras in her room – without informing the institution’s staff – in order to preserve evidence of any mistreatment13.
 

shi-ma-he

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咱一贯认为,在类似加拿大这种选举式的民主体制下,如果在野一方有丑闻实证,一定会一举拿出来打击执行一方的。不公布于众,演绎的成分就很大。
咱再接着看,现在定论为时过早,看有什么能披露到媒体再说。
保守党和NDP都建议警方调查取证及听证辩真伪,咱网上倾向强的lD们看来倒是急忙忙早给下定论了。
 
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咱一贯认为,在类似加拿大这种选举式的民主体制下,如果在野一方有丑闻实证,一定会一举拿出来打击执行一方的。不公布于众,演绎的成分就很大。
咱再接着看,现在定论为时过早,看有什么能披露到媒体再说。
保守党和NDP都建议警方调查取证及听证辩真伪,咱网上倾向强的lD们看来倒是急忙忙早给下定论了。
又不花他们自己的钱, 建议还不容易,
 
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这条好像还是不能确定吧
我把整个184都给贴上了, 还不确定的话, 只能让法院确定了,

https://laws-lois.justice.gc.ca/eng/acts/c-46/section-184.html
Interception

  • 184 (1) Every one who, by means of any electro-magnetic, acoustic, mechanical or other device, wilfully intercepts a private communication is guilty of an indictable offence and liable to imprisonment for a term not exceeding five years.
  • Marginal note:Saving provision
    (2) Subsection (1) does not apply to
    • (a) a person who has the consent to intercept, express or implied, of the originator of the private communication or of the person intended by the originator thereof to receive it;
    • (b) a person who intercepts a private communication in accordance with an authorization or pursuant to section 184.4 or any person who in good faith aids in any way another person who the aiding person believes on reasonable grounds is acting with an authorization or pursuant to section 184.4;
    • (c) a person engaged in providing a telephone, telegraph or other communication service to the public who intercepts a private communication,
      • (i) if the interception is necessary for the purpose of providing the service,
      • (ii) in the course of service observing or random monitoring necessary for the purpose of mechanical or service quality control checks, or
      • (iii) if the interception is necessary to protect the person’s rights or property directly related to providing the service;
    • (d) an officer or servant of Her Majesty in right of Canada who engages in radio frequency spectrum management, in respect of a private communication intercepted by that officer or servant for the purpose of identifying, isolating or preventing an unauthorized or interfering use of a frequency or of a transmission; or
    • (e) a person, or any person acting on their behalf, in possession or control of a computer system, as defined in subsection 342.1(2), who intercepts a private communication originating from, directed to or transmitting through that computer system, if the interception is reasonably necessary for
      • (i) managing the quality of service of the computer system as it relates to performance factors such as the responsiveness and capacity of the system as well as the integrity and availability of the system and data, or
      • (ii) protecting the computer system against any act that would be an offence under subsection 342.1(1) or 430(1.1).
  • Marginal note:Use or retention
    (3) A private communication intercepted by a person referred to in paragraph (2)(e) can be used or retained only if
    • (a) it is essential to identify, isolate or prevent harm to the computer system; or
    • (b) it is to be disclosed in circumstances referred to in subsection 193(2).
  • R.S., 1985, c. C-46, s. 184;
  • 1993, c. 40, s. 3;
  • 2004, c. 12, s. 4.
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凡哥真是双标死了。。

这公司面对的是联邦层面的起诉,输了不过是被罚死,和工作机会有毛关系?他威胁说要搬安省伦敦去,难道搬伦敦去联邦就不搞它了?我要是杀个人,我搬温哥华去,你就不查我了?

再说了,搬伦敦又不是搬国外,人可以跟着去。他总要雇人,魁省有人失业,安省工作机会就增加了,工作机会内部流动而已,为什么魁省的工作机会就这么重要,重要到值得执政党干预司法,你是魁省的总理还是加拿大的总理呢。。

这个保护就业机会,和抓孟晚舟嚷嚷,我们加拿大政府不干预司法一样,都是高大上的瞎扯。。。
罚死了,工作机会就暂时消失了。不光是罚钱的问题,主要是市场准入的问题,就不让蓝湾林参与政府工程竞标了。
 

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