匈牙利的疫苗接种情况

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我最近看了匈牙利通过接种国药疫苗成功控制住疫情的新闻。高兴之余，我又google 更多的新闻，都是让人兴奋自豪的good news ，特转载一则和大家分享。

PMO Head: Hungary’s Covid Statistics Prove Vaccination Efficacy

Hungary continues to encourage vaccinations, the differences between vaccines are very minimal, “and are especially minimal compared to the danger faced by an unvaccinated person catching the coronavirus,” Minister of the Prime Minister’s Office Gergely Gulyás said in the government’s press...

hungarytoday.hu

主要内容如下：

截止6月3日，匈牙利共有360万人（链接里的一会说370万，一会又说360万，反正差别不大）完成两针接种，其中：

辉瑞：150万人接种，3657人感染，268人死亡。

Moderna：21万人接种，204人感染，25人死亡。

牛津：18万人接种，816人感染，12人死亡。

卫星五号：81万人接种，697人感染，13人死亡。

国药：85万人接种，2800人感染，206人死亡。

通过这一则新闻可以看出：
1.所有疫苗都是好疫苗，但有些疫苗更好。
2.所有疫苗都为消除疫情做出了自己的贡献，不是某一种疫苗的功劳（匈牙利总共批准了八种疫苗，其他疫苗可能接种数量比较少，新闻里没说）。
3.辉瑞／moderna 占总接种数量的大约一半，俄罗斯卫星五号和祖国的国药疫苗各占差不多20%。
4.辉瑞／moderna 的breakthrough 比例更低，大约0.24%，当然这也跟该国的接种策略有关，有可能mRNA疫苗优先供给高危人群呢。
5.有些喉舌脸皮比较厚，硬把20%的功劳说成100%。

附上匈牙利的接种数量截图：

 

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不光匈牙利，塞尔维亚也不错

 

[MySunflower327]

我最近看了匈牙利通过接种国药疫苗成功控制住疫情的新闻。高兴之余，我又google 更多的新闻，都是让人兴奋自豪的good news ，特转载一则和大家分享。

PMO Head: Hungary’s Covid Statistics Prove Vaccination Efficacy

Hungary continues to encourage vaccinations, the differences between vaccines are very minimal, “and are especially minimal compared to the danger faced by an unvaccinated person catching the coronavirus,” Minister of the Prime Minister’s Office Gergely Gulyás said in the government’s press...

hungarytoday.hu

主要内容如下：

截止6月3日，匈牙利共有360万人（链接里的一会说370万，一会又说360万，反正差别不大）完成两针接种，其中：

辉瑞：150万人接种，3657人感染，268人死亡。

Moderna：21万人接种，204人感染，25人死亡。

牛津：18万人接种，816人感染，12人死亡。

卫星五号：81万人接种，697人感染，13人死亡。

国药：85万人接种，2800人感染，206人死亡。

通过这一则新闻可以看出：
1.所有疫苗都是好疫苗，但有些疫苗更好。
2.所有疫苗都为消除疫情做出了自己的贡献，不是某一种疫苗的功劳（匈牙利总共批准了八种疫苗，其他疫苗可能接种数量比较少，新闻里没说）。
3.辉瑞／moderna 占总接种数量的大约一半，俄罗斯卫星五号和祖国的国药疫苗各占差不多20%。
4.辉瑞／moderna 的breakthrough 比例更低，大约0.24%，当然这也跟该国的接种策略有关，有可能mRNA疫苗优先供给高危人群呢。
5.有些喉舌脸皮比较厚，硬把20%的功劳说成100%。

附上匈牙利的接种数量截图：
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拿数据说话，不错。根据这个数据，俄罗斯的疫苗表现最突出。

 

[阿吾]

5.有些喉舌脸皮比较厚，硬把20%的功劳说成100%。

昨天看到的。。。

 

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不光匈牙利，塞尔维亚也不错

匈牙利80%的人都是接种的好疫苗，当然不错了。
塞尔维亚也是好几种疫苗同时打，但是我没找到具体数据。

 

[cryi7667]

匈牙利80%的人都是接种的好疫苗，当然不错了。
塞尔维亚也是好几种疫苗同时打，但是我没找到具体数据。

那英国呢！全是英美疫苗，不像匈牙利和塞尔维亚还有一部分打得中国疫苗。看看现在每天英国的新发病数已经接近可怕再不控制又会复燃到每日2到3,万，所以英国又延长封锁解禁时间，应该不是巧合吧！还有英国疫苗高血栓并发症，现在人越来越不敢打英国疫苗，日本也不敢打送给台湾打。美国人就根本不用英国疫苗。匈牙利的数据也能说明问题吧。

 

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那英国呢！全是英美疫苗，不像匈牙利和塞尔维亚还有一部分打得中国疫苗。看看现在每天英国的新发病数已经接近可怕再不控制又会复燃到每日2到3,万，所以英国又延长封锁解禁时间，应该不是巧合吧！还有英国疫苗高血栓并发症，现在人越来越不敢打英国疫苗，日本也不敢打送给台湾打。美国人就根本不用英国疫苗。匈牙利的数据也能说明问题吧。

英国的新增患者有90%是没打疫苗的人，也就是20%的人口贡献了90%的病例，打完疫苗的人口占80%，但是只贡献了10%的新增病例。
加拿大的数据也差不多。加拿大目前的新增病例里有90%+是没打疫苗或者打完第一针不满三周的人。

 

[阿吾]

那英国呢！全是英美疫苗，不像匈牙利和塞尔维亚还有一部分打得中国疫苗。看看现在每天英国的新发病数已经接近可怕再不控制又会复燃到每日2到3,万，所以英国又延长封锁解禁时间，应该不是巧合吧！还有英国疫苗高血栓并发症，现在人越来越不敢打英国疫苗，日本也不敢打送给台湾打。美国人就根本不用英国疫苗。匈牙利的数据也能说明问题吧。

要看疫苗效果，不要看打各种疫苗的国家，

以色列： 辉瑞
加拿大：主要是辉瑞和莫得那
赛舌尔： 中国疫苗

 

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英国的新增患者有90%是没打疫苗的人，也就是20%的人口贡献了90%的病例，打完疫苗的人口占80%，但是只贡献了10%的新增病例。
加拿大的数据也差不多。加拿大目前的新增病例里有90%+是没打疫苗或者打完第一针不满三周的人。

链接please, 要最近3天的。
不太相信90%是没打疫苗的，是的话这样的报导肯定满天飞。另外，英国疫苗已经70%以上，应该是达到群免，现在新增指数增长不可能是只是没打的。

 

[fock]

链接please, 要最近3天的。
不太相信90%是没打疫苗的，是的话这样的报导肯定满天飞。另外，英国疫苗已经70%以上，应该是达到群免，现在新增指数增长不可能是只是没打的。

你又不是没长手，自己搜呗

 

[阿吾]

链接please, 要最近3天的。
不太相信90%是没打疫苗的，是的话这样的报导肯定满天飞。另外，英国疫苗已经70%以上，应该是达到群免，现在新增指数增长不可能是只是没打的。

英国这段时间的突然上升主要是Delta变异病毒，
辉瑞/莫纳得对这个变异保护率下降了不少只有90%左右，
而AZ对这个变异保护率只有60%左右，英国AZ打的最多，

中国疫苗在这个变异面前，估计毫无抵抗力

Youth, Delta variant behind UK COVID surge

www.cidrap.umn.edu

Delta responsible for 90% of COVID cases​

In early February, the link between COVID-19 infection rates and hospitalizations started to lessen, apparently due to vaccinations, only to reemerge in late April. When the researchers stratified data by age, however, they found that those 65 and older still had a lower association between infections and hospital admissions.

"We can take a lot of comfort in the fact that there does appear to be very good protection in the older age groups, where virtually everyone has been doubly vaccinated," senior study author Paul Elliott, MBBS, PhD, director of the React program, said in a BMJ press release today.

The authors also confirmed that Delta has become dominant in the country, rising from 60% of positive COVID-19 tests at the beginning of the study to 90% by the end. As a result of the surge of cases, the easing of coronavirus restrictions in England has been delayed almost 2 weeks, and the researchers said they will send interim data from the next sample to the government to help it gauge the risk of reopening.

"Clearly, it's bad news, but it's very difficult to predict the duration of the exponential phase," lead author Steven Riley, DPhil, MSc, said in the release, noting that extending coronavirus vaccination to younger people in the next month should slow the surge.

In an Imperial College London news release, Riley adds, "Even though we are seeing the highest infection prevalence in younger people who are less susceptible to COVID-19, if this growth continues it will drive up infections in older, more vulnerable people, as the vaccines are not 100% effective and not everyone has been fully vaccinated. This would lead to more hospitalisations and deaths, and risks straining the NHS [National Health Service], which is why it's vital that people take up their vaccine offer and continue to stick to the rules."

 

[米乐米乐]

英国这段时间的突然上升主要是Delta变异病毒，
辉瑞/莫纳得对这个变异保护率下降了不少只有90%左右，
而AZ对这个变异保护率只有60%左右，英国AZ打的最多，

中国疫苗在这个变异面前，估计毫无抵抗力

Youth, Delta variant behind UK COVID surge

www.cidrap.umn.edu

Delta responsible for 90% of COVID cases​

In early February, the link between COVID-19 infection rates and hospitalizations started to lessen, apparently due to vaccinations, only to reemerge in late April. When the researchers stratified data by age, however, they found that those 65 and older still had a lower association between infections and hospital admissions.

"We can take a lot of comfort in the fact that there does appear to be very good protection in the older age groups, where virtually everyone has been doubly vaccinated," senior study author Paul Elliott, MBBS, PhD, director of the React program, said in a BMJ press release today.

The authors also confirmed that Delta has become dominant in the country, rising from 60% of positive COVID-19 tests at the beginning of the study to 90% by the end. As a result of the surge of cases, the easing of coronavirus restrictions in England has been delayed almost 2 weeks, and the researchers said they will send interim data from the next sample to the government to help it gauge the risk of reopening.

"Clearly, it's bad news, but it's very difficult to predict the duration of the exponential phase," lead author Steven Riley, DPhil, MSc, said in the release, noting that extending coronavirus vaccination to younger people in the next month should slow the surge.

In an Imperial College London news release, Riley adds, "Even though we are seeing the highest infection prevalence in younger people who are less susceptible to COVID-19, if this growth continues it will drive up infections in older, more vulnerable people, as the vaccines are not 100% effective and not everyone has been fully vaccinated. This would lead to more hospitalisations and deaths, and risks straining the NHS [National Health Service], which is why it's vital that people take up their vaccine offer and continue to stick to the rules."

你是自己猜的？加拿大分析过英国的原因，是30岁以下打疫苗的太少，加拿大12岁以上已经接种过一针了，这是最主要区别。

 

[fock]

英国这段时间的突然上升主要是Delta变异病毒，
辉瑞/莫纳得对这个变异保护率下降了不少只有90%左右，
而AZ对这个变异保护率只有60%左右，英国AZ打的最多，

中国疫苗在这个变异面前，估计毫无抵抗力

Youth, Delta variant behind UK COVID surge

www.cidrap.umn.edu

Delta responsible for 90% of COVID cases​

In early February, the link between COVID-19 infection rates and hospitalizations started to lessen, apparently due to vaccinations, only to reemerge in late April. When the researchers stratified data by age, however, they found that those 65 and older still had a lower association between infections and hospital admissions.

"We can take a lot of comfort in the fact that there does appear to be very good protection in the older age groups, where virtually everyone has been doubly vaccinated," senior study author Paul Elliott, MBBS, PhD, director of the React program, said in a BMJ press release today.

The authors also confirmed that Delta has become dominant in the country, rising from 60% of positive COVID-19 tests at the beginning of the study to 90% by the end. As a result of the surge of cases, the easing of coronavirus restrictions in England has been delayed almost 2 weeks, and the researchers said they will send interim data from the next sample to the government to help it gauge the risk of reopening.

"Clearly, it's bad news, but it's very difficult to predict the duration of the exponential phase," lead author Steven Riley, DPhil, MSc, said in the release, noting that extending coronavirus vaccination to younger people in the next month should slow the surge.

In an Imperial College London news release, Riley adds, "Even though we are seeing the highest infection prevalence in younger people who are less susceptible to COVID-19, if this growth continues it will drive up infections in older, more vulnerable people, as the vaccines are not 100% effective and not everyone has been fully vaccinated. This would lead to more hospitalisations and deaths, and risks straining the NHS [National Health Service], which is why it's vital that people take up their vaccine offer and continue to stick to the rules."

The U.K. has vaccinated 80% of adults but Delta variant cases are surging. What it means for the U.S.

The Delta variant of Covid-19 has become dominant in the U.K. and cases are surging even as more than 80% of adults have been vaccinated.

www.marketwatch.com

这个文章说80%的新增病例是delta 变异病毒，住院患者里差不多有10%（84/804）是完成两针接种的。
Delta 出来后防疫形势又变了，两种mRNA疫苗才是王道，现在联邦也让第一针打了牛津的加拿大第二针改成辉瑞或者moderna 。

 

[阿吾]

你是自己猜的？加拿大分析过英国的原因，是30岁以下打疫苗的太少，加拿大12岁以上已经接种过一针了，这是最主要区别。

我给链接了，是主要是年轻人与小孩，但90%是来自与这个变异病毒

 

[米乐米乐]

我给链接了，是主要是年轻人与小孩，但90%是来自与这个变异病毒

加拿大疫苗对变异病毒同样抵抗力下降，这个跟英国没有区别。所以不能解释英国与加拿大的巨大差异。

 

[阿吾]

The U.K. has vaccinated 80% of adults but Delta variant cases are surging. What it means for the U.S.

The Delta variant of Covid-19 has become dominant in the U.K. and cases are surging even as more than 80% of adults have been vaccinated.

www.marketwatch.com

这个文章说80%的新增病例是delta 变异病毒，住院患者里差不多有10%（84/804）是完成两针接种的。
Delta 出来后防疫形势又变了，两种mRNA疫苗才是王道，现在联邦也让第一针打了牛津的加拿大第二针改成辉瑞或者moderna 。

根据6月14日发表在《柳叶刀》杂志的研究报告，与首次在英国发现的阿尔法变异毒株（Alpha variant）相比，德尔塔变异毒株（Delta variant）可能导致新冠肺炎患者住院风险增加约一倍；同时，来自辉瑞、BioNTech和阿斯利康的两剂疫苗仍可提供强大保护。

报告显示，在注射第二剂疫苗两周后，辉瑞/生物科技疫苗对人体免受德尔塔变异毒株侵害的保护率达79%，而对免受阿尔法变异毒株侵害的保护率达92%；阿斯利康疫苗的保护率则分别为60%和73%。不过研究团队表示，由于这是一项观察性研究，还需要更多研究来证实上述发现。

 

[victorsu99]

加拿大疫苗对变异病毒同样抵抗力下降，这个跟英国没有区别。所以不能解释英国与加拿大的巨大差异。

区别就是英国以阿斯利康为主，加国以辉瑞和Moderna为主，没看到加国政府已经建议即使第一剂AZ,第二剂也要打mRNA疫苗了吗？

 

[阿吾]

加拿大疫苗对变异病毒同样抵抗力下降，这个跟英国没有区别。所以不能解释英国与加拿大的巨大差异。

你忘了几个不同因素

1 英国AZ打的多，AZ对Delta变异保护率低，这一次上升90%病毒来自于Delta
2 加拿大小孩都打了，而英国没有，这次英国主要在小孩与年轻人
3 这个变异病毒加拿大还比较少，

 

[米乐米乐]

区别就是英国以阿斯利康为主，加国以辉瑞和Moderna为主，没看到加国政府已经建议即使第一剂AZ,第二剂也要打mRNA疫苗了吗？

加拿大第二针可以选m RNA是血栓问题，官方是这么说的，压根儿没提过保护力的事。

英国染病群体是年轻人，年轻人是打辉瑞的，40岁以上打AZ疫苗。

 

[米乐米乐]

你忘了几个不同因素

1 英国AZ打的多，AZ对Delta变异保护率低，这一次上升90%病毒来自于Delta
2 加拿大小孩都打了，而英国没有，这次英国主要在小孩与年轻人
3 这个变异病毒加拿大还比较少，

英国AZ是四十岁以上人群接种，如果这次英国发病在年轻人，说明AZ有效吧。