该死的英文， 总是让我有挫败感

[shw019]

啦啦队长。

cheerleader 不是啦啦队长而是啦啦队的队员。

那啦啦队长是哪个词?

 

[shw019]

That's the reason i dont like translations.
Gaming the system is much more than taking advantage of the system.
It also includes cheating, abusing, milking the system.

我知道你不愿意翻译， 但请问milking the system是啥意思?

 

[laox888]

俺不觉得Toys are us有啥语法问题，也莫有将其解读为是倒装句。

现在有一种颇挺流行的观点：We are God's toys and God's favourite toys are us.

Toys are us 是 subjective form，所以要用 we. Here, "toys" is the subject, and "we" simply renames the subject.
God's toy are us 是 objective form，所以要用 us. In this case God is the subject and toy is the object, so the objective form "us" is called for.

当然，我们只是讨论字面上的意思，实际上toys are us 有什么其他含义不讨论。

 

[laox888]

那啦啦队长是哪个词?

captain of the cheerleading team

 

[laox888]

That's the reason i dont like translations.
Gaming the system is much more than taking advantage of the system.
It also includes cheating, abusing, milking the system.

是的，不容易翻译到位，所以我说轻则打擦边球省略号。

 

[sabre的马甲]

我知道你不愿意翻译， 但请问milking the system是啥意思?

Your former governor general adrianne clarkson is the picture of milking the system.
She has an expense account she used it freely instead discreetly.

 

[shw019]

我知道你不愿意翻译， 但请问milking the system是啥意思?

其实就是cheating and abusing the system.
但有时候就是为了搞清楚milking真的有这个意思吗?

 

[laox888]

我知道你不愿意翻译， 但请问milking the system是啥意思?

milk 当动词， to milk 是挤奶的意思，所以在这里就是榨取的意思，也就是说在现有体制下拼命榨取好处。

 

[shw019]

milk 当动词， to milk 是挤奶的意思，所以在这里就是榨取的意思，也就是说在现有体制下拼命榨取好处。

那这个就是take advantage of, 而不是cheating, abusing.

 

[laox888]

那这个就是take advantage of, 而不是cheating, abusing.

可以包括cheating, abusing，所以翻译要看上下文。主要问题是system我翻译成现有体制了，没办法，没有对应的词。

 

[laox888]

词义理解要举一反三，发音更是。以前看过《英汉大词典》主编，已故陆谷孙教授的一段视频，其中他讲到中文“妻管严”这个词对应的英语是Uxorious, 他当时念的是 yousorious，我一听觉得不对头啊，因为多伦多附近有个小镇叫做 Uxbridge, 发音是 acksbridge, 所以我觉得 Uxorious 的正确发音应该是 acksorious，一查词典证实了我的怀疑。

 

[sabre的马甲]

那这个就是take advantage of, 而不是cheating, abusing.

When taking advantage goes too far it becomes milking
There is no black and white. They are all different levels of greys.

 

[sabre的马甲]

Why translation is bad because it gives a label.
A word is more than a label, it is like a person , it has a resume, a history, sometimes it has transformation.

 

[shw019]

我想到超市买羊奶喝， 都是milk, 不知道怎么选?

 

[dennistan2009]

那就让货架动起来。

 

[laox888]

Why translation is bad because it gives a label.
A word is more than a label, it is like a person , it has a resume, a history, sometimes it has transformation.

但是，有时候你必须翻译，特别是职业翻译人员。我以前在中国一个英文媒体论坛和一个翻译论坛泡了一段时间，发现翻译不是一件那么容易的事情。

 

[Vivian2018]

我想到超市买羊奶喝， 都是milk, 不知道怎么选?

Goat milk 有特别多牌子么？

 

[shw019]

Goat milk 有特别多牌子么？

一个就行， 我一个都不知道。

 

[shw019]

那就让货架动起来。

搬不动。

 

[sabre的马甲]

但是，有时候你必须翻译，特别是职业翻译人员。我以前在中国一个英文媒体论坛和一个翻译论坛泡了一段时间，发现翻译不是一件那么容易的事情。

Simultaneous interpreting is very very difficult.
Speaking and listening at the same time must drive people nuts.