已收到移民纸及签证，被要求退回护照撤消，按新政办理，退登陆费

[popiston]

回复: 已收到移民纸及签证，被要求退回护照撤消，按新政办理，退

楼主，你连人家为何不给你回信都不知道？

人家是给你最后几天机会。

一旦给你回信，你就去不了了。

因为尼康说的明白，只有登录的150才特设，可以继续留在加拿大。

佩服这思路。向你学习

 

[大笑笑]

回复: 已收到移民纸及签证，被要求退回护照撤消，按新政办理，退

带上康尼准许摩洛哥移民的新闻备用，提前联系好律师和媒体（比如Globe and Mail）。
不让你入境，就在温哥华机场赖着吧。
你又不是难民，他们也不能把你关起来。
加拿大不是天朝，没有城管暴力执法的。
而且加拿大是案例法，一旦有摩洛哥人的先例，你的就可以参照。
香港不回应你的邮件，是因为他们没法回答。
这种事情只能默许的。

在机场如果碰到入境困难，需要讲理沟通的时候，不要激动，控制嗓门音量（很多中国人大嗓门惯了，外国人听起来就像threat, verbal abuse），不要作出威胁的举动（比如挥拳啦）。这些都可能成为被捕的理由。
要心平气和地和入境官员沟通。
如果他们不让你进来，要求和领导对话，拿出康尼特赦的新闻作为证据。强调你以为自己是150人之一。
打同情牌，做出一脸困惑状，解释你已经变卖房产，辞去工作，回中国也已经无家可归了。不要提加拿大政府言而无信。
最好强调自己非常热爱加拿大，对未来生活非常期待之类的。
他们应该不会强制遣送你回国的。
实在不行，就在机场联系律师和媒体吧。
预祝登陆顺利！

 

[Kartzchen]

回复: 已收到移民纸及签证，被要求退回护照撤消，按新政办理，退

150人说的是登陆的人数，还有一些人没有登录。

我知道说的是登陆人数，但是LZ可以装糊涂呀。反正新闻里面也写得不是很严谨的，这人数也是媒体估算的。移民局拒绝透露人数。

移民局特赦后也没有正式通知LZ不能登陆。LZ可以辩称，自己虽然收到香港使馆通知，但看到特赦新闻，以为自己也是在这个特赦范围的。

切记，这几天一定不要发什么最后通牒去烦香港使馆了。如果他们再次通知你不准登陆，那么就非常被动，真的没有胜算了。

 

[Nebula.Trek]

回复: 已收到移民纸及签证，被要求退回护照撤消，按新政办理，退

楼主的计划是12月短登后立刻回国的，所以他要问清楚，能不能直接得到PR。

如果直接登录，PR肯定能得到，但是有可能有长期在加拿大的附加限制。这和楼主计划矛盾，如果需要长期在加拿大才能保住PR，他就放弃了。

 

[雨纷纷]

回复: 已收到移民纸及签证，被要求退回护照撤消，按新政办理，退

想要pr就直接登陆，拿到pr，和其他人一样。，谁都没权利额外给你提保留pr的附加条件。

 

[pcai]

回复: 已收到移民纸及签证，被要求退回护照撤消，

http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/resources/manuals/bulletins/2012/ob479B.asp

你们都看过了么？解释一下吧！～

 

[Gandalf]

回复: 已收到移民纸及签证，被要求退回护照撤消，按新政办理，退

刚刚看了一遍, 我觉得这个bulletin没有提到一点,就是这些void的visa,如果通知了本人是void的,还是没有通知本人是void的, 到底有什么差别. 我的理解是,只要登陆了都应该按这个instruction来豁免. 所以楼主放心去登陆吧,当然,越早越好.

 

[tony9721]

回复: 已收到移民纸及签证，被要求退回护照撤消，

http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/resources/manuals/bulletins/2012/ob479B.asp

你们都看过了么？解释一下吧！～

原文
Operational Bulletin 479-B - November 29, 2012

Temporary Public Policy to Facilitate Permanent Residence for Certain Persons whose Federal Skilled Worker Applicants was terminated: Actions Required of Inland Offices

Summary

This Operational Bulletin provides instructions to visa offices and inland offices on the actions required to facilitate the granting of permanent residence for persons whose Federal Skilled Worker (FSW) application was terminated and to whom permanent resident visas were issued in error. Specifically, this OB provides instructions for situations where the persons affected have already used the visas and were erroneously admitted to Canada as permanent residents.
Background

The Jobs, Growth and Long-term Prosperity Act became law on June 29, 2012. Under this legislation, Federal Skilled Worker (FSW) applications that were made before February 27, 2008 were terminated by operation of law if a decision based on FSW program selection criteria had not been made by an immigration officer before March 29, 2012.
However, despite being terminated by operation of law, a number of cases were finalized and visas were issued in error. These visas are void. Furthermore, persons who became permanent residents based on these invalid visas are considered not to have obtained permanent resident status.
In view of the exceptional circumstances, and pursuant to his authority under section 25.2 of the Immigration and Refugee Protection Act (IRPA), the Minister of Citizenship, Immigration and Multiculturalism established on November 29, 2012 that there are public policy considerations warranting the granting of permanent residence or the granting of necessary exemptions (including the requirement to pay processing fees) to permit the issuance of a permanent residence visa to persons who, despite the termination of their applications, had their FSW visa applications processed to a final decision and were issued permanent resident visas.
Instructions

To facilitate the granting of permanent resident status to persons who have already arrived in Canada as a result of being issued visas in error despite their FSW application being terminated, visa offices and inland offices are to take the following actions on a priority basis:

1. Visa offices are to consult the list of affected persons inland provided by NHQ – International Region to confirm cases by visa office.
2. Visa offices will make the following note in the terminated FSW file: “This application for permanent residence as a Federal Skilled Worker was made before February 27, 2008. It was not established by an officer before March 29, 2012, whether, in accordance with the regulations, the applicant met the selection criteria and other requirements applicable to that class. As a consequence, this application for permanent residence was terminated on June 29, 2012, by operation of section 87.4(1) of the Immigration and Refugee Protection Act.
   As a result, the visas issued on (insert date) were void ab initio, and the permanent resident status which was based on these invalid visas is also void ab initio.”
3. Visa offices will create a new SW1-FED application in GCMS and set the following:
   1. Received date to November 29, 2012
   2. Subcategory = PP
   3. Record the Eligibility decision as Passed – PP
4. Visa offices will make the following note in the new GCMS file: “This person meets the criteria of the temporary public policy established on November 29, 2012 to permit the granting of permanent residence to persons who:
   
   • made an application for a permanent resident visa under the FSW class before February 27, 2008 and in respect of whom an officer had not established before March 29, 2012 that they met the selection criteria and other requirements applicable to that class, and who thereby fall within the termination provision in section 87.4(1) of IRPA; and
   • who, despite the termination of their applications, had their FSW visa applications processed to a final decision and were issued permanent resident visas.”
5. Visa offices will reallocate original Right of Permanent Residence Fee (RPRF) payments in GCMS. (Note, the processing fee from the terminated FSW application will be returned by NHQ – Finance).
6. Visa offices will confirm the creation of new GCMS files with the local CIC office in Ottawa at: OttawaHC-CH@cic.gc.ca.
7. CIC Ottawa will contact affected persons advising them of the public policy measure and actions required of them in order to obtain permanent resident status (see letter in Appendix A).
8. Upon receipt of the signed CoPR and new photographs, and upon confirming that the person meets the criteria of the temporary public policy, delegated officers at CIC Ottawa will grant permanent resident status to the affected persons and enter their decision in FOSS, and will contact CPC – Sydney to confirm that new Permanent Resident Cards (PRCs) are to be issued on an urgent basis. The granting of permanent resident status takes effect as of the date that the delegated officer makes this decision.

Appendix A – Letter to Pre-C50 Applicants: Landed in Error and who have not yet been notified

The Jobs, Growth and Long-term Prosperity Act became law on June 29, 2012. Under this legislation, Federal Skilled Worker (FSW) applications made before February 27, 2008, were terminated by operation of law if a selection decision had not been made by an immigration officer before March 29, 2012.
In conducting a factual review of affected applications, we have noted that the selection decision on your file was made after March 28, 2012. Regretfully, your application was affected by the Jobs, Growth and Long-term Prosperity Act and was terminated by operation of law on June 29, 2012. As such, the permanent resident visa(s) which were inadvertently issued to you and your family were not valid, and the permanent resident status that was based on these invalid visas is also considered to be void. Therefore, you and your family are currently without status in Canada.
However, in view of these unfortunate circumstances, we wish to inform you that the Minister of Citizenship, Immigration and Multiculturalism has, pursuant to his authority under section 25.2 of the Immigration and Refugee Protection Act (IRPA), established that there are public policy considerations warranting the granting of permanent residence or the granting of the necessary exemptions (including the requirement to pay processing fees) to permit the issuance of a permanent residence visa, as the case may be, to persons who:

1. made an application for a permanent resident visa under the FSW class before February 27, 2008 and in respect of whom an officer had not established before March 29, 2012 that they met the selection criteria and other requirements applicable to that class, and who thereby fall within the termination provision in s. 87.4(1) of IRPA; and
2. who, despite the termination of their applications, had their FSW visa applications processed to a final decision and were issued permanent resident visas.

In order for us to grant permanent resident status to you and your family, we need you to do the following as soon as possible:

1. Sign the new Confirmation of Permanent Residence document(s) enclosed with this letter.
2. Mail the original signed Confirmation of Permanent Residence document(s), along with new photographs of you and your family members, to our office at: 200 Catherine Street, Ottawa, Ontario, K2P 2K9. Please write “FSW Public Policy” on the front of the envelope to help us quickly identify and prioritize your correspondence.

Once we receive your signed Confirmation of Permanent Residence document(s) and new photos, we can grant you and your family permanent resident status.
Permanent Resident Cards would then be issued for you and your family members on an urgent basis. The date on your Permanent Resident Card is the date on which you become a permanent resident. You must destroy any previously issued Permanent Resident Cards as they are not valid.
Note that the processing fees that you paid for your original FSW application, which was terminated by operation of law, will be returned to you as soon as possible.
We sincerely apologize that you were affected by this error, and any inconvenience this process may cause you and your family.

 

[慢慢来]

回复: 已收到移民纸及签证，被要求退回护照撤消，按新政办理，退

对于楼主，更有用的应该是479-A。
479-B说的是who have already arrived in Canada 。
479-A才是who remain overseas 。
不过结论大同小异，最后都能得到PR身份。既然这样，不妨等一等使馆回复，按指示操作。

 

[happyjhon1963]

回复: 已收到移民纸及签证，被要求退回护照撤消，按新政办理，退

谢了。公告已看，不知祸福，已买12月15日机票，不知是否该登陆，请教各位同学。

 

[Nebula.Trek]

回复: 已收到移民纸及签证，被要求退回护照撤消，按新政办理，退

这个公告B说：

凡是持有错误visa，已经登陆的人，收到的枫叶卡作废，退款。然后给发一个新的枫叶卡（新的号码）。


就是截止今日，登陆的都特赦了。





没有登陆的：
需要重新走一此程序，然后重发一个新的visa。你１２月１５日肯定来不及了。

 

[Nebula.Trek]

回复: 已收到移民纸及签证，被要求退回护照撤消，按新政办理，退

移民局这个公告是支持直接登陆的，因为不直接登陆，会拖延时间，也许几个月后才能重新得到visa。

已经登陆的１５０人，如果要求，却可以提前得到枫叶卡。


实在不明白楼主为何不立刻登陆？

 

[Nebula.Trek]

回复: 已收到移民纸及签证，被要求退回护照撤消，按新政办理，退

对于已经登陆的，移民局许诺，会发新枫叶卡：
In order for us to grant permanent resident status to you and your family, we need you to do the following as soon as possible:

1. Sign the new Confirmation of Permanent Residence document(s) enclosed with this letter.
2. Mail the original signed Confirmation of Permanent Residence document(s), along with new photographs of you and your family members, to our office at: 200 Catherine Street, Ottawa, Ontario, K2P 2K9. Please write “FSW Public Policy” on the front of the envelope to help us quickly identify and prioritize your correspondence.

Once we receive your signed Confirmation of Permanent Residence document(s) and new photos, we can grant you and your family permanent resident status.

Permanent Resident Cards would then be issued for you and your family members on an urgent basis. The date on your Permanent Resident Card is the date on which you become a permanent resident. You must destroy any previously issued Permanent Resident Cards as they are not valid.

Note that the processing fees that you paid for your original FSW application, which was terminated by operation of law, will be returned to you as soon as possible.

We sincerely apologize that you were affected by this error, and any inconvenience this process may cause you and your family.

对于没登陆的，移民局没说要发新移民visa这句话：
In order for us to issue new visas to facilitate your travel to Canada, we need you to do the following as soon as possible:

1. Sign and date where indicated at the bottom of this letter to confirm that you wish to take advantage of this temporary public policy measure.
2. Forward the original signed letter to our office, along with the following documents:
* your passport(s);
* Confirmation of Permanent Residence document(s) that were issued to you previously; and
* new photos of you and your family members.
* Note that the Right of Permanent Residence Fee (RPRF) that you paid for your original FSW application will be transferred to this new case. If you choose not to proceed with immigration to Canada, it will be returned to you.

We sincerely regret that you were affected by this error, and any inconvenience this process may cause you and your family.



但是因为公告Ａ的第一步分已经提到：In order for us to issue new visas to facilitate your travel to Canada, we need you to do the following as soon as possible

所以可以肯定，没有登陆的人，发的是一次性短期旅游visa，然后到了加拿大，继续按照已经登陆的政策交涉。


因为按照移民法，没有登陆，等于什么都没作。

 

[Amy_Y]

回复: 已收到移民纸及签证，被要求退回护照撤消，按新政办理，退

樓主啊，錯過了加拿大史上免費掉餡餅的好機會。電腦幫你，你卻沒幫自己。150人/60億萬人口的概率，幸運得比中500萬大獎都值當。

唉，好可惜！有時候的特立獨行，不偶爾與自己的個性反道而行，是會錯失一些美好的。這跟道德，誠信的原則底線衝突的事無關啊。

希望最後的補救措施能讓你最終如願吧！

 

[happyjhon1963]

回复: 已收到移民纸及签证，被要求退回护照撤消，按新政办理，退

问题的关键是为了等孩子12月15日放假从美国登陆,其它时间上学没时间.

 

[tony9721]

回复: 已收到移民纸及签证，被要求退回护照撤消，按新政办理，退

问题的关键是为了等孩子12月15日放假从美国登陆,其它时间上学没时间.

这个有点牵强，美国不是澳洲，离加拿大近，周末一天就可以搞定

另 楼主估计对加也不是特别在意，能去最好，不去也可
这样这个visa就是有点鸡肋了


anyway，多说无益，祝福

 

[tony9721]

回复: 已收到移民纸及签证，被要求退回护照撤消，按新政办理，退

这个公告B说：

凡是持有错误visa，已经登陆的人，收到的枫叶卡作废，退款。然后给发一个新的枫叶卡（新的号码）。


就是截止今日，登陆的都特赦了。

没有登陆的：
需要重新走一此程序，然后重发一个新的visa。你１２月１５日肯定来不及了。

居然还退款

 

[雨纷纷]

回复: 已收到移民纸及签证，被要求退回护照撤消，按新政办理，退

主申可以先于孩子登陆啊

 

[慢慢来]

回复: 已收到移民纸及签证，被要求退回护照撤消，按新政办理，退

对于没登陆的，移民局没说要发新移民visa这句话：
In order for us to issue new visas to facilitate your travel to Canada, we need you to do the following as soon as possible:

1. Sign and date where indicated at the bottom of this letter to confirm that you wish to take advantage of this temporary public policy measure.
2. Forward the original signed letter to our office, along with the following documents:
* your passport(s);
* Confirmation of Permanent Residence document(s) that were issued to you previously; and
* new photos of you and your family members.
* Note that the Right of Permanent Residence Fee (RPRF) that you paid for your original FSW application will be transferred to this new case. If you choose not to proceed with immigration to Canada, it will be returned to you.

We sincerely regret that you were affected by this error, and any inconvenience this process may cause you and your family.



但是因为公告Ａ的第一步分已经提到：In order for us to issue new visas to facilitate your travel to Canada, we need you to do the following as soon as possible

所以可以肯定，没有登陆的人，发的是一次性短期旅游visa，然后到了加拿大，继续按照已经登陆的政策交涉。


因为按照移民法，没有登陆，等于什么都没作。

这个分析臆想的成分太大了。
仔细阅读OB479-A

1. Create a new SW1-FED application in GCMS and set the following:
2. Received Date to date that the letter was received
3. Subcategory = PP
4. Record the Eligibility decision as Passed – PP
5. Update any personal data as required per documentation submitted by affected persons (e.g. new passport).

对于已经获得Visa但没有登陆的人，在撤销旧案的同时会新建一个联邦技术移民案子（SW1=技术移民，FED=联邦）。并且把案子的状态直接设置成通过审核（Record the Eligibility decision as Passed – PP）
既然已经通过审核，那么就只剩下签发Visa了。
既然重建的是联邦技术移民的案子，那么新的Visa自然是联邦技术移民的Visa，而绝不是什么“一次性短期旅游visa”。
与已经登陆的人相比，楼主只需要多等一段换发签证的时间。
目前楼主手上的Visa已经失效，贸然登陆可能无法顺利入境。建议最好按使馆指示操作。机票改签损失的只是时间和金钱，跑到那边被拒绝入境就麻烦了。

 

[tony9721]

回复: 已收到移民纸及签证，被要求退回护照撤消，按新政办理，退

这个分析臆想的成分太大了。
仔细阅读OB479-A

1. Create a new SW1-FED application in GCMS and set the following:
2. Received Date to date that the letter was received
3. Subcategory = PP
4. Record the Eligibility decision as Passed – PP
5. Update any personal data as required per documentation submitted by affected persons (e.g. new passport).

对于已经获得Visa但没有登陆的人，在撤销旧案的同时会新建一个联邦技术移民案子（SW1=技术移民，FED=联邦）。并且把案子的状态直接设置成通过审核（Record the Eligibility decision as Passed – PP）
既然已经通过审核，那么就只剩下签发Visa了。
既然重建的是联邦技术移民的案子，那么新的Visa自然是联邦技术移民的Visa，而绝不是什么“一次性短期旅游visa”。
与已经登陆的人相比，楼主只需要多等一段换发签证的时间。
目前楼主手上的Visa已经失效，贸然登陆可能无法顺利入境。建议最好按使馆指示操作。机票改签损失的只是时间和金钱，跑到那边被拒绝入境就麻烦了。

我晕，不睡1215不能登录了吧，难道那个visa作废了