每天都会看见一些西人工作的时候聊天，很多都是政府职能部门，比如修理草坪工人，环卫人员，地铁修理工等人，一聊天或者抽烟休息就是1-2个小时，还有很多我们看不到的政府工作人员那些人，从他们的办事流程足以看到他们工作的拖沓，同样是入籍申请，为什么人多过蒙城的多伦多只要半年，而蒙特利尔却要1年多甚至一年半呢？
是什么让他们如此放心大胆得工作时间聊天偷懒？
是什么让他们如此放心大胆得工作时间聊天偷懒？
你会不会渐渐也跟本地人一样懒惰拖沓得工作？
- 主题发起人 szshenhua
- 发布时间 2009-02-09
回复: 你会不会渐渐也跟本地人一样懒惰拖沓得工作？
这帖要顶!!
也是我的朋友们多次提醒小弟的...
这帖要顶!!
也是我的朋友们多次提醒小弟的...
回复: 你会不会渐渐也跟本地人一样懒惰拖沓得工作？
加拿大的工作方式，他们的领导都这样，上行下效你让一个铁饭碗的公务员能有多大觉悟？工作多累啊，不聊白不聊，聊了也白聊还有工资拿不是。
加拿大的工作方式，他们的领导都这样，上行下效你让一个铁饭碗的公务员能有多大觉悟？工作多累啊，不聊白不聊，聊了也白聊还有工资拿不是。
回复: 你会不会渐渐也跟本地人一样懒惰拖沓得工作？
楼下的回答一个问题吧, 怎么才能混入这个腐败阶层阿?
我们要好好研究一下了.
技术移民难道只能一辈子在这儿做苦力吗?
在这个平等的国家, 我们有没有机会混入政府部门?
拜托英语法语好的移友, 开拓思路, 积极进取,为我们后来的人引航领路啊!
学一个大学学历也要4年5年, 不如把目标改成做公务员, 应该也有办法会成功吧.
楼下的回答一个问题吧, 怎么才能混入这个腐败阶层阿?
我们要好好研究一下了.
技术移民难道只能一辈子在这儿做苦力吗?
在这个平等的国家, 我们有没有机会混入政府部门?
拜托英语法语好的移友, 开拓思路, 积极进取,为我们后来的人引航领路啊!
学一个大学学历也要4年5年, 不如把目标改成做公务员, 应该也有办法会成功吧.
回复: 你会不会渐渐也跟本地人一样懒惰拖沓得工作？
政府工作是你们的真正理想？
换句话说让自己越来越懒惰是你们真正的理想？
政府工作是你们的真正理想？
换句话说让自己越来越懒惰是你们真正的理想？
回复: 你会不会渐渐也跟本地人一样懒惰拖沓得工作？
请看这则政府工作招聘吧，这样你就知道怎么准备进入政府工作了。
http://jobs-emplois.gc.ca/index-eng.htm
CS RECRUITMENT AND DEV PROGRAM - UNIVERSITY AND SYSTEM DEV AND INFRASTRUCTURE- COLLEGIAL
Department Name: Statistics Canada
Location: Ottawa
Classification: CS - 01
Salary: $47,575 to $59,817
Closing Date: March 31, 2009 - 23:59, Pacific Time Useful Information
Reference Number: STC08J-009229-000023
Selection Process Number: 08-STC-EA-NCR-652-197- Rev1
Employment Tenure: These are full-time permanent positions
Vacancies: 10
Citizenship
Useful Information
Preference will be given to Canadian citizens. Please indicate in your application the reason for which you are entitled to work in Canada: Canadian citizenship, permanent resident status or work permit.
Language Proficiency
Useful Information
Applicants must demonstrate in their application that they meet the following merit criteria to be retained for further consideration.
English or French essential
Education
Useful Information
Education for the CS Recruitment and Development Program - University
Applicants must demonstrate in their application that they meet the following merit criteria to be retained for further consideration. Completion by June 30, 2009 of a degree from a recognized university in Computer Science, Information Technology (IT) or a related IT field.
OR
Education for the CS-01 System Development and Infrastructure - Collegial
Applicants must demonstrate in their application that they meet the following merit criteria to be retained for further consideration. Completion by June 30, 2009 of a two year diploma from a recognized college or CEGEP in Computer Science, Information Technology (IT) or a related IT field.
Experience
Recent experience* in computer programming or infrastructure technology;
OR
Recent completion of practical IT assignments.
* Experience can usually be demonstrated through volunteer work, student employment and or scholastic activity or achievement. Therefore candidates are encouraged to indicate on their resumé, activities and or experience related to their field that they feel may be pertinent to the types of employment they are seeking.
Other Merit Criteria and Conditions of Employment
Organizational Needs which may apply for this position.
Selection may be limited to members of the following Employment Equity groups: Aboriginal persons, visible minorities, persons with disabilities, women
Operational Requirements which may apply for this position.
Weekends, overtime and shift work may be required.
Conditions of Employment: Security Reliability status*
*This factor is not used at the preselection stage. The hiring department is responsible for the security clearance process.
Statement of Merit Criteria
Applicants who meet the above criteria will also be assessed against the Statement of Merit Criteria for this position.
Challenge
CS Recruitment and Development Program University:
Recent university graduates in Informatics who join Statistics Canada have the prospect of a challenging and rewarding career. As a new recruit, you will participate in a two-year development program during which you can expect several (usually three) diverse project assignments. Following the completion of the Recruitment and Development Program, you will be eligible for a promotion at the CS-02 level.
CS-01 System Development and Infrastructure Collegial:
Individuals hired at the CS-01 Collegial level will be placed directly into one of Statistics Canada’s many diverse divisions.
Statistics Canada offers a wide range of IT opportunities in the software development and maintenance domain and in the infrastructure services domain. The majority of opportunities in infrastructure services domain are in the Informatics Technology Services Division within the Informatics Branch. In the software development domain the opportunities are primarily in the Systems Development Division in the Informatics Branch however there are also software development, maintenance and operations opportunities in program areas across the Agency.
The System Development Division is responsible for the design, development and maintenance of software applications in support of statistical and administrative programs of Statistics Canada and provides advice for a range of informatics-related services.
The set of services comprises the provision of:
Application Development Services of quality business applications to Statistics Canada programs working in partnership with the clients. This task requires obtaining detailed requirements from clients, designing and building an application that meets the requirements within a suitable technological framework, testing the application and training users.
Application Maintenance and Support Services of existing business applications in support of Statistics Canada programs. Maintenance includes activities to keep the application functional throughout the system evolution: corrective maintenance, adaptive maintenance and enhancement. Production support includes activities related to the support of production runs, data structures, data base support and end-users assistance.
Development and support of reusable Generalized Systems for common survey processing functions to improve the efficiency and reliability of IT solutions.
The Informatics Technology Services Division is responsible for the development, delivery and maintenance of a set of informatics services in support of statistical and administrative programs of Statistics Canada in Headquarters and regional offices.
The set of services comprises the provision of:
Secure, cost-effective and efficient mainframe and data communication services.
Technical and consultative support services across a variety of platforms to facilitate secure, cost-effective and efficient end-user computing.
A comprehensive and cost-effective departmental informatics training program for all Statistics Canada employees.
A comprehensive informatics security program to guarantee confidentiality of data in compliance with the Statistics Act.
Additional Requirements / Comments
Candidates with foreign credentials must provide proof of Canadian equivalency. Consult the Canadian Information Centre for International Credentials for further information at http://www.cicic.ca/2/home.canada
Candidates must meet the Essential Qualifications to be appointed to the position. Candidates may be expected to meet, in whole or in part, the criteria related to the Assets, Operational Requirements and Organizational Needs, depending on the position being staffed.
Information to be provided:
You must provide the following information when submitting your application:
Your résumé.
A list of the courses you have taken as well as any courses that you are taking now, or that you will be taking this academic year
Please include your GPA with your list of courses. Academic excellence (usually defined as a B- cumulative average or higher) is an integral part of the selection process; therefore it is important that candidates keep this information current.
Proof of education must be submitted at the interview.
You must ensure that you select at least one employment type when submitting your application: Employment Tenure
Information that is requested:
Contact information for the following number of References: 3
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Important Messages
You may be assessed using one (1) or more of the following tools: standardize test, a written examination, interview, simulation exercise and/or a reference check.
Only on-line applications are accepted. Do not fax or mail in hard copy documents as these will not be accepted.
Applicants will receive all correspondence by e-mail. Please include in your application the e-mail address you would like us to use. It is your responsibility to notify us of any e-mail address change, phone change, or change in your grade point average (GPA).
If you do not have Internet access in your home or through friends, relatives or neighbours, here are some suggested locations: campus career centres, libraries, community centres, Internet cafés, and Public Service Commission (PSC) regional offices.
You may also call 1-800-O-Canada (1-800-622-6232), or TTY 1-800-926-9105, for information on the nearest public Internet access locations.
Applicants with disabilities: If you require a technical aid or an alternative method of assessment to ensure an equitable assessment of your qualifications, please indicate so in your application.
Person with a disability preventing them from applying on-line should contact us at 1-800-645-5605.
Your résumé must clearly demonstrate how you meet the requirements.
We thank all those who apply. Only those selected for further consideration will be contacted.
Questions regarding travel and relocation.
The Public Service of Canada is committed to building a skilled, diverse workforce reflective of Canadian society. As a result, it promotes employment equity and encourages candidates to indicate voluntarily on their application if they are a woman, an Aboriginal person, a person with a disability or a member of a visible minority group.
The Public Service of Canada is also committed to developing inclusive, barrier-free selection processes and work environments. If contacted in relation to a job opportunity or testing, you should advise the Public Service Commission or the departmental official in a timely fashion of the accommodation measures which must be taken to enable you to be assessed in a fair and equitable manner. Information received relating to accommodation measures will be addressed confidentially.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Apply Online
请看这则政府工作招聘吧，这样你就知道怎么准备进入政府工作了。
http://jobs-emplois.gc.ca/index-eng.htm
CS RECRUITMENT AND DEV PROGRAM - UNIVERSITY AND SYSTEM DEV AND INFRASTRUCTURE- COLLEGIAL
Department Name: Statistics Canada
Location: Ottawa
Classification: CS - 01
Salary: $47,575 to $59,817
Closing Date: March 31, 2009 - 23:59, Pacific Time Useful Information
Reference Number: STC08J-009229-000023
Selection Process Number: 08-STC-EA-NCR-652-197- Rev1
Employment Tenure: These are full-time permanent positions
Vacancies: 10
Citizenship
Useful Information
Preference will be given to Canadian citizens. Please indicate in your application the reason for which you are entitled to work in Canada: Canadian citizenship, permanent resident status or work permit.
Language Proficiency
Useful Information
Applicants must demonstrate in their application that they meet the following merit criteria to be retained for further consideration.
English or French essential
Education
Useful Information
Education for the CS Recruitment and Development Program - University
Applicants must demonstrate in their application that they meet the following merit criteria to be retained for further consideration. Completion by June 30, 2009 of a degree from a recognized university in Computer Science, Information Technology (IT) or a related IT field.
OR
Education for the CS-01 System Development and Infrastructure - Collegial
Applicants must demonstrate in their application that they meet the following merit criteria to be retained for further consideration. Completion by June 30, 2009 of a two year diploma from a recognized college or CEGEP in Computer Science, Information Technology (IT) or a related IT field.
Experience
Recent experience* in computer programming or infrastructure technology;
OR
Recent completion of practical IT assignments.
* Experience can usually be demonstrated through volunteer work, student employment and or scholastic activity or achievement. Therefore candidates are encouraged to indicate on their resumé, activities and or experience related to their field that they feel may be pertinent to the types of employment they are seeking.
Other Merit Criteria and Conditions of Employment
Organizational Needs which may apply for this position.
Selection may be limited to members of the following Employment Equity groups: Aboriginal persons, visible minorities, persons with disabilities, women
Operational Requirements which may apply for this position.
Weekends, overtime and shift work may be required.
Conditions of Employment: Security Reliability status*
*This factor is not used at the preselection stage. The hiring department is responsible for the security clearance process.
Statement of Merit Criteria
Applicants who meet the above criteria will also be assessed against the Statement of Merit Criteria for this position.
Challenge
CS Recruitment and Development Program University:
Recent university graduates in Informatics who join Statistics Canada have the prospect of a challenging and rewarding career. As a new recruit, you will participate in a two-year development program during which you can expect several (usually three) diverse project assignments. Following the completion of the Recruitment and Development Program, you will be eligible for a promotion at the CS-02 level.
CS-01 System Development and Infrastructure Collegial:
Individuals hired at the CS-01 Collegial level will be placed directly into one of Statistics Canada’s many diverse divisions.
Statistics Canada offers a wide range of IT opportunities in the software development and maintenance domain and in the infrastructure services domain. The majority of opportunities in infrastructure services domain are in the Informatics Technology Services Division within the Informatics Branch. In the software development domain the opportunities are primarily in the Systems Development Division in the Informatics Branch however there are also software development, maintenance and operations opportunities in program areas across the Agency.
The System Development Division is responsible for the design, development and maintenance of software applications in support of statistical and administrative programs of Statistics Canada and provides advice for a range of informatics-related services.
The set of services comprises the provision of:
Application Development Services of quality business applications to Statistics Canada programs working in partnership with the clients. This task requires obtaining detailed requirements from clients, designing and building an application that meets the requirements within a suitable technological framework, testing the application and training users.
Application Maintenance and Support Services of existing business applications in support of Statistics Canada programs. Maintenance includes activities to keep the application functional throughout the system evolution: corrective maintenance, adaptive maintenance and enhancement. Production support includes activities related to the support of production runs, data structures, data base support and end-users assistance.
Development and support of reusable Generalized Systems for common survey processing functions to improve the efficiency and reliability of IT solutions.
The Informatics Technology Services Division is responsible for the development, delivery and maintenance of a set of informatics services in support of statistical and administrative programs of Statistics Canada in Headquarters and regional offices.
The set of services comprises the provision of:
Secure, cost-effective and efficient mainframe and data communication services.
Technical and consultative support services across a variety of platforms to facilitate secure, cost-effective and efficient end-user computing.
A comprehensive and cost-effective departmental informatics training program for all Statistics Canada employees.
A comprehensive informatics security program to guarantee confidentiality of data in compliance with the Statistics Act.
Additional Requirements / Comments
Candidates with foreign credentials must provide proof of Canadian equivalency. Consult the Canadian Information Centre for International Credentials for further information at http://www.cicic.ca/2/home.canada
Candidates must meet the Essential Qualifications to be appointed to the position. Candidates may be expected to meet, in whole or in part, the criteria related to the Assets, Operational Requirements and Organizational Needs, depending on the position being staffed.
Information to be provided:
You must provide the following information when submitting your application:
Your résumé.
A list of the courses you have taken as well as any courses that you are taking now, or that you will be taking this academic year
Please include your GPA with your list of courses. Academic excellence (usually defined as a B- cumulative average or higher) is an integral part of the selection process; therefore it is important that candidates keep this information current.
Proof of education must be submitted at the interview.
You must ensure that you select at least one employment type when submitting your application: Employment Tenure
Information that is requested:
Contact information for the following number of References: 3
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Important Messages
You may be assessed using one (1) or more of the following tools: standardize test, a written examination, interview, simulation exercise and/or a reference check.
Only on-line applications are accepted. Do not fax or mail in hard copy documents as these will not be accepted.
Applicants will receive all correspondence by e-mail. Please include in your application the e-mail address you would like us to use. It is your responsibility to notify us of any e-mail address change, phone change, or change in your grade point average (GPA).
If you do not have Internet access in your home or through friends, relatives or neighbours, here are some suggested locations: campus career centres, libraries, community centres, Internet cafés, and Public Service Commission (PSC) regional offices.
You may also call 1-800-O-Canada (1-800-622-6232), or TTY 1-800-926-9105, for information on the nearest public Internet access locations.
Applicants with disabilities: If you require a technical aid or an alternative method of assessment to ensure an equitable assessment of your qualifications, please indicate so in your application.
Person with a disability preventing them from applying on-line should contact us at 1-800-645-5605.
Your résumé must clearly demonstrate how you meet the requirements.
We thank all those who apply. Only those selected for further consideration will be contacted.
Questions regarding travel and relocation.
The Public Service of Canada is committed to building a skilled, diverse workforce reflective of Canadian society. As a result, it promotes employment equity and encourages candidates to indicate voluntarily on their application if they are a woman, an Aboriginal person, a person with a disability or a member of a visible minority group.
The Public Service of Canada is also committed to developing inclusive, barrier-free selection processes and work environments. If contacted in relation to a job opportunity or testing, you should advise the Public Service Commission or the departmental official in a timely fashion of the accommodation measures which must be taken to enable you to be assessed in a fair and equitable manner. Information received relating to accommodation measures will be addressed confidentially.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Apply Online
回复: 你会不会渐渐也跟本地人一样懒惰拖沓得工作？
老大，你混到那个地步自己也不会认为自己是懒惰的，工作都那样，慢慢干贝，自己拼命干也不多得没准儿还遭人烦呢！
你的话应该是：换句话说让自己工作收入越来越稳定，娱乐工作是真正的理想。
老大，你混到那个地步自己也不会认为自己是懒惰的，工作都那样，慢慢干贝，自己拼命干也不多得没准儿还遭人烦呢！
你的话应该是：换句话说让自己工作收入越来越稳定，娱乐工作是真正的理想。
回复: 你会不会渐渐也跟本地人一样懒惰拖沓得工作？
否则又被你说成吃不到葡萄说葡萄酸了。。。老大，你混到那个地步自己也不会认为自己是懒惰的，工作都那样，慢慢干贝，自己拼命干也不多得没准儿还遭人烦呢！
你的话应该是：换句话说让自己工作收入越来越稳定，娱乐工作是真正的理想。
回复: 你会不会渐渐也跟本地人一样懒惰拖沓得工作？
政府工作也不是那么高不可攀的, 不过先入籍是一定要的.
政府工作也不是那么高不可攀的, 不过先入籍是一定要的.
回复: 你会不会渐渐也跟本地人一样懒惰拖沓得工作？
此帖讨论的不是如何找政府工，而是那些公务员懒惰浪费时间获得高福利薪水，这对得起老百姓的纳税吗？这算不算政府变相浪费国家的钱，如果大家再把政府每年的开支研究一下，就不难发现加拿大政府以及地方机构花钱如流水（相比而言），这跟贪污受贿异曲同工吗？
此帖讨论的不是如何找政府工，而是那些公务员懒惰浪费时间获得高福利薪水，这对得起老百姓的纳税吗？这算不算政府变相浪费国家的钱，如果大家再把政府每年的开支研究一下，就不难发现加拿大政府以及地方机构花钱如流水（相比而言），这跟贪污受贿异曲同工吗？
回复: 你会不会渐渐也跟本地人一样懒惰拖沓得工作？
孰不知：有些政府要职中国人是禁止入内的，尽管你已经是加拿大公民，政府照样会追溯你之前身份的。当然不仅仅是中国人，有曾经质疑过，政府解释，美国政府也是这样的。。。
孰不知：有些政府要职中国人是禁止入内的，尽管你已经是加拿大公民，政府照样会追溯你之前身份的。当然不仅仅是中国人，有曾经质疑过，政府解释，美国政府也是这样的。。。
回复: 你会不会渐渐也跟本地人一样懒惰拖沓得工作？
我倒是没觉得加拿大政府部门办事拖沓, 反倒是他们的办事态度比国内的那帮大爷好太多了, 上星期去办护照, 人家全程微笑服务, 有什么问题都尽量解答, 然后告诉我们护照两个星期左右就可以办好.
在中国大家都不守规矩, 所以认识人的话办事就特别快, 在这里相对公平一点, 所以在国内有些关系的人就不太习惯了. 其实对大多数而言, 我觉得加拿大的办事效率比中国高很多.
我倒是没觉得加拿大政府部门办事拖沓, 反倒是他们的办事态度比国内的那帮大爷好太多了, 上星期去办护照, 人家全程微笑服务, 有什么问题都尽量解答, 然后告诉我们护照两个星期左右就可以办好.
在中国大家都不守规矩, 所以认识人的话办事就特别快, 在这里相对公平一点, 所以在国内有些关系的人就不太习惯了. 其实对大多数而言, 我觉得加拿大的办事效率比中国高很多.
回复: 你会不会渐渐也跟本地人一样懒惰拖沓得工作？
我觉得新人们可以提出这样的疑问，神话怎么也会问类似的业余问题
（没有任何价值判断的意思）
我觉得是一种变相的腐败和贪污，而且这种做法没有任何风险。只不过对纳税人的钱――中国官员是暗偷，加拿大是明抢――法律规定了，您年薪10万加元，没人去质疑，质疑也没有用。
我觉得新人们可以提出这样的疑问，神话怎么也会问类似的业余问题
（没有任何价值判断的意思）我觉得是一种变相的腐败和贪污，而且这种做法没有任何风险。只不过对纳税人的钱――中国官员是暗偷，加拿大是明抢――法律规定了，您年薪10万加元，没人去质疑，质疑也没有用。
回复: 你会不会渐渐也跟本地人一样懒惰拖沓得工作？
不能说魁北克公务员都是坏的。但我这一个多月一直在办一个和政府打交道的事，他们拖沓，不负责任，的情况可以切身感受。大家都是HUMAN BEING，有些东西只有你在和它们谈话，或从每一封往来信件的口气中才能感觉到那种傲慢和刁难。连律师都不耐烦地说THEY ALWAYS MAKE MISTAKES
不能说魁北克公务员都是坏的。但我这一个多月一直在办一个和政府打交道的事，他们拖沓，不负责任，的情况可以切身感受。大家都是HUMAN BEING，有些东西只有你在和它们谈话，或从每一封往来信件的口气中才能感觉到那种傲慢和刁难。连律师都不耐烦地说THEY ALWAYS MAKE MISTAKES
回复: 你会不会渐渐也跟本地人一样懒惰拖沓得工作？
不光政府部门，这边的工作节奏普遍比国内慢---享受生活吗！
作为新工作的新移民，多多少少会不适应，我力图做到：
1． 和别人合作的时候，干得不能太快。否则容易被老员工认为有威胁，还会破坏这里多年形成的轻松氛围。
2． 不过自己私下里，不能松懈。多看书，多学习。有些任务很快就做完了，可以多复查几遍。或者用别的方法再实现一下。这样既拖延了时间，也没有浪费自己的青春。
不光政府部门，这边的工作节奏普遍比国内慢---享受生活吗！
作为新工作的新移民，多多少少会不适应，我力图做到：
1． 和别人合作的时候，干得不能太快。否则容易被老员工认为有威胁，还会破坏这里多年形成的轻松氛围。
2． 不过自己私下里，不能松懈。多看书，多学习。有些任务很快就做完了，可以多复查几遍。或者用别的方法再实现一下。这样既拖延了时间，也没有浪费自己的青春。
回复: 你会不会渐渐也跟本地人一样懒惰拖沓得工作？
顶楼上!
用当地人的速度,认真的完成工作.
想换好工作的就利用多余的时间给自己充电,满足现状的就享受生活!
顶楼上!
用当地人的速度,认真的完成工作.
想换好工作的就利用多余的时间给自己充电,满足现状的就享受生活!
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