有准备移民加国念法律的吗

[wll_zhangx]

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sometimes i hanged out on the native guys' web sites. guys said there if you want eroll the toronto university, it must be 170 for entering it. for UBC, 160 is sufficent. there are some different professiones in law school, each proffesion has it's own entering score. graduating from pacific proffesion will secure us aquiring the opportunity to take part in the lawyer examination in all of the country, encluding USA, it require higher entering mark. another proffesion which need lower mark only execute the lawyer occupation in Canada and some parts of American,such as NewYork.
unfortunately. the ability of native guys in NY, the comprehension of togue and intonation, is much better than we foreign guys.
so, agree with upstair, learning here and going back to China or hongkong.

 

[kathycat]

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你在加拿大应该有很长一段时间了吧？英语真的很好！我们在国内学英语的，写的句子一眼就看出是中国人的产品。向你学习！

sometimes i hanged out on the native guys' web sites. guys said there if you want eroll the toronto university, it must be 170 for entering it. for UBC, 160 is sufficent. there are some different professiones in law school, each proffesion has it's own entering score. graduating from pacific proffesion will secure us aquiring the opportunity to take part in the lawyer examination in all of the country, encluding USA, it require higher entering mark. another proffesion which need lower mark only execute the lawyer occupation in Canada and some parts of American,such as NewYork.
unfortunately. the ability of native guys in NY, the comprehension of togue and intonation, is much better than we foreign guys.
so, agree with upstair, learning here and going back to China or hongkong.

 

[wll_zhangx]

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请问谁知道tofel的成绩需要多少?

 

[chenping58]

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与你一样,学的是法律,也是移民申请中,12月考雅思.
不同的是,肯定不象你一样年轻,否则也会考虑出去后深造.
就国内而言,虽然从事的是法律服务方面工作,但是诸多失望已严重影响了对本专业的兴趣.也许到了陌生的国度后会从头再来重新选择新行业.

"诸多失望"---for example???

I am just curious. I am changing my career into Law because I am disappointed by my current job.

 

[chenping58]

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sometimes i hanged out on the native guys' web sites. guys said there if you want eroll the toronto university, it must be 170 for entering it. for UBC, 160 is sufficent. there are some different professiones in law school, each proffesion has it's own entering score. graduating from pacific proffesion will secure us aquiring the opportunity to take part in the lawyer examination in all of the country, encluding USA, it require higher entering mark. another proffesion which need lower mark only execute the lawyer occupation in Canada and some parts of American,such as NewYork.
unfortunately. the ability of native guys in NY, the comprehension of togue and intonation, is much better than we foreign guys.
so, agree with upstair, learning here and going back to China or hongkong.

Sorry I do not quite understant your "higher mark" and "lower mark"--what they are?

Do "different professions" mean different majors???I heard Law Schools do not recruit students based on majors???

As far as I know, even you are a Toronto graduate (or any other canadian law schools), there is still some limitation on you if you want to practice law in USA. You can only take the bars in some states (3 maybe), but not all of them.

Would you share the guys' website?

 

[chenping58]

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几天没上来,有这么多同路人,真是高兴.第二楼的沙发还说只有我一个人呢.
first, tofel is required for me, at least.因为我没有在英语国家有教育背景,这是安省法学院入学考试指导手册上说的.
其次LSAT160实际上还有些悬,想要更有保障的得拿到165.
关于scholarship,如果是移民,基本不用担心,加国法学院的补助和政府福利足够一家子正常生活.如果是留学,scholarship基本上非常难的,具体我不清楚,因为一直没关注这个问题.

"因为我没有在英语国家有教育背景,这是安省法学院入学考试指导手册上说的."----I did not know that. Did you already immigrate to Canada? Actually, US law schools do not require TOEFL. You may consider it if you wish to.

 

[fjday-h]

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I am still now in China. My immigration application now is in the final stage. I am not famaliar with US law school. I just said that for the law schools (altogether 6) in Ontaria, Canada, they requires TOFEL.
US is not so attractive to me, due to financial reasons.

Once again, so glad to see you guys here.

 

[wll_zhangx]

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i cannot remember the name of web site on which i got the information of different major,by the way the profession is the same mean of major, of law school.
i can obviously remember the parts we excute the lawyer career depends on the major we selected.
there are some web site here, may help guys a little bit.
http://www.lsac.org/canadianCFC/Canadian_homepage.asp
http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/tls396.html
the first one is a official guide for entering law school
second is some guys who have conversation about how to aquire 160, some advisement seem tremendously helpful.

 

[zhlimeihuan]

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如果你看了163网站上安徽阜阳一窝法官受贿案和律师自曝的潜规则,你恐怕就无需我举例说明诸多失望的"example"了.当我们怀揣着对法律无比真诚的信仰去求助法律和司法公正时,一次次出人意料的结果让人不禁叹息.虽然我相信公正的执法人员大有人在,但利用手中权力玩弄法律的人绝不在少见,如果这些害群之马不从司法队伍中清除出去的话,我们就不可能完全享受正义和法律带来的快乐和成就.此外,司法系统仅靠自身系统内的申诉体制想得到纠正和监督是何等难事.仅用"对法律理解的不同'这句话就可以成为某些不法执法者轻松应付的借口,甚至可以同一法院不同法官对同类案件做出截然相反的判决.
正是遇到了、有了亲身感受所以才会有失望.失望的同时我没有失去对生活的追求,反而我变得更加轻松超脱.只愿用心享受自己选择的生活,心存感激地活着,对不公平的事只当年少时看过的官场现形记一样仿佛路过者的旁观吧.不要存在心底影响自己的心情才是正确的选择.

 

[wll_zhangx]

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我曾经在某基层法院工作过10年的时间, 办理过一些案件,我认为由于毕业于科班,基层法院的法官,尤其是年轻法官的敬业精神和法律素养有相当的水准.基层法官无一不在超负荷的工作,背负着巨大的精神压力.
我所在的法院,许多年轻同志需要常年将判决书带回家制作.工作的时间每天均在十几个小时,星期六还会因政治或未完工作的原因而加班.
对楼上所说的,法院中有一些负面的东西,但往往不是出现在法官本身.一些案件当法官拿到手时就有上级领导\政府\人大等头头来打招呼.办理这样的案件对法官而言是巨大的煎熬.判决书是张显的法律公正,没有法官愿意言不由衷,愿意自己的法律文书破绽百出.在权衡之间,法官耗尽了心血.
中国的根本问题是几千年封建残余的官本位问题.是唯上唯权的问题.是真正的不唯上者最终四面楚歌,惶惶戚戚,失去发展和生存空间的问题.
是毁灭,看穿风云并与魑魅魍魉们同流合污.
还是生存,到另一个天地中寻找内心中真实的自我,这就仁者见仁,智者见智了.

 

[fjday-h]

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that's why i chose to be an inhouse lawyer, and finally applied immigration.

 

[fjday-h]

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与你一样,学的是法律,也是移民申请中,12月考雅思.
不同的是,肯定不象你一样年轻,否则也会考虑出去后深造.
就国内而言,虽然从事的是法律服务方面工作,但是诸多失望已严重影响了对本专业的兴趣.也许到了陌生的国度后会从头再来重新选择新行业.

我也不年轻了.但是移民后不念书,又能做什么呢?最好的职位是律所的legal assisstant,或是转行.做不了的,到时只能打labor了.
国内法律相关行业虽是问题多多,毕竟是在不断向前发展之中.没兴趣了,移民出去追求新生活自是不错(需要勇气/毅力等等);仍有兴趣的,出去后回来仍有机会.看各人的选择吧.

前几年办的移民手续,等的太久了,其实已经让我不知道该如何对待自己的未来.只是觉得,如果花上几年时间,能够在加国当律师,也是一种可以接受的选择.只是这条路看起来挺美,走起来真的挺苦.

 

[fjday-h]

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wll_zhangx :
就你所知,法律专业出身的毕业后也是做法律这一行的到加国能够如何发展?

TO 大家:
法律行业的人移民加国确实不多.难得在这里遇上,希望不要让这个帖子沉了.
大家有空多发表些看法吧.

 

[wll_zhangx]

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有学法律的在这儿考了个law assistant,读两年的college,毕业后工作了.收入40000加币一年,工作性质相当于国内的律师助理.
另有一些人,经济较宽裕,本人又有恒心,考lsat,读法学院,但据说法学院的学习非常辛苦.assignment多,很多人睡觉的时间都不够.但读出来后可以考diploma执业.
法学院学生的学习成绩直接决定了其今后的业务量,有人说在法学院能学到前十名的成绩(不知道这个前十名是班级还是本专业的概念),可以被大的律师事务所所接纳,以后业务不愁,收入不愁.如果不然,则需象国内一样,自己负责案源.
加拿大法学院每年申请与招生的比例在2:1左右.
我所知道的大概只有这么多.希望同志们就以上不正确的,或有消息不一致的,补充一下,大家分享一下信息.

 

[chenping58]

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有学法律的在这儿考了个law assistant,读两年的college,毕业后工作了.收入40000加币一年,工作性质相当于国内的律师助理.
另有一些人,经济较宽裕,本人又有恒心,考lsat,读法学院,但据说法学院的学习非常辛苦.assignment多,很多人睡觉的时间都不够.但读出来后可以考diploma执业.
法学院学生的学习成绩直接决定了其今后的业务量,有人说在法学院能学到前十名的成绩(不知道这个前十名是班级还是本专业的概念),可以被大的律师事务所所接纳,以后业务不愁,收入不愁.如果不然,则需象国内一样,自己负责案源.
加拿大法学院每年申请与招生的比例在2:1左右.
我所知道的大概只有这么多.希望同志们就以上不正确的,或有消息不一致的,补充一下,大家分享一下信息.

Questions:

1. "不知道这个前十名是班级还是本专业的概念" --I heard law schools do not have different "专业". All students take the same classes in the first year. For the following two years, they may choose their favorable focus. But all grades will be curved among the whole class. Is that right?

2. "加拿大法学院每年申请与招生的比例在2:1左右."--I feel the ratio is even lower than 1:5(招生:申请), some shools are even 1:10.

3. "有人说在法学院能学到前十名的成绩"-- top 10 or top 10%?

 

[cnxxy]

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好极了，再顶一下。

 

[tong8208]

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是啊,国内的司法考试很辛苦的考过了,去加拿大再做律师的路又太辛苦了,所以一直在犹豫着,以前别人都劝我到了那边以后改专业,我自己想读个学位然后回上海发展,只是太辛苦了,时间消耗的也太多

 

[fjday-h]

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我也是一直在犹豫.如果是移民,要长期发展,肯定是要走法学院这条路,苦上几年,最终拿到执业证书,才算走上正常的路.否则就只有换专业了.再则,就是做助理,普通的岗位,也没什么太大的前途,努力按收入标准享受生活.
所以我现在一直考虑,既然办了移民,拿到签证后出去转悠一年,就当见个世面,想法突破英语的语言关,回国找工作.不再做移民梦.少吃几年苦.

 

[333]

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this is a good major, and i encourage all of u to pursue it. also, this is the most interesting major i know in the field of social sciences.
i study now in a law school, and i just enjoy it.
u take six courses each semestre, and u can finish very quickly.
it's not difficult like u think. u work hard and u can get a straight a.

 

[antonyss]

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yes,my wife got bar in china,now she will aplly for legal assitant,she never wants to give up her interest.