美国投资移民 那个传说中的芝加哥会议中心项目
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还是花些时间做背景调查吧！
还是花些时间做背景调查吧！
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这个项目,广告词"太刺激"
疑惑却很真实:
前面150个EB5投资者是试验田,
所谓的首席中介根本不与EB5投资者说明这件事情,但还是有一些负责任的中介愿意中肯的告诉大家的.
俺对事不DUI人,如果得罪谁,请都海涵,一句话:同胞们资金安全最重要.
同样是移民大国,印度裔的项目方,为何不把这么安全,这么好的项目带到自己的祖国,分享给印度同胞,看来我们中国人有福气啦,馅饼从天而降.中国同胞们要睁大自己的眼睛.用越简单的逻辑看问题..
项目方急于要EB5投资,甚至搬出829不过还全款,可见其心急.但这种保障一旦让移民局知道,无风险项目,哈!----拒签.
这个项目,广告词"太刺激"
疑惑却很真实:
前面150个EB5投资者是试验田,
所谓的首席中介根本不与EB5投资者说明这件事情,但还是有一些负责任的中介愿意中肯的告诉大家的.俺对事不DUI人,如果得罪谁,请都海涵,一句话:同胞们资金安全最重要.
同样是移民大国,印度裔的项目方,为何不把这么安全,这么好的项目带到自己的祖国,分享给印度同胞,看来我们中国人有福气啦,馅饼从天而降.中国同胞们要睁大自己的眼睛.用越简单的逻辑看问题..
项目方急于要EB5投资,甚至搬出829不过还全款,可见其心急.但这种保障一旦让移民局知道,无风险项目,哈!----拒签.
回复: 芝加哥会议中心项目的创新和战略财务设计特点
本案的宣传资料包括英文版、中文版、西班牙文版、印度文版、韩国语版
如果你有印度同胞要做，我可以提供印度文版的资料。
本案的宣传资料包括英文版、中文版、西班牙文版、印度文版、韩国语版
如果你有印度同胞要做，我可以提供印度文版的资料。
回复: 芝加哥会议中心项目的创新和战略财务设计特点
Pass
Pass
回复: 芝加哥会议中心项目的创新和战略财务设计特点
中国的同胞应该有谦让性，先让印度的移民领先那150个名额。别事事都争第一吗！
这个项目,广告词"太刺激"
疑惑却很真实:
前面150个EB5投资者是试验田,
俺对事不DUI人,如果得罪谁,请都海涵,一句话:同胞们资金安全最重要.
同样是移民大国,印度裔的项目方,为何不把这么安全,这么好的项目带到自己的祖国,分享给印度同胞,看来我们中国人有福气啦,馅饼从天而降.中国同胞们要睁大自己的眼睛.用越简单的逻辑看问题..
项目方急于要EB5投资,甚至搬出829不过还全款,可见其心急.但这种保障一旦让移民局知道,无风险项目,哈!----拒签.
中国的同胞应该有谦让性，先让印度的移民领先那150个名额。别事事都争第一吗！
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太task-oriented,不等于推销高手!
所谓"严于律己,宽以待人",正解为:对自己的CASE要严,对别人的CASE要宽.
再不想搭理你这斯
自己满满装才吧,把尾巴尝深点.....呵呵.
太task-oriented,不等于推销高手!
所谓"严于律己,宽以待人",正解为:对自己的CASE要严,对别人的CASE要宽.
再不想搭理你这斯
自己满满装才吧,把尾巴尝深点.....呵呵.
回复: 芝加哥会议中心项目的创新和战略财务设计特点
做人不要太装逼，
装逼的确遭雷劈。
楚河两岸硝烟障，
从来暗箭起同行。
观棋不语真君子，
大人何必小鸡肠。
你且扬威修栈道，
我自低言度陈仓。
堪叹人生终有老，
莫叫无才笑江郎。
Pass & Pass
做人不要太装逼，
装逼的确遭雷劈。
楚河两岸硝烟障，
从来暗箭起同行。
观棋不语真君子，
大人何必小鸡肠。
你且扬威修栈道，
我自低言度陈仓。
堪叹人生终有老，
莫叫无才笑江郎。
Pass & Pass
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亲:
诗不错.
可人确不咋地!
不要忘记：大家在看你在卖力的吆喝,让印度主子多发你点碎银子......
人品不行,才又何用.
"爱人如己",你的确不配.
移友谨记:
1) 前面150个EB5投资者是试验田,为何所谓的首席中介回避向EB5投资者说明这件事情．
2)同样是移民大国,印度裔的项目方,为何不把这么安全,这么好的项目带到自己的祖国,分享给印度同胞,中国同胞们要睁大自己的眼睛.用最简单的逻辑看问题..
３）项目方急于要EB5投资,甚至搬出829不过还全款,可见其心急.但这种保障一旦让移民局知道,无风险项目----结果是：拒签.
－－－－－－－－－－－－－－－－－－－－－－－－－－－－－
亲:
诗不错.
可人确不咋地!
不要忘记：大家在看你在卖力的吆喝,让印度主子多发你点碎银子......
人品不行,才又何用.
"爱人如己",你的确不配.
移友谨记:
1) 前面150个EB5投资者是试验田,
为何所谓的首席中介回避向EB5投资者说明这件事情．2)同样是移民大国,印度裔的项目方,为何不把这么安全,这么好的项目带到自己的祖国,分享给印度同胞,中国同胞们要睁大自己的眼睛.用最简单的逻辑看问题..
３）项目方急于要EB5投资,甚至搬出829不过还全款,可见其心急.但这种保障一旦让移民局知道,无风险项目----结果是：拒签.
－－－－－－－－－－－－－－－－－－－－－－－－－－－－－
回复: 芝加哥会议中心项目的创新和战略财务设计特点
何必呢，何苦呢...
何必呢，何苦呢...
亲:
诗不错.
可人确不咋地!
不要忘记：大家在看你在卖力的吆喝,让印度主子多发你点碎银子......
人品不行,才又何用.
"爱人如己",你的确不配.
移友谨记:
1) 前面150个EB5投资者是试验田,
2)同样是移民大国,印度裔的项目方,为何不把这么安全,这么好的项目带到自己的祖国,分享给印度同胞,中国同胞们要睁大自己的眼睛.用最简单的逻辑看问题..
３）项目方急于要EB5投资,甚至搬出829不过还全款,可见其心急.但这种保障一旦让移民局知道,无风险项目----结果是：拒签.
－－－－－－－－－－－－－－－－－－－－－－－－－－－－－
回复: 芝加哥会议中心项目的创新和战略财务设计特点
不予理会
不予理会
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我觉得这个项目不靠谱，最重要的原因是想找齐499个投资人不容易。这个项目如果成功，以后每年搞6个就行了。
我觉得这个项目不靠谱，最重要的原因是想找齐499个投资人不容易。这个项目如果成功，以后每年搞6个就行了。
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伊州政府资助的另一个酒店项目，是个万豪酒店，也广受批评。 这个酒店的融资结构和芝加哥会议中心查不多，投资人可以看看其中的不定性。
有些开发商就是贪得无厌了。
Hotel project 'developer's fee' raises eyebrows
PEORIA
Developer Gary Matthews could make $6.5 million for developing the Downtown Marriott Hotel project, according to information supplied by the Illinois Finance Authority.
That amount concerns board members of the authority who believe it is too much for a developer to receive for a hotel project during one of the toughest times in the industry.
According to information provided to the authority, Matthews requests $9 million in a "developer's fee," considerably more than the $3.5 million in equity he will put into the project.
"The developer fee caused all of our eyes to grow a little bit wider," Bill Brandt, chairman of the Illinois Finance Authority, said Tuesday. "Several of us consider it to be a time when the state is suffering and people are losing their jobs ... I give a lot of points (to Matthews) to put together a deal and to be in the right place, but maybe some of this money should be left in the kitty for a while."
Matthews did not submit a detailed accounting for how the fee will be paid to him. Brandt said he believes a portion would come from taxpayer-backed tax-increment financing (TIF) bonds, which the City Council approved in 2008 to support the project.
However, Peoria city attorney Randy Ray said Tuesday the developer's fee would not be a TIF-eligible expense and would not be paid out until the project is completed.
Bill Claus, funding manager with the Illinois Finance Authority, said the authority asked Matthews to provide a more detailed analysis of the fee.
"The juxtaposition between the developer's equity and the developer's fee was indeed noted by a few (authority) members," Bill Brandt, chairman of the authority, said on Tuesday.
Brandt was referring to a Jan. 12 meeting at which Matthews requested authority support for $7.8 million in a state moral obligation bond to outfit the structure with energy-efficient features.
The authority has not approved the state bond, although it could be discussed when the group meets in Peoria at the Hotel Pere Marquette on March 9. Brandt, however, said he doesn't believe it will be reconsidered until the April meeting.
The City Council could reassess the Marriott Hotel project in the months to come, because the overall scope of the development appears to be scaling back. According to City Manager Scott Moore on Monday, the number of hotel rooms is dropping by 89, and the city's TIF obligation to the project is going down from $39.4 million to $37 million.
Moore said he is awaiting more information from Matthews this week. Matthews could not be reached for comment on Tuesday.
At-large City Councilman Ryan Spain said he believes the numbers Matthews provided to the authority will be changed, including the developer's fee, which represents 10 percent of the overall project costs or 1 percent more than the maximum 9 percent allowed through the city's original development agreement with EM Properties.
Spain said he wouldn't speculate about what new fee Matthews might propose.
"I would expect the developer's fees to change significantly more than the reduction you see in the size of the project," Spain said, referring to the potential reduction of the project from a $102 million development to $90 million.
Also on Tuesday, another Downtown hotel owner came forward to criticize the Marriott project.
Bruce Kinseth, whose Iowa-based company owns the Holiday Inn City Centre and operates 46 other hotels nationally, said "it's just crazy" for anyone to build a hotel project during the current economic climate, which is seeing financial troubles of large and newer hotels near O'Hare International Airport, among other places.
He also was critical of Matthews' fee, saying it "doesn't take a brain surgeon" to see that he will financially benefit from the deal.
"I'd put in ($3.5 million) and net $6 million and give it to the lender ... wouldn't you do that deal?" Kinseth said. "Who wouldn't do that?"
Kinseth's comments come one day after Mark Twain Hotel owner and former Peoria Mayor Bud Grieves said the timing was poor for the construction of the Marriott Hotel. Matthews said on Monday that he disagreed, saying it was the right time to proceed.
伊州政府资助的另一个酒店项目，是个万豪酒店，也广受批评。 这个酒店的融资结构和芝加哥会议中心查不多，投资人可以看看其中的不定性。
有些开发商就是贪得无厌了。
Hotel project 'developer's fee' raises eyebrows
PEORIA
Developer Gary Matthews could make $6.5 million for developing the Downtown Marriott Hotel project, according to information supplied by the Illinois Finance Authority.
That amount concerns board members of the authority who believe it is too much for a developer to receive for a hotel project during one of the toughest times in the industry.
According to information provided to the authority, Matthews requests $9 million in a "developer's fee," considerably more than the $3.5 million in equity he will put into the project.
"The developer fee caused all of our eyes to grow a little bit wider," Bill Brandt, chairman of the Illinois Finance Authority, said Tuesday. "Several of us consider it to be a time when the state is suffering and people are losing their jobs ... I give a lot of points (to Matthews) to put together a deal and to be in the right place, but maybe some of this money should be left in the kitty for a while."
Matthews did not submit a detailed accounting for how the fee will be paid to him. Brandt said he believes a portion would come from taxpayer-backed tax-increment financing (TIF) bonds, which the City Council approved in 2008 to support the project.
However, Peoria city attorney Randy Ray said Tuesday the developer's fee would not be a TIF-eligible expense and would not be paid out until the project is completed.
Bill Claus, funding manager with the Illinois Finance Authority, said the authority asked Matthews to provide a more detailed analysis of the fee.
"The juxtaposition between the developer's equity and the developer's fee was indeed noted by a few (authority) members," Bill Brandt, chairman of the authority, said on Tuesday.
Brandt was referring to a Jan. 12 meeting at which Matthews requested authority support for $7.8 million in a state moral obligation bond to outfit the structure with energy-efficient features.
The authority has not approved the state bond, although it could be discussed when the group meets in Peoria at the Hotel Pere Marquette on March 9. Brandt, however, said he doesn't believe it will be reconsidered until the April meeting.
The City Council could reassess the Marriott Hotel project in the months to come, because the overall scope of the development appears to be scaling back. According to City Manager Scott Moore on Monday, the number of hotel rooms is dropping by 89, and the city's TIF obligation to the project is going down from $39.4 million to $37 million.
Moore said he is awaiting more information from Matthews this week. Matthews could not be reached for comment on Tuesday.
At-large City Councilman Ryan Spain said he believes the numbers Matthews provided to the authority will be changed, including the developer's fee, which represents 10 percent of the overall project costs or 1 percent more than the maximum 9 percent allowed through the city's original development agreement with EM Properties.
Spain said he wouldn't speculate about what new fee Matthews might propose.
"I would expect the developer's fees to change significantly more than the reduction you see in the size of the project," Spain said, referring to the potential reduction of the project from a $102 million development to $90 million.
Also on Tuesday, another Downtown hotel owner came forward to criticize the Marriott project.
Bruce Kinseth, whose Iowa-based company owns the Holiday Inn City Centre and operates 46 other hotels nationally, said "it's just crazy" for anyone to build a hotel project during the current economic climate, which is seeing financial troubles of large and newer hotels near O'Hare International Airport, among other places.
He also was critical of Matthews' fee, saying it "doesn't take a brain surgeon" to see that he will financially benefit from the deal.
"I'd put in ($3.5 million) and net $6 million and give it to the lender ... wouldn't you do that deal?" Kinseth said. "Who wouldn't do that?"
Kinseth's comments come one day after Mark Twain Hotel owner and former Peoria Mayor Bud Grieves said the timing was poor for the construction of the Marriott Hotel. Matthews said on Monday that he disagreed, saying it was the right time to proceed.
回复: 芝加哥会议中心项目的创新和战略财务设计特点
不管有多少EB-5申请人，这个项目都会如期开工，没有EB-5资金 Torrence Capital 负责填补满150个人，然后后面所有的资金就可以陆续全部到位。
如果项目方5年内还不了全部资金，滞期部分它要按15%给您支付高额利息。这个还不靠谱吗。你知道吗，该项目从第3年就开始还钱了。
不管有多少EB-5申请人，这个项目都会如期开工，没有EB-5资金 Torrence Capital 负责填补满150个人，然后后面所有的资金就可以陆续全部到位。
如果项目方5年内还不了全部资金，滞期部分它要按15%给您支付高额利息。这个还不靠谱吗。你知道吗，该项目从第3年就开始还钱了。
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TORRENCE CAPITAL 的信明明白白的写到，他们的贷款是以EB-5的资金做抵押。如果没有EB-5的资金，就没有抵押品，TORRENCE CAPITAL 就不出款给项目开发商。
TORRENCE CAPITAL 的信明明白白的写到，他们的贷款是以EB-5的资金做抵押。如果没有EB-5的资金，就没有抵押品，TORRENCE CAPITAL 就不出款给项目开发商。
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