车开了三年,才发现春夏秋冬都在开雪胎,晕死,求介绍便宜的换胎地方

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他们昨天给的报价387已经包了安装了,
最近早上凉凉的,我都想夏天是不是要结束了。
着实很便宜,不知道是什么牌子的。我在costco买的轮胎和轮毂,轮胎是石桥的,轮毂是最便宜的那种铁的,安装费记得是60块钱(包括氮气),加上什么环境费啊税之类的,一共1000块的样子,我是17“的轮胎。
 
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着实很便宜,不知道是什么牌子的。我在costco买的轮胎和轮毂,轮胎是石桥的,轮毂是最便宜的那种铁的,安装费记得是60块钱(包括氮气),加上什么环境费啊税之类的,一共1000块的样子,我是17“的轮胎。
OMG,和你这胎比,我得偷笑了。CT是用MOTO MASTER, Costco是用Michellin
 
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米其林要好得多。有的人其实也不只是光注重价格的便宜,他们可能还会关心品牌什么的。我说的costco便宜,是指同样的品牌和型号相比较的情况下,costco最便宜。
michellin的名字我常看到,就有个小雪人的对吧,可是为什么COSTCO的人说,他们的安装才20快钱,4个胎?还有什么其他费用么?而且好像要自己先去ORDER,店里没我的胎。
 
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michellin的名字我常看到,就有个小雪人的对吧,可是为什么COSTCO的人说,他们的安装才20快钱,4个胎?还有什么其他费用么?而且好像要自己先去ORDER,店里没我的胎。
20块钱是你有你的另外一套胎有自己的轮毂,他们只是把轮胎+ 轮毂换上而已。我说的60,是指把轮胎从轮毂上扒下来,再按上新的轮胎,还要做动平衡,当然价格不同。
 
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michellin雪胎真棒。卡尔加里的冰雪地,开起来犹如平常。想想一次保险赔付多少钱?而且cosco换胎便宜,最近一次40多(第一次60多),让Canadian Tiredddddddd,给俺估价换一次胎,200多,都没问他们包含什么,落荒而逃。
 
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michellin雪胎真棒。卡尔加里的冰雪地,开起来犹如平常。想想一次保险赔付多少钱?而且cosco换胎便宜,让Canadian Tiredddddddd,给俺估价换一次胎,200多,都没问他们包含什么,落荒而逃。
俺是单独给雪胎买了轮毂自己换,这也算是来加拿大学会的唯一一件能自己动手的事情吧!惭愧中......

花钱是小事,关键是到了换胎季节得排长龙,闹心啊!
 
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俺是单独给雪胎买了轮毂自己换,这也算是来加拿大学会的唯一一件能自己动手的事情吧!惭愧中......

花钱是小事,关键是到了换胎季节得排长龙,闹心啊!
,对的,对的,我同事就是这么和我说,他说现在是淡季,可能换胎好点,我想换四季胎,这样省得换来换去了。那我原来的轮毂可以用么?还是换胎就要把轮毂换了呀,完全没概念。
 
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,对的,对的,我同事就是这么和我说,他说现在是淡季,可能换胎好点,我想换四季胎,这样省得换来换去了。那我原来的轮毂可以用么?还是换胎就要把轮毂换了呀,完全没概念。
把原装的轮毂装到四季胎上,入冬换雪胎时另外买轮毂,就买那种“黑不拉叽”的就可以了,反正冬天撒盐,没必要用好的轮毂!
 
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四季胎在低温时会变得很硬,与地面的摩擦力相对要差,所以刹车距离会长。而雪胎的橡胶相对较软,且轮胎的纹路也不同,可以在低温下保持相对的柔软度,能有效缩短刹车距离,在关键时刻可能会make a big difference。但在结冰的路面上,无论四季胎还是雪胎都会打滑,最好的建议是降低车速,保持车距,没必要时不出门。

由于橡胶软的原因,夏天开车用雪胎,除了磨损严重之外,噪音也很大,这一点在highway尤其明显。

没法给你建议说可不可以用雪胎过冬,毕竟没事时都无所谓,有事时则可能人命关天,要自己定夺了。
 
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四季胎在低温时会变得很硬,与地面的摩擦力相对要差,所以刹车距离会长。而雪胎的橡胶相对较软,且轮胎的纹路也不同,可以在低温下保持相对的柔软度,能有效缩短刹车距离,在关键时刻可能会make a big difference。但在结冰的路面上,无论四季胎还是雪胎都会打滑,最好的建议是降低车速,保持车距,没必要时不出门。

由于橡胶软的原因,夏天开车用雪胎,除了磨损严重之外,噪音也很大,这一点在highway尤其明显。

没法给你建议说可不可以用雪胎过冬,毕竟没事时都无所谓,有事时则可能人命关天,要自己定夺了。

说得非常好!!!我有个同事每天都要开deerfoot,但他开一辆前驱的小车,且没有冬胎,也过了一年又一年,虽然发生过车祸,但他依然坚持。。。我的车本身有四驱,但我怕死,即便这样,没有冬胎我是不敢冬天上路的,看各人怎么想了。也许你多花1、2000块钱多弄一些跟安全有关的东西,但是如果不出事故,你省下的时间,可能远值回票价了。如果因为没有这些安全措施发生车祸,而导致伤亡的事情发生,又岂是1、2000块钱可以衡量的?????
 
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另外,不要让四驱和雪胎给你false sense of security。在雪地上开车,四驱并不见得比两驱安全。 相较两驱车(前驱),四驱车在陷入积雪中时可能更容易开出来,但操控性不及两驱车。刹车制动方面没有明显差别。详情请看下文:

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Do You Need an All-Wheel-Drive or Four-Wheel-Drive Car?
The Pros and Cons of AWD/4WD
Published: 07/09/2013 - by Ronald Montoya, Consumer Advice Editor

"Car shoppers looking at any vehicle with all-wheel drive (AWD) or four-wheel drive (4WD) as an option face a difficult decision. Is AWD that much safer and thereby worth the roughly $2,000 premium these vehicles command?

The short answer is this: AWD and 4WD help a vehicle accelerate in slippery conditions, but don't aid with braking and only sometimes improve handling. That said, you shouldn't necessarily cross the feature off your shopping list.

AWD and 4WD are often used interchangeably, but they operate differently and are found on different vehicles. The Edmunds Car Glossary defines the two as follows:

All-Wheel Drive (AWD): A drivetrain that employs a front, rear and center differential to provide power to all four wheels of a vehicle.

Four-Wheel Drive (4WD): A drivetrain that employs two differentials and a transfer case to provide power to all four wheels of a vehicle.

AWD is found on cars and crossovers like the Subaru Impreza and Dodge Journey, while 4WD is reserved for trucks like the Chevrolet Silverado and truck-based SUVs like the Toyota 4Runner.

The Textbook Cases
There are some cases when you should give AWD and 4WD serious consideration: for example, if you live near or spend time in places with unpaved dirt roads. Similarly, if you live in places where it rains or snows for many months out of the year, AWD or 4WD should be high on your list of "must-have" car options.

But for some people, the choice may not be that clear-cut. Here is a list of pros and cons to help you make a better decision.

Pros of AWD/4WD
Better Acceleration: An AWD or 4WD vehicle can accelerate better than a two-wheel-drive vehicle in inclement weather. "The advantage provided by AWD is mainly in the acceleration, as the traction needs will be equally distributed among all four tires," says Cyrille Roget, director of product marketing for Michelin North America. On a car with front-wheel drive (FWD), "the need for traction will be transmitted only on two tires," adds Roget.

Helps With Traction and Towing: A 4WD truck's improved traction can help you if you are towing from a wet, steep, boat ramp, says Dan Edmunds, director of vehicle testing for Edmunds.com. Similarly, if you go camping off-road in dirt or sandy areas, a vehicle with AWD or 4WD will reduce your chances of getting stuck. But you don't need these systems if towing on dry, paved roads and camping in developed spots is your thing, says Edmunds.

Improves Dry Handling: This only applies to AWD vehicles with torque vectoring. The AWD version of the 2013 Acura TL is one example. Acura's "Super Handling All Wheel Drive" (SH-AWD) distributes torque to all four wheels, using a pair of electromagnetic clutches to freely regulate torque distribution between the rear wheels. This system is one of the rare cases when AWD can help with cornering.

Added Resale Value: Your vehicle may be worth a bit more if you live in an area where trucks are popular, like Texas, or in a place with harsh winters, like Colorado. People are willing to pay a premium for vehicles with AWD and 4WD says Richard Arca, senior manager of pricing for Edmunds.com. If you look at the depreciation curve for these cars, it dips initially, but then regains its value after a few years, Arca adds. But if you live in a place with milder winters, like Southern California, there will be less demand for AWD and 4WD vehicles, and buyers won't be as willing to pay for the feature.

Cons of AWD/4WD
Added Cost: The cost of an AWD or 4WD system can range from $1,250 on a Honda CR-V to $3,275 on a Ford F-150. You'll also have to factor in slightly more for gas, since the vehicles' rated fuel economy is slightly lower.

Lower Fuel Economy: The AWD and 4WD components weigh more and place a higher load on the engine. This will decrease fuel economy by about 1-2 mpg. It may not seem like much, but this is a 5-10 percent decrease in trucks (4-9 percent in cars and crossovers) and can add up to a couple hundred dollars in a year.

More Maintenance: The differentials on AWD and 4WD vehicles require oil changes. And while the differential fluid doesn't need to be changed as often as the engine oil, it is an extra maintenance item to account for. These oil changes range roughly between $40 and $150. If something goes wrong with the differentials, they tend to cost more to repair than a 2WD vehicle.

False Sense of Security: It is easy to be lured by an automaker's advertising and think that having AWD means you can drive in the snow or rain as easily as you would in dry conditions. But the truth is that AWD and 4WD help only with acceleration and traction. Braking distances and handling will be the same as with the 2WD vehicle.

Focus on Good Tires
Ultimately, your vehicle's tires can be more important than the number of wheels being driven. For example, the 2013 Audi S5 is an AWD car, but it's not a great idea to take it for a ski trip straight from the dealer's lot. That's because the S5 comes standard with summer tires that wouldn't do well in the cold.

Here's another way to think about it: What would perform better in the snow? A front-wheel-drive car with winter tires or an AWD car with all-season tires? Michelin tested this scenario in a study a few years ago. The FWD car with winter tires outperformed the AWD car in nearly every test. The AWD vehicle had the edge in acceleration, but when it came time to hit the brakes, its braking distance was significantly longer than the FWD car. Of course, if the AWD vehicle had a full set of winter tires, it would be the hands-down winner, but it goes to show you the importance of good tires.

Don't Buy a 10 Percent Car
People sometimes buy an AWD or 4WD vehicle for the occasional off-road outing or ski trip, while 90 percent of the time they'll be sitting in traffic or using the vehicle on paved roads. These drivers would be better served by renting a car for their ski trips. This would save them money both on the price of the car plus the lower fuel costs.

Regardless of where you end up, make sure you take the time to weigh the pros and cons and find the right car for you."

原文出自: http://www.edmunds.com/car-buying/do-you-need-an-all-wheel-drive-or-four-wheel-drive-car.html

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概括起来,有能力买大的SUV或Truck且不在乎油钱,当然去买了。能量守恒定律是成立的,highway上pickup truck或SUV和semi相撞时,semi多数时候都是占便宜的。但买车不是用来撞的,不然大家都开坦克上街了。冬天开车,关键是要...
1. Drive to the road conditions,not the speed limit.
2. Plan your trip and leave enough time for you to get there. Remember, it's better to be late than never.
3. Share the road, and keep proper distance between the vehicles.
4. Cancel non essential trips if the condition is really bad.

如果荷包不是很鼓,又不常开着上下班跑highway,则仔细斟酌一下了。
 
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另外,不要让四驱和雪胎给你false sense of security。在雪地上开车,四驱并不见得比两驱安全。 相较两驱车(前驱),四驱车在陷入积雪中时可能更容易开出来,但操控性不及两驱车。刹车制动方面没有明显差别。详情请看下文:

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Do You Need an All-Wheel-Drive or Four-Wheel-Drive Car?
The Pros and Cons of AWD/4WD
Published: 07/09/2013 - by Ronald Montoya, Consumer Advice Editor

"Car shoppers looking at any vehicle with all-wheel drive (AWD) or four-wheel drive (4WD) as an option face a difficult decision. Is AWD that much safer and thereby worth the roughly $2,000 premium these vehicles command?

The short answer is this: AWD and 4WD help a vehicle accelerate in slippery conditions, but don't aid with braking and only sometimes improve handling. That said, you shouldn't necessarily cross the feature off your shopping list.

AWD and 4WD are often used interchangeably, but they operate differently and are found on different vehicles. The Edmunds Car Glossary defines the two as follows:

All-Wheel Drive (AWD): A drivetrain that employs a front, rear and center differential to provide power to all four wheels of a vehicle.

Four-Wheel Drive (4WD): A drivetrain that employs two differentials and a transfer case to provide power to all four wheels of a vehicle.

AWD is found on cars and crossovers like the Subaru Impreza and Dodge Journey, while 4WD is reserved for trucks like the Chevrolet Silverado and truck-based SUVs like the Toyota 4Runner.

The Textbook Cases
There are some cases when you should give AWD and 4WD serious consideration: for example, if you live near or spend time in places with unpaved dirt roads. Similarly, if you live in places where it rains or snows for many months out of the year, AWD or 4WD should be high on your list of "must-have" car options.

But for some people, the choice may not be that clear-cut. Here is a list of pros and cons to help you make a better decision.

Pros of AWD/4WD
Better Acceleration:
An AWD or 4WD vehicle can accelerate better than a two-wheel-drive vehicle in inclement weather. "The advantage provided by AWD is mainly in the acceleration, as the traction needs will be equally distributed among all four tires," says Cyrille Roget, director of product marketing for Michelin North America. On a car with front-wheel drive (FWD), "the need for traction will be transmitted only on two tires," adds Roget.

Helps With Traction and Towing: A 4WD truck's improved traction can help you if you are towing from a wet, steep, boat ramp, says Dan Edmunds, director of vehicle testing for Edmunds.com. Similarly, if you go camping off-road in dirt or sandy areas, a vehicle with AWD or 4WD will reduce your chances of getting stuck. But you don't need these systems if towing on dry, paved roads and camping in developed spots is your thing, says Edmunds.

Improves Dry Handling: This only applies to AWD vehicles with torque vectoring. The AWD version of the 2013 Acura TL is one example. Acura's "Super Handling All Wheel Drive" (SH-AWD) distributes torque to all four wheels, using a pair of electromagnetic clutches to freely regulate torque distribution between the rear wheels. This system is one of the rare cases when AWD can help with cornering.

Added Resale Value: Your vehicle may be worth a bit more if you live in an area where trucks are popular, like Texas, or in a place with harsh winters, like Colorado. People are willing to pay a premium for vehicles with AWD and 4WD says Richard Arca, senior manager of pricing for Edmunds.com. If you look at the depreciation curve for these cars, it dips initially, but then regains its value after a few years, Arca adds. But if you live in a place with milder winters, like Southern California, there will be less demand for AWD and 4WD vehicles, and buyers won't be as willing to pay for the feature.

Cons of AWD/4WD
Added Cost:
The cost of an AWD or 4WD system can range from $1,250 on a Honda CR-V to $3,275 on a Ford F-150. You'll also have to factor in slightly more for gas, since the vehicles' rated fuel economy is slightly lower.

Lower Fuel Economy: The AWD and 4WD components weigh more and place a higher load on the engine. This will decrease fuel economy by about 1-2 mpg. It may not seem like much, but this is a 5-10 percent decrease in trucks (4-9 percent in cars and crossovers) and can add up to a couple hundred dollars in a year.

More Maintenance: The differentials on AWD and 4WD vehicles require oil changes. And while the differential fluid doesn't need to be changed as often as the engine oil, it is an extra maintenance item to account for. These oil changes range roughly between $40 and $150. If something goes wrong with the differentials, they tend to cost more to repair than a 2WD vehicle.

False Sense of Security: It is easy to be lured by an automaker's advertising and think that having AWD means you can drive in the snow or rain as easily as you would in dry conditions. But the truth is that AWD and 4WD help only with acceleration and traction. Braking distances and handling will be the same as with the 2WD vehicle.

Focus on Good Tires
Ultimately, your vehicle's tires can be more important than the number of wheels being driven. For example, the 2013 Audi S5 is an AWD car, but it's not a great idea to take it for a ski trip straight from the dealer's lot. That's because the S5 comes standard with summer tires that wouldn't do well in the cold.

Here's another way to think about it: What would perform better in the snow? A front-wheel-drive car with winter tires or an AWD car with all-season tires? Michelin tested this scenario in a study a few years ago. The FWD car with winter tires outperformed the AWD car in nearly every test. The AWD vehicle had the edge in acceleration, but when it came time to hit the brakes, its braking distance was significantly longer than the FWD car. Of course, if the AWD vehicle had a full set of winter tires, it would be the hands-down winner, but it goes to show you the importance of good tires.

Don't Buy a 10 Percent Car
People sometimes buy an AWD or 4WD vehicle for the occasional off-road outing or ski trip, while 90 percent of the time they'll be sitting in traffic or using the vehicle on paved roads. These drivers would be better served by renting a car for their ski trips. This would save them money both on the price of the car plus the lower fuel costs.

Regardless of where you end up, make sure you take the time to weigh the pros and cons and find the right car for you."

原文出自: http://www.edmunds.com/car-buying/do-you-need-an-all-wheel-drive-or-four-wheel-drive-car.html

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概括起来,有能力买大的SUV或Truck且不在乎油钱,当然去买了。能量守恒定律是成立的,highway上pickup truck或SUV和semi相撞时,semi多数时候都是占便宜的。但买车不是用来撞的,不然大家都开坦克上街了。冬天开车,关键是要...
1. Drive to the road conditions,not the speed limit.
2. Plan your trip and leave enough time for you to get there. Remember, it's better to be late than never.
3. Share the road, and keep proper distance between the vehicles.
4. Cancel non essential trips if the condition is really bad.

如果荷包不是很鼓,又不常开着上下班跑highway,则仔细斟酌一下了。
我见过“在雪地上开车,四驱并不见得比两驱安全”这个说法,但是我自己的真实感受是,有次在雪地我忘了开四驱,结果车打滑(可能是甩尾)比较严重,但是四驱开了以后,在同样的路段,只有轻微的打滑,几乎觉察不出来。而且我开得并不快。所以我自己的感觉是四驱比两驱在雪地里还是要略稳定一些的。当然,刹车距离就是轮胎的事了。anyway,我不是要争辩,我只是举个例子说,个人看待这些消耗钱换取安全的东西的看法是不同的。
 
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我见过“在雪地上开车,四驱并不见得比两驱安全”这个说法,但是我自己的真实感受是,有次在雪地我忘了开四驱,结果车打滑(可能是甩尾)比较严重,但是四驱开了以后,在同样的路段,只有轻微的打滑,几乎觉察不出来。而且我开得并不快。所以我自己的感觉是四驱比两驱在雪地里还是要略稳定一些的。当然,刹车距离就是轮胎的事了。anyway,我不是要争辩,我只是举个例子说,个人看待这些消耗钱换取安全的东西的看法是不同的。
这个我也同意。

同时,为了防止甩尾,冬天开车时我会在车尾放沙袋,增加后轴的重量!没办法,经常跑乡间小路啊!
 
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恩,我明年初可能想买一辆大点的SUV开,到时候再来问家园的XDJM买什么车好,主要爸妈来了,我那旧小车也不够坐了。
但这辆车还是挺耐用,还是蛮喜欢的,陪伴我三年的风风雪雪呀。如果再买一辆车,可能这辆就开少了。
我觉得我的车没有那个雪的标志,我是不是可以认为不是雪胎,是四季?照片在手机传不到公司电脑。回家传。
如果我这三年开的都是4季胎,那我想也许4季胎够用吧,有觉得滑,不过开慢点也还好,倒是因为底盘底陷过雪里几次。不过曾经有次在22x上原地360转了一圈,把我吓得,我以为我已经完了
如果是雪胎,那我可能要买两套胎了。雪胎贵些吧。
 

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