13北京91等ME，1，100全球91看本周末下周初法庭决定。。
- 主题发起人 ruth0924
- 发布时间 2011-12-12
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无论怎样，顶，马上就下周了，看结果呗
无论怎样，顶，马上就下周了，看结果呗
回复: 关注7月16日-25日这个时间点，法官会最终坚定地站到我们这边吗？？？！！！
我不认为16-25日出了不利我们的消息就代表完了。我的直觉现在并没有感到恐慌。我的那个比较大的行动，也不是几天能安排好的，赶不上16-25这个日期。
我不认为16-25日出了不利我们的消息就代表完了。我的直觉现在并没有感到恐慌。我的那个比较大的行动，也不是几天能安排好的，赶不上16-25这个日期。
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这个点说的很清楚，是法官要做决定这个案子是否有利我们，还是继续二次开庭。。。没拖进集体诉讼就还不算坏。。。即便集体诉讼，也不能说完全没希望。。。
你的行动自己安排就好，没人非要你赶在这个日期，尽力就好。。。
这个点说的很清楚，是法官要做决定这个案子是否有利我们，还是继续二次开庭。。。没拖进集体诉讼就还不算坏。。。即便集体诉讼，也不能说完全没希望。。。
你的行动自己安排就好，没人非要你赶在这个日期，尽力就好。。。
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最后编辑: 2012-07-19
回复: 关注7月16日-25日这个时间点，法官会最终坚定地站到我们这边吗？？？！！！
Ruth姐姐是大善人。可是我怕CIC报复我啊，到时候对我严格背调，找茬拒签。还有我的照片几个月来一直在加拿大报纸出现，也有被种族主义者追踪的可能吧。怕怕怕怕怕。。。。。。。。。。。。。
我的斯德哥尔摩综合征来自方方面面。。。。。。。。
Ruth姐姐是大善人。可是我怕CIC报复我啊，到时候对我严格背调，找茬拒签。还有我的照片几个月来一直在加拿大报纸出现，也有被种族主义者追踪的可能吧。怕怕怕怕怕。。。。。。。。。。。。。
我的斯德哥尔摩综合征来自方方面面。。。。。。。。
回复: 关注7月16日-25日这个时间点，法官会最终坚定地站到我们这边吗？？？！！！
The options are:
1. give us what we want and make the Minister angry,
2. set hearing dates for all the cases and disturb everyone or
3. toss us into the class-action lawsuit and make us angry.
我现在预测一下，答案是2
The options are:
1. give us what we want and make the Minister angry,
2. set hearing dates for all the cases and disturb everyone or
3. toss us into the class-action lawsuit and make us angry.
我现在预测一下，答案是2
回复: 关注7月16日-25日这个时间点，法官会最终坚定地站到我们这边吗？？？！！！
预测准的话，也不会是all cases，16日CIC会按计划推出35及154人的时间安排。。。还是不猜了，熬一个周吧。。。
预测准的话，也不会是all cases，16日CIC会按计划推出35及154人的时间安排。。。还是不猜了，熬一个周吧。。。
最后编辑: 2012-07-13
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律师真是个好专业，怎样都有的赚，名利双收。。。移民律师尤是。。。
律师真是个好专业，怎样都有的赚，名利双收。。。移民律师尤是。。。
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英文媒体Canada.com对CIC单方面不承认和Tim的二月协议的报道：
http://forum.canadameet.cc/showthread.php?t=583228
用的照片是我提供的430香港抗议照片。
从4月20几号到现在，有关430抗议的报道一直没有断过。什么叫前赴后继？
英文媒体Canada.com对CIC单方面不承认和Tim的二月协议的报道：
http://forum.canadameet.cc/showthread.php?t=583228
用的照片是我提供的430香港抗议照片。
从4月20几号到现在，有关430抗议的报道一直没有断过。什么叫前赴后继？
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世界日报的报道：C38护体，康尼理直气壮
http://forum.canadameet.cc/showthread.php?t=583093
世界日报的报道：C38护体，康尼理直气壮
http://forum.canadameet.cc/showthread.php?t=583093
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这份用英文发的报道极其有力量，时机也极其好，感谢天堂。。。贴出正文。。。有能力有渠道的同学可转发加其它媒体。。。
Would-be newcomers caught in legal quagmire
OTTAWA A group of would-be immigrants, who successfully sued the government over processing delays, will soon learn whether the bulk of them will remain out of luck in terms of their quest to come to Canada thanks to a new law that allows Citizenship and Immigration to toss out more than a quarter-of-a-million old applications.
The Federal Court ruled last month, just two weeks before Bill C-38 became law, that the government must process all the applications it takes into the system and that the delays, some going back nine years, were unjustified.
The court ordered the government to finalize the lead litigant’s case by Oct. 14.
While the court didn’t issue separate rulings for each of the 900 litigants involved, their lawyer Tim Leahy said an agreement was struck with the government in February to apply the principles in the lead case to the others.
But that was before Bill C-38 and in a document filed in Federal Court this week, the government argued the new law eliminating some 280,000 unassessed federal skilled worker applications received prior to February 27, 2008 and refunding their $130 million in application fees trumps their agreement.
“The applications of approximately 635 of the applicants involved in this proceeding were terminated by operation of law,” the government argued. “The minister is bound by the law of Canada and has no discretion to process these terminated applications contrary to the law.”
As for the litigants who are not among the 280,000 including those who received a positive assessment before March 29 government lawyers said they would present a proposal for processing those applications by July 16.
Leahy, however, argued his clients had a “vested right” to have their files processed according to the February agreement and that “the discretion is there” for Minister Jason Kenney to “behave honourably.
“Political ambition and ego impede the honourable administration of the law,” he argued, noting the new law doesn’t prevent the government from assigning new file numbers to his clients’ cases and finalizing them, nor does it nullify the February agreement.
Leahy further argued that more than two dozen of his clients were doubly penalized since they were instructed after the March 29 deadline to take costly medical exams, submit photographs and pay a head tax even though the government was planning to cancel their applications.
Leahy said Justice Robert Barnes must ultimately decide whether to order Citizenship and Immigration to honour the agreement and process all the files, including those impacted by Bill C-38. He could also order each case to be heard separately, Leahy said, or simply “wash his hands of the matter” and suggest the litigants get involved in a class action lawsuit that’s already in the works.
While Leahy isn’t currently involved, a handful of lawyers representing about 700 other applicants are in the process of preparing their case.
Lorne Waldman, an immigration lawyer involved in the pending suit, said the constitutional argument they will put forward will be that C-38 ought to be “struck down” because it denies applicants “due process.”
“These applicants applied in good faith, some as long as seven years ago. They paid their fees and were told that their applications would be processed,” he said.
“We are arguing that is it is inconsistent with our Charter and Bill of Rights to take away the right to apply to come to Canada in this fashion.”
The lawyers involved in the class action negotiated a 90-day reprieve with the federal government just before the bill received Royal Assent on June 29. The deal effectively prevents the government from destroying the files before the lawyers file their case in Federal Court.
It should be noted that a favourable ruling for Leahy’s litigants would have no bearing on the thousand of other applicants impacted by Bill C-38.
这份用英文发的报道极其有力量，时机也极其好，感谢天堂。。。贴出正文。。。有能力有渠道的同学可转发加其它媒体。。。
Would-be newcomers caught in legal quagmire
OTTAWA A group of would-be immigrants, who successfully sued the government over processing delays, will soon learn whether the bulk of them will remain out of luck in terms of their quest to come to Canada thanks to a new law that allows Citizenship and Immigration to toss out more than a quarter-of-a-million old applications.
The Federal Court ruled last month, just two weeks before Bill C-38 became law, that the government must process all the applications it takes into the system and that the delays, some going back nine years, were unjustified.
The court ordered the government to finalize the lead litigant’s case by Oct. 14.
While the court didn’t issue separate rulings for each of the 900 litigants involved, their lawyer Tim Leahy said an agreement was struck with the government in February to apply the principles in the lead case to the others.
But that was before Bill C-38 and in a document filed in Federal Court this week, the government argued the new law eliminating some 280,000 unassessed federal skilled worker applications received prior to February 27, 2008 and refunding their $130 million in application fees trumps their agreement.
“The applications of approximately 635 of the applicants involved in this proceeding were terminated by operation of law,” the government argued. “The minister is bound by the law of Canada and has no discretion to process these terminated applications contrary to the law.”
As for the litigants who are not among the 280,000 including those who received a positive assessment before March 29 government lawyers said they would present a proposal for processing those applications by July 16.
Leahy, however, argued his clients had a “vested right” to have their files processed according to the February agreement and that “the discretion is there” for Minister Jason Kenney to “behave honourably.
“Political ambition and ego impede the honourable administration of the law,” he argued, noting the new law doesn’t prevent the government from assigning new file numbers to his clients’ cases and finalizing them, nor does it nullify the February agreement.
Leahy further argued that more than two dozen of his clients were doubly penalized since they were instructed after the March 29 deadline to take costly medical exams, submit photographs and pay a head tax even though the government was planning to cancel their applications.
Leahy said Justice Robert Barnes must ultimately decide whether to order Citizenship and Immigration to honour the agreement and process all the files, including those impacted by Bill C-38. He could also order each case to be heard separately, Leahy said, or simply “wash his hands of the matter” and suggest the litigants get involved in a class action lawsuit that’s already in the works.
While Leahy isn’t currently involved, a handful of lawyers representing about 700 other applicants are in the process of preparing their case.
Lorne Waldman, an immigration lawyer involved in the pending suit, said the constitutional argument they will put forward will be that C-38 ought to be “struck down” because it denies applicants “due process.”
“These applicants applied in good faith, some as long as seven years ago. They paid their fees and were told that their applications would be processed,” he said.
“We are arguing that is it is inconsistent with our Charter and Bill of Rights to take away the right to apply to come to Canada in this fashion.”
The lawyers involved in the class action negotiated a 90-day reprieve with the federal government just before the bill received Royal Assent on June 29. The deal effectively prevents the government from destroying the files before the lawyers file their case in Federal Court.
It should be noted that a favourable ruling for Leahy’s litigants would have no bearing on the thousand of other applicants impacted by Bill C-38.
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世界日报很有才，发了张可以观赏啃你的兰花翘指的照片。。。
世界日报很正义，主动及时地为我们发了这么有力量的报道，全力为我们华人呼吁，为民喉舌，怎么感激都不为过。。。
世界日报很有才，发了张可以观赏啃你的兰花翘指的照片。。。
世界日报很正义，主动及时地为我们发了这么有力量的报道，全力为我们华人呼吁，为民喉舌，怎么感激都不为过。。。
回复: 关注7月16日-25日这个时间点，法官会最终坚定地站到我们这边吗？？？！！！
与我有关的谣言越来越多，请大家相信我，那些是谣言。
与我有关的谣言越来越多，请大家相信我，那些是谣言。
回复: 关注7月16日-25日这个时间点，法官会最终坚定地站到我们这边吗？？？！！！
只要是对的事情，我是没有任何理由不支持你，我相信支持你做的事就是支持对的事。。。别浪费时间管什么谣言，做自己的事就好。。。永远不要指望所有人都支持你，反对的声音恰恰告诉你，你所做的很重要，这也是她们选择骂你骂我而不去骂啃泥或一条死狗的原因。。。
只要是对的事情，我是没有任何理由不支持你，我相信支持你做的事就是支持对的事。。。别浪费时间管什么谣言，做自己的事就好。。。永远不要指望所有人都支持你，反对的声音恰恰告诉你，你所做的很重要，这也是她们选择骂你骂我而不去骂啃泥或一条死狗的原因。。。
回复: 关注7月16日-25日这个时间点，法官会最终坚定地站到我们这边吗？？？！！！
moi,不相信你，难道让我们相信CIC和那论坛上那些别有用心的马甲吗？我们心中自有杆秤，你为我们做的一切已经说明了一切！
moi,不相信你，难道让我们相信CIC和那论坛上那些别有用心的马甲吗？我们心中自有杆秤，你为我们做的一切已经说明了一切！
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