求助房租加价问题

最近刚又一个范例出来, 就是住了超过一年的房客, 房东要涨2/30%, 租客告了以后,判决是landlord preference。
因为合约到期本来就是应当搬走的,对双方来说,一年过后的下一张合约都是新合约,所以如果不满意就请在合约到期时搬走。新的一年,双方尚未签订任何契约之前, 价钱基本就是随便房东开。
搞懂了,你说的是特殊的一种合同,就是写明,到期要搬走的那种
对于那种合同,重新签订的时候,随便开价
楼主的合同中如果没有写明到期必须要搬走,自动变成monthly tenancy,就不能随便涨

Ending the tenancy
12 [For example, if the tenant wants to move at the end of May, the tenant must make sure the landlord receives written notice on or before April 30th.]

(1) The tenant may end a monthly, weekly or other periodic tenancy by giving the landlord at least one month's written notice. A notice given the day before the rent is due in a given month ends the tenancy at the end of the following month.

(2) This notice must be in writing and must

(a) include the address of the rental unit,

(b) include the date the tenancy is to end,

(c) be signed and dated by the tenant, and

(d) include the specific grounds for ending the tenancy, if the tenant is ending a tenancy because the landlord has breached a material term of the tenancy.

(3) If this is a fixed term tenancy and the agreement does not require the tenant to vacate at the end of the tenancy, the agreement is renewed as a monthly tenancy on the same terms until the tenant gives notice to end a tenancy as required under the Residential Tenancy Act.

(4) The landlord may end the tenancy only for the reasons and only in the manner set out in the Residential Tenancy Act and the landlord must use the approved notice to end a tenancy form available from the Residential Tenancy office.

(5) The landlord and tenant may mutually agree in writing to end this tenancy agreement at any time.

(6) The tenant must vacate the residential property by 1 p.m. on the day the tenancy ends, unless the landlord and tenant otherwise agree.
 
官方说,额外加租要不房客同意,要不上诉租客委员会
http://www2.gov.bc.ca/gov/content/h...nancy/rent-increases/additional-rent-increase
这里其实一直存在一个盲点, 就是所有的这些规定,都必须在双方有租赁契约的关系的事实之下才有意义。
所以, 报道引述法官的判例,解释房东与房客在合约到期之后,双方若没有预设对于房客续租有优先权的情况下,合约到期日之后房东得以再行另觅租客。
这个房东决定涨租2/30%,房客于是状告租客委员会,但是双方已经合约期满,没有签订新的合约关系,房东当然在理。
 
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搞懂了,你说的是特殊的一种合同,就是写明,到期要搬走的那种
对于那种合同,重新签订的时候,随便开价
楼主的合同中如果没有写明到期必须要搬走,自动变成monthly tenancy,就不能随便涨

Ending the tenancy
12 [For example, if the tenant wants to move at the end of May, the tenant must make sure the landlord receives written notice on or before April 30th.]

(1) The tenant may end a monthly, weekly or other periodic tenancy by giving the landlord at least one month's written notice. A notice given the day before the rent is due in a given month ends the tenancy at the end of the following month.

(2) This notice must be in writing and must

(a) include the address of the rental unit,

(b) include the date the tenancy is to end,

(c) be signed and dated by the tenant, and

(d) include the specific grounds for ending the tenancy, if the tenant is ending a tenancy because the landlord has breached a material term of the tenancy.

(3) If this is a fixed term tenancy and the agreement does not require the tenant to vacate at the end of the tenancy, the agreement is renewed as a monthly tenancy on the same terms until the tenant gives notice to end a tenancy as required under the Residential Tenancy Act.

(4) The landlord may end the tenancy only for the reasons and only in the manner set out in the Residential Tenancy Act and the landlord must use the approved notice to end a tenancy form available from the Residential Tenancy office.

(5) The landlord and tenant may mutually agree in writing to end this tenancy agreement at any time.

(6) The tenant must vacate the residential property by 1 p.m. on the day the tenancy ends, unless the landlord and tenant otherwise agree.
不必特意写明到期要搬走,双方合约到期除非已经另订新约, 否则就该是搬走。
除非合约里另外载明,旧租客有优先续租权,否则租客没啥保障可以赖着不走。
 
没有, 现在找不到,找到了我私给你。
你看我的贴有段时间了, 我从不胡扯,有证据才说话。
你错了就是错了,我体会你理解错了。下面是BC官方的,你自己看看:
Renewal of Tenancy Agreement Term

A fixed term tenancy agreement may specify the date by which the tenant must move out. If no date is specified, and the landlord and tenant do not sign a new tenancy agreement, the tenancy agreement automatically converts to a month-to-month tenancy and all other terms in the tenancy agreement continue to be in effect.
 
你错了就是错了,我体会你理解错了。下面是BC官方的,你自己看看:
Renewal of Tenancy Agreement Term

A fixed term tenancy agreement may specify the date by which the tenant must move out. If no date is specified, and the landlord and tenant do not sign a new tenancy agreement, the tenancy agreement automatically converts to a month-to-month tenancy and all other terms in the tenancy agreement continue to be in effect.

这里明明写着,如果没有定哪天搬走,就自动Renew。
 
你错了就是错了,我体会你理解错了。下面是BC官方的,你自己看看:
Renewal of Tenancy Agreement Term

A fixed term tenancy agreement may specify the date by which the tenant must move out. If no date is specified, and the landlord and tenant do not sign a new tenancy agreement, the tenancy agreement automatically converts to a month-to-month tenancy and all other terms in the tenancy agreement continue to be in effect.

别这么逗行吗, 你见过还是签过没有载明合约期限的合约??
 
这里明明写着,如果没有定哪天搬走,就自动Renew。
同意,我也觉得crystallintw理解错了。特意写明需要搬走的才必须搬走。crystallintw引用的案例是写明必须搬走(租赁关系合同到期后结束),后来租客不想搬了,在这样的情况下,房东才能随便涨价。
 
你错了就是错了,我体会你理解错了。下面是BC官方的,你自己看看:
Renewal of Tenancy Agreement Term

A fixed term tenancy agreement may specify the date by which the tenant must move out. If no date is specified, and the landlord and tenant do not sign a new tenancy agreement, the tenancy agreement automatically converts to a month-to-month tenancy and all other terms in the tenancy agreement continue to be in effect.
当房东在到期前一个月通知你到期时请搬走, 你给搬出你的合约说,上面没写到期时我必须要搬走,现在到期了我也不搬走, 你觉得这种道理说得通吗?
在国内我不知道, 在这里肯定说不通。
 
别这么逗行吗, 你见过还是签过没有载明合约期限的合约??
你英文是不是有问题呀,还是理解能力不行,你不是引用了,A fixed term tenancy agreement may specify the date by which the tenant must move out. If no date is specified, and the landlord and tenant do not sign a new tenancy agreement, the tenancy agreement automatically converts to a month-to-month tenancy and all other terms in the tenancy agreement continue to be in effect.

No date指的是上一句的搬走日期,不是合同到期日期。
 
同意,我也觉得crystallintw理解错了。特意写明需要搬走的才必须搬走。crystallintw引用的案例是写明必须搬走(租赁关系合同到期后结束),后来租客不想搬了,在这样的情况下,房东才能随便涨价。
不是我理解错了, 是两位把这个“fixed term”缩小化, 把“may specify the date by which the tenant must move out. If no date is specified”无限放大了。
 
其实BC对房东很Nice了,居然还可以在合同里加这一条,其实就是给房东随便加价的后门嘛。以后“房客同意在Lease最后一天搬走”会成为合同标准文本的。
想当年我在安省当房东,哪有这条啊?房客只要给租,你就拿他一点办法都没有。

连我要卖房都不行!
 
不是我理解错了, 是两位把这个“fixed term”缩小化, 把“may specify the date by which the tenant must move out. If no date is specified”无限放大了。
当房东在到期前一个月通知你到期时请搬走, 你给搬出你的合约说,上面没写到期时我必须要搬走,现在到期了我也不搬走, 你觉得这种道理说得通吗?
在国内我不知道, 在这里肯定说不通。
签订fix term的时候要写清楚,到期请搬走,当时没写的,都不能随意加。
不能在快到期的时候要求房客搬走的。房东赶房客走,只能自住。
楼主回去看看,租房合同上有没有到期请搬走的条款。
 
其实BC对房东很Nice了,居然还可以在合同里加这一条,其实就是给房东随便加价的后门嘛。以后“房客同意在Lease最后一天搬走”会成为合同标准文本的。
想当年我在安省当房东,哪有这条啊?房客只要给租,你就拿他一点办法都没有。

连我要卖房都不行!
你搬去阿尔伯塔省吧,对房东保护最好了。随便加租。每月加个几百块都行。
 
不是我理解错了, 是两位把这个“fixed term”缩小化, 把“may specify the date by which the tenant must move out. If no date is specified”无限放大了。
我放弃了,可你别呼悠LZ行不。人家一个人带孩子在这里钱又不多搬哪里去?
LZ啊,你自己去有关部门问吧,反正这里都是参考。
 
你英文是不是有问题呀,还是理解能力不行,你不是引用了,A fixed term tenancy agreement may specify the date by which the tenant must move out. If no date is specified, and the landlord and tenant do not sign a new tenancy agreement, the tenancy agreement automatically converts to a month-to-month tenancy and all other terms in the tenancy agreement continue to be in effect.

No date指的是上一句的搬走日期,不是合同到期日期。
附上租赁管理委员会建议的合约格式,这个格式里对于合约到期后是否可以以月结的方式来继续承租,有明确的建议。
值得特别说一下的, 是即使勾选了到期日搬走的选项, 房客仍然可以要求重新签订一张新的契约。并不是到期就只能搬走。
这个建议也并不是“规定”的合约形式, 只是租赁委员会建议的格式。
两位的理解与我的稍有出入, 而我给楼主的建议, 就是在合约到期的同时, 除非有特别载明了可转为月结模式, 否则房东可以收回房子要求重新签约或涨租。
两位若是想要楼主以合约未具体载明搬走日,并据此要求房东不得涨房租超过委员会规定的比例,是不是也考虑为无助的楼主上告及出庭?


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签订fix term的时候要写清楚,到期请搬走,当时没写的,都不能随意加。
不能在快到期的时候要求房客搬走的。房东赶房客走,只能自住。
楼主回去看看,租房合同上有没有到期请搬走的条款。
没写要搬走啊,好像合同完了后按月给房租。
 

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