看看Canada老外如何靠中国老祖宗赚钱,华人为何不动动脑子?

  • 主题发起人 罗珠达哇
  • 发布时间 2011-05-16

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华人处在的阶段是生存
西人处在的阶段是生活

所以不一样

:wdb10:对啊,1/3的移民就是这么生活的,另外1/3算是办公室里有个凳子可以坐下。还有1/3拿着国内赚来的钱在混吃等死。
 

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老外也知道是假货,但是会选装饰性强,品质尚过得去的。
而老移民店里的东西虽然多,但不伦不类。

复制品,谈不上真和假。人家没说是古董店,如果是古董店,就要卖货真价实的古董。这个店卖的是仿旧家具等物品。
 

罗珠达哇

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令人深思!
看过楼主博客照片里家的摆设,品味不错,应当去指导中国商家,或者自己亲自去开店。

偶合朋友正在商量开什么好

1、西藏、尼泊尔佛具店,从尼泊尔、拉萨进货
2、佛吧
3、佛教素斋餐厅
4、禅堂
等等
 

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偶合朋友正在商量开什么好

1、西藏、尼泊尔佛具店,从尼泊尔、拉萨进货
2、佛吧
3、佛教素斋餐厅
4、禅堂
等等

要开开在温西,本那笔,列治文,这中国城实在不看好。
 

罗珠达哇

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要开开在温西,本那笔,列治文,这中国城实在不看好。

温西不错,有个地方不小,房租才3000元
 
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好帖. 图文并茂, 有内容. 希望这样有价值的帖子多些, 而那些喊口号开批斗会的帖子少些. 要爱国就要落实在行动上, 爱中国的文化, 弘扬中国的文化, 提升中国人的品牌和形象.

不过对楼主的分析和结论仍有疑问. 你给出的只是店面外观的区别, 真正洋人的店和华人的店总体上经营状况如何, 是需要数据基础的. 比如成本, 流水, 利润. 有些华人的小店看上去虽然又乱又拥挤, 物品都堆放在地上, 但是他们的店面小, 物品多, 进货成本低, 店面租金低, 说不定利润比大店还高呢.

当然, 华人自身的文化品位和经营品位都有待提高这个你说得很对, 但是得出一般性结论只基于简单的几个表面因素是远远不够的. 应该只就事论事, 看到什么说什么, 说华人店外观不如西人店, 品位不如西人, 都没问题. 要论到是否赚钱, 就没那么简单.

比如我作为一个顾客, 我就不一定会去西人那个店买高价假古董, 而只为了享受那店面的装修和陈设. 我更可能去那些不起眼的小店翻翻找找, 看看是否能淘到有价值的东西. 比如北京潘家园, 我过去也常去, 但我很少去那些装璜高级的店, 而有时能在摆地摊的农家那里发现好东西. 有一次我看见一个老农只拿着一个小花瓷瓶在"守株待兔", 我仔细看了那花瓶, 是乾隆年间的,我花了20元人民币就从老农手里买下, 后来找专家鉴定, 居然还是真品.

说得非常在理。:wdb37:
 

罗珠达哇

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好帖.

比如我作为一个顾客, 我就不一定会去西人那个店买高价假古董, 而只为了享受那店面的装修和陈设. 我更可能去那些不起眼的小店翻翻找找, 看看是否能淘到有价值的东西. 比如北京潘家园, 我过去也常去, 但我很少去那些装璜高级的店, 而有时能在摆地摊的农家那里发现好东西. 有一次我看见一个老农只拿着一个小花瓷瓶在"守株待兔", 我仔细看了那花瓶, 是乾隆年间的,我花了20元人民币就从老农手里买下, 后来找专家鉴定, 居然还是真品.

古董和家居饰品店还是不一样的。古董往往从目不识丁的老农民那里能淘来真品,但是家居饰品店都是仿旧的复制品,无所谓真假。
 

罗珠达哇

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, 真正洋人的店和华人的店总体上经营状况如何, 是需要数据基础的. 比如成本, 流水, 利润.

1】这家洋人店已经开了七八年了,货物不是越来越少,而是越来越多。说明了什么?

2】这家洋人店老板每个月飞北京两次,去进货,说明了什么?如果流水、利润不高,恐怕连机票钱都不够吧?

3】这家洋人店,以前是老板自己站柜台,现在老板不来了,雇了员工,又说明了什么?

4】这家洋人店在温哥华主流媒体上打了大幅广告,说明了什么?那广告的费用也不比房租便宜多少呀!
 

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Peking Lounge opened in February 2003 and has been proudly serving the Vancouver community ever since. Located in Historic Chinatown, the owners Michael Bennett and Daniel Poulin have created a unique store where century old furniture is elegantly paired with the most contemporary of design. Peking Lounge is also your online Chinese furniture warehouse where you can experience and explore the China of yesteryear: when Beijing was Peking and the Emperor was known as the Son of Heaven.

Since our first trip to China we have been enthralled with the rich, cultural history of this country and its booming economic future. Beijing's many awe inspiring historic monuments, which lay in peaceful splendor through the city's core, are in sharp contrast to the mayhem of everyday modern life in this sprawling metropolis.

China embraced a Socialist market economy in the early 1990's and the city's urban landscape has changed dramatically since.

Western style commerce seems to clash with a cacophony of old world traditions. Throngs of commuters on bicycles battle with the ever-increasing myriad of automobiles. Curbside food vendors fry up traditional cuisine outside the neighborhood Western fast food outlet and glitzy glamour malls are quickly replacing the bustling “dirt markets”. It may seem as though Beijing’s glorious past is being blown away by one of the cities infamous Spring sand storms. However, much of old Peking can still be discovered through its fine art and by observing and appreciating the unique styles and craftsmanship of its antique furniture and collectibles.

Our first Chinese antique purchase was a fortuitous one. We purchased a two piece, carved bamboo paintbrush holder from the Qing Dynasty (pronounced “Ching”) from a woman who had a small shop across the street from the Kempinski Hotel (a five star hotel which would later become Daniel’s place of employment). We were impressed with the woman’s knowledge of the piece and her attention to detail: highlighting its unique colour, texture and history. We shared a few laughs and took a photograph of her. It has since became our favorite piece not only because it is a beautiful example of artisan culture of the late 1800’s but also because it was the beginning of a lasting friendship.

We returned to her shop five months later and were distressed to find the entire block had been demolished. We set out to find other antique shops within the city and were overjoyed to stumble upon her new shop in a small warehouse on the outskirts of Beijing (not bad in a city of over 12 million)! She was equally surprised and pleased to see us again and we began to converse. We learned that Li Yan was a friend of the General Manager of the Kempinski Hotel (a known antique enthusiast) and had, in fact, supplied the hotel with its antique furnishings. Our trust in her deepened and our relationship grew. We purchased a beautiful vermilion, red antique cabinet from Li Yan and various other pieces since.

Another fortunate find was Lucy Shao and her husband David. Lucy was Daniel’s assistant at the Health Club (Kempinski Hotel) and over the past few years, we formed a fun, friendly and respectful relationship with her and David. Lucy is now working for the American Embassy and has proven to be invaluable with her knowledge on how the Chinese people do business. Lucy and David are also Godsends in the art of translation and data finding. We are happy and grateful to have them so closely involved in Peking Lounge.

During Daniel’s stay in Beijing and our subsequent trips to this fascinating city, we have forged more than a business relationship with Li Yan, Lucy and David. We have nurtured important personal friendships. We are confident that this translates into a unique opportunity for you to purchase high quality antique Chinese furniture and home accessories.

As China’s economy expands and becomes more diversified so does our showroom at Peking Lounge. From a Classic 300 year old Altar table and hand carved architectural items salvaged from demolition sites to contemporary art and specially designed silks and linens which have become so popular that we have begun wholesaling them.

We hope that our web site enables you to experience the unique sensations of this captivating city (its sceneries, sounds and scents) as well as entices you to explore the possibilities of owning your own small piece of Chinese history.

Michael Bennett ? Owner
Asia has always been my favorite traveling destination since living and working in Japan in the mid 80’s. So when the opportunity arose to co-own an import design showroom with Daniel I jumped at the opportunity.
Having worked in service, hospitality and design virtually my whole working life I was eager to apply past skills to our own venture. Now I truly feel blessed being able to work, travel and use my creativity every day while helping to educate and expose people to the beautiful craftsmanship and rich history of China.

Daniel Poulin ? Owner
Peking Lounge was born out of my desire to have my own business while taking a 180 degree turn in my career. I had worked in the fitness industry for over 15 years, managing fitness clubs, teaching aerobics and doing some personal training when I got a job offer in China to manage a spa in a five star hotel. I jumped at the opportunity and fell in love with the culture and truly un-rivaled history of China. Getting into the Chinese furniture business allows me to share some of that culture and history with other Canadians. Once my contract ended, Michael and I saw the opportunity to use our savings to ship a first container to Vancouver. This was in early 2003… It is always a pleasure for me to go back to Beijing every year, visit the furniture dealers and get involved into the friendly bargaining war one has to put up for every single piece you see in our store. My two years in China taught me enough Mandarin to be able to get my point across and handle most daily requirements during our purchasing trips. It has helped us to avoid trouble on more than one occasion…. I have a strong belief in our products and an untouchable work ethic. This makes Peking Lounge stand way ahead of the competition by the quality of our pieces and the truly hands on approach that we have embraced since the very first day we opened our doors.
 

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引用:
作者: 淡烟陌桑
好帖.

有一次我看见一个老农只拿着一个小花瓷瓶在"守株待兔", 我仔细看了那花瓶, 是乾隆年间的,我花了20元人民币就从老农手里买下, 后来找专家鉴定, 居然还是真品.

古董和家居饰品店还是不一样的。古董往往从目不识丁的老农民那里能淘来真品,但是家居饰品店都是仿旧的复制品,无所谓真假。
__________________
阿弥陀佛!


MD,现在坛子里的吹牛越来越没技术含量了
如此拙劣,真服了:wdb23:
 
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这个活只有罗珠能做。
 

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1】这家洋人店已经开了七八年了,货物不是越来越少,而是越来越多。说明了什么?

2】这家洋人店老板每个月飞北京两次,去进货,说明了什么?如果流水、利润不高,恐怕连机票钱都不够吧?

3】这家洋人店,以前是老板自己站柜台,现在老板不来了,雇了员工,又说明了什么?

4】这家洋人店在温哥华主流媒体上打了大幅广告,说明了什么?那广告的费用也不比房租便宜多少呀!

我之所以有这样的疑问, 并非空穴来风, 拍拍脑袋话就出口了. 是因为我有个洋人女友在芝加哥也开了很大的仿古家具和仿古工艺品店, 她的店开的早, 应该有20年了, 她爸爸是芝加哥富豪, 20年前派她去北京一边学中文一边寻找商机, 她看中的就是仿古家具和工艺品. 她跑到北京郊区找到仿古家具厂, 签定长期合作关系, 每运一货柜仿古家具到美国, 她能赚3万美元. 但是最近几年生意明显下滑, 市场没有以前好了. 现在洋人也知道如何仿制古典家具, 不仅中式家具, 还仿制西式古典家具.
 

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引用:
作者: 淡烟陌桑
好帖.

有一次我看见一个老农只拿着一个小花瓷瓶在"守株待兔", 我仔细看了那花瓶, 是乾隆年间的,我花了20元人民币就从老农手里买下, 后来找专家鉴定, 居然还是真品.

古董和家居饰品店还是不一样的。古董往往从目不识丁的老农民那里能淘来真品,但是家居饰品店都是仿旧的复制品,无所谓真假。


__________________
阿弥陀佛!


MD,现在坛子里的吹牛越来越没技术含量了
如此拙劣,真服了:wdb23:

这厮不是有病吧? 看啥都怀疑别人是在吹? 我是不是还应该把你请到我家里去鉴别真伪呢? 再说, 我又无意把它卖给你, 更没兴趣跟你探讨真假, 你丫发的那门子羊角疯, 跑到这里来"打假"? 吃饱了撑的难受? 回家撞墙去, 把你那猪脑袋撞聪明点再开口说人话.
 

罗珠达哇

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我之所以有这样的疑问, 并非穴来风, 拍拍脑袋话就出口了. 是因为我有个洋人女友在芝加哥也开了很大的仿古家具和仿古工艺品店, 她的店开的早, 应该有20年了, 她爸爸是芝加哥富豪, 20年前派她去北京一边学中文一边寻找商机, 她看中的就是仿古家具和工艺品. 她跑到北京郊区找到仿古家具厂, 签定长期合作关系, 每运一货柜仿古家具到美国, 她能赚3万美元. 但是最近几年生意明显下滑, 市场没有以前好了. 现在洋人也知道如何仿制古典家具, 不仅中式家具, 还仿制西式古典家具.


你女友生意下滑,可能有多种原因,比如芝加哥竞争力很强。但是加西海岸,仅此一家北京舫运营不错,还真没有什么竞争。

但是以后就未必了。如果越来越多的中国新移民也介入这一领域,学来洋人那点经营之道的话。

中国古玩家具还是有市场的,看如何做。

你看看北京舫官网上如何描述的:老外为何青睐中国家居

Chinese furniture has an illustrious history, one that has fascinated and intrigued Western concepts of furniture design for centuries. For our purpose it is only necesssary to simply note that furniture in China has slowly made it's way up. That is to say that all the furniture until the Song Dynasty was low to the ground as business and personal matters were conducted on mats or low kneeling stools. The Song Dynasty period brought much innovation to the craft of furniture making in China and slowly higher stools, chairs with back and arm rests evolved and nobility of the period began using and initiating it's mass production.

Kublai Khan made Peking the capital in 1279 and since then Peking has been the ruling capital for over 500 years housing two consecutive, magnificent dynasties: the Ming and the Qing. As emperors were responsible for the development of the arts we can understand why the majority of fine antique furnishings come from the city now known as Beijing, which literally mean "Northern Capital".

The Ming and Qing dynasties are known as the Golden age even though many of the styles we seee here were being used in the late Song era. Craftsmanship was perfected with the introduction of commerce and with this the standard of living improved and flourished for both city and country people. People sudddenly wanted better furniture this in part instigated the mass production of high quality pieces. The other reason furniture design blossomed during this period was the openning of the doors for trade which enabled hardwood to be imported into Peking from Indo China. The introduction of such tropical hardwoods as Zitan and Huali made it possible to perfect ingenious joinery techniques the Chinese became famous for.


XIA C.2200-1750 BC
SHANG C.1750-1066 BC
ZHOU C. 1066-22
QUI 221-206 BC
HAN 206 BC-220 AD
Three Kingdom Period 220-280
JIN 265-420
Northern and Southern Dynasties 420-581
SUI 581-618
TANG 618-907
Five Dynasties Period 907-960
SONG 960-1279
YUAN 1279-1368
MING 1368-1644
QING 1644-1911

REPUBLIC 1911-1949

PEOPLE'S REPUBLIC 1949-today

SHUNZHI 1644-1662
KANGXI 1662-1723
YONGZHENG 1723-1736
QINGLONG 1736-1796
JIAQING 1796-1821
DAOGUANG 1821-1851
XIANFENG 1851-1862
TONGZHI 1862-1875
GUANGXU 1875-1908
XUANTONG (PUYI) 1908-1911
 

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这厮不是有病吧? 看啥都怀疑别人是在吹? 我是不是还应该把你请到我家里去鉴别真伪呢? 再说, 我又无意把它卖给你, 更没兴趣跟你探讨真假, 你丫发的那门子羊角疯, 跑到这里来"打假"? 吃饱了撑的难受? 回家撞墙去, 把你那猪脑袋撞聪明点再开口说人话.

呵呵 网上什么人都有 莫计较
说实话 20元买来真货 在潘家园太常见了
真不是吹牛
俺家里就有
 

罗珠达哇

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写到这儿,看了看北京舫的官网,看到通知,他们上个月又从北京运了一个集装箱来温哥华。。。上面说:
our largest container ever...
 

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比如北京潘家园, 我过去也常去, 但我很少去那些装璜高级的店, 而有时能在摆地摊的农家那里发现好东西. 有一次我看见一个老农只拿着一个小花瓷瓶在"守株待兔", 我仔细看了那花瓶, 是乾隆年间的,我花了20元人民币就从老农手里买下, 后来找专家鉴定, 居然还是真品.

不知淡烟是否精于此道?如果是,那么经历不应该仅此一次。
通常来说,在老农家里,捡漏的机会大些。
拿出来卖,捡漏的机会少些,因为老农大致知道这个价值。(别告诉我这老农连乾隆这两字都不认识,但知道潘家园怎么走)
如果在潘家园,又不是什么早市,鬼市(好东西早让固定摊位的内行趁早抢去了)你捡漏的机会就更少了。
虽然LoveMJ做出这个判断有些武断,但经验告诉我们这种可能性确实不大。
不妨上个图让我们长长眼。
 

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不知淡烟是否精于此道?如果是,那么经历不应该就此一次。
通常来说,在老农家里,捡漏的机会大些。
拿出来卖,捡漏的机会少些,因为老农大致知道这个价值。
如果在潘家园,又不是什么早市,鬼市(好东西早让固定摊位的内行趁早抢去了)你捡漏的机会就更少了。
虽然LoveMJ做出这个判断有些武断,但经验告诉我们这种可能性确实不大。
不妨上个图让我们长长眼。

那个花瓶在我北京家中, 我这里没法上图片. 移民之前家里的古董都没动, 除了这个花瓶, 还真没有多少真品. 乾隆年间的瓷器也算不得珍贵, 因为年代不算太久远, 不过只花20元捡的, 还真是个"漏", 那是多年以前了, 那时的潘家园还没完全成规模. 我老公移民之前考虑过要在加拿大开古董店, 因此我们花了差不多2年时间跑北京的古董市场, 除了潘家园, 还有北边的一个古董市场, 每周末都去逛, 不过只有过一次"捡漏"的幸运. 后来因我老公不愿意在加拿大开店, 现在他在做实业之外仍然捎带着开古董网店, 虽然做的不怎么样, 我们对古董的兴趣还是始终都在的, 也自学过不少古董鉴定方面的知识.

虽然我没能帖上我家里那个花瓶的图片, 我刚才顺手从我手边的"嘉德四季"拍卖会图片集中拍下来几张照片, 有一款同为乾隆年间的笔筒, 2005年的起拍价才1500-2500元左右:
 

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