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回复: 偶家有女初长成，，，
正式收到UBC SAUDER SCHOOL OF BUSINESS的拒绝信，如下：
Thank you for your application to the Bachelor of Commerce program in the Sauder School of Business at UBC. Your application has been reviewed by the Admissions Committee and we regret that we are not able to extend you an offer of admission to the program.
The selection process is difficult because of the quality and quantity of applications received. The Admissions Committee examines each student's academic record, essays, extracurricular acitvities, awards and distinctions. Although your grades are excellent, your overall qualifications are not competitive with those of other applicants to first year.
You may be interested to know that it is possible to gain entry to the Bachelor of Commerce Program at the second or third year level. If you were to complete a pre-Commerce year of study in a different program or at another post-secondary institution, we would be pleased to receive another application from you. Please visit the Sauder School of Business website at www.sauder.ubc.ca/bcom for specific information regarding the pre-Commerce year and the courses you need to take to be considered for admission to second or third year.
We appreciate your interest in the Sauder School of Business and would like to wish you the best in your future endeavours.
由此，可见UBC的商科尽管在加拿大算不上头三位，但处于西部位置，竞争程度较东部激烈。学科成绩EXCELLENT不够，足够的课外活动也不够，还需要AWARDS AND DISTINCTIONS才能保证第一年的入门条件。
然而，如果真正对UBC商科感兴趣的学生，可以避开第一年的激烈竞争，选择第二年或第三年进入。头一年可在UBC选其他PROGRAM, 或在和UBC相关的COLLEGE选商科. 第一年的淘汰率比较高，给真正感兴趣的学生空出了位置。
正式收到UBC SAUDER SCHOOL OF BUSINESS的拒绝信，如下：
Thank you for your application to the Bachelor of Commerce program in the Sauder School of Business at UBC. Your application has been reviewed by the Admissions Committee and we regret that we are not able to extend you an offer of admission to the program.
The selection process is difficult because of the quality and quantity of applications received. The Admissions Committee examines each student's academic record, essays, extracurricular acitvities, awards and distinctions. Although your grades are excellent, your overall qualifications are not competitive with those of other applicants to first year.
You may be interested to know that it is possible to gain entry to the Bachelor of Commerce Program at the second or third year level. If you were to complete a pre-Commerce year of study in a different program or at another post-secondary institution, we would be pleased to receive another application from you. Please visit the Sauder School of Business website at www.sauder.ubc.ca/bcom for specific information regarding the pre-Commerce year and the courses you need to take to be considered for admission to second or third year.
We appreciate your interest in the Sauder School of Business and would like to wish you the best in your future endeavours.
由此，可见UBC的商科尽管在加拿大算不上头三位，但处于西部位置，竞争程度较东部激烈。学科成绩EXCELLENT不够，足够的课外活动也不够，还需要AWARDS AND DISTINCTIONS才能保证第一年的入门条件。
然而，如果真正对UBC商科感兴趣的学生，可以避开第一年的激烈竞争，选择第二年或第三年进入。头一年可在UBC选其他PROGRAM, 或在和UBC相关的COLLEGE选商科. 第一年的淘汰率比较高，给真正感兴趣的学生空出了位置。
最后编辑: 2009-04-21
回复: 偶家有女初长成，，，
then transfer during the second or the third year...
if she really like BCom. @UBC, try the transfer program in Kwantlen or Capilano...
then transfer during the second or the third year...
回复: 偶家有女初长成，，，
离偶家近的就有一个，LANGARA COLLEGE, TRANSFER UBC容易。
不过，她目前的兴趣在：FASHION DESIGN.
对商科已不是非常感冒。
只不过没有绘画基础，也不属于CREATIVE一类地，恐怕FASHION DESIGN养不活自己。所以，先暂时选择商科，工作挣了银子，再业余时间学习FASHION DESIGN（或有可能的话，上大学时选修相关科目）.这是她目前的想法。
离偶家近的就有一个，LANGARA COLLEGE, TRANSFER UBC容易。不过，她目前的兴趣在：FASHION DESIGN.
对商科已不是非常感冒。只不过没有绘画基础，也不属于CREATIVE一类地，恐怕FASHION DESIGN养不活自己。所以，先暂时选择商科，工作挣了银子，再业余时间学习FASHION DESIGN（或有可能的话，上大学时选修相关科目）.这是她目前的想法。
回复: 偶家有女初长成，，，
Then go to EmilyCarr or Kwantlen...
不过，她目前的兴趣在：FASHION DESIGN.
只不过没有绘画基础，也不属于CREATIVE一类地，恐怕FASHION DESIGN养不活自己。所以，先暂时选择商科，工作挣了银子，再业余时间学习FASHION DESIGN（或有可能的话，上大学时选修相关科目）.这是她目前的想法。
回复: 偶家有女初长成，，，
刚从DOWNTOWN参加IVEY HBA AEO的INFORMATION SESSION返回.
HBA的的生员是挺有意思, 前两年各个专业基本都有: SCIENCE, ENGINEERING, PHILOSOPHY, ARTS ETC. 也就是说得到IVEY HBA AEO OFFER的并非局限于报考商科的学生.
比较适合偶家女儿, 可以在第一年EXPLORE一些感兴趣的COURSE.
据介绍, 选择DUAL DEGREE的学生在增加(5年双学位, 1个HBA, 1个其他学科), HBA的学生如果进到LAW, 需要6年完成双学位.
刚从DOWNTOWN参加IVEY HBA AEO的INFORMATION SESSION返回.
HBA的的生员是挺有意思, 前两年各个专业基本都有: SCIENCE, ENGINEERING, PHILOSOPHY, ARTS ETC. 也就是说得到IVEY HBA AEO OFFER的并非局限于报考商科的学生.
比较适合偶家女儿, 可以在第一年EXPLORE一些感兴趣的COURSE.
据介绍, 选择DUAL DEGREE的学生在增加(5年双学位, 1个HBA, 1个其他学科), HBA的学生如果进到LAW, 需要6年完成双学位.
回复: 偶家有女初长成，，，
回家的路上, 女儿没好气地讲UBC的招生故事, 同校GRADE 12一个同学, 收到UBC 商科的OFFER, 成绩是LOW 80, 但曾经在某学期竞选上了学生会.
去年一个被录取的学生, 成绩超好, 98, 无多的课外活动, 但参加竞赛得大奖.
看来UBC商科招生, 更重视LEADSHIP和DISTINCTION.
ACDEMIC方面的要求, IVEY和QUEENS高些.
IVEY AEO CUTOFF: 90
QUEENS CUTOFF 08年:87
回家的路上, 女儿没好气地讲UBC的招生故事, 同校GRADE 12一个同学, 收到UBC 商科的OFFER, 成绩是LOW 80, 但曾经在某学期竞选上了学生会.
去年一个被录取的学生, 成绩超好, 98, 无多的课外活动, 但参加竞赛得大奖.
看来UBC商科招生, 更重视LEADSHIP和DISTINCTION.
ACDEMIC方面的要求, IVEY和QUEENS高些.
IVEY AEO CUTOFF: 90
QUEENS CUTOFF 08年:87
回复: 偶家有女初长成，，，
商科本科生选择学校，经常对比的学校：QUEEENS, IVEY HBA, MCGILL. 尤其QUEENS VER IVEY是学生同时收到这两个学校EARLY OFFER时的讨论点（鱼和熊掌之选）。
选了一些观点贴在此处，仅供参考。
A.
“-Recruite
All of the Canadian banks and most of the global banks will come to all three schools in most years. This means you have "access" to the jobs and your resume is guaranteed to be read. However, once you're in the recruiting process what school you went to becomes marginal in relation to your personal characteristics (i.e. grades, extracurricular leadership, internship experience, poise in the interview, etc.).
- How focused are you on a business education?
Queen's Commerce is a 4-year program whereas Ivey HBA is a 2-year program. I don't think either is better, but you need to think about what you want study. Queen's will give you earlier exposure to business in general and finance in particular. Ivey will gives you broader exposure and two years to study anything else that interests you.
- How do you think you will learn the best?
Ivey is 100% case-based, Queen's is probably 60% case based, McGill is less than 50% case based. Again, I don't think any one approach is better, but they are different.
- How sure are you about banking?
Banking is not the only desirable career out of undergrad. Which school gives you the most options? All three schools have strong reputations in all industries, but on the margin I think these are the differences. Ivey probably has the deepest banking network in Canada. This is partially because of the HBA program and partially because it has traditionally been Canada's most elite MBA program. Queen's probably has a broader network that includes banking, consulting, brand management, and industry. McGill probably has the deepest US network. Americans love McGill."
商科本科生选择学校，经常对比的学校：QUEEENS, IVEY HBA, MCGILL. 尤其QUEENS VER IVEY是学生同时收到这两个学校EARLY OFFER时的讨论点（鱼和熊掌之选）。
选了一些观点贴在此处，仅供参考。
A.
“-Recruite
All of the Canadian banks and most of the global banks will come to all three schools in most years. This means you have "access" to the jobs and your resume is guaranteed to be read. However, once you're in the recruiting process what school you went to becomes marginal in relation to your personal characteristics (i.e. grades, extracurricular leadership, internship experience, poise in the interview, etc.).
- How focused are you on a business education?
Queen's Commerce is a 4-year program whereas Ivey HBA is a 2-year program. I don't think either is better, but you need to think about what you want study. Queen's will give you earlier exposure to business in general and finance in particular. Ivey will gives you broader exposure and two years to study anything else that interests you.
- How do you think you will learn the best?
Ivey is 100% case-based, Queen's is probably 60% case based, McGill is less than 50% case based. Again, I don't think any one approach is better, but they are different.
- How sure are you about banking?
Banking is not the only desirable career out of undergrad. Which school gives you the most options? All three schools have strong reputations in all industries, but on the margin I think these are the differences. Ivey probably has the deepest banking network in Canada. This is partially because of the HBA program and partially because it has traditionally been Canada's most elite MBA program. Queen's probably has a broader network that includes banking, consulting, brand management, and industry. McGill probably has the deepest US network. Americans love McGill."
回复: 偶家有女初长成，，，
B.
"As far as I know, Ivey has a lot more alumni in banking than Queen's does. I find students from both schools to be equally polished. I was speaking with a VP of CS in NY (former alum from my school), and he said that the most recognized Canadian schools on Wall Street are McGill and Ivey.
Do not fall into the tap of thinking that 2 years of b-study is not as good as 4 years worth. you take a lot of courses which you will recall and make little use of in your four years (i.e. business history). The two year program at Ivey is more condensed, but it gets into the heart of the matter."
C.
"If you want to do investment banking, Ivey undergrad is the place to go. The education is better or on par with Queens, but the real value comes from the Ivey community. Aside from the alumni network, there is an incredible amount of support from upper year students who have interned at almost any bank you can name."
B.
"As far as I know, Ivey has a lot more alumni in banking than Queen's does. I find students from both schools to be equally polished. I was speaking with a VP of CS in NY (former alum from my school), and he said that the most recognized Canadian schools on Wall Street are McGill and Ivey.
Do not fall into the tap of thinking that 2 years of b-study is not as good as 4 years worth. you take a lot of courses which you will recall and make little use of in your four years (i.e. business history). The two year program at Ivey is more condensed, but it gets into the heart of the matter."
C.
"If you want to do investment banking, Ivey undergrad is the place to go. The education is better or on par with Queens, but the real value comes from the Ivey community. Aside from the alumni network, there is an incredible amount of support from upper year students who have interned at almost any bank you can name."
回复: 偶家有女初长成，，，
2008年毕业生就业报告：
http://www.ivey.uwo.ca/recruiting/PDFs/HBA 2007-8 Permanent Placement Report.pdf
http://www.business.queensu.ca/ConversionDocs/commerce_annual_report.pdf
2008年毕业生就业报告：
http://www.ivey.uwo.ca/recruiting/PDFs/HBA 2007-8 Permanent Placement Report.pdf
http://www.business.queensu.ca/ConversionDocs/commerce_annual_report.pdf
最后编辑: 2009-04-22
