美国投资移民 New Life 纽莱芙养老院-EB-5投资移民项目
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这位“土鳖”是国内民政局的吧，该好好研究一下美国的养老福利政策。
知道美国的medicaid吗？Wisconsin的FAMILY CARE和COPP WAIVER。这里给你上上课。学完了，就明白我们为什么要做养老院项目，为什么在WISCONSIN 做养老院。养老院的低收入的老人，是有政府掏钱养老的。所以我们希望老人长寿。 我的几个新雇员的家人就是享受政府补贴的，等我们项目开业，他们从另一家养老院转过来。
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这位“土鳖”是国内民政局的吧，该好好研究一下美国的养老福利政策。
知道美国的medicaid吗？Wisconsin的FAMILY CARE和COPP WAIVER。这里给你上上课。学完了，就明白我们为什么要做养老院项目，为什么在WISCONSIN 做养老院。养老院的低收入的老人，是有政府掏钱养老的。所以我们希望老人长寿。 我的几个新雇员的家人就是享受政府补贴的，等我们项目开业，他们从另一家养老院转过来。
Overview of Managed Care Organizations (MCOs) and the Flexible Family Care Benefit
[FONT=Times New Roman,Times New Roman][FONT=Times New Roman,Times New Roman]Family Care improves the cost-effective coordination of long-term care services by creating a single flexible benefit that includes a large number of health and long-term care services that otherwise would be available through separate programs. A member of a MCO has access to a large number of specific health services offered by Medicaid, as well as the long-term care services in the Home and Community-Based Waivers and the very flexible state-funded Community Options Program. In order to assure access to services, MCOs develop and manage a comprehensive network of long-term care services and support, either through contracts with providers, or by direct service provision by MCO employees. MCOs are responsible for assuring and continually improving the quality of care and services consumers receive. MCOs receive a monthly per person payment to manage and purchase care for their members, who may be living in their own homes, group living situations, or nursing facilities. Some highlights of the Family Care benefit package are: [/FONT]
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[FONT=Times New Roman,Times New Roman][FONT=Times New Roman,Times New Roman]People Receive Services Where They Live[FONT=Times New Roman,Times New Roman][FONT=Times New Roman,Times New Roman]. MCO members receive Family Care services where they live, which may be in their own home or supported apartment, or in alternative residential settings such as [/FONT][/FONT][/FONT][/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman,Times New Roman][FONT=Times New Roman,Times New Roman][FONT=Times New Roman,Times New Roman]
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[FONT=Times New Roman,Times New Roman][FONT=Times New Roman,Times New Roman][FONT=Times New Roman,Times New Roman][FONT=Times New Roman,Times New Roman]As of June 1, 2009, Family Care is available to nearly 60 percent of Wisconsin residents that qualify for publically funded long-term care. Thirty-two ADRCs are operational, serving 55 counties and 1 Tribe, accounting for over 70 percent of the state’s population. [/FONT]
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[FONT=Times New Roman,Times New Roman]Residential Care Apartment Complexes, Community-Based Residential Facilities （我们的养老院是这种）, Adult Family Homes, Nursing Homes, or Intermediate Care Facilities for people with developmental disabilities. [/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman,Times New Roman] [FONT=Times New Roman,Times New Roman][FONT=Times New Roman,Times New Roman]People Receive Interdisciplinary Case Management[/FONT][/FONT]. Each member has support from an interdisciplinary team that consists of, at a minimum, a social worker/care manager and a Registered Nurse. Other professionals, as appropriate, also participate as members of the interdisciplinary team. The interdisciplinary team conducts a comprehensive assessment of the member’s needs, abilities, preferences and values with the consumer and his or her representative, if any. The assessment looks at areas such as: activities of daily living, physical health, nutrition, autonomy and self-determination, communication, and mental health and cognition. [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman,Times New Roman]
[FONT=Times New Roman,Times New Roman][FONT=Times New Roman,Times New Roman]People Participate in Determining the Services They Receive[/FONT][/FONT]. Members or their authorized representatives take an active role with the interdisciplinary team in developing their care plans. MCOs provide support and information to assure members are making informed decisions about their needs and the services they receive. Members may also participate in the Self-Directed Supports component of Family Care, in which they have increased control over their long-term care budgets and providers.
[FONT=Times New Roman,Times New Roman][FONT=Times New Roman,Times New Roman]People Receive Family Care Services that Include: [/FONT][/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman,Times New Roman][FONT=Times New Roman,Times New Roman]Long-Term Care Services [/FONT][/FONT]that have traditionally been part of the Medicaid Waiver programs or the Community Options Program. These include services such as adult day care, home modifications, home delivered meals and supportive home care.
[FONT=Times New Roman,Times New Roman][FONT=Times New Roman,Times New Roman]Health Care Services [/FONT][/FONT]that help people achieve their long-term care outcomes. These services include home health, skilled nursing, mental health services, and occupational, physical and speech therapy. For Medicaid recipients, health care services not included in Family Care are available through the Medicaid fee-for-service program.
[FONT=Times New Roman,Times New Roman][FONT=Times New Roman,Times New Roman]People Receive Help Coordinating Their Primary Health Care[/FONT][/FONT]. In addition to assuring that people get the health and long-term care services in the Family Care benefit package, the MCO interdisciplinary teams also help members coordinate all their health care, including, if needed, helping members get to and communicate with their physicians and helping them manage their treatments and medications.
[FONT=Times New Roman,Times New Roman][FONT=Times New Roman,Times New Roman]People Receive Services to Help Achieve Their Employment Objectives[/FONT][/FONT]. Services such as daily living skills training, day treatment, pre-vocational services and supported employment are included in the Family Care benefit package. Other Family Care services such as transportation and personal care also help people meet their employment goals.
[FONT=Times New Roman,Times New Roman][FONT=Times New Roman,Times New Roman]People Receive the Services that Best Achieve Their Outcomes[/FONT][/FONT]. The MCO is not restricted to providing only the specific services listed in the Family Care benefit package. The MCO interdisciplinary care management team and the member may decide that other services, treatments or supports are more likely to help the member achieve his or her outcomes, and the MCO would then authorize those services in the member’s care plan.
[FONT=Times New Roman,Times New Roman] [FONT=Times New Roman,Times New Roman][FONT=Times New Roman,Times New Roman]People Receive Interdisciplinary Case Management[/FONT][/FONT]. Each member has support from an interdisciplinary team that consists of, at a minimum, a social worker/care manager and a Registered Nurse. Other professionals, as appropriate, also participate as members of the interdisciplinary team. The interdisciplinary team conducts a comprehensive assessment of the member’s needs, abilities, preferences and values with the consumer and his or her representative, if any. The assessment looks at areas such as: activities of daily living, physical health, nutrition, autonomy and self-determination, communication, and mental health and cognition. [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman,Times New Roman]
[FONT=Times New Roman,Times New Roman][FONT=Times New Roman,Times New Roman]People Participate in Determining the Services They Receive[/FONT][/FONT]. Members or their authorized representatives take an active role with the interdisciplinary team in developing their care plans. MCOs provide support and information to assure members are making informed decisions about their needs and the services they receive. Members may also participate in the Self-Directed Supports component of Family Care, in which they have increased control over their long-term care budgets and providers.
[FONT=Times New Roman,Times New Roman][FONT=Times New Roman,Times New Roman]People Receive Family Care Services that Include: [/FONT][/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman,Times New Roman][FONT=Times New Roman,Times New Roman]Long-Term Care Services [/FONT][/FONT]that have traditionally been part of the Medicaid Waiver programs or the Community Options Program. These include services such as adult day care, home modifications, home delivered meals and supportive home care.
[FONT=Times New Roman,Times New Roman][FONT=Times New Roman,Times New Roman]Health Care Services [/FONT][/FONT]that help people achieve their long-term care outcomes. These services include home health, skilled nursing, mental health services, and occupational, physical and speech therapy. For Medicaid recipients, health care services not included in Family Care are available through the Medicaid fee-for-service program.
[FONT=Times New Roman,Times New Roman][FONT=Times New Roman,Times New Roman]People Receive Help Coordinating Their Primary Health Care[/FONT][/FONT]. In addition to assuring that people get the health and long-term care services in the Family Care benefit package, the MCO interdisciplinary teams also help members coordinate all their health care, including, if needed, helping members get to and communicate with their physicians and helping them manage their treatments and medications.
[FONT=Times New Roman,Times New Roman][FONT=Times New Roman,Times New Roman]People Receive Services to Help Achieve Their Employment Objectives[/FONT][/FONT]. Services such as daily living skills training, day treatment, pre-vocational services and supported employment are included in the Family Care benefit package. Other Family Care services such as transportation and personal care also help people meet their employment goals.
[FONT=Times New Roman,Times New Roman][FONT=Times New Roman,Times New Roman]People Receive the Services that Best Achieve Their Outcomes[/FONT][/FONT]. The MCO is not restricted to providing only the specific services listed in the Family Care benefit package. The MCO interdisciplinary care management team and the member may decide that other services, treatments or supports are more likely to help the member achieve his or her outcomes, and the MCO would then authorize those services in the member’s care plan.
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[FONT=Times New Roman,Times New Roman][FONT=Times New Roman,Times New Roman][FONT=Times New Roman,Times New Roman][FONT=Times New Roman,Times New Roman]As of June 1, 2009, Family Care is available to nearly 60 percent of Wisconsin residents that qualify for publically funded long-term care. Thirty-two ADRCs are operational, serving 55 counties and 1 Tribe, accounting for over 70 percent of the state’s population. [/FONT]
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回复: New Life 纽莱芙养老院-EB-5投资移民项目
我讲的和你讲的风马牛不相及，问题不是谁付钱，和有没有人付钱。而是你每月收老人的钱是预先确定的，而且是长期的，甚至是终身的合同。但是每个老人的护理费用睡着年龄的增大会变多，当超过一定标准线时，你就是在赔本做生意。而初始确定你每月每个老人收多少钱的重要依据之一就是平均寿命预期，你也不可能过高的去定价，这样就失去竞争力。这个是行业特点问题，并非你一家独有，你自己对要组织的投资显然没经验。
我讲的和你讲的风马牛不相及，问题不是谁付钱，和有没有人付钱。而是你每月收老人的钱是预先确定的，而且是长期的，甚至是终身的合同。但是每个老人的护理费用睡着年龄的增大会变多，当超过一定标准线时，你就是在赔本做生意。而初始确定你每月每个老人收多少钱的重要依据之一就是平均寿命预期，你也不可能过高的去定价，这样就失去竞争力。这个是行业特点问题，并非你一家独有，你自己对要组织的投资显然没经验。
这位“土鳖”是国内民政局的吧，该好好研究一下美国的养老福利政策。
知道美国的medicaid吗？Wisconsin的FAMILY CARE和COPP WAIVER。这里给你上上课。学完了，就明白我们为什么要做养老院项目，为什么在WISCONSIN 做养老院。养老院的低收入的老人，是有政府掏钱养老的。所以我们希望老人长寿。 我的几个新雇员的家人就是享受政府补贴的，等我们项目开业，他们从另一家养老院转过来。
Overview of Managed Care Organizations (MCOs) and the Flexible Family Care Benefit
[FONT=Times New Roman,Times New Roman][FONT=Times New Roman,Times New Roman]Family Care improves the cost-effective coordination of long-term care services by creating a single flexible benefit that includes a large number of health and long-term care services that otherwise would be available through separate programs. A member of a MCO has access to a large number of specific health services offered by Medicaid, as well as the long-term care services in the Home and Community-Based Waivers and the very flexible state-funded Community Options Program. In order to assure access to services, MCOs develop and manage a comprehensive network of long-term care services and support, either through contracts with providers, or by direct service provision by MCO employees. MCOs are responsible for assuring and continually improving the quality of care and services consumers receive. MCOs receive a monthly per person payment to manage and purchase care for their members, who may be living in their own homes, group living situations, or nursing facilities. Some highlights of the Family Care benefit package are: [/FONT][/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman,Times New Roman]
[/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman,Times New Roman][FONT=Times New Roman,Times New Roman]People Receive Services Where They Live[FONT=Times New Roman,Times New Roman][FONT=Times New Roman,Times New Roman]. MCO members receive Family Care services where they live, which may be in their own home or supported apartment, or in alternative residential settings such as [/FONT][/FONT][/FONT][/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman,Times New Roman][FONT=Times New Roman,Times New Roman][FONT=Times New Roman,Times New Roman]
[FONT=Times New Roman,Times New Roman]Residential Care Apartment Complexes, Community-Based Residential Facilities （我们的养老院是这种）, Adult Family Homes, Nursing Homes, or Intermediate Care Facilities for people with developmental disabilities. [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman,Times New Roman]
[FONT=Times New Roman,Times New Roman][FONT=Times New Roman,Times New Roman][FONT=Times New Roman,Times New Roman]People Receive Interdisciplinary Case Management[/FONT][/FONT]. Each member has support from an interdisciplinary team that consists of, at a minimum, a social worker/care manager and a Registered Nurse. Other professionals, as appropriate, also participate as members of the interdisciplinary team. The interdisciplinary team conducts a comprehensive assessment of the member’s needs, abilities, preferences and values with the consumer and his or her representative, if any. The assessment looks at areas such as: activities of daily living, physical health, nutrition, autonomy and self-determination, communication, and mental health and cognition. [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman,Times New Roman]
[FONT=Times New Roman,Times New Roman][FONT=Times New Roman,Times New Roman]People Participate in Determining the Services They Receive[/FONT][/FONT]. Members or their authorized representatives take an active role with the interdisciplinary team in developing their care plans. MCOs provide support and information to assure members are making informed decisions about their needs and the services they receive. Members may also participate in the Self-Directed Supports component of Family Care, in which they have increased control over their long-term care budgets and providers.
[FONT=Times New Roman,Times New Roman][FONT=Times New Roman,Times New Roman]People Receive Family Care Services that Include: [/FONT][/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman,Times New Roman][FONT=Times New Roman,Times New Roman]Long-Term Care Services [/FONT][/FONT]that have traditionally been part of the Medicaid Waiver programs or the Community Options Program. These include services such as adult day care, home modifications, home delivered meals and supportive home care.
[FONT=Times New Roman,Times New Roman][FONT=Times New Roman,Times New Roman]Health Care Services [/FONT][/FONT]that help people achieve their long-term care outcomes. These services include home health, skilled nursing, mental health services, and occupational, physical and speech therapy. For Medicaid recipients, health care services not included in Family Care are available through the Medicaid fee-for-service program.
[FONT=Times New Roman,Times New Roman][FONT=Times New Roman,Times New Roman]People Receive Help Coordinating Their Primary Health Care[/FONT][/FONT]. In addition to assuring that people get the health and long-term care services in the Family Care benefit package, the MCO interdisciplinary teams also help members coordinate all their health care, including, if needed, helping members get to and communicate with their physicians and helping them manage their treatments and medications.
[FONT=Times New Roman,Times New Roman][FONT=Times New Roman,Times New Roman]People Receive Services to Help Achieve Their Employment Objectives[/FONT][/FONT]. Services such as daily living skills training, day treatment, pre-vocational services and supported employment are included in the Family Care benefit package. Other Family Care services such as transportation and personal care also help people meet their employment goals.
[FONT=Times New Roman,Times New Roman][FONT=Times New Roman,Times New Roman]People Receive the Services that Best Achieve Their Outcomes[/FONT][/FONT]. The MCO is not restricted to providing only the specific services listed in the Family Care benefit package. The MCO interdisciplinary care management team and the member may decide that other services, treatments or supports are more likely to help the member achieve his or her outcomes, and the MCO would then authorize those services in the member’s care plan.
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[FONT=Times New Roman,Times New Roman][FONT=Times New Roman,Times New Roman][FONT=Times New Roman,Times New Roman][FONT=Times New Roman,Times New Roman]As of June 1, 2009, Family Care is available to nearly 60 percent of Wisconsin residents that qualify for publically funded long-term care. Thirty-two ADRCs are operational, serving 55 counties and 1 Tribe, accounting for over 70 percent of the state’s population. [/FONT]
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回复: New Life 纽莱芙养老院-EB-5投资移民项目
美国养老业来讲，你的商业常识少得有点可怜了。养老院有不同的商业模型。你说的那种是CCRC, 要交ENTRANCE FEE外加月费，服务包括independent living, assisted living, and nursing. 这种养老院希望老人死越早越好，20来万的ENTRANCE FEE可以放自己的腰包了。
我们的养老院只提供assisted living. 没有entrance fee. 只是月费，包括食宿费和个人护理费。
你我谈的不是一个概念。你说的那种都是自费的。我们的是半公费半自费。
美国养老业来讲，你的商业常识少得有点可怜了。养老院有不同的商业模型。你说的那种是CCRC, 要交ENTRANCE FEE外加月费，服务包括independent living, assisted living, and nursing. 这种养老院希望老人死越早越好，20来万的ENTRANCE FEE可以放自己的腰包了。
我们的养老院只提供assisted living. 没有entrance fee. 只是月费，包括食宿费和个人护理费。
你我谈的不是一个概念。你说的那种都是自费的。我们的是半公费半自费。
回复: New Life 纽莱芙养老院-EB-5投资移民项目
我记得你说过因为当地人口和竞争关系需要从芝加哥等地招募老人入院。那么Illinois的老人是否享受Wisconsin的政府补贴等福利？
这位“土鳖”是国内民政局的吧，该好好研究一下美国的养老福利政策。
知道美国的medicaid吗？Wisconsin的FAMILY CARE和COPP WAIVER。这里给你上上课。学完了，就明白我们为什么要做养老院项目，为什么在WISCONSIN 做养老院。养老院的低收入的老人，是有政府掏钱养老的。所以我们希望老人长寿。 我的几个新雇员的家人就是享受政府补贴的，等我们项目开业，他们从另一家养老院转过来。
我记得你说过因为当地人口和竞争关系需要从芝加哥等地招募老人入院。那么Illinois的老人是否享受Wisconsin的政府补贴等福利？
回复: New Life 纽莱芙养老院-EB-5投资移民项目
因为WALWORTH County 与Illinois 相邻，有些住在walworth county 的人在Illinois 上班。很多Illinois的老人在这里买别墅养老。
从芝加哥搬来，住在WINSCONSIN的养老院，就成为当地的居民，就不再是ILLINOIS的居民，除非他/她的PRIMARY HOME 在ILLINOIS. 这么有钱的老人，这里也有很多。他们不到享受福利的资格。低收入的老人是指资产在2000美金以下的。囊中空空的那种才享受福利。资产在2000 美金以上的要自己掏钱，直到花光了，政府才接过来账单。
因为WALWORTH County 与Illinois 相邻，有些住在walworth county 的人在Illinois 上班。很多Illinois的老人在这里买别墅养老。
从芝加哥搬来，住在WINSCONSIN的养老院，就成为当地的居民，就不再是ILLINOIS的居民，除非他/她的PRIMARY HOME 在ILLINOIS. 这么有钱的老人，这里也有很多。他们不到享受福利的资格。低收入的老人是指资产在2000美金以下的。囊中空空的那种才享受福利。资产在2000 美金以上的要自己掏钱，直到花光了，政府才接过来账单。
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New Life of Crivitz 项目已经达到一个新的里程碑。今天刚收到Wisconsin政府发来的项目工程设计的批准函。这样，我们工程完工，验收通过后，就可以拿到养老院开业的执照了。
New Life of Crivitz 项目已经达到一个新的里程碑。今天刚收到Wisconsin政府发来的项目工程设计的批准函。这样，我们工程完工，验收通过后，就可以拿到养老院开业的执照了。
回复: New Life 纽莱芙养老院-EB-5投资移民项目
我也是在找项目，请问能发我一份计划书吗？
邮箱：1125783071@qq.com
多谢
我也是在找项目，请问能发我一份计划书吗？
邮箱：1125783071@qq.com
多谢
回复: New Life 纽莱芙养老院-EB-5投资移民项目
你对Wisconsin州的养老院建设的操作是一无所知，就不要在这瞎掰了。
养老院建造，事先有DHS审查图纸，是申请LICENSE的第一步，比LICENSE 还难。建好后，工程审查合格就批license.
我们CRIVITZ项目是前期的改建工程都是有小酒店的卖方承担。我们指定养老院的模式，建好后，拿到DHS的开业许可，才交割。投资人的钱一直都存在监管账户里，养老院建好，可以开业，投资人的钱统一交付给卖方，交割后，项目有LP共同拥有。
你对Wisconsin州的养老院建设的操作是一无所知，就不要在这瞎掰了。
养老院建造，事先有DHS审查图纸，是申请LICENSE的第一步，比LICENSE 还难。建好后，工程审查合格就批license.
我们CRIVITZ项目是前期的改建工程都是有小酒店的卖方承担。我们指定养老院的模式，建好后，拿到DHS的开业许可，才交割。投资人的钱一直都存在监管账户里，养老院建好，可以开业，投资人的钱统一交付给卖方，交割后，项目有LP共同拥有。
回复: New Life 纽莱芙养老院-EB-5投资移民项目
无照经营，还叫投资人给你打款？
无照经营，还叫投资人给你打款？
回复: New Life 纽莱芙养老院-EB-5投资移民项目
不要恼羞成怒，都是你自己说的。
不要恼羞成怒，都是你自己说的。
回复: New Life 纽莱芙养老院-EB-5投资移民项目
问题1 你是不是还没有执照？
问题2 客户是不是在你没有执照的时候，就被要求完成不可撤销的投资--打款到监管账户？
问题1 你是不是还没有执照？
问题2 客户是不是在你没有执照的时候，就被要求完成不可撤销的投资--打款到监管账户？
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