[评论]加拿大退休金如此坑爹!退休后你该靠什么养老?

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那就是说你也只是猜测?
没有官方解释的链接?
有没有听说。saving account超过$2000被取消GIS的事情?
谢谢

saving account超过$2000被取消GIS,没听说过,
我听到的是超过2万,不是2000. :wdb24:

全是谣传,领GIS的条件第一是够资格领取老年金OAS(65岁以上),第二是低收入(1万6左右,包括各种收入,RRSP, 利息等),跟本金无关,
 
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这个说法有没有正式依据?昨天我朋友还说,免税账号里的钱超过2000加币,就没有GIS了。。。你说的有没有链接可以查一下政府怎么说的吗?
根据政府官方网站的规定及案例,免税账号不影响GIS,但是其它任何收入都影响GIS。
请参考:http://www.cra-arc.gc.ca/tx/ndvdls/tpcs/tfsa-celi/mpct-eng.html
案例:
Example
Denis is retired. In addition to his pension, he receives OAS and Canada Pension Plan (CPP) benefits. He earns $500 a year in interest income from his TFSA savings. Neither this income nor any TFSA withdrawals will affect any federal income-tested benefits or credits he receives as they do not have to be included on his income tax and benefit return. If he had earned $500 in a regular savings account, it would have to be included on his income tax and benefit return and he would have to pay more tax and might have to repay some of his social benefits.
 
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连接中,政府文件明确规定:
Your federal income-tested benefits and credits such as: old age security (OAS) benefits, the guaranteed income supplement (GIS), or employment insurance (EI) benefits will not be reduced as a result of the income you earn in your TFSA or the amount you withdraw from your TFSA.

The income earned in the account or amounts withdrawn from a TFSA will also not affect your eligibility for federal credits, such as the Canada child benefit (CCB), the working income tax benefit (WITB), the goods and services tax/harmonized sales tax credit (GST/HST), or the age amount.

You can withdraw money from the TFSA at any time, for any reason, with no tax consequences, and without affecting your eligibility for federal income-tested benefits and credits.
 

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TFSA不对OAS和GIS任何有影响,但RRSP算收入,而且RRSP必须在71岁之前用完,
所以如果65岁以后想领GIS,比较理想的是把每年把先把TFSA填满,如果税率比较合适,再买RRSP,
假设40岁移民到65岁退休25年,TFSA每年额度5500,两口子能有25万TFSA,平时理理财,因为用的时候不影响OAS和GIS,这个钱留到65岁后用,
RRSP根据情况买一些,如果也是每年5千,25年两口子也能有25万RRSP,
如果想65岁以后想领GIS,那么65岁前用RRSP并且用完,65岁以后开始靠OAS+GIS+TFSA

当然65岁以后你还有一个房子可以用(或downsize或Lineofcredit),这个是退休来源的大头,
 
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saving account超过$2000被取消GIS,没听说过,


全是谣传,领GIS的条件第一是够资格领取老年金OAS(65岁以上),第二是低收入(1万6左右,包括各种收入,RRSP, 利息等),跟本金无关,
正解。有关规定,到CRA网站查询都可得。如果频繁买卖同一股票而在非注册账户,归入business income,那么是按100%收入纳税(即不享受capital gain 50%纳税优惠),但是如果在注册账户,不管是何种收入,按理都该不纳税,是账户性质决定的。个人没看到TFSA有收益过高就要纳税的条款。
 
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连接中,政府文件明确规定:
Your federal income-tested benefits and credits such as: old age security (OAS) benefits, the guaranteed income supplement (GIS), or employment insurance (EI) benefits will not be reduced as a result of the income you earn in your TFSA or the amount you withdraw from your TFSA.

The income earned in the account or amounts withdrawn from a TFSA will also not affect your eligibility for federal credits, such as the Canada child benefit (CCB), the working income tax benefit (WITB), the goods and services tax/harmonized sales tax credit (GST/HST), or the age amount.

You can withdraw money from the TFSA at any time, for any reason, with no tax consequences, and without affecting your eligibility for federal income-tested benefits and credits.
谢谢,这就是我想找的官方解释。。
saving account没有被提到,而且听了不少人说超过$2000如果被查到有人被停了GIS的。。
 
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加拿大还有些高科技,比如太空站的机械手臂,太空站上的高解析度的摄像头等。
就是一张单人床,木头的,加拿大产的都比进口的结实稳当。最笨的,一把铁锹,加拿大产的就是结实耐用。人家的技术和工艺的积累,不是20年就能赶上的。光那个标准化的水平,没有法制的国家,永远也达不到。什么都有 code ,装个窗式空调都有10多道工艺流程。买个东西回家,总是正好可以进屋,摆放到位总是严丝合缝,,,
 
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谢谢,这就是我想找的官方解释。。
saving account没有被提到,而且听了不少人说超过$2000如果被查到有人被停了GIS的。。
估计你说的比较靠谱。
有很多银行要求支票账号有不低于5000,如果再加这2000,再加支票账号流动资金,差不多一万?取消低保,还是有一定道理。不过,老人这个时候,真没必要放钱到储蓄账号,就放支票账号,道理上就说的过去了?
 
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估计你说的比较靠谱。
有很多银行要求支票账号有不低于5000,如果再加这2000,再加支票账号流动资金,差不多一万?取消低保,还是有一定道理。不过,老人这个时候,真没必要放钱到储蓄账号,就放支票账号,道理上就说的过去了?
是啊,美国是明文要求前连续三年存款不超过$2k可以申请SSI,加拿大没有明文要求,但是不停有人爆料被抽查,被停GIS。。
现在TFSA是明文说明不影响GIS,就是官方解释
 

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估计你说的比较靠谱。
有很多银行要求支票账号有不低于5000,如果再加这2000,再加支票账号流动资金,差不多一万?取消低保,还是有一定道理。不过,老人这个时候,真没必要放钱到储蓄账号,就放支票账号,道理上就说的过去了?

官方还真没有关于存款限制的说法,就是年龄和收入,美国我知道有这个限制。
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2. Eligibility
You qualify for the GIS if you meet all of the following conditions:

Using your income information from your federal Income Tax and Benefit Return, we will review your eligibility for the GIS every year. If you still qualify, your benefit will be automatically renewed. In July, you will receive a letter telling you:

  • that your benefit will be renewed;
  • that your benefit will be stopped, or
  • that your income information is required.
Sources of income and deductions
When applying for the Guaranteed Income Supplement and the Allowance, you, or in the case of a couple you and your spouse or common-law partner, must report your income and deductions.

Use the information slips issued to you for income tax purposes, as well as your federal Income Tax and Benefit Return, to report the following income and deductions:

  • Canada Pension Plan (CPP) or Quebec Pension Plan (QPP) benefits
  • other pension income, such as private pensions, superannuation and foreign pension income
  • Registered Retirement Savings Plans (RRSPs) that you cashed during the year
  • Employment Insurance benefits
  • interest and other investment income
  • capital gains and taxable Canadian dividends
  • net income from any rental properties
  • net employment income minus the following deductions:
    • your CPP or QPP contributions, your Employment Insurance premiums, and the $3,500 earnings exemption
  • net self-employment income minus the following deductions:
    • your CPP or QPP contributions on self-employment, and your Employment Insurance premiums
  • other income from sources such as workers’ compensation payments and alimony; and
  • other deductions, such as union dues, RRSP deduction, moving expenses and other employment expenses
 
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TFSA不对OAS和GIS任何有影响,但RRSP算收入,而且RRSP必须在71岁之前用完,
所以如果65岁以后想领GIS,比较理想的是把每年把先把TFSA填满,如果税率比较合适,再买RRSP,
假设40岁移民到65岁退休25年,TFSA每年额度5500,两口子能有25万TFSA,平时理理财,因为用的时候不影响OAS和GIS,这个钱留到65岁后用,
RRSP根据情况买一些,如果也是每年5千,25年两口子也能有25万RRSP,
如果想65岁以后想领GIS,那么65岁前用RRSP并且用完,65岁以后开始靠OAS+GIS+TFSA

当然65岁以后你还有一个房子可以用(或downsize或Lineofcredit),这个是退休来源的大头,
RRSP不是非在71岁前用完, 而是这个账户必须关闭,不再供款,但余额可以转入RRIF(注册退休金收入基金),转账不纳税,继续享受延纳优惠,也就是,取出来时候才计入taxable income,跟原先的RRSP是一个法则,区别在于,每年有minimum withdrawal 的规定,目前好像是4%吧。
 

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RRSP不是非在71岁前用完, 而是这个账户必须关闭,不再供款,但余额可以转入RRIF(注册退休金收入基金),转账不纳税,继续享受延纳优惠,也就是,取出来时候才计入taxable income,跟原先的RRSP是一个法则,区别在于,每年有minimum withdrawal 的规定,目前好像是4%吧。

要说起来,政府退休金这一块不工作和上班族差别不大,上班族的可领CPP最高额也就1千多(一般都拿不到),因为CPP是算成收入的,所以要领GIS也领不大啥了,OAS+CPP+GIS 估计也就1600左右. 不上班的国家保证1300,
但是上班族要叫多少CPP呢? 从18岁就开始交了,收入(5万封顶)的9.9%公司个人各教一半, 也就是一年要交2500,40年大概交10万CPP,
 
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要说起来,政府退休金这一块不工作和上班族差别不大,上班族的可领CPP最高额也就1千多(一般都拿不到),因为CPP是算成收入的,所以要领GIS也领不大啥了,OAS+CPP+GIS 估计也就1600左右. 不上班的国家保证1300,
但是上班族要叫多少CPP呢? 从18岁就开始交了,收入(5万封顶)的9.9%公司个人各教一半, 也就是一年要交2500,40年大概交10万CPP,
是的,这是上班族抱怨的主要原因。但是好的公司有自己的退休金计划,这个通常比较大,就不会想着OAS,GIS这种了。
 

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