大陆人获得外籍后获准在港逗留超过180天即重获中国籍

[bluekid]

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http://www.fmcoprc.gov.hk/chn/lsfw/zgrzj/t140231.htm
这里面写申请旅行证的条件有一条：
4、持外国旅行证件者，须提供所持外国旅行证件、外国定居证明、中国国籍证明（如旧的中国护照或旅行证）的原件及复印件；

问一下，难道旧护照就可以证明我的中国国籍吗？倘若可以的话，也就不用走那么麻烦的流程了，用中国护照办旅行证就可以了。

 

[Correct]

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曾有数千名被中央政府派驻香港的工作人员（包括中联办的大批干部）在港通常居住连续七年而依法取得香港居留权和《特区护照》，并在注销内地户口后取得回乡证。中央政府在几年以后才要求特区立法机关修改《入境条例》，令后来的南下干部无法取得香港居留权。机会常有，就看你能否把握。

不同于你提到的非法使用无效《中国护照》，我的思路是完全合法的。

我相信奴隶制社会里绝无和谐可言，更不可能长治久安。推倒丧权辱国的《中国国籍法》可能是推倒奴隶制的一环。

man, it would simply make it more complicated and it might trigger these rubber stamps to give HKG gov't an unfavorable interpretation toward our overseas chinese.

it's unless to fight with the existing legal system, the success depends on the chances of their oversights.

if one really want to live in china like normal mainlanders, just get a new chinese passport before neutralization and it will good for ten years.

what about 10 years later? who knows...in nineteen-eighty-nine,did we believe china could reach her hight of "splendor" in just 2 decades? anything is possible and impossible is nothing...IMHO.

 

[Correct]

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自你取得外国国籍后，中国政府不再把你视为中国公民。特派员可以为你注销《中国护照》。

http://www.fmcoprc.gov.hk/chn/lsfw/zgrzj/t140231.htm
这里面写申请旅行证的条件有一条：
4、持外国旅行证件者，须提供所持外国旅行证件、外国定居证明、中国国籍证明（如旧的中国护照或旅行证）的原件及复印件；

问一下，难道旧护照就可以证明我的中国国籍吗？倘若可以的话，也就不用走那么麻烦的流程了，用中国护照办旅行证就可以了。

 

[genghiskhan]

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曾有数千名被中央政府派驻香港的工作人员（包括中联办的大批干部）在港通常居住连续七年而依法取得香港居留权和《特区护照》，并在注销内地户口后取得回乡证。中央政府在几年以后才要求特区立法机关修改《入境条例》，令后来的南下干部无法取得香港居留权。机会常有，就看你能否把握。

不同于你提到的非法使用无效《中国护照》，我的思路是完全合法的。

我相信奴隶制社会里绝无和谐可言，更不可能长治久安。推倒丧权辱国的《中国国籍法》可能是推倒奴隶制的一环。

my "china passport" suggestion is totally legal. read the consular agreement between canada & PRC...

ARTICLE 12

Facilitation of Travel

1. The Contracting Parties agree to facilitate travel between the two States of a person who may have a claim simultaneously to the nationality of the People's Republic of China and that of Canada. However, this does not imply that the People's Republic of China recognizes dual nationality. Exit formalities and documentation of that person shall be handled in accordance with the law of the State in which that person customarily resides. Entry formalities and documentation shall be handled in accordance with the law of the State of destination

bottom line is, returning to china as a normal PRC passport holder and do as chinese do in china. many people are handling it well over a decade, just FYI.

 

[genghiskhan]

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CORRECT, correct me if i am wrong... it feels like you wish to gather enough attention in order to push the gov't to revise the relevant law/regulation...and even go further...
it's no fun to provoke the almighty gov't...i admire your courage but you might need to keep a bit low profile here...this is a pure immigrant forum.

 

[Correct]

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你理解错了。这个问题在本贴三、四十楼就讨论过。请考古。

my "china passport" suggestion is totally legal. read the consular agreement between canada & PRC...

ARTICLE 12

Facilitation of Travel

1. The Contracting Parties agree to facilitate travel between the two States of a person who may have a claim simultaneously to the nationality of the People's Republic of China and that of Canada. However, this does not imply that the People's Republic of China recognizes dual nationality. Exit formalities and documentation of that person shall be handled in accordance with the law of the State in which that person customarily resides. Entry formalities and documentation shall be handled in accordance with the law of the State of destination

bottom line is, returning to china as a normal PRC passport holder and do as chinese do in china. many people are handling it well over a decade, just FYI.

 

[genghiskhan]

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你理解错了。这个问题在本贴三、四十楼就讨论过。请考古。

what the purpose for the whole reconversion thing you are suggesting? get the defacto dual citizenship like HKG people?

 

[genghiskhan]

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i do support dual citizenship, it's commonly accepted by 90% countries in the world anyway. PRC used to adopt the same rule and the present harsh law came into effect less than 30 years.
giving it time, something would be done to favor our mainlanders living overseas...chinese kids born in canada/usa now have the defacto dual citizenships suppose their parents have no foreign citizenship at the time of their birth. they can go back to china and live like ordinary chinese born kids. but they have all the rights to come back to canada/usa once they claim their citizenship at their overseas consulate/embassy.

 

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只要你愿意，无论在法律上还是在情感上，我愿能把你视为我的同胞。

what the purpose for the whole reconversion thing you are suggesting? get the defacto dual citizenship like HKG people?

 

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早于三十年前，中国已不承认中国公民具有双重国籍。
生在美/加的孩子具有中国国籍的前提是中国籍的父母都未取得绿卡/枫叶卡，不是未取得美/加国籍。
赴华的双籍小朋友须持美/加护照离开美/加。在华期间无须前往美/加驻华使领馆确认国籍或申请护照。持过期的美/加护照能进入美/加。当然小朋友容貌变化快，最好带上不同时期的照片和显示父母姓名的出生纸并与父或母同行。
出生在海外的双籍小朋友被认为定居海外，在内地没有户口。小朋友在华申请内地户口时存在失败的可能性。

i do support dual citizenship, it's commonly accepted by 90% countries in the world anyway. PRC used to adopt the same rule and the present harsh law came into effect less than 30 years.
giving it time, something would be done to favor our mainlanders living overseas...chinese kids born in canada/usa now have the defacto dual citizenships suppose their parents have no foreign citizenship at the time of their birth. they can go back to china and live like ordinary chinese born kids. but they have all the rights to come back to canada/usa once they claim their citizenship at their overseas consulate/embassy.

 

[genghiskhan]

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早于三十年前，中国已不承认中国公民具有双重国籍。
生在美/加的孩子具有中国国籍的前提是中国籍的父母都未取得绿卡/枫叶卡，不是未取得美/加国籍。
赴华的双籍小朋友须持美/加护照离开美/加。在华期间无须前往美/加驻华使领馆确认国籍或申请护照。持过期的美/加护照能进入美/加。当然小朋友容貌变化快，最好带上不同时期的照片和显示父母姓名的出生纸并与父或母同行。
出生在海外的双籍小朋友被认为定居海外，在内地没有户口。小朋友在华申请内地户口时存在失败的可能性。

no...it's a fairly new regulation.
thanks for correcting me. Yes, their parents should not have either PR status or citizenships of CAN/USA at the time of applying travel docs at consulate/embassy.

and,they can get their Hukou regsted in china, it's also a new regulation and it's guaranteed!

but, just a couple of years b4, chinese gov't refused to offer CAN/USA born chinese kids travel docs but visas on their CAN/USA passports instead.

see, something did change. IMHO, the true motivation was for the facilitation of those "princes & princesses" who have / will have defacto dual citizenships. well,there were just something we dont know but it's a step forward anyway.

 

[genghiskhan]

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只要你愿意，无论在法律上还是在情感上，我愿能把你视为我的同胞。

you are my compatriot, no matter you like or not, no matter which citizenship/passport you have.

as i mentioned previously, dual citizenship commonly exists in most of the countries (incl. PRC & ROC) for over 100 years and the harsh PRC citizenship law published merely 30 years ago and it has been changed a bit ( in practice) and subject to be further changed ( hopefully).

 

[genghiskhan]

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just some personal experiences to share with all you guys.

at the time when i applied visa extension for my kid in china,the local police officer clearly told me " according to the new regulation, if none of the parents have foreign PR statu or citizenship, we will get this kid HUKOU regsted with legal guardians"

funny thing is, you need to show your foreign PR card/passport otherwise they will insist to give your kid the HUKOU, even they have the kid's foreign passport in hands and the chinese visa on it.

see, our Almighty Chinese Gov't do admit the defacto dual citizenships in some cases.

 

[aokilinda]

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