这是一篇反动文章， 完全为排华寻找借口，
看着是澳大利亚的，真是一个土老帽国家，
- 主题发起人 淘金热
- 发布时间 2017-11-20
看着是澳大利亚的，真是一个土老帽国家，
为了自身利益说话， 为了个人理念说话，
没有这两点， 说话的原因只因为姓赵， 就让人费解了，
因为人不是工具，
这篇文章的反动之处， 在于造谣， 因为赵家人而说话的现象， 是极其个别的现象，
绝大多数的言论， 是从个人的立场和价值观念出发，属于言论自由范围，
作者纯粹阴毛论， 说海外华人有错落的忠诚感， 完全是造谣，
不仅仅中国移民，外国五毛也很卖力。比如 Robin Daverman。下面是有人翻译的。
Answered by Robin Daverman
I hate to break it to you, but the West's obsession is not the Chinese obsession. The CCP's obsession right now is to separate power and money, thus the anti-corruption movement. This is a reflection of the general sentiment of the Chinese people, because in the past 1,000+ years, every single Chinese is convinced that when money and power get together, the common people become the "fish and meat" for the powerful+wealthy. There are poems and idioms thousands of years old describing the evils befell on the people when money and power collude with each other. In a sense, every single Chinese government in the past 1,000 years had been obsessed with holding back the irresistible attraction between money and power.
虽然不想打断你的畅想，但西方的观念，不是中国的观念。共产党当前的重心是分离权力和金钱，也就是反腐败运动。过去1000多年来，每个中国人都确信，当权力和金钱一旦结合，普通人民就会成为砧板上的鱼肉，反腐运动正是这个普遍观念的反映。几千年来，无数古老的诗歌、俗语都在讲诉在金钱和权力的密谋下，降临在人民头上的灾难。简单来说，中国历朝历代都在努力控制金钱和权力不可避免的彼此勾结。
So the CCP is implementing policies such as forbidding family members of government officials to be in commercial enterprises, and ordering that the top official in a county or a province must come from outside, instead of from a local area. The provincial governors are regularly rotated out after 5 years, and somebody else from outside will come in and "review the book", so to speak. Retired officials spend their days fishing or gardening, and not "consulting" for private equity firms or arms industry. Similar policies have been in practice in China for over 500 years and have been shown to work well against corruption. Ming dynasty and Qing dynasty , for example, forbade people engaging in commerce to attend National Civil Exams and become a government official, and forbade government officials to take up a post within 500 miles of their original homes. Unfortunately they are also completely incompatible with democracy.
所以，共产党实施了系列的政策，比如禁止政府官员家属参与经商，中央高官或者省级官员必须是外派，而不是当地的。省级官员基本上5年一轮换，好让外来的官员“新官上任三把火”。退休的官员不能当股市或者国企的顾问，他们养养花、钓钓鱼就好。类似的政策在中国已经实践了500年以上，并且结果表明对反腐效果明显。例如，明清两朝，禁止商人参加科举考试，禁止政府官员在离老家500公里之内的地方上任。不幸的是，这些与民主是完全不相容的。
In the US bankers get to be governors without any prior experience, and half of the presidential campaign is funded by only 158 super-rich families. Essentially they are the ones who picked the presidential candidates. That's what democracy look like in the US. In China this will cause a revolution. 158 (mostly) white families have contributed almost half of 2016 campaign spending . The Families Funding the 2016 Presidential Election
在美国，没有任何经验的银行家可以当官，而超过半数的总统竞选是由158个超级富裕的家族支持的。基本上，总统候选人就是他们选出来的。这就是民主在美国的真实模样。在中国，这样的情况会引起革命。链接1，2016年总统竞选花费绝大部分由158个超级家族（白人）贡献；链接2，赞助2016年总统竞选的家族们。
Politicians who take money from rich people are by definition corrupt in China. You don't need to prove that they actually give favors in exchange for the money. They go to jail just for taking the money. People in the US are not bothered by this, as long as it's somewhat "disclosed". Political campaigns cost a lot of money, and the people in the US don't want to fund it, so the money has to come from the rich. A dollar a vote is perfectly fine, because Americans believe that rich people should have more political power, thus the Supreme Court decision of "money" is "speech". Buying influence with money is called democracy. It's legal, not corruption. Buckley v. Valeo, Citizens United v. FEC The Chinese on the other hand, looking back at the past 1,000 years of history, are convinced this is the way to commit national suicide and bring tremendous misery to the common people.
在中国，凡是接受富人金钱的官员，就是贪污腐败。你根本不需要证明官员为了钱提供了什么好处。他们通通都要为之做大牢。美国人根本不会在意这个，哪怕已经被揭露出来。政治竞选花费不菲，美国普通人又不会赞助，所以这些钱都来自富人。以钱换票是正当的，因为美国人认为富人就应该拥有更大的政治权力，所以最高法院认为金钱就是真理。用金钱买影响力，就是所谓的民主了。它是合法的，不是腐败。链接，Buckley v. Valeo, Citizens United v. FEC. 中国，恰恰相反，1000多年来的历史证明，这条路只能导致国破家亡。
Fundamentally, the Americans believe that rich people with power will make other Americans richer. The Chinese believe that rich people with power will use the power to make themselves even richer at the expense of the common people.
本质上，美国人相信拥有权力的富人会让所有美国人都富裕。中国人则相信有权力的富人会用他们的权力让自己更富——以损害普通人利益为代价。
There is no way to reconcile these two different versions of the reality by 2030.
所以，即便到了2030年，这两种事实存在的不同的观点不可能缓和。
So now the Americans are snickering that China's policy is driving all the rich and talented folks out of the country, and the Chinese are keeping their mouths resolutely shut, muttering to herself that "somebody is being sold down the river, and still eagerly helping them count out the money."
所以现在美国人嘲笑中国的政策把富人和有本事的人赶出中国时候，中国人默默无言，只自言自语地说：“有些人遭卖了，还在帮别人数钱。”
Answered by Robin Daverman
I hate to break it to you, but the West's obsession is not the Chinese obsession. The CCP's obsession right now is to separate power and money, thus the anti-corruption movement. This is a reflection of the general sentiment of the Chinese people, because in the past 1,000+ years, every single Chinese is convinced that when money and power get together, the common people become the "fish and meat" for the powerful+wealthy. There are poems and idioms thousands of years old describing the evils befell on the people when money and power collude with each other. In a sense, every single Chinese government in the past 1,000 years had been obsessed with holding back the irresistible attraction between money and power.
虽然不想打断你的畅想，但西方的观念，不是中国的观念。共产党当前的重心是分离权力和金钱，也就是反腐败运动。过去1000多年来，每个中国人都确信，当权力和金钱一旦结合，普通人民就会成为砧板上的鱼肉，反腐运动正是这个普遍观念的反映。几千年来，无数古老的诗歌、俗语都在讲诉在金钱和权力的密谋下，降临在人民头上的灾难。简单来说，中国历朝历代都在努力控制金钱和权力不可避免的彼此勾结。
So the CCP is implementing policies such as forbidding family members of government officials to be in commercial enterprises, and ordering that the top official in a county or a province must come from outside, instead of from a local area. The provincial governors are regularly rotated out after 5 years, and somebody else from outside will come in and "review the book", so to speak. Retired officials spend their days fishing or gardening, and not "consulting" for private equity firms or arms industry. Similar policies have been in practice in China for over 500 years and have been shown to work well against corruption. Ming dynasty and Qing dynasty , for example, forbade people engaging in commerce to attend National Civil Exams and become a government official, and forbade government officials to take up a post within 500 miles of their original homes. Unfortunately they are also completely incompatible with democracy.
所以，共产党实施了系列的政策，比如禁止政府官员家属参与经商，中央高官或者省级官员必须是外派，而不是当地的。省级官员基本上5年一轮换，好让外来的官员“新官上任三把火”。退休的官员不能当股市或者国企的顾问，他们养养花、钓钓鱼就好。类似的政策在中国已经实践了500年以上，并且结果表明对反腐效果明显。例如，明清两朝，禁止商人参加科举考试，禁止政府官员在离老家500公里之内的地方上任。不幸的是，这些与民主是完全不相容的。
In the US bankers get to be governors without any prior experience, and half of the presidential campaign is funded by only 158 super-rich families. Essentially they are the ones who picked the presidential candidates. That's what democracy look like in the US. In China this will cause a revolution. 158 (mostly) white families have contributed almost half of 2016 campaign spending . The Families Funding the 2016 Presidential Election
在美国，没有任何经验的银行家可以当官，而超过半数的总统竞选是由158个超级富裕的家族支持的。基本上，总统候选人就是他们选出来的。这就是民主在美国的真实模样。在中国，这样的情况会引起革命。链接1，2016年总统竞选花费绝大部分由158个超级家族（白人）贡献；链接2，赞助2016年总统竞选的家族们。
Politicians who take money from rich people are by definition corrupt in China. You don't need to prove that they actually give favors in exchange for the money. They go to jail just for taking the money. People in the US are not bothered by this, as long as it's somewhat "disclosed". Political campaigns cost a lot of money, and the people in the US don't want to fund it, so the money has to come from the rich. A dollar a vote is perfectly fine, because Americans believe that rich people should have more political power, thus the Supreme Court decision of "money" is "speech". Buying influence with money is called democracy. It's legal, not corruption. Buckley v. Valeo, Citizens United v. FEC The Chinese on the other hand, looking back at the past 1,000 years of history, are convinced this is the way to commit national suicide and bring tremendous misery to the common people.
在中国，凡是接受富人金钱的官员，就是贪污腐败。你根本不需要证明官员为了钱提供了什么好处。他们通通都要为之做大牢。美国人根本不会在意这个，哪怕已经被揭露出来。政治竞选花费不菲，美国普通人又不会赞助，所以这些钱都来自富人。以钱换票是正当的，因为美国人认为富人就应该拥有更大的政治权力，所以最高法院认为金钱就是真理。用金钱买影响力，就是所谓的民主了。它是合法的，不是腐败。链接，Buckley v. Valeo, Citizens United v. FEC. 中国，恰恰相反，1000多年来的历史证明，这条路只能导致国破家亡。
Fundamentally, the Americans believe that rich people with power will make other Americans richer. The Chinese believe that rich people with power will use the power to make themselves even richer at the expense of the common people.
本质上，美国人相信拥有权力的富人会让所有美国人都富裕。中国人则相信有权力的富人会用他们的权力让自己更富——以损害普通人利益为代价。
There is no way to reconcile these two different versions of the reality by 2030.
所以，即便到了2030年，这两种事实存在的不同的观点不可能缓和。
So now the Americans are snickering that China's policy is driving all the rich and talented folks out of the country, and the Chinese are keeping their mouths resolutely shut, muttering to herself that "somebody is being sold down the river, and still eagerly helping them count out the money."
所以现在美国人嘲笑中国的政策把富人和有本事的人赶出中国时候，中国人默默无言，只自言自语地说：“有些人遭卖了，还在帮别人数钱。”
他生前说过“中国应当对人类做出较大的贡献”。第一步，当然是先要把红旗插遍全世界啦。
