蒙村的新轻轨

[雨纷纷]

20号修个立交转弯还要关闭三年，修轻轨四年通车。鬼信！！

那修

利用40号不用拆迁。

怎么架，只能在40号辅路上架一层

 

[Nebula.Trek]

无论是4年建成也好，10年也好，无法否认这条轻轨对大蒙特利尔的经济巨大带动作用。

轻轨和火车还是不同的吧，轻轨列车应该直接接轨地铁轨道。

 

[Nebula.Trek]

听参与规划法国朋友说，新轻轨不是为了方便周围居民通勤到downtown，相反，而是为了方便downtown居民到郊区工业园区工作（例如40号公路沿线的几个巨大的工业园区）。
整个轻轨走向主要考虑的是联通工业园。

目前，40号公路沿线的工业园，招不到足够的人工，因为downtown的人不愿意开车去工作。

因为招不到人，40号公路沿线的工业园很多公司没法继续扩大生产。

这就是新轻轨西岛最后一站，直接接通西岛最大的工业园，而不延伸到麦吉尔西岛校区和college的原因。（规划的轻轨西岛终点站Sainte-Anne-de-Bellevue，位于Baie d‘urfe工业园门口，而不是位于Sainte-Anne-de-Bellevue中心。当然未来会逐渐延伸到麦吉尔西岛校区和鹦鹉岛乃至于vaudreuil。）

 

[mctone]

到2020年也就4年，信不信等1-2年就知道这项目是否在做。

不过这么高大上，涉及拆迁的工程，可比champlain bridge要难度高。而后者讨论了10年，施工也要好些年。

 

[WorryFree]

听参与规划法国朋友说，新轻轨不是为了方便周围居民通勤到downtown，相反，而是为了方便downtown居民到郊区工业园区工作（例如40号公路沿线的几个巨大的工业园区）。
整个轻轨走向主要考虑的是联通工业园。

目前，40号公路沿线的工业园，招不到足够的人工，因为downtown的人不愿意开车去工作。

因为招不到人，40号公路沿线的工业园很多公司没法继续扩大生产。

这有点扯，因为去20的话钱一下就飞上去了。

 

[山中幸盛]

1. 蒙市人口一直在缓慢下降

2. 有uber运营的城市公交使用率也开始下降，包括蒙市

 

[山中幸盛]

uber pool, car2go, bixi, turo比公交有效率得多，但是这些创新一定会被市政工会杯葛

 

[luf_7_6]

搞不懂，这个线路基本和AMT的通勤火车重合啊，真有这么多的人流量，火车多开几班就好了，搞个毛轻规啊

 

[Nebula.Trek]

搞不懂，这个线路基本和AMT的通勤火车重合啊，真有这么多的人流量，火车多开几班就好了，搞个毛轻规啊

西岛的市长不停的去魁北克和渥太华请愿，说西岛工业园区没有轻轨，找不上工人。
工业园区在40高速和现有的AMT通勤火车之间。

现在规划的轻轨，终点站在Baie d‘urfe工业园门口（西岛最大工业园）。

参见一下红字部分，就是说西岛的市长们，每次去两个国会请愿，都明确说明，轻轨的目的是给工业园运输员工，而不是为了居民进城方便。

COALITION OF THE TRAIN DE L'OUEST
Press Release
Montréal, June 12, 2015 – The Train de l’Ouest Coalition is extremely pleased that the National Assembly of Quebec has adopted Bill 38, authorizing the Caisse de dépôt et placement du Québec to undertake large infrastructure projects on behalf of the Quebec Government. The Train de l’Ouest project now forms part of the mandate of the Caisse, a key development likely to bring the Train de l’Ouest project closer to reality. After devoting many years on this essential project so as to optimize public rail transit between Montreal and the West Island, the Coalition is now able to rely on the proven expertise and financial resources of the major partner that is the Caisse.

‘’We would like to thank Premier Couillard very specially for his long-term vision in giving this infrastructure mandate to the Caisse de dépôt et placement du Québec ,’’ declared Clifford Lincoln, spokesperson for the Train de l’Ouest Coalition. ‘’We also want to thank the Minister of Finance, Carlos Leitao, and the Minister of Transport, Robert Poëti, for their continuing interest, and their involvement in ensuring the passage of Bill 38. We intend to cooperate closely with the Caisse towards the achievement of the Train de l’Ouest project by 2020.’’

‘’The Train de l’Ouest project is a key priority for the well-being and future of the West Island,’’ added Mayor Maria Tutino. Mayor of Baie d’Urfé, who represents the Mayors on the Coalition. ‘’The Coalition recognizes the importance of a service to the P.E. Trudeau airport in Dorval, but it is essential that priority be given to the Montreal-Sainte Anne de Bellevue corridor, which serves more than 100,000 employees in the commercial, institutional and industrial sectors. Indeed, this corridor includes 94% of the employees working in the industrial sector of the West Island. Thanks to the Caisse, the achievement of the Train de l’Ouest project will bring significant benefits to our economy.‘’

Let us reiterate that the Train de l’Ouest – which means dedicated passenger rail-lines between Montreal and Sainte-Anne-de-Bellevue – will be able to serve two to three times the current number of commuters, at the same time as providing service to our industrial sites, which have continuously stressed their urgent need for such a service.

西岛工业园招不到工人的报道：
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montr...-shuttle-out-of-transit-desperation-1.2947685

A Baie D’Urfé company is hiring, but says it’s having trouble finding employees who’ll travel to the Baie D'Urfé industrial park.

Frank Komsic, vice-president of SHOEI Canada, said as many as 80 per cent of people scheduled for job interviews don’t show up because of the lack of transit to the industrial park.

The company, which produces nickel powder used in electronics manufacturing,set up a shuttle service to get its employees to work.

Baie D’Urfé Mayor Maria Tutino said she’s heard about this problem from other businesses in the industrial park since taking over as mayor, ten years ago.

She’s advocating for more transit options, particularly the proposed Train de L’Ouest.

 

[linyan74]

机场到dt要绕个大弯子。。。。
算了，还是打车吧

 

[luf_7_6]

西岛的市长不停的去魁北克和渥太华请愿，说西岛工业园区没有轻轨，找不上工人。
工业园区在40高速和现有的AMT通勤火车之间。

现在规划的轻轨，终点站在Baie d‘urfe工业园门口（西岛最大工业园）。

参见一下红字部分，就是说西岛的市长们，每次去两个国会请愿，都明确说明，轻轨的目的是给工业园运输员工，而不是为了居民进城方便。

COALITION OF THE TRAIN DE L'OUEST
Press Release
Montréal, June 12, 2015 – The Train de l’Ouest Coalition is extremely pleased that the National Assembly of Quebec has adopted Bill 38, authorizing the Caisse de dépôt et placement du Québec to undertake large infrastructure projects on behalf of the Quebec Government. The Train de l’Ouest project now forms part of the mandate of the Caisse, a key development likely to bring the Train de l’Ouest project closer to reality. After devoting many years on this essential project so as to optimize public rail transit between Montreal and the West Island, the Coalition is now able to rely on the proven expertise and financial resources of the major partner that is the Caisse.

‘’We would like to thank Premier Couillard very specially for his long-term vision in giving this infrastructure mandate to the Caisse de dépôt et placement du Québec ,’’ declared Clifford Lincoln, spokesperson for the Train de l’Ouest Coalition. ‘’We also want to thank the Minister of Finance, Carlos Leitao, and the Minister of Transport, Robert Poëti, for their continuing interest, and their involvement in ensuring the passage of Bill 38. We intend to cooperate closely with the Caisse towards the achievement of the Train de l’Ouest project by 2020.’’

‘’The Train de l’Ouest project is a key priority for the well-being and future of the West Island,’’ added Mayor Maria Tutino. Mayor of Baie d’Urfé, who represents the Mayors on the Coalition. ‘’The Coalition recognizes the importance of a service to the P.E. Trudeau airport in Dorval, but it is essential that priority be given to the Montreal-Sainte Anne de Bellevue corridor, which serves more than 100,000 employees in the commercial, institutional and industrial sectors. Indeed, this corridor includes 94% of the employees working in the industrial sector of the West Island. Thanks to the Caisse, the achievement of the Train de l’Ouest project will bring significant benefits to our economy.‘’

Let us reiterate that the Train de l’Ouest – which means dedicated passenger rail-lines between Montreal and Sainte-Anne-de-Bellevue – will be able to serve two to three times the current number of commuters, at the same time as providing service to our industrial sites, which have continuously stressed their urgent need for such a service.

西岛工业园招不到工人的报道：
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montreal/baie-d-urfé-company-sets-up-shuttle-out-of-transit-desperation-1.2947685

A Baie D’Urfé company is hiring, but says it’s having trouble finding employees who’ll travel to the Baie D'Urfé industrial park.

Frank Komsic, vice-president of SHOEI Canada, said as many as 80 per cent of people scheduled for job interviews don’t show up because of the lack of transit to the industrial park.

The company, which produces nickel powder used in electronics manufacturing,set up a shuttle service to get its employees to work.

Baie D’Urfé Mayor Maria Tutino said she’s heard about this problem from other businesses in the industrial park since taking over as mayor, ten years ago.

She’s advocating for more transit options, particularly the proposed Train de L’Ouest.

给工业园送工人用得了花50亿造轻轨？多少的人流量，而且还只是上下班高峰的流量，多开几条AMT和工业园区专用shuttle bus足矣。

 

[DancingElf]

现在西岛早上去DT的火车还少了一班呢。

 

[Nebula.Trek]

给工业园送工人用得了花50亿造轻轨？多少的人流量，而且还只是上下班高峰的流量，多开几条AMT和工业园区专用shuttle bus足矣。

西岛几个工业园一年税收100多亿呢，还不算员工工资所得税。
工业园区很多夜班工人。还有parttime。
还有软件园，上下班不固定。

 

[Nebula.Trek]

现在西岛早上去DT的火车还少了一班呢。

你家位置好，以后去vendom你坐vaudreuil－hudson 线，去Mont-Royal你做轻轨，去Central Station你两条随便坐。

 

[WorryFree]

搞不懂，这个线路基本和AMT的通勤火车重合啊，真有这么多的人流量，火车多开几班就好了，搞个毛轻规啊

双山线已是电气话的，而20号的铁路是CP的，AMT想加火车不易。新火车每车只能载150人，最高时速100KM，但频率高的多。如果计划中蒙大站与蓝线，麦吉尔站与绿线相连的话，那用公交的人会多很多。

 

[WorryFree]

1. 蒙市人口一直在缓慢下降

2. 有uber运营的城市公交使用率也开始下降，包括蒙市

那是因为大家搬到外面去了，轻轨就更需要了。

 

[WorryFree]

现在西岛早上去DT的火车还少了一班呢。

那是CP的铁路，另外还有长途与货运。

 

[DancingElf]

你家位置好，以后去vendom你坐vaudreuil－hudson 线，去Mont-Royal你做轻轨，去Central Station你两条随便坐。

我现在是最不环保的方式，开车

 

[青色]

估计建成之日也是中国消灭贫困之时

 

[爱我所爱]

CDQ总裁Michael Sabia表示，全新的轨道交通将采用全自动系统，无需司机，总里程67公里，共24站，包括现有火车站和地铁站，例如中央车站和麦吉尔地铁站，每周运营7天，每天20小时从上午5点至次日凌晨1点。高峰期6到12分钟一班。2020年开通第一班。

听起来有点高大上，你相信吗？
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