[评论]输油管之战：阿省立法！可即时掐断温哥华的油气

[SLS]

这不有借口全部从华盛顿州买油了?阿拉斯加的油也非常多，大不了买俄毛子的。港口经济时代大洋海边省份应该不怕制裁冲突。萨省插这浑水似乎不明智，它农产品不靠BC帮着卖啦?

BC省再不让步，下一步就可能是掐断太平洋铁路和高速公路，让BC的港口和贸易公司们去死吧。BC有什么？不就靠港口和贸易赚钱吗？

 

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yibingsg 网友回复：
阿省的石油是全体加拿大人民的财富，BC省不能为了一己私利损坏全国一盘棋。
http://forum.iask.ca/threads/评论-加拿大已有2个省站队：力挺阿省-bc省不能胡搞.848766/
不知道以谁的意见为准？

 

[iou2007]

嗯，你能不能给个出处，让我来学习一下，另外打一下那位网友的脸。

Under the Constitution Act, 1867, the original provinces of Confederation retained ownership of crown lands and resources within their boundaries. When BC and PEI joined Confederation in 1871 and 1873, they too retained ownership of natural resources. But when the Prairie provinces were created (Manitoba in 1870, Alberta and Saskatchewan in 1905) a new and controversial policy emerged. In these provinces, ownership of natural resources was retained by the federal government to provide funds for colonization and railway building. Not until 1930, after a sometimes bitter political struggle, were natural-resource rights transferred by the federal government to the Prairie provinces. By this time, most of the agricultural lands had been transferred into private ownership; but because the federal government had reserved mineral rights when disposing of land in the prairies and had granted restricted tenures, the provincial governments inherited a rich treasure house of resource rights under the 1930 transfer. It is as a consequence of these rights that Alberta grants oil and gas leases and receives oil and gas royalties; that Manitoba can develop vast hydroelectric power resources to sell in the US; and that Saskatchewan controls uranium and potash reserves of worldwide significance.

 

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BC省再不让步，下一步就可能是掐断太平洋铁路和高速公路，让BC的港口和贸易公司们去死吧。BC有什么？不就靠港口和贸易赚钱吗？

你这口气好熟悉，怎么这么像共产党常用的威胁口吻？

 

[iou2007]

你这口气好熟悉，怎么这么像共产党常用的威胁口吻？

亚省和萨省现在就是在威胁你，省政府掐断油管只是第一步，后面还有后续手段，谁说不能断公路？

 

[SLS]

你这口气好熟悉，怎么这么像共产党常用的威胁口吻？

BC省现在不就是在威胁几百万阿尔伯特省人的生计吗？别人就不能威胁？再这样僵持下去国家都有可能分裂。BC省人不能这样自私吧？

 

[awander]

嗯，你能不能给个出处，让我来学习一下，另外打一下那位网友的脸。

Provincial/Territorial Governments
The 1982 amendments to the Constitution Act, 1867 explicitly recognized provinces’ and territories’ constitutional rights to manage their own non-renewable natural resources, forestry resources, and electrical energy. This includes the power to levy mining taxes and royalties.

Section 92A stipulates that each province’s legislature can enact laws related to:

• exploring non-renewable resources, and
• developing, conserving and managing non-renewable and forestry resources.

As well, provincial legislatures can make laws relating to raising money by any mode or system of taxation with respect to non-renewable natural resources as long as such laws do not result in differential taxation between primary production processed within the province and primary production exported to another part of Canada.
https://www.nrcan.gc.ca/mining-materials/taxation/8882

 

[iou2007]

我很好奇彻底撕破脸，贸易战打起来，温哥华的房子还能值多少钱。这个恐怕才是最要命的。

 

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亚省和萨省现在就是在威胁你，省政府掐断油管只是第一步，后面还有后续手段，谁说不能断公路？

这个世界上，离了谁也不会死，如果亚省和萨省这样做，吃亏的未必是BC省，倒是可能便宜了别人，按照你这么说，日本，英国这些岛国应该早就完蛋了才对。

 

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我很好奇彻底撕破脸，贸易战打起来，温哥华的房子还能值多少钱。这个恐怕才是最要命的。

欢迎欢迎，BC省贫苦人民的我表示强烈欢迎，本来温哥华的房子也不应该值这些钱。

 

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Under the Constitution Act, 1867, the original provinces of Confederation retained ownership of crown lands and resources within their boundaries. When BC and PEI joined Confederation in 1871 and 1873, they too retained ownership of natural resources. But when the Prairie provinces were created (Manitoba in 1870, Alberta and Saskatchewan in 1905) a new and controversial policy emerged. In these provinces, ownership of natural resources was retained by the federal government to provide funds for colonization and railway building. Not until 1930, after a sometimes bitter political struggle, were natural-resource rights transferred by the federal government to the Prairie provinces. By this time, most of the agricultural lands had been transferred into private ownership; but because the federal government had reserved mineral rights when disposing of land in the prairies and had granted restricted tenures, the provincial governments inherited a rich treasure house of resource rights under the 1930 transfer. It is as a consequence of these rights that Alberta grants oil and gas leases and receives oil and gas royalties; that Manitoba can develop vast hydroelectric power resources to sell in the US; and that Saskatchewan controls uranium and potash reserves of worldwide significance.

谢谢，不知道那位网友现在作何感想？

 

[iou2007]

这个世界上，离了谁也不会死，如果亚省和萨省这样做，吃亏的未必是BC省，倒是可能便宜了别人，按照你这么说，日本，英国这些岛国应该早就完蛋了才对。

自我感觉还挺好。英国有金融业，日本有制造业，请问BC省有什么呀。

 

[awander]

我有点奇怪，那么北方油管线路是怎么被否的呢？法律上的东西，我在隔壁帖子已经解释了，立法是一回事，执法是另外一回事。

油管建设，和其他通商交通一样， 是联邦权限。 联邦政府已经批准了这样油管，所以BC无权阻断。 但联邦否定了另一油管。

这次小土豆想用胡萝卜（钱）和大棒（立法）两手来搞定BC。 这大棒源于宪法中的油管建设是联邦权限一条。 想不到这傻瓜也有一两个不是太傻的谋士。

 

[iou2007]

谢谢，不知道那位网友现在作何感想？

英语读明白了吗?

 

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BC省现在不就是在威胁几百万阿尔伯特省人的生计吗？别人就不能威胁？再这样僵持下去国家都有可能分裂。BC省人不能这样自私吧？

我有个疑问，现在几百万阿省人民快要饿死了吗？你要不在这个论坛里做个调查，看看阿省的人民是不是水深火热了？

 

[SLS]

这个世界上，离了谁也不会死，如果亚省和萨省这样做，吃亏的未必是BC省，倒是可能便宜了别人，按照你这么说，日本，英国这些岛国应该早就完蛋了才对。

日本一亿多人的市场，英国5，6千万，BC省400万，这屁大点市场。能做啥？阿省不从BC出口，走美国还不更便宜？好像离了BC省就不行似的。别忘了每年阿省和莎省给联邦几百亿的钱。

 

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油管建设，和其他通商交通一样， 是联邦权限。 联邦政府已经批准了这样油管，所以BC无权阻断。 但联邦否定了另一油管。

这次小土豆想用胡萝卜（钱）和大棒（立法）两手来搞定BC。 这大棒源于宪法中的油管建设是联邦权限一条。 想不到这傻瓜也有一两个不是太傻的谋士。

我要给你纠正一下，不是联邦否了，而是BC起诉到联邦法院，官司赢了，联邦政府输了，所以批准了并不意味着合法。

 

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日本一亿多人的市场，英国5，6千万，BC省400万，这屁大点市场。能做啥？阿省不从BC出口，走美国还不更便宜？好像离了BC省就不行似的。别忘了每年阿省和莎省给联邦几百亿的钱。

哦，感情阿省还可以走美国啊，而且还便宜，那干嘛非得修一条存在危险隐患的油管经过BC呢，直接走美国不就行了？

 

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自我感觉还挺好。英国有金融业，日本有制造业，请问BC省有什么呀。

BC有什么不用我说，你可以自己查一下看看，呵呵，你当BC省是沙漠？

 

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英语读明白了吗?

你仔细看了我上面的帖子了吗？