地下室装修费用及building permit value与实际价格的大概比例关系

刚买了房子想装修地下室。大概1000-1200平尺的面积。之前询问了中介,说一般装修地下室大概要3万元左右。西人同事推荐了一家装修公司,不是那种大公司。属于个人开的小型装修公司。初步询价说大概要5万元包括2个bedroom, 1个bathroom, 1个family room 带wet bar, in-floor heating, HRV, central air conditioning. 不知道这个报价是否有些高。这家公司发给了我一份他们去年底做的地下室装修合同价格明细供参考(没有签名的)。1550平尺的面积,6万3总价。可是我在政府网站上查到这个地下室装修的building permit上面的value是3万2。不知道为什么会相差近1倍。

请问各位有这方面经验的朋友,怎样通过比较相似面积的building permit上的value来估算装修公司的报价是否合理呢?
 
刚买了房子想装修地下室。大概1000-1200平尺的面积。之前询问了中介,说一般装修地下室大概要3万元左右。西人同事推荐了一家装修公司,不是那种大公司。属于个人开的小型装修公司。初步询价说大概要5万元包括2个bedroom, 1个bathroom, 1个family room 带wet bar, in-floor heating, HRV, central air conditioning. 不知道这个报价是否有些高。这家公司发给了我一份他们去年底做的地下室装修合同价格明细供参考(没有签名的)。1550平尺的面积,6万3总价。可是我在政府网站上查到这个地下室装修的building permit上面的value是3万2。不知道为什么会相差近1倍。

请问各位有这方面经验的朋友,怎样通过比较相似面积的building permit上的value来估算装修公司的报价是否合理呢?

说说看你的房子价值多少?
我家的地下室(700尺),2个卧室一卫生间一厨房,花了$18000,是白人老外做的。有一家公司给我报价$5.6万。现在租金$1200
 
价钱很合理了。permit上的value是申请时自己随便填的,一般都填低一点,以免政府加太多地税。填表时工作人员会告诉你说这个数字是做统计用的,至于政府会不会用这个数字来加税那是另外一回事了。
 
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Why Does a New Home in Ottawa Cost so Much?
Did you know the average new single family home in Ottawa costs $440,100? Ottawa’s homebuilders build 5,000 to 6,000 new homes per year, and we often get asked “why does a new home cost so much?” That’s why we’ve created this handy infographic which tells the story at a glance.
1. The Supply of Land is Limited and Price of Land is Rising
At present, the cost of serviced land for a 2,000 sq. ft. single home is approximately $115,700.
On average, the price of serviced land outside Ottawa’s Greenbelt is 26% of the total cost of a new single family house. The price of land is at an all-time high in Ottawa today! One of the principle factors behind the price is the City of Ottawa’s intensification policy which promotes homebuilding within the Greenbelt and limits the expansion of the urban boundary. When you restrict supply and demand holds firm, prices will go up.
Many of Ottawa’s smaller and mid-sized homebuilders pay a premium to purchase serviced lots from larger land development and building companies. Unfortunately this practice is rapidly disappearing with intensification. In Ottawa today, there is no additional land available, and the larger land development companies are no longer willing to sell serviced lots. The result is that many of Ottawa’s small- and medium-sized builders have been building forced outside of the city, or have gone out of business, as the supply of land becomes increasingly restricted.
2. Government Fees and Taxes are Growing at an Alarming Rate
Government fees, charges and taxes at the federal, provincial and municipal levels average 23% of the total home price ($98,312).
In Ottawa, anyone who buys a new home outside of the Greenbelt (i.e. Kanata, Barrhaven, Orleans) pays up to 31,000 in development charges to the City of Ottawa. The homebuilder pays this fee prior to building the home, and then includes it in the new home sale price. Development charges cover the cost of additional city infrastructure and services related to the new home. This fee does not cover the utilities (curbs, sidewalks, heat, hydro, streetlights, transit and roads) for the new house – the homebuilder pays for these, and then includes it in the new home sale price.
Other government fees include building permit fees, which average $2,400 for a 2,000 square foot home. Homebuilders also pay provincial land transfer taxes and the HST on all building supplies and labour. These fees and taxes comprise on average 17% of the cost of a new home or $73,000 on a $440,902 home.
3. Construction Costs are One-Third of the Cost of a New Home
The construction costs incurred to build a 2,000 sq. ft. house average $151,000 or 34% of the total cost.
It is interesting to note that the actual construction costs have remained relatively constant over the past 10 years due to advances made in new technology and materials. Construction costs are those of the building materials, equipment and labour required to build the house. One of the great stories is that while labour costs have risen, the homebuilding industry has been able to build homes that are much more energy efficient and design-friendly without increasing construction costs to the homebuyer.
4. Business Operations Comprise 11% of the Cost of a New Home
Most new homebuyers who visit an average of 8-10 model homes before buying, will recognize that there is a substantial cost to builders during the ‘sales and marketing’ phase of any project. On top of these costs, homebuilders incur general and administrative costs needed to operate a business and, perhaps more importantly, allow homebuilders to employ 25,000 Ottawans working in the homebuilding industry.
5. On Average a Homebuilder will earn a 6% Profit on a New Home
On a 2,000 sq. ft. home built outside Ottawa’s Greenbelt, a homebuilder will earn a profit of $26,700.
While this may seem like a lot, it is important to keep in mind that it takes a homebuilder three to five years to build a home from planning and permitting to finish. In most cases that homebuilder has owned the land for five to ten years before the planning process started so spread over time, actual profits could be a fraction of a per cent per year.
 
Why Does a New Home in Ottawa Cost so Much?
Did you know the average new single family home in Ottawa costs $440,100? Ottawa’s homebuilders build 5,000 to 6,000 new homes per year, and we often get asked “why does a new home cost so much?” That’s why we’ve created this handy infographic which tells the story at a glance.
1. The Supply of Land is Limited and Price of Land is Rising
At present, the cost of serviced land for a 2,000 sq. ft. single home is approximately $115,700.
On average, the price of serviced land outside Ottawa’s Greenbelt is 26% of the total cost of a new single family house. The price of land is at an all-time high in Ottawa today! One of the principle factors behind the price is the City of Ottawa’s intensification policy which promotes homebuilding within the Greenbelt and limits the expansion of the urban boundary. When you restrict supply and demand holds firm, prices will go up.
Many of Ottawa’s smaller and mid-sized homebuilders pay a premium to purchase serviced lots from larger land development and building companies. Unfortunately this practice is rapidly disappearing with intensification. In Ottawa today, there is no additional land available, and the larger land development companies are no longer willing to sell serviced lots. The result is that many of Ottawa’s small- and medium-sized builders have been building forced outside of the city, or have gone out of business, as the supply of land becomes increasingly restricted.
2. Government Fees and Taxes are Growing at an Alarming Rate
Government fees, charges and taxes at the federal, provincial and municipal levels average 23% of the total home price ($98,312).
In Ottawa, anyone who buys a new home outside of the Greenbelt (i.e. Kanata, Barrhaven, Orleans) pays up to 31,000 in development charges to the City of Ottawa. The homebuilder pays this fee prior to building the home, and then includes it in the new home sale price. Development charges cover the cost of additional city infrastructure and services related to the new home. This fee does not cover the utilities (curbs, sidewalks, heat, hydro, streetlights, transit and roads) for the new house – the homebuilder pays for these, and then includes it in the new home sale price.
Other government fees include building permit fees, which average $2,400 for a 2,000 square foot home. Homebuilders also pay provincial land transfer taxes and the HST on all building supplies and labour. These fees and taxes comprise on average 17% of the cost of a new home or $73,000 on a $440,902 home.
3. Construction Costs are One-Third of the Cost of a New Home
The construction costs incurred to build a 2,000 sq. ft. house average $151,000 or 34% of the total cost.
It is interesting to note that the actual construction costs have remained relatively constant over the past 10 years due to advances made in new technology and materials. Construction costs are those of the building materials, equipment and labour required to build the house. One of the great stories is that while labour costs have risen, the homebuilding industry has been able to build homes that are much more energy efficient and design-friendly without increasing construction costs to the homebuyer.
4. Business Operations Comprise 11% of the Cost of a New Home
Most new homebuyers who visit an average of 8-10 model homes before buying, will recognize that there is a substantial cost to builders during the ‘sales and marketing’ phase of any project. On top of these costs, homebuilders incur general and administrative costs needed to operate a business and, perhaps more importantly, allow homebuilders to employ 25,000 Ottawans working in the homebuilding industry.
5. On Average a Homebuilder will earn a 6% Profit on a New Home
On a 2,000 sq. ft. home built outside Ottawa’s Greenbelt, a homebuilder will earn a profit of $26,700.
While this may seem like a lot, it is important to keep in mind that it takes a homebuilder three to five years to build a home from planning and permitting to finish. In most cases that homebuilder has owned the land for five to ten years before the planning process started so spread over time, actual profits could be a fraction of a per cent per year.
这个是批量建造的,custom built 会贵很多,自己做建商跟custom built比较可以省不少钱。买地最好是有个破房子的那种,可以省很多费用,仅仅development charges 就省3-5万,买破房建自住房还可以省HST。买新地即使是建自住房这两样是省不了的。
 
太便宜了。在多伦多最少要200. 现在framing 要13-15刀一尺了,7-8刀的时代一去不返了。

埃德蒙顿infill的新房,挂牌价不到四十万,还卖不动:


这种市场搞到最后就只剩印度奸商还能活下去。
 
太便宜了。在多伦多最少要200. 现在framing 要13-15刀一尺了,7-8刀的时代一去不返了。
我们最近看上了一处房子,是1906年建的,状态还不错,颇有点维多利亚时代感觉。虽然地不大,不到十英亩,但是很多附属的建筑足够我们用了。但是那边房子卖不掉这边没法买。眼看又被别人抢走了。我们打算降点价卖,但是不能降太多,要不这边房子买不起。
 

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