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吹响“追责新冠元凶”的号角?

有的中国人的幸灾乐祸太明显,比美国人更厉害。
叫二鬼子所言不虚。
还好有的美国人反应正常。
如果美国人都和二鬼子一样一边倒,那美国真的没救了。

 
直接说找中国追责不就得了,瞧把你们给憋的。现在欧美那帮政客为了掩饰自己的蠢猪都不如的能力,不一直在甩锅给中国吗?这篇文章说了半天虽没点名中国,但潜台词里已经认定是中国的责任了,直接说出来吧,何必做这种脱了裤子放屁,做了婊子还想立牌坊的事呢?
就服你。
西方那些甩锅的,藏着掖着干嘛呀,有本事就直接说呗。然后咱们坛里这帮无脑的跟着就转。
要是真想干坏事,做都做了,还怕你追责。只要手上有核武器,没人敢真正找你麻烦的。一动真格的,这班孙子第一个报名上中文培训班。
 

北美大款

让子弹再飞一会儿
不知如果第一点被证实是起源于美国,会是个什么结局?
第二点,美国也有吹哨人,为何美国还是搞成这个样子?
新冠最先在中国发生,它是一种全新的病毒,谁也不会想到这个病毒会如此严重,早期有误判也无可厚非。Trump不也一开始认为只是一个普通的流感吗?倒是欧美在看到中国举国抗疫之时居然还没有意识到这个病毒的厉害,一味地幸灾乐祸隔岸观火,还对中国的抗疫措施沽名钓誉地说三道四,这个时候因为自己的愚蠢搞成了乱摊子了,就想找人背责任,还有比这更无耻的吗?

现在怪中国早期没有控制好的欧美的那帮蠢猪政客,都是事后诸葛亮,既然你们都知道早期不控制会导致全世界流行,为何不在早期对中共施压让中国早点举国抗疫?
中国也是这个疫情的受害者好吗?
行,180国联军索赔中国时,中国就派你上阵舌战180国了。刚看了一新闻,说要索赔中国6兆亿美元,还得接受索伦堡式审判。如果中国不交钱,就直接罚没中国在各国资产。吓得我倾遗三屎,改革这点儿成果全给了世界各国人民都不够。东方红,太阳升,中国出了个chanllenger,全指望你了
 

北美大款

让子弹再飞一会儿
不知如果第一点被证实是起源于美国,会是个什么结局?
第二点,美国也有吹哨人,为何美国还是搞成这个样子?
新冠最先在中国发生,它是一种全新的病毒,谁也不会想到这个病毒会如此严重,早期有误判也无可厚非。Trump不也一开始认为只是一个普通的流感吗?倒是欧美在看到中国举国抗疫之时居然还没有意识到这个病毒的厉害,一味地幸灾乐祸隔岸观火,还对中国的抗疫措施沽名钓誉地说三道四,这个时候因为自己的愚蠢搞成了乱摊子了,就想找人背责任,还有比这更无耻的吗?

现在怪中国早期没有控制好的欧美的那帮蠢猪政客,都是事后诸葛亮,既然你们都知道早期不控制会导致全世界流行,为何不在早期对中共施压让中国早点举国抗疫?
中国也是这个疫情的受害者好吗?
你的这个逻辑思维实在太差了!
首先是“因果关系”。以新冠疫情这事举例,中国是“因”,国外是“果”;中国在“前”,国外在“后”。也就是说,中国是这个疫情的起因,国外的乱象是中国造成的结果。中国是始发,国外是终点。所以,国外后期如何抗疫不利,国外领导人如何以为等等,都不能否定中国作为始作俑者的罪恶。并不是说国外后期如何混乱,死的人比中国死的还多etc.就可以抵消或否定中国的罪恶。“因”造成的“果”,“果”不能否定“因”。
就好比你爸生了你,你是你爸的果。如果没有你爸,就不会有你。而不能说有了你,你爸就不存在了。懂么?
我上面只是借疫情给你说明这个逻辑关系。究竟中国是不是新冠的起点,这个需要专家论证。不过,暂时武汉作为首发地,如果没有证据证明有另外地方先于武汉就有这个疫情,那么恐怕很难推翻中国武汉是起源这个论点了。
你提出疫情起源美国这个假设对于我上述两点有什么逻辑关系么?
另外你能证实疫情起源于美国么?如果你不能证实,你凭空抛出一个结局会如何又有什么意义呢?顺便说一句,已经证实早期美国那些死于流感的患者的确是死于流感,无一是新冠。详见有关新闻。
美国有没有吹哨人&美国现在搞成这样,Trump或者谁无论一开始如何以为,国外无论多么糟糕,隔岸观火幸灾乐祸etc.,都不能抵消中国的罪恶(假如证实是中国的起源和隐瞒延迟),只会增加中国的罪恶。
另外,最大的症结在于当局封口李文亮/艾芬。误判与否是基于医学论证,而不是几个小片警的认知。明明已经有专业人士(李文亮/艾芬)对该病毒的预警,那俩片警是基于什么去封他们的口呢?那俩片警具备医学专业知识么?那俩片警手里有其它专业病毒专家的研究结果足以推翻李文亮和艾芬的警告么?

问题的关键在于:

  1. 病毒是否中国人为制造
  2. 中国是否存在隐瞒延迟
 
最后编辑: 2020-04-19
中国的错误有两方面:

是否是人工合成
是否存在隐瞒、延迟公布

第一点需要有专业病毒专家调查研究后认定。第二点,人所共知的吹哨人李文亮和递哨人艾芬,中共恐怕难以抵赖。

如果第一点再确实,那就是默克尔说的,比东条英机还罪恶的惩罚。

所以,发生瘟疫不是错,但是如果这瘟疫是人为的,那就是一层罪,如果刻意隐瞒,那就是二层罪。
这是问题症结所在
WHO派专家去中国两次,都说疫情透明。谁说中国隐瞒疫情?是Trump,请问你相信谁?是相信专业的公卫专家还是一个政客?
 
我相信事实!你难道不知道武汉当局封口李文亮/艾芬以及8个吹哨人的事?如果不知道,现在搜一下CCTV当时的报道https://images.app.goo.gl/UznUeVoqXZXC6d6m9
当然训诫李文亮是不对的,但李也是收到卫健委的通知才得到的消息。就像台湾得到了大陆的消息后就发邮件给WHO说想了解更多的情况,就成了美国所说的吹哨人了?能不能要点脸。
 

北美大款

让子弹再飞一会儿
当然训诫李文亮是不对的,但李也是收到卫健委的通知才得到的消息。就像台湾得到了大陆的消息后就发邮件给WHO说想了解更多的情况,就成了美国所说的吹哨人了?能不能要点脸。
我不太懂你说的意思,你的意思是李文亮是从卫健委那得到的新冠消息?我是头一次听说是这样。我怎么记得好像是眼科医生李文亮发现自己的一个患者携带类似非典的病毒,或者是艾芬最初通知那8个医生,要不怎么说艾芬是递哨人呢。
无论怎样,事实是这个疫情早就被发现,但是被当局捂住了。这就是隐瞒和延迟!
 
当然训诫李文亮是不对的,但李也是收到卫健委的通知才得到的消息。就像台湾得到了大陆的消息后就发邮件给WHO说想了解更多的情况,就成了美国所说的吹哨人了?能不能要点脸。

土共與世衛隱瞞疫情禍害世界更不要臉。

中國一月就封城封省,世衛譚書記隱瞞疫情,粉飾太平,誤導世界,還怪美國封鎖中國,世衛如果與美國同步宣佈封鎖中國,讓病毒鎖在鐵幕裡,世界就不會有義大利西班牙,法國,紐約等慘劇了。
 
你的这个逻辑思维实在太差了!
首先是“因果关系”。以新冠疫情这事举例,中国是“因”,国外是“果”;中国在“前”,国外在“后”。也就是说,中国是这个疫情的起因,国外的乱象是中国造成的结果。中国是始发,国外是终点。所以,国外后期如何抗疫不利,国外领导人如何以为等等,都不能否定中国作为始作俑者的罪恶。并不是说国外后期如何混乱,死的人比中国死的还多etc.就可以抵消或否定中国的罪恶。“因”造成的“果”,“果”不能否定“因”。
就好比你爸生了你,你是你爸的果。如果没有你爸,就不会有你。而不能说有了你,你爸就不存在了。懂么?
我上面只是借疫情给你说明这个逻辑关系。究竟中国是不是新冠的起点,这个需要专家论证。不过,暂时武汉作为首发地,如果没有证据证明有另外地方先于武汉就有这个疫情,那么恐怕很难推翻中国武汉是起源这个论点了。
你提出疫情起源美国这个假设对于我上述两点有什么逻辑关系么?
另外你能证实疫情起源于美国么?如果你不能证实,你凭空抛出一个结局会如何又有什么意义呢?顺便说一句,已经证实早期美国那些死于流感的患者的确是死于流感,无一是新冠。详见有关新闻。
美国有没有吹哨人&美国现在搞成这样,Trump或者谁无论一开始如何以为,国外无论多么糟糕,隔岸观火幸灾乐祸etc.,都不能抵消中国的罪恶(假如证实是中国的起源和隐瞒延迟),只会增加中国的罪恶。
另外,最大的症结在于当局封口李文亮/艾芬。误判与否是基于医学论证,而不是几个小片警的认知。明明已经有专业人士(李文亮/艾芬)对该病毒的预警,那俩片警是基于什么去封他们的口呢?那俩片警具备医学专业知识么?那俩片警手里有其它专业病毒专家的研究结果足以推翻李文亮和艾芬的警告么?

问题的关键仅在于:

病毒是否中国人为制造
中国是否存在隐瞒延迟

看不出你的逻辑思维好在哪里。
从你的语气跟用词,已经认定中国的责任,罪魁祸首,始作俑者都用上了,相信美国那帮蠢猪的政客也没你这么武断吧。
怎么着,你很期待甚至渴望中国被追责是吗?
我不能证实疫情起源于美国,但你能证实疫情一定是起源于武汉或中国么?疫情是从武汉开始扩散不假,但零号病人找不到,你又是凭什么认定中国应该被追责?
美国那些死于流感的患者的确是死于流感?在电视上采访中哪个谁亲口承认有些是死于新冠你完全没看到?
你眼中的因果只是你认知局限性的先入为主,什么是因什么是果现在还没有定论,你也不要急于想像纠集180国联军来浑水摸鱼了,最终结果很可能会让你失望。这个世界如果真的打算像100多年前的那样无事生非地欺负中国,那还真得再掂量掂量自己的斤两。
 
行,180国联军索赔中国时,中国就派你上阵舌战180国了。刚看了一新闻,说要索赔中国6兆亿美元,还得接受索伦堡式审判。如果中国不交钱,就直接罚没中国在各国资产。吓得我倾遗三屎,改革这点儿成果全给了世界各国人民都不够。东方红,太阳升,中国出了个chanllenger,全指望你了

阴阳怪气式的语气,看着就令人厌恶。
中国被追责,不正是你们独轮运斗士所期望的么?为何还屎尿失禁了?兴奋的?
不知如果事情不如你所愿,你会不会失望的中风?
凡事降低点期望值吧,对你的健康有好处。
 
中国的错误有两方面:

是否是人工合成
是否存在隐瞒、延迟公布

第一点需要有专业病毒专家调查研究后认定。第二点,人所共知的吹哨人李文亮和递哨人艾芬,中共恐怕难以抵赖。

如果第一点再确实,那就是默克尔说的,比东条英机还罪恶的惩罚。

所以,发生瘟疫不是错,但是如果这瘟疫是人为的,那就是一层罪,如果刻意隐瞒,那就是二层罪。
这是问题症结所在

是否人工合成,这篇文章可能让你失望了:

The proximal origin of SARS-CoV-2
Nature Medicine volume 26, pages450–452(2020)Cite this article
To the Editor — Since the first reports of novel pneumonia (COVID-19) in Wuhan, Hubei province, China1,2, there has been considerable discussion on the origin of the causative virus, SARS-CoV-23 (also referred to as HCoV-19)4. Infections with SARS-CoV-2 are now widespread, and as of 11 March 2020, 121,564 cases have been confirmed in more than 110 countries, with 4,373 deaths5.
SARS-CoV-2 is the seventh coronavirus known to infect humans; SARS-CoV, MERS-CoV and SARS-CoV-2 can cause severe disease, whereas HKU1, NL63, OC43 and 229E are associated with mild symptoms6. Here we review what can be deduced about the origin of SARS-CoV-2 from comparative analysis of genomic data. We offer a perspective on the notable features of the SARS-CoV-2 genome and discuss scenarios by which they could have arisen. Our analyses clearly show that SARS-CoV-2 is not a laboratory construct or a purposefully manipulated virus.
Notable features of the SARS-CoV-2 genome
Our comparison of alpha- and betacoronaviruses identifies two notable genomic features of SARS-CoV-2: (i) on the basis of structural studies7,8,9 and biochemical experiments1,9,10, SARS-CoV-2 appears to be optimized for binding to the human receptor ACE2; and (ii) the spike protein of SARS-CoV-2 has a functional polybasic (furin) cleavage site at the S1–S2 boundary through the insertion of 12 nucleotides8, which additionally led to the predicted acquisition of three O-linked glycans around the site.
1. Mutations in the receptor-binding domain of SARS-CoV-2
The receptor-binding domain (RBD) in the spike protein is the most variable part of the coronavirus genome1,2. Six RBD amino acids have been shown to be critical for binding to ACE2 receptors and for determining the host range of SARS-CoV-like viruses7. With coordinates based on SARS-CoV, they are Y442, L472, N479, D480, T487 and Y4911, which correspond to L455, F486, Q493, S494, N501 and Y505 in SARS-CoV-27. Five of these six residues differ between SARS-CoV-2 and SARS-CoV (Fig. 1a). On the basis of structural studies7,8,9 and biochemical experiments1,9,10, SARS-CoV-2 seems to have an RBD that binds with high affinity to ACE2 from humans, ferrets, cats and other species with high receptor homology7.
Fig. 1: Features of the spike protein in human SARS-CoV-2 and related coronaviruses.
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a, Mutations in contact residues of the SARS-CoV-2 spike protein. The spike protein of SARS-CoV-2 (red bar at top) was aligned against the most closely related SARS-CoV-like coronaviruses and SARS-CoV itself. Key residues in the spike protein that make contact to the ACE2 receptor are marked with blue boxes in both SARS-CoV-2 and related viruses, including SARS-CoV (Urbani strain). b, Acquisition of polybasic cleavage site and O-linked glycans. Both the polybasic cleavage site and the three adjacent predicted O-linked glycans are unique to SARS-CoV-2 and were not previously seen in lineage B betacoronaviruses. Sequences shown are from NCBI GenBank, accession codes MN908947, MN996532, AY278741, KY417146 and MK211376. The pangolin coronavirus sequences are a consensus generated from SRR10168377 and SRR10168378 (NCBI BioProject PRJNA573298)29,30.
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While the analyses above suggest that SARS-CoV-2 may bind human ACE2 with high affinity, computational analyses predict that the interaction is not ideal7 and that the RBD sequence is different from those shown in SARS-CoV to be optimal for receptor binding7,11. Thus, the high-affinity binding of the SARS-CoV-2 spike protein to human ACE2 is most likely the result of natural selection on a human or human-like ACE2 that permits another optimal binding solution to arise. This is strong evidence that SARS-CoV-2 is not the product of purposeful manipulation.
2. Polybasic furin cleavage site and O-linked glycans
The second notable feature of SARS-CoV-2 is a polybasic cleavage site (RRAR) at the junction of S1 and S2, the two subunits of the spike8 (Fig. 1b). This allows effective cleavage by furin and other proteases and has a role in determining viral infectivity and host range12. In addition, a leading proline is also inserted at this site in SARS-CoV-2; thus, the inserted sequence is PRRA (Fig. 1b). The turn created by the proline is predicted to result in the addition of O-linked glycans to S673, T678 and S686, which flank the cleavage site and are unique to SARS-CoV-2 (Fig. 1b). Polybasic cleavage sites have not been observed in related ‘lineage B’ betacoronaviruses, although other human betacoronaviruses, including HKU1 (lineage A), have those sites and predicted O-linked glycans13. Given the level of genetic variation in the spike, it is likely that SARS-CoV-2-like viruses with partial or full polybasic cleavage sites will be discovered in other species.
The functional consequence of the polybasic cleavage site in SARS-CoV-2 is unknown, and it will be important to determine its impact on transmissibility and pathogenesis in animal models. Experiments with SARS-CoV have shown that insertion of a furin cleavage site at the S1–S2 junction enhances cell–cell fusion without affecting viral entry14. In addition, efficient cleavage of the MERS-CoV spike enables MERS-like coronaviruses from bats to infect human cells15. In avian influenza viruses, rapid replication and transmission in highly dense chicken populations selects for the acquisition of polybasic cleavage sites in the hemagglutinin (HA) protein16, which serves a function similar to that of the coronavirus spike protein. Acquisition of polybasic cleavage sites in HA, by insertion or recombination, converts low-pathogenicity avian influenza viruses into highly pathogenic forms16. The acquisition of polybasic cleavage sites by HA has also been observed after repeated passage in cell culture or through animals17.
The function of the predicted O-linked glycans is unclear, but they could create a ‘mucin-like domain’ that shields epitopes or key residues on the SARS-CoV-2 spike protein18. Several viruses utilize mucin-like domains as glycan shields involved immunoevasion18. Although prediction of O-linked glycosylation is robust, experimental studies are needed to determine if these sites are used in SARS-CoV-2.
Theories of SARS-CoV-2 origins
It is improbable that SARS-CoV-2 emerged through laboratory manipulation of a related SARS-CoV-like coronavirus. As noted above, the RBD of SARS-CoV-2 is optimized for binding to human ACE2 with an efficient solution different from those previously predicted7,11. Furthermore, if genetic manipulation had been performed, one of the several reverse-genetic systems available for betacoronaviruses would probably have been used19. However, the genetic data irrefutably show that SARS-CoV-2 is not derived from any previously used virus backbone20. Instead, we propose two scenarios that can plausibly explain the origin of SARS-CoV-2: (i) natural selection in an animal host before zoonotic transfer; and (ii) natural selection in humans following zoonotic transfer. We also discuss whether selection during passage could have given rise to SARS-CoV-2.
1. Natural selection in an animal host before zoonotic transfer
As many early cases of COVID-19 were linked to the Huanan market in Wuhan1,2, it is possible that an animal source was present at this location. Given the similarity of SARS-CoV-2 to bat SARS-CoV-like coronaviruses2, it is likely that bats serve as reservoir hosts for its progenitor. Although RaTG13, sampled from a Rhinolophus affinis bat1, is ~96% identical overall to SARS-CoV-2, its spike diverges in the RBD, which suggests that it may not bind efficiently to human ACE27 (Fig. 1a).
Malayan pangolins (Manis javanica) illegally imported into Guangdong province contain coronaviruses similar to SARS-CoV-221. Although the RaTG13 bat virus remains the closest to SARS-CoV-2 across the genome1, some pangolin coronaviruses exhibit strong similarity to SARS-CoV-2 in the RBD, including all six key RBD residues21 (Fig. 1). This clearly shows that the SARS-CoV-2 spike protein optimized for binding to human-like ACE2 is the result of natural selection.
Neither the bat betacoronaviruses nor the pangolin betacoronaviruses sampled thus far have polybasic cleavage sites. Although no animal coronavirus has been identified that is sufficiently similar to have served as the direct progenitor of SARS-CoV-2, the diversity of coronaviruses in bats and other species is massively undersampled. Mutations, insertions and deletions can occur near the S1–S2 junction of coronaviruses22, which shows that the polybasic cleavage site can arise by a natural evolutionary process. For a precursor virus to acquire both the polybasic cleavage site and mutations in the spike protein suitable for binding to human ACE2, an animal host would probably have to have a high population density (to allow natural selection to proceed efficiently) and an ACE2-encoding gene that is similar to the human ortholog.
2. Natural selection in humans following zoonotic transfer
It is possible that a progenitor of SARS-CoV-2 jumped into humans, acquiring the genomic features described above through adaptation during undetected human-to-human transmission. Once acquired, these adaptations would enable the pandemic to take off and produce a sufficiently large cluster of cases to trigger the surveillance system that detected it1,2.
All SARS-CoV-2 genomes sequenced so far have the genomic features described above and are thus derived from a common ancestor that had them too. The presence in pangolins of an RBD very similar to that of SARS-CoV-2 means that we can infer this was also probably in the virus that jumped to humans. This leaves the insertion of polybasic cleavage site to occur during human-to-human transmission.
Estimates of the timing of the most recent common ancestor of SARS-CoV-2 made with current sequence data point to emergence of the virus in late November 2019 to early December 201923, compatible with the earliest retrospectively confirmed cases24. Hence, this scenario presumes a period of unrecognized transmission in humans between the initial zoonotic event and the acquisition of the polybasic cleavage site. Sufficient opportunity could have arisen if there had been many prior zoonotic events that produced short chains of human-to-human transmission over an extended period. This is essentially the situation for MERS-CoV, for which all human cases are the result of repeated jumps of the virus from dromedary camels, producing single infections or short transmission chains that eventually resolve, with no adaptation to sustained transmission25.
Studies of banked human samples could provide information on whether such cryptic spread has occurred. Retrospective serological studies could also be informative, and a few such studies have been conducted showing low-level exposures to SARS-CoV-like coronaviruses in certain areas of China26. Critically, however, these studies could not have distinguished whether exposures were due to prior infections with SARS-CoV, SARS-CoV-2 or other SARS-CoV-like coronaviruses. Further serological studies should be conducted to determine the extent of prior human exposure to SARS-CoV-2.
3. Selection during passage
Basic research involving passage of bat SARS-CoV-like coronaviruses in cell culture and/or animal models has been ongoing for many years in biosafety level 2 laboratories across the world27, and there are documented instances of laboratory escapes of SARS-CoV28. We must therefore examine the possibility of an inadvertent laboratory release of SARS-CoV-2.
In theory, it is possible that SARS-CoV-2 acquired RBD mutations (Fig. 1a) during adaptation to passage in cell culture, as has been observed in studies of SARS-CoV11. The finding of SARS-CoV-like coronaviruses from pangolins with nearly identical RBDs, however, provides a much stronger and more parsimonious explanation of how SARS-CoV-2 acquired these via recombination or mutation19.
The acquisition of both the polybasic cleavage site and predicted O-linked glycans also argues against culture-based scenarios. New polybasic cleavage sites have been observed only after prolonged passage of low-pathogenicity avian influenza virus in vitro or in vivo17. Furthermore, a hypothetical generation of SARS-CoV-2 by cell culture or animal passage would have required prior isolation of a progenitor virus with very high genetic similarity, which has not been described. Subsequent generation of a polybasic cleavage site would have then required repeated passage in cell culture or animals with ACE2 receptors similar to those of humans, but such work has also not previously been described. Finally, the generation of the predicted O-linked glycans is also unlikely to have occurred due to cell-culture passage, as such features suggest the involvement of an immune system18.
Conclusions
In the midst of the global COVID-19 public-health emergency, it is reasonable to wonder why the origins of the pandemic matter. Detailed understanding of how an animal virus jumped species boundaries to infect humans so productively will help in the prevention of future zoonotic events. For example, if SARS-CoV-2 pre-adapted in another animal species, then there is the risk of future re-emergence events. In contrast, if the adaptive process occurred in humans, then even if repeated zoonotic transfers occur, they are unlikely to take off without the same series of mutations. In addition, identifying the closest viral relatives of SARS-CoV-2 circulating in animals will greatly assist studies of viral function. Indeed, the availability of the RaTG13 bat sequence helped reveal key RBD mutations and the polybasic cleavage site.
The genomic features described here may explain in part the infectiousness and transmissibility of SARS-CoV-2 in humans. Although the evidence shows that SARS-CoV-2 is not a purposefully manipulated virus, it is currently impossible to prove or disprove the other theories of its origin described here. However, since we observed all notable SARS-CoV-2 features, including the optimized RBD and polybasic cleavage site, in related coronaviruses in nature, we do not believe that any type of laboratory-based scenario is plausible.
More scientific data could swing the balance of evidence to favor one hypothesis over another. Obtaining related viral sequences from animal sources would be the most definitive way of revealing viral origins. For example, a future observation of an intermediate or fully formed polybasic cleavage site in a SARS-CoV-2-like virus from animals would lend even further support to the natural-selection hypotheses. It would also be helpful to obtain more genetic and functional data about SARS-CoV-2, including animal studies. The identification of a potential intermediate host of SARS-CoV-2, as well as sequencing of the virus from very early cases, would similarly be highly informative. Irrespective of the exact mechanisms by which SARS-CoV-2 originated via natural selection, the ongoing surveillance of pneumonia in humans and other animals is clearly of utmost importance.

PS; SARS-CoV-2 is covid-19 in medical term

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The proximal origin of SARS-CoV-2

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hkkuo33

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Professor Luc Montagnier, 2008 Nobel Prize winner for Medicine, claims that SARS-CoV-2 is a manipulated virus that was accidentally released from a laboratory in Wuhan, China. Chinese researchers are said to have used coronaviruses in their work to develop an AIDS vaccine. HIV RNA fragments are believed to have been found in the SARS-CoV-2 genome.
 
Professor Luc Montagnier, 2008 Nobel Prize winner for Medicine, claims that SARS-CoV-2 is a manipulated virus that was accidentally released from a laboratory in Wuhan, China. Chinese researchers are said to have used coronaviruses in their work to develop an AIDS vaccine. HIV RNA fragments are believed to have been found in the SARS-CoV-2 genome.

如果没有做过样本研究并发表研究成果,像上面那篇nature文章那样,就算是Nobel奖获得者,能有多大的可信度?
让子弹飞一会吧,普通老百姓认知能力有限,这不是我们该操的心了
 

北美大款

让子弹再飞一会儿
看不出你的逻辑思维好在哪里。
从你的语气跟用词,已经认定中国的责任,罪魁祸首,始作俑者都用上了,相信美国那帮蠢猪的政客也没你这么武断吧。
怎么着,你很期待甚至渴望中国被追责是吗?
我不能证实疫情起源于美国,但你能证实疫情一定是起源于武汉或中国么?疫情是从武汉开始扩散不假,但零号病人找不到,你又是凭什么认定中国应该被追责?
美国那些死于流感的患者的确是死于流感?在电视上采访中哪个谁亲口承认有些是死于新冠你完全没看到?
你眼中的因果只是你认知局限性的先入为主,什么是因什么是果现在还没有定论,你也不要急于想像纠集180国联军来浑水摸鱼了,最终结果很可能会让你失望。这个世界如果真的打算像100多年前的那样无事生非地欺负中国,那还真得再掂量掂量自己的斤两。
现在我对你已经没有太多希望了,唯一的希望就是你能认真看,勤思考,少说话。
我上面只是借疫情给你说明这个逻辑关系。究竟中国是不是新冠的起点,这个需要专家论证。不过,暂时武汉作为首发地,如果没有证据证明有另外地方先于武汉就有这个疫情,那么恐怕很难推翻中国武汉是起源这个论点了。

我不希望中国被追责,我更不希望中国发生任何疫情,我更更不希望疫情发生了不是赶紧亡羊补牢,而是先把羊封口了。
这次不管外国是否能真的追责成功,对中国和中国人来说,都是极大的污点。即使经济上不受损,声誉上也是很大的损失。最大的损失莫过于全球“去中国化”。
这一切全有赖于你这种无知无畏的小粉红,和断交部几个战狼,在小学生领导下一往无前地带领中国重回大清朝。
 

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