13北京91等ME，1，100全球91看本周末下周初法庭决定。。

[ymxzrl]

回复: CIC的time-frame。。。35个人又危及了，赶紧行动吧。。。

看看Tim回复的排序，把670的事情放在第三位，第二位说的是7月份新加入同学的利益。我想CIC会理解成这是按重点顺序来的。

我想说的是：Tim案子的最大价值就在于这670的结果，如果这670被砍掉了，这案子是彻头彻尾的失败了。

其次，如果这670失败了，我看不出7月份新加入的这些人的利益在哪里，这些人面肯定不全是assessed的吧。新加入的人至少部分要参照670的处理结果吧。

没有字斟句酌地仔细研究Tim的信和CIC的回复，粗粗看了一下感觉非常不好。另外，各位Tim组的人再回头查查当时签的retainer，我记得有句话是说要我们同意律师代表我们表达意见，所以律师的意见就是我们的意见。这个没法改。

越讨论越绝望....

 

[voiletflower]

回复: CIC的time-frame。。。35个人又危及了，赶紧行动吧。。。

这是个大陷阱。我已经给TIM回信。大家还要立即提供自己的DOB。First of all, do please provide the DOBs as soon as possible and ask CIC to send out the request letters immediately. Our cases have already been delayed for more than 30 days since 14, June. They are not requiring for updated documents. They are waiting for identifying us. I think our cases should be finalized before 14 Oct. We are in the same situation with Mr. Liang. They can do it. Recently, the visa officer in Hong Kong has finalized many cases within 3-5 months of starting of the S2 stage. The statistic shows that the MI(2011) applications in Beijing were finalized within 30 days of the receipt of medical examination reports.( http://forum.canadameet.tv/showthread.php?t=476995) The data are provided by every individual applicant. I remember Mr. Jason Kenney has said that the visa officers can process one common case in several days. I will provide the link later if I find it. The 180 days are a period half year. I wonder why CIC can abuse the judgment. I hope my case be finalized soon to avoid being terminated by another new law. Please consider it. Thank you.

POP，支持你！而且要让CIC知道你的想法，不要被律师按住不发，那就没意义啦。

 

[walterliu]

回复: CIC的time-frame。。。35个人又危及了，赶紧行动吧。。。

我刚刚给Tim写了封信。给大家参考。参加起诉的，无论是那一批的，该问问他了。
Hi Tim,
I do not understand why you said this "Why rush litigants", in fact, during the discussion with ruth lily and others, and we got the same thoughts, that is, we really need CIC to walk their words to finalize our 35 cases by Oct.14th!! according to the judgment, that's why I do not understand you thought that we should wait and be played by CIC?

Tim, in fact, we are in rush time considering differnt situation of families, any postpone will affect a lot of our planning in many dimensions, especially the child education. Just according to the judgement on June 14th then many of us started planning leaving issues such as booking tickets, etc.

As one of 35 litigants, I would like you, our authorized lawyer,at least to discuss with our 35 litigants to ask our opinions on this then reply CIC, it's very important!

Thanks for you asking for my thought, now I am telling my thought: I do not agree /accept with any postpone of the schedule by Oct.14th, please represent me and other of 35 litigants,to inform CIC that we need them obey the judgment on June 14th to finalize our cases before Oct 14th, and,to ensure they proceeding cases in time, CIC has to send the letter of submitting updated documents within 3 days!

And, as we are in the critical stage, as one of 35 litigants, I would like you, our authorized lawyer,please do discuss with our 35 litigants for our opinions then reply any decision to CIC.
Also, I noticed that the CIC's advice has nothing connected with the judgement, thus we may strongly urge CIC to obey judgement on JUne 14th. as these 35 cases wre judged to be bound by Liangdong's application --finalized within 120days---which we need to insist.

Regards,
Walter

 

[加拿大老熊]

回复: CIC的time-frame。。。35个人又危及了，赶紧行动吧。。。

刘水写的好

 

[加拿大我来了]

回复: CIC的time-frame。。。35个人又危及了，赶紧行动吧。。。

接连给TIM发了三封邮件,气着我了.

 

[ruth0924]

回复: CIC的time-frame。。。35个人又危及了，赶紧行动吧。。。

删

 

[ASURA]

回复: CIC的time-frame。。。35个人又危及了，赶紧行动吧。。。

其实很多人都像你怎么想，律师也希望我们这么想。。。所有的都推到CIC身上。。。

这个A25我没看到过，可能是移民及难民法中的某条款吧，不是87.4修正案。。

A25，移民及难民法中的人道主义处理相关条款。


Humanitarian and compassionate considerations ― request of foreign national

25. (1) The Minister must, on request of a foreign national in Canada who is inadmissible or who does not meet the requirements of this Act, and may, on request of a foreign national outside Canada, examine the circumstances concerning the foreign national and may grant the foreign national permanent resident status or an exemption from any applicable criteria or obligations of this Act if the Minister is of the opinion that it is justified by humanitarian and compassionate considerations relating to the foreign national, taking into account the best interests of a child directly affected.

…………难道律师是认为切是正常的，处理有ME的是人道同情……确实不懂移民法如何应用，但这逻辑……

 

[zzfsabrina]

回复: CIC的time-frame。。。35个人又危及了，赶紧行动吧。。。

同意给律师写信

 

[zzfsabrina]

回复: CIC的time-frame。。。35个人又危及了，赶紧行动吧。。。

这什么老贴不上我的回信呢？

 

[阿达就是我]

回复: CIC的time-frame。。。35个人又危及了，赶紧行动吧。。。

什么情况？

 

[苹果一路]

回复: CIC的time-frame。。。35个人又危及了，赶紧行动吧。。。

提醒大家在给律师回信时请务必斟酌自己的措辞并表现必要的尊重，现在这种时刻，绝不能再伤害任何可能帮助到我们的人了，我们的对手只有一个，CIC，我们的要求也只有一个，要求他们无条件地兑现“GUIDED BY”承诺。

 

[zzfsabrina]

回复: CIC的time-frame。。。35个人又危及了，赶紧行动吧。。。

我给TIM的回信

As you pointed out before, my case is in the 35 pre C-50, which shall be finalized within 120 days. However, in CIC's proposal, the fastest finalization time will be 60 days plus 180 days, i.e., 8 months, 4 months longer than the ORDER. Moreover, there is no indication that the 60 days of updated form will start from when? Starting from the date of Justice Renne's order, or from whenever CIC's send the request letter for the updated form?

My opinion, we shall not be requested for the updated documents, because 1) Mr. Liang does not be requested the updated information, and the 35 cases shall be in compliance with Liang's case; 2) the old stale-dated information is not our fault. if CIC did not delay the process for years, our information is good enough

All in short, I strongly suggest you make the counter offer against CIC's proposal that

1. THE BEST SOLUTION: The Respondent will process the other 35 pre C-50 applicants' applications to finalization within 120 days of Justice Rennie's ORDER;

2. THE BOTTOM LINE: the other 35 pre C-50 applicants that remain will be given 60 days to provide updated forms to the Respondent. The Respondent undertakes to process these applications to finalization within 120 days of Justice Rennie's ORDER, provided no issues related to admissibility arise。

The behind logic is CIC cannot pass the buck to us anymore.If they need our updated information, they should short their working time and expedite the process.

 

[ruth0924]

回复: CIC的time-frame。。。35个人又危及了，赶紧行动吧。。。

这什么老贴不上我的回信呢？

拷到Word试试。。。

 

[diy_ca]

回复: CIC的time-frame。。。35个人又危及了，赶紧行动吧。。。

Dear Tim
It’s unfair! You only fight for the 35 + 130 litigants? What about other several hundreds people? Your objection "3. termination of all pre-Bill C-50 files: they should finalize those whom they directed take medicals, etc. pursuant to A25(1)." is totally wrong, and please remember [FONT=宋体]――[/FONT] apply the terms of the Agreement for all the pre-Bill C-50 files! You can't give up the majority!
For your reputation and for your future businesses, stand by us, be tough and strong!

 

[沸腾]

回复: CIC的time-frame。。。35个人又危及了，赶紧行动吧。。。

Dear Tim
It’s unfair! You only fight for the 35 + 130 litigants? What about other several hundreds people? Your objection "3. termination of all pre-Bill C-50 files: they should finalize those whom they directed take medicals, etc. pursuant to A25(1)." is totally wrong, and please remember [FONT=宋体]――[/FONT] apply the terms of the Agreement for all the pre-Bill C-50 files! You can't give up the majority!
For your reputation and for your future businesses, stand by us, be tough and strong!

写的好！

 

[ruth0924]

回复: CIC的time-frame。。。35个人又危及了，赶紧行动吧。。。



删

 

[ruth0924]

回复: CIC的time-frame。。。35个人又危及了，赶紧行动吧。。。

Dear Tim
It’s unfair! You only fight for the 35 + 130 litigants? What about other several hundreds people? Your objection "3. termination of all pre-Bill C-50 files: they should finalize those whom they directed take medicals, etc. pursuant to A25(1)." is totally wrong, and please remember [FONT=宋体][/FONT] apply the terms of the Agreement for (改成to )all the pre-Bill C-50 files! You can't give up the majority!
For your reputation and for your future businesses, stand by us, be tough and strong!

挺好，各自从自己利益出发就好，不需顾忌什么。。。

另外，还是要提醒大家，这真是CIC在试探我们的态度，所以才会说：pls advise whether you are agreeable to these terms.

我们35人和670人现在就对律师对CIC坚决说不同意。。。

 

[ruth0924]

回复: CIC的time-frame。。。35个人又危及了，赶紧行动吧。。。

A25，移民及难民法中的人道主义处理相关条款。


Humanitarian and compassionate considerations request of foreign national

25. (1) The Minister must, on request of a foreign national in Canada who is inadmissible or who does not meet the requirements of this Act, and may, on request of a foreign national outside Canada, examine the circumstances concerning the foreign national and may grant the foreign national permanent resident status or an exemption from any applicable criteria or obligations of this Act if the Minister is of the opinion that it is justified by humanitarian and compassionate considerations relating to the foreign national, taking into account the best interests of a child directly affected.

…………难道律师是认为切是正常的，处理有ME的是人道同情……确实不懂移民法如何应用，但这逻辑……

谢谢你。。最后一句在说：考虑到直接受影响的孩子的最大利益。。。不知与ME的同学有什么关系。。。

 

[Davidmah]

回复: CIC的time-frame。。。35个人又危及了，赶紧行动吧。。。

谢谢你。。最后一句在说：考虑到直接受影响的孩子的最大利益。。。不知与ME的同学有什么关系。。。

你是技术移民，和人道主义无关。再说，你看肯尼对91的TX像是有人道关怀的人吗？ TIM提得这个，绝对是没有任何的逻辑。

 

[jack mi]

回复: CIC的time-frame。。。35个人又危及了，赶紧行动吧。。。

tim说周五法院判决。我觉得有必要在媒体上发个声明：坚决不同意cic所提协议，质疑cic撕毁2月协议的合法性。这样做的好处：时间也许能赶在tim回复cic前或者法官判决前，这样比我们一个个给tim回信影响面更广、速度更快；同时可以提示律师在做重大决定前最好能征询下我们的意见，真正做到为我们谋求合法利益并使其最大化；对法官也是个制约，不能总是做墙头草、和稀泥，无视原告的意愿和法律的公正性。这样行吗？