有准备移民加国念法律的吗

[木文]

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这个帖子太长了，我想开一个新帖子专门讨论paralegal /law clerk/legal assistant 的学习，找工作的问题好不好？

我一定天天上来看 顶你的贴 快开吧

 

[wll_zhangx]

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两年前的帖子顶到现在不容易。
两年过去了，说说自己的现状。
语言关过了，在sfu读criminology,还有一年毕业。
law school，需要我的gpa为3.6以上，就是平均分A-,要打工，带孩子，平均分才3.3几。老婆也不愿意我再读了。但是心不甘呀。
想想自己十年的法律工作经验。
真正不行，国内还有律师照，凭借英语能力和criminology的学位，代理代理涉外或刑事案件。
矛盾中。

 

[木文]

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两年前的帖子顶到现在不容易。
两年过去了，说说自己的现状。
语言关过了，在sfu读criminology,还有一年毕业。
law school，需要我的gpa为3.6以上，就是平均分A-,要打工，带孩子，平均分才3.3几。老婆也不愿意我再读了。但是心不甘呀。
想想自己十年的法律工作经验。
真正不行，国内还有律师照，凭借英语能力和criminology的学位，代理代理涉外或刑事案件。
矛盾中。

楼上的 在SFU读的是个啥 是本科的学位还是什么program? 能详细说说么？你说的GPA要求是入学申请的要求么？

 

[beeknight]

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楼上的 在SFU读的是个啥 是本科的学位还是什么program? 能详细说说么？你说的GPA要求是入学申请的要求么？

同问

 

[wll_zhangx]

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criminology 刑事学，是第二学位，已经读了一年，我说的gpa是我这一年的平均成绩。

 

[beeknight]

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criminology 刑事学，是第二学位，已经读了一年，我说的gpa是我这一年的平均成绩。

毕业后给什么学位？Bachelor of Arts 或 Social Science?

原来在中国的教育、工作背景能得到承认并给credits吗？

 

[wll_zhangx]

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bachelor of arts, for general students, 120 to graduate, for me as a second degree student, 85 credits to graduate.

the courses which you learned in China are useless. the school does not appreciate the credits you have earned in China. the only two courses which I do not need to study are English and a fundermantal quantitive course(sfu categorize its courses into three parts: writing,quantitive, and breadth).

 

[beeknight]

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bachelor of arts, for general students, 120 to graduate, for me as a second degree student, 85 credits to graduate.

the courses which you learned in China are useless. the school does not appreciate the credits you have earned in China. the only two courses which I do not need to study are English and a fundermantal quantitive course(sfu categorize its courses into three parts: writing,quantitive, and breadth).

Thanks!

How about the employment perspective for this profession?

 

[wll_zhangx]

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the school offers you opportunity to do the co-op, which means you have the chance to work a part time in police-office or board. However, the co-op is totally different from working in the same workplace. We know that as a police officer, you need to pass the physical test such as runing jumping lifting and other stuff, also you need pass the training. If you are luck en ough and also a hardworking person which gives good impression in the workplace you co-op, maybe you can get the job.

and also your working experience in china as a lawyer or the field related to the justice system will help you gain some advantage on job hunting.

 

[beeknight]

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the school offers you opportunity to do the co-op, which means you have the chance to work a part time in police-office or board. However, the co-op is totally different from working in the same workplace. We know that as a police officer, you need to pass the physical test such as runing jumping lifting and other stuff, also you need pass the training. If you are luck en ough and also a hardworking person which gives good impression in the workplace you co-op, maybe you can get the job.

and also your working experience in china as a lawyer or the field related to the justice system will help you gain some advantage on job hunting.

Fair enough. Thanks for the info!

Please do continue to share your study and job-hunting experience with us! We all will appreciate your contribution!

SW added.

 

[蜀山剑侠]

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请问，国内法学硕士可以申请读LL.B吗？
我查了UBC和NAC的资料，都把我搞糊涂了

 

[beeknight]

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请问，国内法学硕士可以申请读LL.B吗？
我查了UBC和NAC的资料，都把我搞糊涂了

可以。有本科学历就可以申请LL.B.。

多说一句，我觉得NAC的认证服务对国人意义不大。如果你的本科教育背景在英美法系国家，那之前所学课程得到认可（从而减免部分加拿大LL.B.课程）的可能性还大些。

我曾跟NAC的一个负责人通过邮件，她直接建议我不必在NAC上浪费时间，因为花钱评估后的结果十有八九会让我老老实实读完3年LL.B.。我在英国的LL.M.学位也不管用。

 

[蜀山剑侠]

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谢谢你的指教 ：）
可是UBC的要求上写要NAC的信啊
我正在和他们联系当中。
UBC的J.D就是LL.B吗，好像又不同？

 

[蜀山剑侠]

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http://www.law.ubc.ca/prospective/nondegree/index.html

Graduates of foreign law schools who have been approved by the National Committee on Accreditation and received advanced standing, or graduates of Québec civil law schools may apply to complete two years of legal studies at UBC Law to obtain a J.D.

Applicants must submit all transcripts, an LSAT score, a personal statement, and two letters of reference.

 

[beeknight]

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http://www.law.ubc.ca/prospective/nondegree/index.html

Graduates of foreign law schools who have been approved by the National Committee on Accreditation and received advanced standing, or graduates of Québec civil law schools may apply to complete two years of legal studies at UBC Law to obtain a J.D.

Applicants must submit all transcripts, an LSAT score, a personal statement, and two letters of reference.

意思是如果你通过NAC的评估，得到了"Advanced Standing"（就是承认你原来的一部分法律教育），那就可以用2年完成其他人要用3年才能完成的J.D.。

美国向来用J.D.，加拿大原来都用LL.B.（除了U of T）。但这两年加拿大法学院也开窍了――能说Doctor干嘛要说是Bachelor呢，所以各法学院纷纷把LL.B.改成J.D.，换汤不换药而已。

 

[beeknight]

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谢谢你的指教 ：）
可是UBC的要求上写要NAC的信啊
我正在和他们联系当中。
UBC的J.D就是LL.B吗，好像又不同？

NAC评估应该不是必要条件。

但很多学校会建议你去NAC评估――当初我向他们咨询的时候也被“建议”先去找NAC。

我跟他们解释了NAC给我的答复后，他们就不再提这茬了。

你可以再看看NAC网站上的介绍。但我的理解是大陆法系的法学教育背景（除非是魁北克的）是不会得到NAC承认的。

之前我还上过一个西方人的论坛，看到很多英国LL.B.毕业的人都对NAC不满意，说服务贵、慢且不承认他们的教育背景。

 

[蜀山剑侠]

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可是没有common law的教育背景，再加上没有NAC的认可的话，申请UBC几乎没有希望。楼上考LSAT了吗？
感觉如何？

 

[beeknight]

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可是没有common law的教育背景，再加上没有NAC的认可的话，申请UBC几乎没有希望。楼上考LSAT了吗？
感觉如何？

我的理解跟你不一样：

Common Law背景不是申请法学院的前提条件。加拿大的法学院和美国的一样，都必须是学生的第二学位。也就是说你必须先有一个学士学位，然后才能报考法学院学法律。

所以对于本地学生来说，有“common law”背景是不可能的事情。同理，我认为这样的要求也不会强加于在别国取得了学士学位的申请人身上。

NAC的认证应该是自愿的。法学院有义务向海外学生推荐，但不应该要求他们必须去NAC认证。毕竟也要花好几百加币的认证费。对于根本没有common law背景的申请人来说，NAC认证纯粹是浪费时间和金钱。

建议你再向UBC确认一下入学要求。

我没考过LSAT，目前也不打算考。

 

[beeknight]

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http://www.law.ubc.ca/files/pdf/booklets/final_JD.pdf

这个PDF文档的第13页，Admission Requirements - Admission to First Year JD Program应该是一个普通JD申请者应该具备的申请条件。

 

[蜀山剑侠]

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