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6w permanent or 8W contractor , which is better?

回复: 6w permanent or 8W contractor , which is better?

我们公司以前也是提供和政府类似的退休金,现在已经改为DSP了。自己算一下,20年后DSP+ RRSP,拿到手不比70%的年薪低,而且可以灵活支取,可以作为遗产留给子女。更不会限制个人职业发展,也不会因公司倒闭而血本无归。

政府给出的薪水通常比市场行情低30%以上,就是被裁的机会极低,但是人浮于事,按资排辈的情况严重。养老金福利多出来的部分最多相当于普通公司的年薪的10%,算来算去实际所得还是低。
 
回复: 6w permanent or 8W contractor , which is better?

理论上你可以拿以下一种或几种退休(或/及)养老金(它们是各自独立的):

1)Old age security,条件是年满65周岁,外加居住满10年
2)CPP(或QPP,如果是Quebec居民),前提是你曾经工作交纳过这个CPP,你能拿到的金额,也与你交纳的金额和年限相关
3)公司的Pension计划(非RRSP,大公司基本都有),一般是defined benefit plan(DBP),或者是defined contribution plan(DCP),或者两者混合。如果是DCP(似乎越来越多的公司是DCP),那么公司只管定期的Contribution,之后投资增长的收益或损失都归员工自己,所以你退休后公司的经营好坏与你拿钱的多少无关,只要你在职期间,公司有钱make regular contribution就行。这个适用于Permanent员工
4)RRSP,属于你个人的养老帐户,每年报税后由CRA确定你可以存入的RRSP额度上限,RRSP的好处是税金递延到退休时,可以以当时较低的税率支取你的帐户资金。

有人告诉我CPP的钱是大家平分,但必须连续交10年以上,对吗?
 
回复: 6w permanent or 8W contractor , which is better?

我们公司以前也是提供和政府类似的退休金,现在已经改为DSP了。自己算一下,20年后DSP+ RRSP,拿到手不比70%的年薪低,而且可以灵活支取,可以作为遗产留给子女。更不会限制个人职业发展,也不会因公司倒闭而血本无归。

政府给出的薪水通常比市场行情低30%以上,就是被裁的机会极低,但是人浮于事,按资排辈的情况严重。养老金福利多出来的部分最多相当于普通公司的年薪的10%,算来算去实际所得还是低。

有道理, 给政府打工一辈子,要是一退休就呜呼了,岂不是亏大了? 在公司打工,好歹还能留点给家人.

政府就是这点不好,把人绑得太死,我原来在国内做公务员,不离开单位,啥都好,房子几乎免费的,车随便开,退休更是没问题. 但人离开就啥也没有了,:wdb5:别人从企业出来的,好歹有点辞职费和养老保险
 
回复: 6w permanent or 8W contractor , which is better?

有道理, 给政府打工一辈子,要是一退休就呜呼了,岂不是亏大了? 在公司打工,好歹还能留点给家人.

想想大城市的市长和MP才拿10万年薪左右,一个政府高级电工拿12万市民就要抗议,收入能好到哪里去?
 

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回复: 6w permanent or 8W contractor , which is better?

我们公司以前也是提供和政府类似的退休金,现在已经改为DSP了。自己算一下,20年后DSP+ RRSP,拿到手不比70%的年薪低,而且可以灵活支取,可以作为遗产留给子女。更不会限制个人职业发展,也不会因公司倒闭而血本无归。

政府给出的薪水通常比市场行情低30%以上,就是被裁的机会极低,但是人浮于事,按资排辈的情况严重。养老金福利多出来的部分最多相当于普通公司的年薪的10%,算来算去实际所得还是低。
谁说政府的工资低30%, 下面是一个IT CS-03的工资,一般经验5年都可以申请。不知道你的公司给多高的工资?
Canada Revenue Agency
Notice of Job Opportunity


Selection Process Number
2006-5431-HQ -2423-1197


Advertisement Number
00005431


CS--03, Information Technology Project Officer, Headquarters (HQ), Bilingual imperative, BBB/BBB
CS--03, Information Technology Project Officer, Headquarters (HQ), English

Permanent lateral move

Salary range:
$ 64,569 to $ 83,266 annually

Who can apply:
Persons employed in the Canada Revenue Agency (CRA)

Final date for receipt of applications:
August 31, 2008
4:30 PM EST - Eastern Standard Time


General Information:

Amendment:
-The closing date has been changed to August 31, 2008
-Applications will be kept on file until October 31, 2008


As this selection process is on going until August 31, 2008, applications will be considered on a monthly basis. By registering through this process, candidates who meet the education, experience and other requirements are submitting their candidacy for consideration when vacancies arise within the Information Technology Branch of the Canada Revenue Agency. When positions become available placement criteria will be applied for qualified candidates in the pool. Applications will be kept on file until October 31, 2008.

AMENDMENT - additional information
Pre-requisite criteria for a Permanent Lateral Move require that the candidate be substantively at an equivalent or higher group and level for what is indicated on the poster. Candidates who are acting are not considered to be substantively on that acting's group and level.

Please note that a Permanent Lateral Move does not indicate a tenure change from term to indeterminate.</B>


This selection process is not a PQP process and the results of the competencies assessed will not be portable. However, the results of this selection process may also be used to staff similar positions. Candidates must apply 'on-line'. Candidates must clearly and fully demonstrate on their application that they meet the pre-requisites. Failure to do so will result in your application being rejected without further consideration. Please retain your confirmation number. Note that an email is NOT considered an 'on-line' application for the purposes of this selection process. If you encounter technical difficulties in submitting your on-line application, please notify the contact person for this particular selection process on or before the final date for receipt of applications. A complete application must be received online by the final date and time.

You must indicate which linguistic profile or profiles you are applying for. Various pools will be established based on the language requirements of the positions being staffed. The onus is on the candidate to have valid Second Language Evaluation (SLE) results at the time of placement.

All communication methods, including email, are at some risk to access by unauthorized parties. However, the security risk when using email is slight, and it is an efficient way to communicate (low cost and high speed). For this selection process, we may find that email is the most efficient way to communicate with you. Candidates who apply to selection processes should include an email address that accepts email from unknown users (some email systems block these types of email). If you do NOT wish to receive results by email it is your responsibility to inform us.

The Canada Revenue Agency is committed to the values and principles of employment equity. If you require any accommodations (i.e., an alternative method of assessment, a technical aid, accessibility requirements, etc.) at any stage of the assessment process, please contact us so that we can take the appropriate measures to facilitate your full participation.

The onus is on the candidate to be informed regarding recourse rights and procedures.


For detailed information on the new selection process and candidates' recourse rights, please click on this site:

Info Sheet on the New Selection Process

Job description and duties:

Plans and coordinates the regional implementation of national projects.

Provides advice and guidance to IT management and staff on IT services and requirements that must be met by the regional and national organizations to comply with national priorities and strategies for service delivery.

Monitors IT operations and activities to assess regional adherence to ITB policies and procedures and recommends appropriate corrective action when necessary.

Researches and provides to IT Management information and analysis regarding program integrity and processes, program expenditures, resource utilizations, etc.

Represents national and regional IT Management on national and regional committees and projects.

Experience:

The experience requirements outlined in this Job Notice relate to all jobs advertised on this Job Notice unless specifically indicated otherwise.

Recent experience in the following:

A1)
**Recent and significant experience in the distributed computing environment (DCE) in the delivery of IT support services, technical and user support .

OR

A2)
**Recent and significant experience in the planning or coordination of national or regional projects.

AND

B) *Recent participation in the planning or coordination of infrastructure initiatives.

** Recent and significant experience means at least two years within the last five years.

* Recent participation means within the last three years.

Education:

University Degree or College Diploma in computer science, information technology, information management or another specialty relevant to the position to be staffed. (**Individuals who presently occupy or previously occupied a CS position at CRA are deemed to meet this minimum CS Education Standard.)


Contact: Holly Woo
Phone: 613-948-7037
Fax: 613-948-7072
Email: Holly.Woo@cra-arc.gc.ca


Conditions of employment:


The following may be required for some positions: availability for overtime, travelling, shift work, standby, call-back.

Reliability/Security: Reliability Status

For a list of prerequisites, assessment standards, conditions of employment and placement criteria, please see Statement of staffing requirements.



Apply Online

Date posted: 2006-09-08





Canada Revenue Agency
Statement of Staffing Requirements


Selection Process Number
2006-5431-HQ -2423-1197


Advertisement Number
00005431


CS--03, Information Technology Project Officer, Headquarters (HQ), Bilingual imperative, BBB/BBB
CS--03, Information Technology Project Officer, Headquarters (HQ), English

Permanent lateral move

PREREQUISITES

Education:

University Degree or College Diploma in computer science, information technology, information management or another specialty relevant to the position to be staffed. (**Individuals who presently occupy or previously occupied a CS position at CRA are deemed to meet this minimum CS Education Standard.)

Experience:

The experience requirements outlined in this Job Notice relate to all jobs advertised on this Job Notice unless specifically indicated otherwise.

Recent experience in the following:

A1)
**Recent and significant experience in the distributed computing environment (DCE) in the delivery of IT support services, technical and user support .

OR

A2)
**Recent and significant experience in the planning or coordination of national or regional projects.

AND

B) *Recent participation in the planning or coordination of infrastructure initiatives.

** Recent and significant experience means at least two years within the last five years.

* Recent participation means within the last three years.



ASSESSMENT STANDARDS

You may be assessed using one or more of the following tools:
  • standardized test(s)
  • written examination(s)
  • interview(s)
  • reference/performance check(s)
  • Employee Performance Management Report
  • Questionnaire(s)
  • Other tools


Must meet the minimum requirements of 60% in each the following:

  • Clients Service Orientation;
  • Analytical Thinking;
  • Effective Interative Communication;
  • Dependability;
  • Information Technology.




Conditions of employment:


The following may be required for some positions: availability for overtime, travelling, shift work, standby, call-back.

Reliability/Security: Reliability Status



PLACEMENT CRITERIA
Placement decisions will be based on one or more of the following criteria:
  • Availability
  • Employment Equity may be used as a placement criteria in areas where there is a demonstrated under-representation. Qualified candidates will be contacted prior to the placement stage and invited to self-identify if they wish to be considered as members of any of the EE designated groups.
  • Geographic Location
  • Budgetary Considerations
  • Organizational Criteria
  • Depth, Breadth, Type and/or Quality of Work-specific Experience
  • More-in-depth Assessment of a Qualification/ Competency Already Assessed Linked to Work-specific Requirements
  • Additional Qualification/Competency linked to Work-specific Requirements
  • Level of One or More Qualifications/Competencies
Notwithstanding the results of this selection process, the hiring manager will consider affected employees or preferred status employees prior to any permanent appointments being made from this pool.
 

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回复: 6w permanent or 8W contractor , which is better?

在给你个CS-04的,自欺欺人不好。
Canada Revenue Agency
Notice of Job Opportunity
Selection Process Number
2007-6965-HQ -2427-6965

Advertisement Number
00006965

CS--04, IT Senior Specialist, NCR and Summerside PEI, English
CS--04, IT Senior Specialist, NCR and Summerside PEI, Bilingual imperative, BBB/BBB


Lateral move / Permanent / Acting / Term / Temporary lateral move / Permanent lateral move

Salary range:
$ 77113 to $ 99070

Who can apply:
Employees of the Canada Revenue Agency

Final date for receipt of applications:
January 25, 2008
11:30 PM EST - Eastern Standard Time


General Information:

Positions to be staffed are in the CRA IT Branch, Solutions, in the NCR including Summerside PEI.

Two pools will be established with this process. Should you wish to be considered for both English essential positions AND bilingual imperative BBB/BBB positions, please ensure you apply for both positions by selecting both boxes at the beginning of this application form.

This process may be used to staff similar positions.

All communication methods, including email, are at some risk to access by unauthorized parties. However, the security risk when using email is slight, and it is an efficient way to communicate (low cost and high speed). For this selection process, we may find that email is the most efficient way to communicate with you. Candidates who apply to selection processes should include an email address that accepts email from unknown users (some email systems block these types of email). If you do not wish to receive results by email it is your responsibility to inform us.

Application of Competency Results from Other Processes

Please note that this is not a Pre-Qualification Process. Candidates who already have valid results from other standardized tests will not be able to use these results in this process. Only the results of the Writing Skills Test will be portable to this process. Candidates, who have written this test and obtained the minimum required score, may submit proof of mark in lieu of re-writing by faxing your results, by February 1, 2008, to Naomi Purdy at (613) 948-1067. If, after your application has been submitted, you obtain the threshold level for the Writing Skills Test through voluntary or subsequent assessment, it is your responsibility to inform Naomi Purdy, per above contact information.

Applicants MUST use the CRA ONLINE application form. Failure to do so will result in the application being rejected without further consideration. Please retain the confirmation number.

Only fully completed on-line applications, including the résumé and proof of education (**see education in SOSR), submitted at the time of application will be accepted. Failure to do so will result in the application being screened out without further consideration. It is the candidate's responsibility to fully demonstrate, providing sufficient detail, how they meet the prerequisite criteria i.e. education and experience. Applications will not be retained if insufficient/incomplete information is provided.

The Solutions area of Information Technology Branch (ITB) has recently approved the creation of CS04 IT Senior Specialist positions for the application areas. These newly created positions will allow us to position ourselves for the future by securing a resource within a division with both expert knowledge of the application business and expert technical knowledge. Candidates must have leadership and presentation skills.

For more information, please visit the 2007 CS-04 IT Senior Specialist Information page

If you have any questions regarding the selection process, please email: IT/TI-CS04-2007

For detailed information on the new selection process and candidates' recourse rights, please click on this site:

Info Sheet on the New Selection Process

Job description and duties:
The CS-04 IT Senior Specialist will work under the direction of an IT Director for the benefit of the whole division. The individual(s) may perform some or all of the following duties:


Directing, mentoring, coaching and training of IT staff. Serve as a primary source of knowledge for others

Leading application performance and quality improvements

Analyzing complex high-level and detailed business requirements to provide estimates and guidance to clients and ITB senior management

Leading and coaching in the resolution of highly complex problems

Liaising with Architecture, Dev Center and Quality Assurance for validation/deployment/dissemination of standards, guidelines and processes

Partnering with Quality Assurance to promote application alignment with the recommended Quality standards and processes

Taking the lead in the event of a major crisis

Representing the Agency
For more information, please visit the 2007 CS-04 IT Senior Specialist Information page.



Experience:

The experience requirements outlined in this Job Notice relate to all jobs advertised on this Job Notice unless specifically indicated otherwise.

Important Note: Four sets of experience factor fields have been provided to capture your experience. You MUST meet experience factor one (1) AND at least one of experience factors two (2) to four (4). You are required to type ‘NONE’ in mandatory fields if you do not use one or two of sets of experience factor fields.

The experience requirements outlined in the Job Notice relate to all jobs advertised on this Job Notice unless specifically indicated otherwise.

*Recent and **significant technical experience in at least two of the following areas:

1) Experience in the complete lifecycle of enterprise class IT applications including planning, analyzing, designing, developing, testing, implementing, evaluating and maintaining.

AND

2) Experience translating business needs into artefacts related to an IT discipline

OR

3) Experience identifying, developing, establishing and implementing policies, standards, guidelines or methodologies related to an IT discipline

OR

4) Experience in the management of significant incidents and problems in the context of an IT discipline



IT Disciplines may include but are not limited to: Application Development, Database Development, Quality, Security, Infrastructure Management, Architecture (Enterprise, Business, Application, Data, Technology, Security)

*Recent experience is defined as within the last eight (8) years

**Significant technical experience is defined as performing duties comparable to CS-03 group and level or higher for a minimum of 5 years. At least 4 of the 5 years experience must have been acquired performing duties comparable to an IT Specialist or an IT Senior Specialist including acting assignments.

Candidates must ALSO e-mail a résumé and a list of the positions(s) held over the past eight (8) years with dates, group and level and job description title(s) to: IT/TI-CS04-2007.

Education:

A University Degree or College Diploma in Computer Science, Information Technology, Information Management or another speciality relevant to the position to be staffed;

OR

Any other University Degree with a minimum of 3 years relevant IT experience.

**Individuals who presently occupy or previously occupied a CS position at CRA are deemed to meet this minimum CS Education Standard.


Contact: Naomi Purdy
Phone: (613) 948-7054
Fax: (63) 948-1067
Email: naomi.purdy@cra-arc.gc.ca



Conditions of employment:


Overtime

Standby

Call back

Travel


Reliability/Security: Reliability Status

For a list of prerequisites, assessment standards, conditions of employment and placement criteria, please see Statement of staffing requirements.


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Apply Online

Date posted: 2007-12-21



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Canada Revenue Agency
Statement of Staffing Requirements
Selection Process Number
2007-6965-HQ -2427-6965

Advertisement Number
00006965

CS--04, IT Senior Specialist, NCR and Summerside PEI, English
CS--04, IT Senior Specialist, NCR and Summerside PEI, Bilingual imperative, BBB/BBB


Lateral move / Permanent / Acting / Term / Temporary lateral move / Permanent lateral move

PREREQUISITES

Education:

A University Degree or College Diploma in Computer Science, Information Technology, Information Management or another speciality relevant to the position to be staffed;
OR

Any other University Degree with a minimum of 3 years relevant IT experience.

**Individuals who presently occupy or previously occupied a CS position at CRA are deemed to meet this minimum CS Education Standard.

Experience:

The experience requirements outlined in this Job Notice relate to all jobs advertised on this Job Notice unless specifically indicated otherwise.

Important Note: Four sets of experience factor fields have been provided to capture your experience. You MUST meet experience factor one (1) AND at least one of experience factors two (2) to four (4). You are required to type ‘NONE’ in mandatory fields if you do not use one or two of sets of experience factor fields.

The experience requirements outlined in the Job Notice relate to all jobs advertised on this Job Notice unless specifically indicated otherwise.

*Recent and **significant technical experience in at least two of the following areas:

1) Experience in the complete lifecycle of enterprise class IT applications including planning, analyzing, designing, developing, testing, implementing, evaluating and maintaining.

AND

2) Experience translating business needs into artefacts related to an IT discipline

OR

3) Experience identifying, developing, establishing and implementing policies, standards, guidelines or methodologies related to an IT discipline

OR

4) Experience in the management of significant incidents and problems in the context of an IT discipline



IT Disciplines may include but are not limited to: Application Development, Database Development, Quality, Security, Infrastructure Management, Architecture (Enterprise, Business, Application, Data, Technology, Security)

*Recent experience is defined as within the last eight (8) years

**Significant technical experience is defined as performing duties comparable to CS-03 group and level or higher for a minimum of 5 years. At least 4 of the 5 years experience must have been acquired performing duties comparable to an IT Specialist or an IT Senior Specialist including acting assignments.

Candidates must ALSO e-mail a résumé and a list of the positions(s) held over the past eight (8) years with dates, group and level and job description title(s) to: IT/TI-CS04-2007.



ASSESSMENT STANDARDS

You may be assessed using one or more of the following tools:


standardized test(s)
written examination(s)
interview(s)
reference/performance check(s)
Employee Performance Management Report

COMPETENCIES
Writing Skills (level 3) – Standardized Test – CRA Competency

Candidates must meet the minimum requirement of 70% in each the following:

Conflict Management

Client Service Orientation

Effective Interactive Communication

Teamwork and Cooperation

Impact and Influence

Information Technology






Conditions of employment:


Overtime

Standby

Call back

Travel


Reliability/Security: Reliability Status



PLACEMENT CRITERIA

Placement decisions will be based on one or more of the following criteria:

Depth, breadth, type, and/or performance quality of work-specific experience
Level/degree of one or more competencies/qualifications

Further assessment of a qualification already assessed linked to work-specific requirements

New additional qualification/competency linked to work-specific requirements

Employment Equity (EE) may be used as placement criteria. In such cases, qualified candidates will be contacted prior to the placement stage and invited to self-identify if they wish to be considered as members of any EE designated groups

Geographic Location

Availability of candidate

Organizational criteria
 

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回复: 6w permanent or 8W contractor , which is better?

想想大城市的市长和MP才拿10万年薪左右,一个政府高级电工拿12万市民就要抗议,收入能好到哪里去?
市长和MP都有自己的BUSINESS, 否则这点工资够干什么。OTTAWA的市长是CALIAN公司的老板,是亿万富翁,还在乎几万工资。前总理PAUL MATIN更有钱,查查PAUL MATIN的船运公司就知道他的身价了,不少于十亿美元。去年萨省有一个200英亩的麦田被火烧毁,损失几百万,这个农场的主人是TORY的MP,他还有1000英亩的土地。查查资料就知道了。
 

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回复: 6w permanent or 8W contractor , which is better?

政府计对CONTRACTOR和PERM是按1.5:1计算工资的。比如PERM 6W, CON- 一般9-10W, 包括中介费。合同长的,比如3年+3年OPTIONAL的,可能会稍微低一些。而且每次新项目会安市场价从新竞标。有一个例子,他的级别相当于CS-04的高级,合同从2001到2009 年底 (不是一个合同,多个,但没有中断),算算他的总收入多少?
 
回复: 6w permanent or 8W contractor , which is better?

本不想和你比收入,不过相对于你那位退休的同事才拿9万年薪,我30岁的时候就已经拿10万年薪了,外加11.5%的DSP。我们公司的薪水比其他公司低10%,就因为我们的退休金福利好些,稳定一些,同等职位其他公司是11~12万,contractor是14-16万左右。老板跟我说,希望我能在这个公司贡献一辈子,但目前我还没这个打算,虽然我在大公司已经做到leader,但实际上大公司分工太细,限制很多(譬如加薪要总部批准),论资排辈的现象也很严重,并不能充分发挥个人能力。
 
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有人告诉我CPP的钱是大家平分,但必须连续交10年以上,对吗?

不对。你交CPP的时间越长,钱越多,退休后你从CPP拿到的月退休金就越高(不过有Maxium参考网址:http://www.hrsdc.gc.ca/en/isp/pub/factsheets/rates.shtml

部分常见问题转自http://www.hrsdc.gc.ca/en/isp/pub/factsheets/retire.shtml#b

What is a CPP retirement pension?
A CPP retirement pension is a monthly benefit paid to people who have contributed to the Canada Pension Plan.

The pension is designed to replace about 25 percent of the earnings on which a person's contributions were based.

How do I qualify?
You qualify for a CPP retirement pension if you have made at least one valid contribution (payment) to the Plan and if:
  • you are at least 65; or
  • you are between 60 and 64, and meet the earning requirements set out in the legislation.
Your retirement pension does not start automatically. You must apply for it (unless you already receive a CPP disability benefit and turn 65, at which point your disability benefit automatically changes to a retirement pension).

How does the CPP calculate my retirement pension?
Your CPP retirement pension is based on how much, and for how long, you contributed to the Plan (or to both the CPP and the Quebec Pension Plan). The age at which you choose to retire also affects the amount you receive.

The CPP protects your pension by making certain adjustments before calculating 25 percent of the earnings on which you contributed over your working life. For example, some low-earning periods during your career are "dropped out", so they do not reduce the amount of your pension.

The CPP retirement pension is indexed to the Consumer Price Index annually. The average monthly retirement pension in 2004 was $457.99.
 
回复: 6w permanent or 8W contractor , which is better?

不对。你交CPP的时间越长,钱越多,退休后你从CPP拿到的月退休金就越高(不过有Maxium参考网址:http://www.hrsdc.gc.ca/en/isp/pub/factsheets/rates.shtml

部分常见问题转自http://www.hrsdc.gc.ca/en/isp/pub/factsheets/retire.shtml#b

What is a CPP retirement pension?
A CPP retirement pension is a monthly benefit paid to people who have contributed to the Canada Pension Plan.

The pension is designed to replace about 25 percent of the earnings on which a person's contributions were based.

How do I qualify?
You qualify for a CPP retirement pension if you have made at least one valid contribution (payment) to the Plan and if:
  • you are at least 65; or
  • you are between 60 and 64, and meet the earning requirements set out in the legislation.
Your retirement pension does not start automatically. You must apply for it (unless you already receive a CPP disability benefit and turn 65, at which point your disability benefit automatically changes to a retirement pension).

How does the CPP calculate my retirement pension?
Your CPP retirement pension is based on how much, and for how long, you contributed to the Plan (or to both the CPP and the Quebec Pension Plan). The age at which you choose to retire also affects the amount you receive.

The CPP protects your pension by making certain adjustments before calculating 25 percent of the earnings on which you contributed over your working life. For example, some low-earning periods during your career are "dropped out", so they do not reduce the amount of your pension.

The CPP retirement pension is indexed to the Consumer Price Index annually. The average monthly retirement pension in 2004 was $457.99.

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回复: 6w permanent or 8W contractor , which is better?

本不想和你比收入,不过相对于你那位退休的同事才拿9万年薪,我30岁的时候就已经拿10万年薪了,外加11.5%的DSP。我们公司的薪水比其他公司低10%,就因为我们的退休金福利好些,稳定一些,同等职位其他公司是11~12万,contractor是14-16万左右。老板跟我说,希望我能在这个公司贡献一辈子,但目前我还没这个打算,虽然我在大公司已经做到leader,但实际上大公司分工太细,限制很多(譬如加薪要总部批准),论资排辈的现象也很严重,并不能充分发挥个人能力。
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回复: 6w permanent or 8W contractor , which is better?

打政府工的收入估计是中间大,两头小吧,平均主义现象较私营企业严重吧。

换句话说,政府的低级职位工作比外面公司的低级职位pay的起点高,但高级职位却比私营公司的类似高级职位pay得少。

BTW,2007年多伦多市长和议员的收入是:(据http://www.toronto.ca/city_council/salaries.htm#salary)

Mayor $160,000.00
Councillor $95,000.00

但是他们各有自己的报销费用和办公室预算额度,实际利益比表面的收入还是多不少的。当然跟大公司的董事或高管还是差一些的。
 

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回复: 6w permanent or 8W contractor , which is better?

本不想和你比收入,不过相对于你那位退休的同事才拿9万年薪,我30岁的时候就已经拿10万年薪了,外加11.5%的DSP。我们公司的薪水比其他公司低10%,就因为我们的退休金福利好些,稳定一些,同等职位其他公司是11~12万,contractor是14-16万左右。老板跟我说,希望我能在这个公司贡献一辈子,但目前我还没这个打算,虽然我在大公司已经做到leader,但实际上大公司分工太细,限制很多(譬如加薪要总部批准),论资排辈的现象也很严重,并不能充分发挥个人能力。

任你随便说,我给出的信息都有可靠的来源, 再给一个CONTRACTOR的, 这个是政府的, 你们可以申请.这个职位不高,只是中级报告CS-02到CS-03,干IT一看就知道, 看看收入就知道了.(每年按245 天算). 别看时间短, 那是因为政府的财政年度是到三月底, 到时候要RENEW, 所以只给到三月底. 如果干的好,中间不会断,最少RENEW半年.算是试用期吧.猜猜CS-04拿多少?

https://www1.sisystems.com/mp/opp/show_opp.cfm/oppID.17462/si.html

Date Posted: 15-January-2008 Opportunity ID: 17462Branch: Ottawa Status: OpenSpecialization:Software Development
Consultant Required: Consultant - PL/SQL DeveloperJob/Duties/Deliverables: On behalf of our client, Si Systems is searching for an experience PL/SQL developer. The sucessful candidate will be tasked with the following:

-Packages, Procedures, Functions, Database Triggers using PL/SQL for an Oracle database
-Assist Oracle DBA with setting up Oracle Discoverer in the test and production environments;
-Extract data from Oracle databases using Oracle Discoverer

Job Requirements:

-Enhanced Reliability or higher
-5+ years experience development with PL/SQL
-Experience with Oracle Discoverer
Must Have:Enhanced Reliability or higher (Mandatory)
5+ years experience development with PL/SQL (Mandatory)
Experience with Oracle Discoverer (Mandatory)
Work Environment:Start Date:01-February-2008End Date:31-March-2008 Hourly Rate: $480 - $516Date Posted: 15-January-2008 Opportunity ID: 17462Branch: Ottawa Status: OpenSpecialization:Software Development
Consultant Required: Consultant - PL/SQL DeveloperJob/Duties/Deliverables: On behalf of our client, Si Systems is searching for an experience PL/SQL developer. The sucessful candidate will be tasked with the following:

-Packages, Procedures, Functions, Database Triggers using PL/SQL for an Oracle database
-Assist Oracle DBA with setting up Oracle Discoverer in the test and production environments;
-Extract data from Oracle databases using Oracle Discoverer

Job Requirements:

-Enhanced Reliability or higher
-5+ years experience development with PL/SQL
-Experience with Oracle Discoverer
Must Have:Enhanced Reliability or higher (Mandatory)
5+ years experience development with PL/SQL (Mandatory)
Experience with Oracle Discoverer (Mandatory)
Work Environment:Start Date:01-February-2008End Date:31-March-2008 Hourly Rate: $480 - $516
 

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回复: 6w permanent or 8W contractor , which is better?

打政府工的收入估计是中间大,两头小吧,平均主义现象较私营企业严重吧。

换句话说,政府的低级职位工作比外面公司的低级职位pay的起点高,但高级职位却比私营公司的类似高级职位pay得少。

BTW,2007年多伦多市长和议员的收入是:(据http://www.toronto.ca/city_council/salaries.htm#salary)

Mayor $160,000.00
Councillor $95,000.00

但是他们各有自己的报销费用和办公室预算额度,实际利益比表面的收入还是多不少的。当然跟大公司的董事或高管还是差一些的。
加拿大工资收入(不包括分红)最高的CEO或总裁是哪个公司的?
提示, 不是500强,也不是私企.
 
回复: 6w permanent or 8W contractor , which is better?

contractor和permant薪水差多少%是合理的?

前面说是1.5倍合理,就是contractor 年薪9万相当于permenant年薪6万。但是contractor大多是按小时算薪水,换算成年薪大概可以按每年1700-1800小时乘过去。也就是说$50ph相当于6万,$60ph相当于7万...差不多1.2的系数。
请高手指正
 
回复: 6w permanent or 8W contractor , which is better?

前面说是1.5倍合理,就是contractor 年薪9万相当于permenant年薪6万。但是contractor大多是按小时算薪水,换算成年薪大概可以按每年1700-1800小时乘过去。也就是说$50ph相当于6万,$60ph相当于7万...差不多1.2的系数。
请高手指正

这个真是见仁见智。

前两天朋友聚会,都是搞IT的,大多数permenant。问一位contractor老兄C和P之间的比值。

结果这位老兄说同等数值,他选C。听的人直接就晕了。
 

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