第九集： 神圣的宪法! 12/23 突发：川普总统要立即任命特别检察官

[admin]

这次是美国建国选举史上的一个大案；
其实大家都没有充足的经验；
我们边看边学习；
这几个时间点，得静观到时发生什么

德州请求最高法院，紧急延迟投票日是很必要的。因为12月14日（周一）投票日是写在法律里面的。

“技术”上讲，德州的官司太晚，有点最后一分钟才想起来的意思，所以造成当前最高法院没有足够时间判决的局面。

 

[gjw8060]

德州请求最高法院，紧急延迟投票日是很必要的。

“技术”上讲，德州的官司太晚，有点最后一分钟才想起来的意思，所以造成当前的局面

德州案件和宾州共和党的诉讼案一前一后；
我觉得不晚；
德州特意在这个时间点起诉的

 

[admin]

德州案件和宾州共和党的诉讼案一前一后；
我觉得不晚；
德州特意在这个时间点起诉的

好的，我只是提醒购买川普币的同学注意风险。

个人感觉，如果最高法院没有制止或者延后选举人团投票，最高法院这条路的希望就不大了。

我不参与这么敏感话题聊天了，大家继续加油。

 

[Chinada]

四州今天回复最高法院的摘要。简单的说，选举事务是各个州自己的管辖范围，外人无权干涉。想打官司，到各州的法院来打。

"Texas's effort to get this Court to pick the next President has no basis in law or fact. The Court should not abide this seditious abuse of the judicial process, and should send a clear and unmistakable signal that such abuse must never be replicated," wrote Pennsylvania Attorney General Josh Shapiro.

Michigan Attorney General Dana Nessel: "the election in Michigan is over. Texas comes as a stranger to this matter and should not be heard here."

Chris Carr, the attorney general of Georgia, "in any case, there is another forum in which parties who (unlike Texas) have standing can challenge Georgia's compliance with its own election laws: Georgia's own courts."

Wisconsin Attorney General Josh Kaul similarly cast the lawsuit as an "extraordinary intrusion into Wisconsin's and the other defendant States' elections, a task that the Constitution leaves to each State."

 

[gjw8060]

鲍威尔的原话是这个吗？ 找来听一听

"massive cyber Pearl Harbor."

《ZT》
12/10 根据鲍威尔律师，大选之夜美国经历了“庞大的网络珍珠港”袭击。背后的中共伊朗以为美国完全措手不及！但是他们没有想到，川普总统正在国防部“网络战争部队”陪同下在“敏感隔间信息中心”，观看一群窃贼如何偷窃选票而被当场抓到！大选后美国各种部队的密集部署，预示着即将开始的灭共灭贼行动
浏览附件645772

这个家伙加了私料；鲍威尔律师可没有这么说

 

[gjw8060]

好的，我只是提醒购买川普币的同学注意风险。

个人感觉，如果最高法院没有制止或者延后选举人团投票，最高法院这条路的希望就不大了。

我不参与这么敏感话题聊天了，大家继续加油。

我们就等着收大笔的家园币；
同时继续贴上我们搜集来的最新消息哈；
谢谢Admin善意提醒

 

[admin]

我们就等着收大笔的家园币；
同时继续贴上我们搜集来的最新消息哈；
谢谢Admin善意提醒

，如果川普翻盘，你的家园币就比肩admin了，不得不服。

 

[格林尼治时间]

那不可能。最高法院如果想act，必然在12月14日之前作出紧急裁决。这也是德州诉讼请求的地方，因为这是合法程序。

就像宾州的案子，大法官特意提早到12月8日（安全日）之前作出裁决。

无可能在投票之后，判决选举人团投票无效。那么以后总统就交给法官决定，而不是选民决定了。大法官坚守三权分立，要依法行事，无可能判这种低级错误的判决。

恰恰我们在总统不可能交给法官决定这一点上是共识的，得州要求的是违宪诉讼，就是说如果判决违宪，那这四个州的选举人团投的票前提就是违法无效的，当然这是个法律问题，我们还都在等最高院的判罚来解读，但绝对不是由法官来决定总统。
其实抛开这次川普拜登谁当选的问题，我们来看看前面加州和宾州的高院判罚来从另一方面来想想，他们说州长州务卿改变选举法则违宪了，但选举结果不能改变，那给人的感觉是官员可以改变宪法的规则而达到他们想要的目的，今后不要说民主党人了共和党人也绝对会有样学样

 

[阿吾]

各位，再次贴一遍德克萨斯诉讼的述求，我感觉明天是高法判决日，
个人感觉1的可能性最大，然后是下一步，

1， 暂缓选举学院投票，直至本法院进一步命令，然后再针对这些情况发布初步禁令。。。
2， 或者取消4个州的认证，由州议院决定选举人

1 This Court should first administratively stay ortemporarily restrain the Defendant States fromvoting in the electoral college until further order ofthis Court and then issue a preliminary injunction orstay against their doing so until the conclusion of thiscase on the merits.

2 Alternatively, the Court should reach the merits, vacate the
Defendant States’ elector certifications from the unconstitutional 2020 electionresults, and
remand to the Defendant States’ legislatures pursuant to 3 U.S.C. § 2 to appointelectors

 

[格林尼治时间]

德州请求最高法院，紧急延迟投票日是很必要的。因为12月14日（周一）投票日是写在法律里面的。

“技术”上讲，德州的官司太晚，有点最后一分钟才想起来的意思，所以造成当前最高法院没有足够时间判决的局面。

当然从另一个角度来说，也完全支持你的观点，因为最高法院“技术”上可以很容易的制止或者延后选举人团12月14日（周一）投票日

 

[格林尼治时间]

各位，再次贴一遍德克萨斯诉讼的述求，我感觉明天是高法判决日，
个人感觉1的可能性最大，然后是下一步，

1， 暂缓选举学院投票，直至本法院进一步命令，然后再针对这些情况发布初步禁令。。。
2， 或者取消4个州的认证，由州议院决定选举人

1 This Court should first administratively stay ortemporarily restrain the Defendant States fromvoting in the electoral college until further order ofthis Court and then issue a preliminary injunction orstay against their doing so until the conclusion of thiscase on the merits.

2 Alternatively, the Court should reach the merits, vacate the
Defendant States’ elector certifications from the unconstitutional 2020 electionresults, and
remand to the Defendant States’ legislatures pursuant to 3 U.S.C. § 2 to appointelectors

我觉得最高院只会初步给第一条的判罚而需要更多的时间来支持最后的判决

 

[阿吾]

我觉得最高院只会初步给第一条的判罚而需要更多的时间来支持最后的判决

这是12/07 我看到的分析，那个时候普通人都不知道有德克萨斯州起诉这种事，
果不其然，第二天州起诉开始，各州跟上，
他下一个预测是，选举人投票会暂时中止

Ok after listening to Jay Sekulow today and PT comments about some big things in the next day or two I think I see a possible play.

So here are the steps we could see tomorrow IMO.

1. As we know, Kelly filed an earlier lawsuit in PA arguing that the Gov and SOS acted unconstitutionally when they themselves vs the state legislature, went around current state election law, which eliminated many of the state’s ballot safeguards and is now asking the SC for an emergency application for a temporary injunction to prevent the state of PA from seeding its electors.

2. Alito originally asked the state to respond by 9:00 a.m. on the 9th only to move the filing of the State’s brief response to Tues at 9:00 am. Why? IMO to beat I believe, the noon safe harbor time where states can begin selecting electors.

3. IMO Alito moved this up because it signals that the conservative justices WILL take the case and wanted to head off or nullify any media/counter argument that the SC acted AFTER the safe harbor deadline.

4. IMO the SC WILL act almost immediately after this brief is filed at 9:00 am tomorrow and could rule that they will enjoin (halt) the state of PA from seeding any electors until such time that the SC can rule on the merits of Kelly’s original lawsuit.

5. Now comes the good part or the secret sauce – Original Jurisdiction which is when two or more states are locked in a dispute, the Supreme Court has original jurisdiction to gather and hear evidence much like a trial court.

6. So, what could happen between 9:00 and noon tomorrow is, multiple states where PT won overwhelming with friendly Gov and state AG is, these states file suit against ALL of the 6 battle ground states asserting if these swing states are allowed to select their electors under alleged election irregularities, it will dilute their state’s voters votes and thus these Pro-Trump states are asking for a temporary injunction to stop the seeding of these 6 state’s electors until such time that the SC can hear all of the evidence.

7. The brilliance of this approach is, in one shot they can move all 6 states to the SC and temporary halt the seeding of their electors, all by possibly noon tomorrow and all beating the safe harbor deadline.

8. Now if the seeding of electors has been temporarily halted with no one having the required 270 electors then Jay Sekulow and team can present to the SC, all the evidence that Rudy, Sidney, Lin and Jenna have been collecting in each of the 6 swing states. IMO they may have been working as a team feeding all of this evidence into Jay’s team who may have been compiling it specifically for this presentation at the SC.

9. This is where Jay and team can introduce not only voter fraud evidence and how various state governors and SOS decided election law without state legislature approval but also presenting possible ELECTION fraud evidence via the alleged machine vote count manipulation and fractions that we have been reading about.

If you want to hear more listen to the first 20 minutes or so of Jay’s show today as he doesn’t come out and say this is definitely what they are doing but it presents a possible play and if this is the play, IMO it would be pure brilliance.

While many have been frustrated with what seemed like unsuccessful attempts and discombobulated synergy by Rudy, Sidney, Lin and Jenna at the individual swing state level, the reality is they may have all just been collecting MASSIVE amounts of evidence within the 6 states knowing Original Jurisdiction was ALWAYS going to be the play.

It immediately consolidates all of the swing states with many of the loyal PT states like a Florida for example where a very friendly Gov resides.

And here is the best part about Original Jurisdiction cases……..

Because it is the highest court in the United States, the Supreme Court’s decision in original jurisdiction cases is final, with no right of appeal.

So IMO, get ready to hear the term Original Jurisdiction and watch if many pro Trump states don’t immediately file suit post 9:00 a.m. tomorrow as IMO they could already have them cued up just waiting to hit the electronic file button.

 

[豪猪困境]

学习，没有想到官司还能打到高院。

 

[阿吾]

学习，没有想到官司还能打到高院。

你们太相信主流媒体了，我到处看各种专家分析，
那些内容主流媒体是不会播放的，删都来不及那。。。

 

[豪猪困境]

这是12/07 我看到的分析，那个时候普通人都不知道有德克萨斯州起诉这种事，
果不其然，第二天州起诉开始，各州跟上，
他下一个预测是，选举人投票会暂时中止

明天会判选举人投票暂时中止吗？

 

[豪猪困境]

你们太相信主流媒体了，我到处看各种专家分析，
那些内容主流媒体是不会播放的，删都来不及那。。。

如果12月14日，选举人继续投票会怎样？川普还有翻盘的机会吗？

 

[阿吾]

明天会判选举人投票暂时中止吗？

我写了几种可能，

我读了德克萨斯的状纸，诉求是：

1 暂缓或暂时限制这4个州在选举学院投票（12/14), 直至本法院进一步命令，然后再针对这些情况发出初步禁令，直至本案根据案情结束为止.

2 或者，法院应根据案情，撤消违宪的2020年选举结果的证明，将选举人任命交给立法机关

1 This Court should first administratively stay ortemporarily restrain the Defendant States fromvoting in the electoral college until further order ofthis Court and then issue a preliminary injunction orstay against their doing so until the conclusion of thiscase on the merits.

2 Alternatively, the Court shouldreach the merits, vacate the Defendant States’ elector certifications from the unconstitutional 2020 electionresults, and
remand to the Defendant States’ legislatures pursuant to 3 U.S.C. § 2 to appointelectors

法院判决几个可能性

可能性1： 宣布11/4以后的邮寄票作废， 那么川普肯定就是赢了（
因为告的是这几个州没有根据通过州立法委随便改了截止日，
我记得大法官阿利托曾经要求宾州把11/4以后受到邮寄票，分别计数

可能性2： 因为这4个州问题多多，干脆判4各州票作废，这样双方都到达不了270票，
最后引入宪法12修正案，一州一票，红州26票，川普赢

感觉可能性1与2是诉求1 想达到的效果。

可能性3：就是诉求2的要求，由州议会来决定选举人，这个就是把皮球踢回州议会，高法最轻松

可能性4： 驳回起诉

我个人感觉 可能性3的的可能性最大，
如果是可能性4，我看川普会做一些事。。。

 

[豪猪困境]

我写了几种可能，

不判是那种可能？

我刚才读了你转帖的英文分析，州起诉的目标是要赶在12月8日之前，获得最高法院的判决，已经错过了，是不是就算失败了？

The brilliance of this approach is, in one shot they can move all 6 states to the SC and temporary halt the seeding of their electors, all by possibly noon tomorrow and all beating the safe harbor deadline.

 

[阿吾]

不判是那种可能？

我刚才读了你转帖的英文分析，州起诉的目标是要赶在12月8日之前，获得最高法院的判决，已经错过了，是不是就算失败了？

我觉得应该说的是12/14，halt 选举人投票，事实上德克萨斯的诉求1也是这个

 

[豪猪困境]

我觉得应该说的是12/14，halt 选举人投票，事实上德克萨斯的诉求1也是这个

那就看明天了。