13北京91等ME,1,100全球91看本周末下周初法庭决定。。

截止12月22日已确认加入诉讼的并缴费的人数是13人。

12月20日,CIC的律师通知律师和法庭不同意调解,所以现在我们要准备正式进入诉讼。由于12月20日到1月8日是圣诞假期,所以这段时间应该没什么事情可做了。

配额就在这几天该出来了吧,大家到时可以根据它来判断情形是否乐观。也给犹豫的人一个缓冲的时间。个人认为这几天加入应该没大问题,因为法院休假没什么影响。

律师原本计划的收费因时间而不同的最主要原因是怕CIC愿意协调,那就意味着官司不必打就有结果了,后来人看到有结果了再加入自然要多收费,纯粹坐享。现在我们还是回到诉讼的起点上,所有新加入的人和原来的人一样都面临着未果的诉讼,所以收费目前到年底律师确认不会增加。


为方便以后的同学,现把起诉的信息重新整理下,

律师Tim Leahy的e-mail: TEL@unfaircic.com;

中国代理赵立新mp: 013901119311 / 018611191755
e-mail: zhaolixin@hotmail.com


赵立新的招商银行帐号: 6225 8801 3297 0352

起诉费是350加币,折合成人民币即可。

具体步骤:
1)付款前可电话代理确认付款金额也可直接按当日折算。最近人民币升值,很合算,大概在2,150左右,比香港便宜近百元。

2)付款后给代理去短信或e-mail告知:姓名,FN, BJ还是HK申请地及e-mail地址。以后律师告知咱们案子情况都要用e-mail;(也有可能赵代理会打电话过来问这些信息)。然后赵代理会把我们的情况,(主要是告知律师咱已经付款了)告诉律师并抄送我们。

3)律师或代理会发一份retainer agreement给我们签字,一般信息都给我们添好,我们只需签字扫描回e-mail回去就OK.

大家步骤正反都有,殊途同归,结果没两样的。

目前,我们的律师那里有546号全世界的起诉人,另蒙特利尔的一位女律师那里有200号伊朗起诉人。
 
最后编辑: 2012-07-19
回复: 北京起诉的情况,有人想加入没

最好,把律师e-mail地址也告知,这样方便大家去确认信息。
 
回复: 北京起诉的情况,有人想加入没

我也想加入,怎么加?才1000块人民币而已,而且这案子确实是立了的
 
回复: 北京起诉的情况,有人想加入没

1、北京91目前在香港同学找的那位律师那里交费起诉的只有一位;

2、 我和星星点点正准备加入,她同这律师写信确认过,到本月20日前加拿大使馆就同意协商还是不同意协商会给出说法;如不同意,该律师会分两部分,91前及91后的,进行起诉;

3、我没和律师通信,最初是不太相信别人;据星星点点和律师的信,该律师曾同意在我们的人数到50时将起步费用降至150刀,但最终只有15人。但他手上别的国家的已总计近500。

4、不知道我们这些剩下得91还有多少人想起诉,如果最初大家报个团凑个50人就太好了。可是,最初没人肯给这么多信息,只在钱上作通知而不做解释。

5、或许等12年北京配额出了,有的又有了希望继续预测,有的彻底死心,有的才会坚定起诉吧,任何时候应该都不算晚吧。
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6、星星点点可能会把律师信贴给大家,律师说目前还可以加入,没有说以前的那个截至日期过了就不可,因为北京的人太少。
我一直是想参与起诉的,但该律师的诉讼策略,诉讼依据,各个不同使馆不同时期的申请人的情况都有很大区别,如何保证大家的诉求利益达到最大,这些一直没有能明确,可能因此犹豫的人很多。
 
回复: 北京起诉的情况,有人想加入没

大家犹豫应该有很多原因,收费当然不止1,000人民币,因为前期要350加币,到使馆如果同意协商我们就要交那500加币了。不过,律师说,他的收费也是不同的,有汇率或什么的原因。这信还是等星星点点贴给大家好,毕竟是她努力的。她还在和律师写信谈北京可能有更多人加入,费用能否减或多少人才会减的问题。
 
回复: 北京起诉的情况,有人想加入没

我一直是想参与起诉的,但该律师的诉讼策略,诉讼依据,各个不同使馆不同时期的申请人的情况都有很大区别,如何保证大家的诉求利益达到最大,这些一直没有能明确,可能因此犹豫的人很多。


到时你看律师的信吧,写的很清楚:如果移民局不同意协商,律师的起诉是按照每个类别来的,然后判决对每一类别的起诉人适用。
 
回复: 北京起诉的情况,有人想加入没

转发律师给香港的信:
Dear litigant,

The meeting before Justice Barnes yesterday was quite enlightening. First, the Chief Justice called for the meeting because with 304 application, the Court was concerned how everyone would cope with so many files. That day, I added 112 more to the pot and have 56 on hand yet to file. Therefore, both parties agreed that, rather than proceeding with all 472 files, I may select representative cases to be decided first with the others held in abeyance. The Court is aware that there are two classes; i.e., those who applied before 27 February 2008 and those who applied between 27 February 2008 and 25 June 2010; and a dozen of so visa posts. Thus, we could first proceed with about twenty-four cases. (However, at this juncture, we have only one file at Pretoria, Manila and Seoul, two at Beijing, three at Singapore, four at Accra and Nairobi each, half a dozen at London and 16 in Hong Kong.)


The Court, however, would prefer a mediated solution to litigation and said that a junior judge, whom I trust, had offered to mediate. I accepted the offer, but opposing counsel could not do so without first conferring with CIC. He agreed to provide CIC's decision by December 20th. It should be clear to him that the Court believes that mediation is in everyone's best interest.


The problem, however, for CIC is that a mediated settlement would get out, and they would have to fashion a solution for the rest the applicants in the black hole. Thus, while our cases would be settled, CIC's problem would remain. Therefore, they might prefer litigation in order to prolong the process. It should, however, be clear to CIC that, if they choose to litigate, the matter will be decided on the merits and not dismissed at the leave stage. (No assurance to that effect was -- or could be -- given. However, the Chief Justice had decided to have five different judges decide leave, implying that a cross-section of the Court will consider the cases, and surely one would agree to have the matter heard, setting a precedent for everyone else.)


If we do go into mediation, it would be that the action-for-damages would have to be deferred during the mediation stage and, if settlement is reached, there would be no damages. So, CIC would certainly gain by settling at this stage.


I have attached the Court's order. The significant clause is that future applications will be added to the pool. Thus, additional applications may be lodged until disposition of this litigation.


My own guess -- and that is all that it is -- is that, if mediation succeeds, CIC will announce a change in policy vis-à-vis the backlogged files, precluding new mandamus applications en masse. Justice Barnes observed that often the effect in a mandamus application is that the litigant jumps to the head of the queue, adding that, while that result is unfair for the others, the Court may only deal with the case before it. Thus, the advantage of being in the litigation group would be that our files will be processed ahead of the others in the backlog even if the Minister announces that he will allocate a share of the annual quota to each tier of applicants.


Also attached is the admission from the program manager at Beijing that processing of pre-Bill C-50 applications has been "suspended" and that there is no time-line for processing them, adding that the Minister will be announcing a plan to deal with those cases. If the "announcement" is not just a stalling tactic, but, rather, indicates that the Minister is planning to announce something, it would be better to be in the litigation group with the possibility of being processed promptly than moving forward at glacial pace all the other warehoused files.


On the other hand, if the mediation does not result in a settlement, the action for damages may still be pursued. Thus, the meeting encouraged me with respect to your fate. I will let you know if CIC agrees to mediation.


Regards,


Tim
 
回复: 北京起诉的情况,有人想加入没

转到qq群吧,那样可以告知给多的人。费用还是早明确好。若果起诉哦,我算一个。我的qq号:710596804,最后时间记着通知我。
 
回复: 北京起诉的情况,有人想加入没

费用应该不会有变,我们属于最后往上加的人了,如果我们少了,前面的人还不得喝律师打起来;另:我也就是向大家告知这事,具体的群啥的一个我也不知道,另,这事得大家自己上心。
 
回复: 北京起诉的情况,有人想加入没

我有点困惑有关所需要的费用。能否稍微解释一下?
 
回复: 北京起诉的情况,有人想加入没

如果真的是为了91北京那就算我一个,我们需要的结果是移民局对我们这些91的具体时间表,而且要够详细。请问如果加入的话,如何登记?并且还是需要把费用明确一下。
 
回复: 北京起诉的情况,有人想加入没

谁能帮忙澄清一下,这个律师是只打91的官司,还是同时受雇于91和227,仅仅是在起诉时将他们分开两队起诉?从英文回复里看不出来
 
回复: 北京起诉的情况,有人想加入没

律师给我的信里面写的是550,我就没理这个岔儿,如果是350,我觉得可以考虑,如果150就不用考虑了,我直接加入。
麻烦有消息论坛里面通知一声,或者07的群里面说一下也行。多谢
 
回复: 北京起诉的情况,有人想加入没

150刀,我也愿意报名。
 
回复: 北京起诉的情况,有人想加入没

律师给我的信里面写的是550,我就没理这个岔儿,如果是350,我觉得可以考虑,如果150就不用考虑了,我直接加入。
麻烦有消息论坛里面通知一声,或者07的群里面说一下也行。多谢

:wdb10:。想参加,但是觉得贵,技术移民没钱:wdb14:
 

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