我们将川普获胜的概率调降到1% ： 川普币大降价至0.01家园币，10家园币即可购买1000个

因川普承认败选，我们认为川普几乎没有可能再连任4年。

外部FTX的川普二月币概率降到1.3% ，我们也将川普币的概率调降到1% ：

川普币大降价至0.01家园币，10家园币即可购买1000个 。

每人限购10000川普币。

https://forum.iask.ca/dbtech-credits/currency/3/?tab=purchase

 

[Tianhai]

家园币是admin最想要的，因为是增值资产，净值已经从0变成0.35 。我们收入家园币可以高效率的回收股本。

加币是不断贬值的资产，只是临时过渡货币，这是家园币系统有任何加币收入之后，立即转化成其他资产的原因。

ok. 明白了。

 

[admin]

如果1月20号定不下来，到3月4号总统定下之前，VP，HS代理总统

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3月4日是没有任何法律意义的日子。

如果川普不能在1月20日之前推翻大选结果，后面的事情已经完全和他无关。

即使万一有所谓绝不可能发生的代理总统事件，也是新候任副总统，新house leader的事情，和前一届政府无关。

 

[阿吾]

3月4日是没有任何法律意义的日子。

如果川普不能在1月20日之前推翻大选结果，后面的事情已经完全和他无关。

即使万一有所谓绝不可能发生的代理总统事件，也是新候任副总统，新house leader的事情，和前一届政府无关。

非也，俺读的可是宪法，代理总统写的很清楚，
如果众议院在选择权转移给他们时不选出总统，则在下一个三月四日之前，由副总统 act as President，Act President是啥意思很清楚吧。。。

if the House of Representatives shall not choose a President whenever the right of choice shall devolve upon them, before the fourth day of March next following, then the Vice-President shall act as President,

The 12th Amendment of the U.S. Constitution

The Electors shall meet in their respective states and vote by ballot for President and Vice-President, one of whom, at least, shall not be an inhabitant of the same state with themselves;

constitutioncenter.org

The Electors shall meet in their respective states and vote by ballot for President and Vice-President, one of whom, at least, shall not be an inhabitant of the same state with themselves; they shall name in their ballots the person voted for as President, and in distinct ballots the person voted for as Vice-President, and they shall make distinct lists of all persons voted for as President, and of all persons voted for as Vice-President, and of the number of votes for each, which lists they shall sign and certify, and transmit sealed to the seat of the government of the United States, directed to the President of the Senate;

-- The President of the Senate shall, in the presence of the Senate and House of Representatives, open all the certificates and the votes shall then be counted;

-- The person having the greatest number of votes for President, shall be the President, if such number be a majority of the whole number of Electors appointed; and if no person have such majority, then from the persons having the highest numbers not exceeding three on the list of those voted for as President, the House of Representatives shall choose immediately, by ballot, the President.

But in choosing the President, the votes shall be taken by states, the representation from each state having one vote; a quorum for this purpose shall consist of a member or members from two-thirds of the states, and a majority of all the states shall be necessary to a choice.

And if the House of Representatives shall not choose a President whenever the right of choice shall devolve upon them, before the fourth day of March next following, then the Vice-President shall act as President, as in case of the death or other constitutional disability of the President.

-- The person having the greatest number of votes as Vice-President, shall be the Vice-President, if such number be a majority of the whole number of Electors appointed, and if no person have a majority, then from the two highest numbers on the list, the Senate shall choose the Vice-President; a quorum for the purpose shall consist of two-thirds of the whole number of Senators, and a majority of the whole number shall be necessary to a choice. But no person constitutionally ineligible to the office of President shall be eligible to that of Vice-President of the United States

 

[阿吾]

我刚才还谷歌了“acting president 2021”, 几乎没有实质性或者主流，哪怕半主流的新闻报道或者好文章出现。所以，我，我只是说我本人，不相信川普能当选。其实只要开一个“川普币”即可。“拜登币”应该取消，等于白送增值家园币。

谁还继续相信川普继任，直接去买“川普币”即可。看看主流新闻，应该已有答案。

再去看看1960年以及2000年总统大选结果的纷争的历史结果，一般可以看出端倪。那两年的纷争，尼克松和戈尔都是站出前台讲很多话，至少来力争。而这次，川普呢，除了大选结果刚出来前几天，其后他本人几乎对此不提了。除了他用了一两个律师在前台吼了几句（这个youtube上有），还有就是你一直追随的tweet啊facebook的博主那些人。

他本人都沉默了。我都怀疑他一看拜登要上台了，“天要下雨，。。。”，那“你就接手干吧” （我猜他的腹语）。。。

我从来不看tweet和facebook，所以说我看得不够全面。

顺便提一下，我喜欢川普，远多于拜登。理由很多。

过几天知道结果了，宪法12修正案，最近讨论的很多，
主流媒体当然不愿意讨论，不愿意报道，google search 屏蔽对民主党不利消息，我以前开贴说过
Act as President在宪法12修正案里有。。。

 

[admin]

非也，俺读的可是宪法，代理总统写的很清楚，
如果众议院在选择权转移给他们时不选出总统，则在下一个三月四日之前，由副总统 act as President，act President是啥意思很清楚吧。。。

if the House of Representatives shall not choose a President whenever the right of choice shall devolve upon them, before the fourth day of March next following, then the Vice-President shall act as President,

The 12th Amendment of the U.S. Constitution

The Electors shall meet in their respective states and vote by ballot for President and Vice-President, one of whom, at least, shall not be an inhabitant of the same state with themselves;

constitutioncenter.org

The Electors shall meet in their respective states and vote by ballot for President and Vice-President, one of whom, at least, shall not be an inhabitant of the same state with themselves; they shall name in their ballots the person voted for as President, and in distinct ballots the person voted for as Vice-President, and they shall make distinct lists of all persons voted for as President, and of all persons voted for as Vice-President, and of the number of votes for each, which lists they shall sign and certify, and transmit sealed to the seat of the government of the United States, directed to the President of the Senate;

-- The President of the Senate shall, in the presence of the Senate and House of Representatives, open all the certificates and the votes shall then be counted;

-- The person having the greatest number of votes for President, shall be the President, if such number be a majority of the whole number of Electors appointed; and if no person have such majority, then from the persons having the highest numbers not exceeding three on the list of those voted for as President, the House of Representatives shall choose immediately, by ballot, the President.

But in choosing the President, the votes shall be taken by states, the representation from each state having one vote; a quorum for this purpose shall consist of a member or members from two-thirds of the states, and a majority of all the states shall be necessary to a choice.

And if the House of Representatives shall not choose a President whenever the right of choice shall devolve upon them, before the fourth day of March next following, then the Vice-President shall act as President, as in case of the death or other constitutional disability of the President.

-- The person having the greatest number of votes as Vice-President, shall be the Vice-President, if such number be a majority of the whole number of Electors appointed, and if no person have a majority, then from the two highest numbers on the list, the Senate shall choose the Vice-President; a quorum for the purpose shall consist of two-thirds of the whole number of Senators, and a majority of the whole number shall be necessary to a choice. But no person constitutionally ineligible to the office of President shall be eligible to that of Vice-President of the United States

你可能有点穿越了，因为你说的是1803的宪法，早在1933年宪法第20修正案里面修法了。

Twentieth Amendment to the United States Constitution - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

1933年的修正案把总统就职日期从原来的3月4日提到现在的1月20日，国会日期从3月4日提到1月3日。

如果候任总统不能就职，候任副总统就职。

 

[阿吾]

我刚才还谷歌了“acting president 2021”, 几乎没有实质性或者主流，哪怕半主流的新闻报道或者好文章出现。所以，我，我只是说我本人，不相信川普能当选。其实只要开一个“川普币”即可。“拜登币”应该取消，等于白送增值家园币。

谁还继续相信川普继任，直接去买“川普币”即可。看看主流新闻，应该已有答案。

再去看看1960年以及2000年总统大选结果的纷争的历史结果，一般可以看出端倪。那两年的纷争，尼克松和戈尔都是站出前台讲很多话，至少来力争。而这次，川普呢，除了大选结果刚出来前几天，其后他本人几乎对此不提了。除了他用了一两个律师在前台吼了几句（这个youtube上有），还有就是你一直追随的tweet啊facebook的博主那些人。

他本人都沉默了。我都怀疑他一看拜登要上台了，“天要下雨，。。。”，那“你就接手干吧” （我猜他的腹语）。。。

我从来不看tweet和facebook，所以说我看得不够全面。

顺便提一下，我喜欢川普，远多于拜登。理由很多。

我搜了一下，acting president 2021 US ，很多啊。

 

[Tianhai]

我搜了一下，acting president 2021 US ，很多啊。

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是搜到这些。我搜到也是这些链接。没看出什么名堂。有的是wiki, 有的是大学和学术机构的文章，我不认为对本次大选最后还能搞出一个“代理总统”有什么意义。

 

[Chinada]

民主党下周二可能会拿下参议院。因为通过川普团队的不懈努力，共和党选民已经既不相信美国的选举制度，也不相信共和党了，预计很多人不会参加星期二的参议院补选投票。

 

[徽州女人]

gift 10个当新年礼物送徽州女人，
手续费挺高的， 八毛收了我一元二，

怎么想起来给我送新年礼物啊？因为我给你说了一个荒谬的小故事吗？为了顺利通过双阴检测我已经在家宅一个星期了，今天天不错出去转了3个小时，才看见。虽然我更喜欢川普，但是依然还是觉得川普币会象泡沫一样化为乌有，我就不再买了，不过这不妨碍我领你的情，好歹你也花了一块二
据说白石有灯展，我又得出门了。给你看看前两星期我们在白石海边放风筝的视频吧，无论支持川普或拜登，愿大家放下不快，放飞心情，和和睦睦，健健康康，新年快乐
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[sabre]

怎么想起来给我送新年礼物啊？因为我给你说了一个荒谬的小故事吗？为了顺利通过双阴检测我已经在家宅一个星期了，今天天不错出去转了3个小时，才看见。虽然我更喜欢川普，但是依然还是觉得川普币会象泡沫一样化为乌有，我就不再买了，不过这不妨碍我领你的情，好歹你也花了一块二
据说白石有灯展，我又得出门了。给你看看前两星期我们在白石海边放风筝的视频吧，无论支持川普或拜登，愿大家放下不快，放飞心情，和和睦睦，健健康康，新年快乐浏览附件648087
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恭喜你得了一个超赞

 

[阿吾]

你可能有点穿越了，因为你说的是1803的宪法，早在1933年宪法第20修正案里面修法了。

Twentieth Amendment to the United States Constitution - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

1933年的修正案把总统就职日期从原来的3月4日提到现在的1月20日，国会日期从3月4日提到1月3日。

如果候任总统不能就职，候任副总统就职。

是啊，如果候任总统不能就职，由候任副总统接任，这个很正常。

但是在候任总统发生争议的时候，比如现在就是这个，咋办？
我主要是看到科鲁兹提出10天讨论调查提案，
还有昨晚纳瓦罗上电视说，彭斯有权给他们十天的时间，还说就职日期可以重新安排，
我就想，会不会出现超过1月20的情况，

anyway，我就是考虑周全一点，万一发生省的扯皮，
不发生最好，2月前最终的总统定了下来，

第20条修正案

如果在其任期开始的预定时间之前（1月20号吧）未选出总统（现在的情况就是有了争议）。。。

Section 3.

If, at the time fixed for the beginning of the term of the President, the President elect shall have died, the Vice President elect shall become President.

If a President shall not have been chosen before the time fixed for the beginning of his term, or if the President elect shall have failed to qualify, then the Vice President elect shall act as President until a President shall have qualified;

and the Congress may by law provide for the case wherein neither a President elect nor a Vice President elect shall have qualified, declaring who shall then act as President, or the manner in which one who is to act shall be selected, and such person shall act accordingly until a President or Vice President shall have qualified.

 

[admin]

宪法第十二修正案和第20修正案第三条，都说到了可能需要延期的状况。

anyway，我就是考虑周全一点，万一发生省的扯皮，
不发生最好，2月前最终的总统定了下来，

现在我没有看到任何需要延期到1月20日之后的状况和可能。

如果有超级异常情况，比如2月1日出现了不是“川普，或者拜登”总统的情况，我们会基于common sense的公平原则，延期或者以11月3日大选最终实际获胜党派来决定。

重新开放以后，当前拜登币一方已经卖出10500拜登币，川普币一方不用过于担心延期的异常情况，购买拜登币的一方损失将是12倍。

如有特殊情况，网站会公平处理的：包括无解的情况下返回所有购买。

 

[轩辕悬]

如有特殊情况，网站会公平处理的：包括无解的情况下返回所有购买。

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这世界已经没有什么是不可能发生的了。谁知道这次大选还会再出什么幺蛾子，支持admin大特殊情况特殊处理，这样对网友最公平。

 

[admin]

赞

这世界已经没有什么是不可能发生的了。谁知道这次大选还会再出什么幺蛾子，支持admin大特殊情况特殊处理，这样对网友最公平。

从法律和程序上，美国这次大选结果是几乎完全确定的，川普当前大部分努力都是象征性和表演性质的。

川普支持者的信心，现在实质上也很微弱了。

我们重新开放川普币和拜登币之后，销售数据显示了这一点 ：

即使川普币跌价40%到0.08，拜登币涨到0.95， 拜登币的销售额仍100倍川普币，

拜登币6人购买总金额14725家园币， 川普币2人购买总金额146家园币。​

拜登币的销售金额是100倍川普币，如果这个数字不发生变化，显示论坛用户对川普获胜的概率和信心只有1%。

我们现在需要付736家园币给拜登币购买者，而川普币的收入只有146 家园币。