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开车四五年,第一次接到罚单,挺狠,490刀。
情况是这样:
401近温莎附近,本人开车一贯谨慎,在右侧行车道按限速100公路行驶,过了一个坡,突然看见紧急停车道有货车和两辆警车,警车警灯闪烁。当时超车道有车,且速度很快,加速并到超车道已来不及,只好在行车道减速从警车边驶过,结果悲催。一辆警车撵上叫停我,开了罚单,490元。理由是:遇见警车,如果安全的情况下,应该并道到超车道。罚单引用的法律条款如下:HIGHWAY TRAFFIC ACT section 159.1(2)

问题是,我在安省政府官网(http://www.ontario.ca/welcome-ontario)找不到这个159.1(2)这个条目,最接近的条目如下:
159. (1) The driver of a vehicle, upon the approach of a police department vehicle with its bell or siren sounding or with its lamp producing intermittent flashes of red light or red and blue light, or upon the approach of an ambulance, fire department vehicle or public utility emergency vehicle with its bell or siren sounding or its lamp producing intermittent flashes of red light, shall immediately bring such vehicle to a standstill,
(a) as near as is practicable to the right-hand curb or edge of the roadway and parallel therewith and clear of any intersection; or
(b) when on a roadway having more than two lanes for traffic and designated for the use of one-way traffic, as near as is practicable to the nearest curb or edge of the roadway and parallel therewith and clear of any intersection. 2009, c. 5, s. 49.
Slow down on approaching stopped emergency vehicle
(2) Upon approaching an emergency vehicle with its lamp producing intermittent flashes of red light or red and blue light that is stopped on a highway, the driver of a vehicle travelling on the same side of the highway shall slow down and proceed with caution, having due regard for traffic on and the conditions of the highway and the weather, to ensure that the driver does not collide with the emergency vehicle or endanger any person outside of the emergency vehicle. 2009, c. 5, s. 49.
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(3) Upon approaching an emergency vehicle with its lamp producing intermittent flashes of red light or red and blue light that is stopped on a highway with two or more lanes of traffic on the same side of the highway as the side on which the emergency vehicle is stopped, the driver of a vehicle travelling in the same lane that the emergency vehicle is stopped in or in a lane that is adjacent to the emergency vehicle, in addition to slowing down and proceeding with caution as required by subsection (2), shall move into another lane if the movement can be made in safety. 2009, c. 5, s. 49.

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现在我的问题是:

1.是不是我寻找的有问题,正确的条文在哪里可以找到?

2.假如我寻找的没有问题,警察可能会引用法律条文错误吗?如果警察引用法律条文有误,这种情况下应该如何处理?

希望各位不吝赐教,不胜感激。
 
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楼主要找的安省的法典条款链接如下:
http://www.e-laws.gov.on.ca/html/source/statutes/english/2002/elaws_src_s02021_e.htm
这是在高速交通法典基础上,为了保障在高速公路上紧急停驶的车辆及车辆外人员的安全而制定的补充修订案:

1. Part X of the Highway Traffic Act is amended by adding the following section:


Approaching stopped emergency vehicle

159.1 (1) Upon approaching an emergency vehicle with its lamp producing intermittent flashes of red light that is stopped on a highway, the driver of a vehicle travelling on the same side of the highway shall slow down and proceed with caution, having due regard for traffic on and the conditions of the highway and the weather, to ensure that the driver does not collide with the emergency vehicle or endanger any person outside of the emergency vehicle.

Same

(2) Upon approaching an emergency vehicle with its lamp producing intermittent flashes of red light that is stopped on a highway with two or more lanes of traffic on the same side of the highway as the side on which the emergency vehicle is stopped, the driver of a vehicle travelling in the same lane that the emergency vehicle is stopped in or in a lane that is adjacent to the emergency vehicle, in addition to slowing down and proceeding with caution as required by subsection (1), shall move into another lane if the movement can be made in safety.

根据楼主的陈述,我觉得楼主可以揪住最后那个条件句抗辩一下:
当时超车道车速很快且车距过近,左后方的车又不愿减速让自己的车(如果楼主当时曾试图打并线灯但没办法并进超车道就更有说服力了),表明当时变道的movement can NOT be made in safety.在这样的被动情况下为了不危及自身安全只有选择不变线减速驶过。
听说上庭的话,抗辩有可能打掉告票,就算打不掉,认罚也可协商打个对折神马的,如果真是这样,不妨上庭一试。

Offence

(4) Every person who contravenes subsection (1) or (2) is guilty of an offence and on conviction is liable,

(a) for a first offence, to a fine of not less than $400 and not more than $2,000; and

(b) for each subsequent offence, to a fine of not less than $1,000 and not more than $4,000 or to imprisonment for a term of not more than six months, or to both.

看了这条例后面的处罚(初犯罚400—2000刀,再犯每次罚1000—4000刀或入狱六个月以内或既罚钱又坐牢),觉得真要是对初犯的话,罚490刀还算靠谱。
楼主应该不属于故意违例。但这个条款也算是给安省高速上的驾驶者敲了个警钟。。。
 
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高速上警车或其他急救车在同车道中行驶,必须靠边停车吗?在相邻车道中行驶时,也停吗?如非高速,一般社区双向单车道上,碰上执行警车,是否双向车辆都要靠边?
 
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这是驾驶基本常识,挨罚不为过,很多警察就是因为这个失去了生命.
 
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楼主的案例发生在安省。俺在魁省,魁省有自己的民法通则Le Code Civil du Québec,
其下的高速公路安全条例Highway Safety Code也给出了类似安省的规定:

406.1. When an emergency vehicle or tow truck with its flashing or rotating lights activated is stopped in a lane of a public highway, the driver of a road vehicle travelling in that lane must reduce speed to avoid endangering human life or safety or any property that is in that lane and, if necessary, stop the vehicle, and switch to the other lane after making sure it can be done safely. In the case of a two-way roadway, the driver must, before switching to the other lane, yield the right of way to any vehicle travelling in the opposite direction.


If the emergency vehicle or tow truck is stopped on the shoulder or on a lane contiguous to the lane in which the driver of the road vehicle is travelling, the driver must, in the following order,

(1)reduce speed to avoid endangering human life or safety or any property that is on the shoulder or in that other lane;

(2)change lanes, if there is another lane for travelling in the same direction and after making sure it can be done safely, so as to leave one free lane between the vehicle and the stopped vehicle or, otherwise, put as much distance as possible between the vehicle and the stopped vehicle while remaining in the same lane.


The second paragraph does not apply when the direction of traffic in the driver's lane is opposite that of the lane in which the emergency vehicle or tow truck is stopped.

This section also applies when a road vehicle with an activated yellow arrow light signal directing a lane change is stopped on a public highway. The lane change must be carried out in the direction indicated by the arrow.

魁省的条例对相关前提条件描述得更为仔细具体(两步走):
先减速以避免对路肩或邻道上人身及财物安全的伤害;
如果同向有另一股车道可用,在确保可以安全变线的前提下,变线。

各省规定的具体表述不尽相同,但法理应该是一致的,都是先减速,然后在有线可变且能够安全变线的前提下变线,以保障高速上紧急停驶的车辆及相关人员的人身及财产安全。

感谢楼主分享,也让大家有了认真学习相关条款的机会:)
 
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楼主的案例发生在安省。俺在魁省,魁省有自己的民法通则Le Code Civil du Québec,
其下的高速公路安全条例Highway Safety Code也给出了类似安省的规定:

406.1. When an emergency vehicle or tow truck with its flashing or rotating lights activated is stopped in a lane of a public highway, the driver of a road vehicle travelling in that lane must reduce speed to avoid endangering human life or safety or any property that is in that lane and, if necessary, stop the vehicle, and switch to the other lane after making sure it can be done safely. In the case of a two-way roadway, the driver must, before switching to the other lane, yield the right of way to any vehicle travelling in the opposite direction.


If the emergency vehicle or tow truck is stopped on the shoulder or on a lane contiguous to the lane in which the driver of the road vehicle is travelling, the driver must, in the following order,

(1)reduce speed to avoid endangering human life or safety or any property that is on the shoulder or in that other lane;

(2)change lanes, if there is another lane for travelling in the same direction and after making sure it can be done safely, so as to leave one free lane between the vehicle and the stopped vehicle or, otherwise, put as much distance as possible between the vehicle and the stopped vehicle while remaining in the same lane.


The second paragraph does not apply when the direction of traffic in the driver's lane is opposite that of the lane in which the emergency vehicle or tow truck is stopped.

This section also applies when a road vehicle with an activated yellow arrow light signal directing a lane change is stopped on a public highway. The lane change must be carried out in the direction indicated by the arrow.

魁省的条例对相关前提条件描述得更为仔细具体(两步走):
先减速以避免对路肩或邻道上人身及财物安全的伤害;
如果同向有另一股车道可用,在确保可以安全变线的前提下,变线。

各省规定的具体表述不尽相同,但法理应该是一致的,都是先减速,然后在有线可变且能够安全变线的前提下变线,以保障高速上紧急停驶的车辆及相关人员的人身及财产安全。

感谢楼主分享,也让大家有了认真学习相关条款的机会:)
但是在无法变线的情况下,是不是只有认罚?
 
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被罚的不冤。

但是为了减免点,上庭吧。
 
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楼主要找的安省的法典条款链接如下:
http://www.e-laws.gov.on.ca/html/source/statutes/english/2002/elaws_src_s02021_e.htm
这是在高速交通法典基础上,为了保障在高速公路上紧急停驶的车辆及车辆外人员的安全而制定的补充修订案:

1. Part X of the Highway Traffic Act is amended by adding the following section:


Approaching stopped emergency vehicle

159.1 (1) Upon approaching an emergency vehicle with its lamp producing intermittent flashes of red light that is stopped on a highway, the driver of a vehicle travelling on the same side of the highway shall slow down and proceed with caution, having due regard for traffic on and the conditions of the highway and the weather, to ensure that the driver does not collide with the emergency vehicle or endanger any person outside of the emergency vehicle.

Same

(2) Upon approaching an emergency vehicle with its lamp producing intermittent flashes of red light that is stopped on a highway with two or more lanes of traffic on the same side of the highway as the side on which the emergency vehicle is stopped, the driver of a vehicle travelling in the same lane that the emergency vehicle is stopped in or in a lane that is adjacent to the emergency vehicle, in addition to slowing down and proceeding with caution as required by subsection (1), shall move into another lane if the movement can be made in safety.

根据楼主的陈述,我觉得楼主可以揪住最后那个条件句抗辩一下:
当时超车道车速很快且车距过近,左后方的车又不愿减速让自己的车(如果楼主当时曾试图打并线灯但没办法并进超车道就更有说服力了),表明当时变道的movement can NOT be made in safety.在这样的被动情况下为了不危及自身安全只有选择不变线减速驶过。
听说上庭的话,抗辩有可能打掉告票,就算打不掉,认罚也可协商打个对折神马的,如果真是这样,不妨上庭一试。

Offence

(4) Every person who contravenes subsection (1) or (2) is guilty of an offence and on conviction is liable,

(a) for a first offence, to a fine of not less than $400 and not more than $2,000; and

(b) for each subsequent offence, to a fine of not less than $1,000 and not more than $4,000 or to imprisonment for a term of not more than six months, or to both.

看了这条例后面的处罚(初犯罚400—2000刀,再犯每次罚1000—4000刀或入狱六个月以内或既罚钱又坐牢),觉得真要是对初犯的话,罚490刀还算靠谱。
楼主应该不属于故意违例。但这个条款也算是给安省高速上的驾驶者敲了个警钟。。。

谢谢您的指点,您引用的条文我也看见过,但是好像07年已经修改过,中间又修改过几次,最新的整合日期 July 1, 2014 ,具体条文就是我主帖上贴的那个(http://www.e-laws.gov.on.ca/html/statutes/english/elaws_statutes_90h08_e.htm。)

因为我来加拿大时间不长,英语也不是太好,不知道是不是我理解有误。是所有的条文,无论前后,都有法律效力,还是修改后,以新的条文执行?

您给的指点对我帮助很大,希望继续得到您的帮助,谢谢!
 
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被罚的不冤。

但是为了减免点,上庭吧。

如果不变线的话,要减速60以下。

两位说的对,当时看到警车时距离很近,如果并道,需要加速,我怕加速,万一完不成并道,就得从警车旁呼啸而过,罪过更大,但是没有果断减速到60一下,的确当时处置有瑕疵,希望以后TX吸取我的教训,避免为此挨罚。
 
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高速上警车或其他急救车在同车道中行驶,必须靠边停车吗?在相邻车道中行驶时,也停吗?如非高速,一般社区双向单车道上,碰上执行警车,是否双向车辆都要靠边?
您如果遇见警车鸣笛闪灯行驶,您应该靠右停车,如果警车在紧急停车带闪灯执行公务,您在安全的情况下能离多远就离多远,如果实在不行,就减速,减速到限速一半左右,应该问题不大了,我感觉我当时就是减速减的不够,但是警察却不是以此下的罚单,呵呵。
 
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您如果遇见警车鸣笛闪灯行驶,您应该靠右停车,如果警车在紧急停车带闪灯执行公务,您在安全的情况下能离多远就离多远,如果实在不行,就减速,减速到限速一半左右,应该问题不大了,我感觉我当时就是减速减的不够,但是警察却不是以此下的罚单,呵呵。

学习了。
你这种情况,并道是不可能的。
只能减速,猛减速,从100减速到三四十公里。过了警车后,再加速走。你可能是大意了,速度还是很快。
不过这警察也有点找茬,有个坡,视线不开阔,要开罚单应该少开点钱,再说你也减速了。
 
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警察不可能少开点,这个项目的罚款就是490起。楼主不用担心,如果在多伦多被抓,很可能用程序的手段打掉告票。我没办法加你q, 在上班。你按我教你的一步一步做就可以了。
 
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警察不可能少开点,这个项目的罚款就是490起。楼主不用担心,如果在多伦多被抓,很可能用程序的手段打掉告票。我没办法加你q, 在上班。你按我教你的一步一步做就可以了。
好,按你说的,先要disclosure,我会随时更新动态,也请您随时给予帮助。谢谢您。
 

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